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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 29, 2020, 11:23:41 PM
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Tonight's game was truly physical, a Big East Classic in terms of the aggressiveness on defense. Xavier should have won the game but was atrocious at the free throw line the whole game. They matched up well with MU and were able to stifle their defense much of the game. The interesting thing was when Howard went out with the elbow to the nose. Anim and McEwen took over.
Anim and McEwen seem to be different players when Howard isn't on the court. They become more aggressive and can hit some very difficult shots. This is startling though, as it points out a huge flaw in coaching. This flaw is:
Why can't Wojo get all 3 to play simultaneously?
It seems when Howard is on the court, Anim + McEwen tend to fade. This shouldn't be occurring and rather, all 3 should be playing off of each other - making each other better by generating more open looks for each other. If this happened, MU would be much tougher to beat but a lack of continuity exists. Again, shoddy coaching holds the talent on this team back.
Good Win Tonight, but much more work to do.
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Tonight's game was truly physical, a Big East Classic in terms of the aggressiveness on defense. Xavier should have won the game but was atrocious at the free throw line the whole game. They matched up well with MU and were able to stifle their defense much of the game. The interesting thing was when Howard went out with the elbow to the nose. Anim and McEwen took over.
Anim and McEwen seem to be different players when Howard isn't on the court. They become more aggressive and can hit some very difficult shots. This is startling though, as it points out a huge flaw in coaching. This flaw is:
Why can't Wojo get all 3 to play simultaneously?
It seems when Howard is on the court, Anim + McEwen tend to fade. This shouldn't be occurring and rather, all 3 should be playing off of each other - making each other better by generating more open looks for each other. If this happened, MU would be much tougher to beat but a lack of continuity exists. Again, shoddy coaching holds the talent on this team back.
Good Win Tonight, but much more work to do.
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When will know something. Injury happened 2 hour ago
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Phew. Bring on DePaul
https://mobile.twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1222749193539850242
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It shows you were wrong about everything you ever posted.
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It shows you were wrong about everything you ever posted.
Lol, it further underlines my point. There's a total lack of continuity on offense. It should be much more dynamic than it is.....
I'm trying to figure out who took the elbow tonight, you or Howard?
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Lol, it further underlines my point. There's a total lack of continuity on offense. It should be much more dynamic than it is.....
I'm trying to figure out who took the elbow tonight, you or Howard?
18th best offense in the country after tonight.
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Lol, it further underlines my point. There's a total lack of continuity on offense. It should be much more dynamic than it is.....
I'm trying to figure out who took the elbow tonight, you or Howard?
Which point is that??????
The one at the top of your head or the one at the top of your dunce cap.
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18th best offense in the country after tonight.
If we had any other coach than Wojo -- Anybody! Even the mom who coaches her 8-year-old daughter's team! -- we would have the No. 1 offense. Or even better!
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I feel sorry for you.
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The other night, Giannis sat out out and Khris Middleton stepped up and scored 51 points and Eric Bledsoe had 34. When Giannis is on the floor, those two slide into their No. 2 and No. 3 roles. There is only one ball.
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Phew. Bring on DePaul
https://mobile.twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1222749193539850242
Redacted.
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If it was truly just that, why wasn't he in the "yes high 5" video?
He was sitting in the middle...
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I think Sacar said it best in his post game interview. Next man up. He said (paraphrasing), Markus is the focus and when he's out, next man up. He was very casual about it and indicated he feels it's best for the offense to run through Markus until he's out.
We'll really miss Sacar next year! Very level headed (guess that's why he doesn't post here …). :)
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Tonight's game was truly physical, a Big East Classic in terms of the aggressiveness on defense. Xavier should have won the game but was atrocious at the free throw line the whole game. They matched up well with MU and were able to stifle their defense much of the game. The interesting thing was when Howard went out with the elbow to the nose. Anim and McEwen took over.
Anim and McEwen seem to be different players when Howard isn't on the court. They become more aggressive and can hit some very difficult shots. This is startling though, as it points out a huge flaw in coaching. This flaw is:
Why can't Wojo get all 3 to play simultaneously?
It seems when Howard is on the court, Anim + McEwen tend to fade. This shouldn't be occurring and rather, all 3 should be playing off of each other - making each other better by generating more open looks for each other. If this happened, MU would be much tougher to beat but a lack of continuity exists. Again, shoddy coaching holds the talent on this team back.
Good Win Tonight, but much more work to do.
Oh, it’s you again.
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He was sitting in the middle...
Hand up. Couldn't see him. My bad.
Yes, just found the whole video. Clearly there. Although me to scrub my stupid question from existence.
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I don’t understand why people dismiss this. He ain’t wrong. This game was similar to the one at Georgetown last year.
Howard is a great scorer. He’s also the reason two starters walked away from the team after last season.
The rest of the team works just as hard as #0.
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I thought about this last night, Koby and Markus are used to being ball dominant players. This is fine when one is hot.
However, they have been running Markus off screens more frequently, with Koby running point. If Koby can hit the occasional outside shot and be more consistent game-to-game, it will be difficult to guard either 1 on 1. This will create more for everyone including Sacar. Either way we need more off the ball movement to the hoop by everyone, there tends to be too much ball watching. Some of this is due to the fact that Theo is a non factor on offense when setting picks.
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Oh good grief... again!
Brother Glasses, here's the issue about last night. Our team just lost its leading scorer. They were playing in a hostile arena on the road and the defense of Xavier was really tough.
WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN.
For all you Nojos out there, think about it. How many teams would have folded up and called it a moral victory when Xavier held on to win by 6 or 8?
Quite a few IMHO. Quite a few.
What kept us going last night was coaching and motivation. Period. Wojo pushed. Our guys pushed. We didn't play a great game and, yes, Xavier missed a bushel full of free throws. But we found a way to win.
Rather than looking for yet another way to bash our head coach and the team, let's celebrate what happened. Sure, we made mistakes and the game went longer than it should have lasted, but boy we played tough and hard and we won! They'll be enough time for bashing later.
Given the way we played defense, a certain Irishman is looking down from heaven and screaming, "attaboy!"
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Oh good grief... again!
WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN.
For all you Nojos out there, think about it. How many teams would have folded up and called it a moral victory when Xavier held on to win by 6 or 8?
Given the way we played defense, a certain Irishman is looking down from heaven and screaming, "attaboy!"
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Koby has had no shortage of opportunities to do well in the offense with Markus. In general he's been a bad to average shooter - with the exception of the final minutes of our last 2 games. He's also just an OK driver. Announcers called him out yesterday for continuing to pick up his dribble when he got in the lane. He's an important piece and absolutely saved us last night. But his lack of production within the offense is not a product of the system or coach, as much as it is a lack of execution on his part.
Sacar was great last night in an increased role. He's generally great in his role every night. Nothing to see here but a guy stepping up when his team needed it.
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I don’t understand why people dismiss this. He ain’t wrong. This game was similar to the one at Georgetown last year.
Howard is a great scorer. He’s also the reason two starters walked away from the team after last season.
The rest of the team works just as hard as #0.
About 90% of the posters in here have no clue what I'm even talking about. They're comfortable with their participation ribbons for "winning" even though there's a breakdown on offense. It's so sad how mediocrity has permeated American culture. Nonetheless, I will continue my symposium on pointing out the poor coaching methods of Wojo and eventually bring the "less fortunate" into the information age.
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About 90% of the posters in here have no clue what I'm even talking about. They're comfortable with their participation ribbons for "winning" even though there's a breakdown on offense. It's so sad how mediocrity has permeated American culture. Nonetheless, I will continue my symposium on pointing out the poor coaching methods of Wojo and eventually bring the "less fortunate" into the information age.
Ok, boomer
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Oh good grief... again!
Brother Glasses, here's the issue about last night. Our team just lost its leading scorer. They were playing in a hostile arena on the road and the defense of Xavier was really tough.
WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN.
For all you Nojos out there, think about it. How many teams would have folded up and called it a moral victory when Xavier held on to win by 6 or 8?
Quite a few IMHO. Quite a few.
What kept us going last night was coaching and motivation. Period. Wojo pushed. Our guys pushed. We didn't play a great game and, yes, Xavier missed a bushel full of free throws. But we found a way to win.
Rather than looking for yet another way to bash our head coach and the team, let's celebrate what happened. Sure, we made mistakes and the game went longer than it should have lasted, but boy we played tough and hard and we won! They'll be enough time for bashing later.
Given the way we played defense, a certain Irishman is looking down from heaven and screaming, "attaboy!"
Why can't folks just celebrate a job well done, dg? You know why. Because for a small but vocal cadre of Scoopers, there will be no joy allowed until this coach is gone.
Since we were on the brink of Scoopageddon 3 weeks ago, our heroes have won 4 of 5, with the one loss in OT on the road against a ranked team, yet even this stretch there is strictly a No Joy Allowed rule.
I am convinced that it doesn't matter even if our Warriors reach the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 this season. Until the evil Wojo is gone, these pitiable mopes will not let themselves experience any Marquette basketball joy. And even if Wojo leaves for another job, and takes several (maybe all?) of his recruits with him, and we get another coach ... the new MU coach will have been the "wrong" hire, too.
Sad to go through life unable to celebrate the journey, always desperately searching for a destination at which they probably never will arrive.
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Lol, it further underlines my point. There's a total lack of continuity on offense. It should be much more dynamic than it is.....
Is this on top of their, as you say, lack of defensive identity? How have they been able to win a single game being so poor on each end? This team continues to win just to spite Wojo I bet.
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I said this would be a good team after the Hausers left. There is talent. Jayce transferred in and Symir reclassified and I looked at the team and said similar record. Markus missed a game with a concussion. Win. Missed the last 22 minutes of a road game. Win. This team is more than Markus and always has been. May be Wojo's finest coaching job so far.
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Why can't folks just celebrate a job well done, dg? You know why. Because for a small but vocal cadre of Scoopers, there will be no joy allowed until this coach is gone.
Since we were on the brink of Scoopageddon 3 weeks ago, our heroes have won 4 of 5, with the one loss in OT on the road against a ranked team, yet even this stretch there is strictly a No Joy Allowed rule.
I am convinced that it doesn't matter even if our Warriors reach the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 this season. Until the evil Wojo is gone, these pitiable mopes will not let themselves experience any Marquette basketball joy. And even if Wojo leaves for another job, and takes several (maybe all?) of his recruits with him, and we get another coach ... the new MU coach will have been the "wrong" hire, too.
Sad to go through life unable to celebrate the journey, always desperately searching for a destination at which they probably never will arrive.
Your monologue sounds so much like the "P" word we're not allowed to post about here. Only, your role is reversed, aina?
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Speaking of Markus' injury, I see the Twitter doctors are out in full force this morning.
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Your monologue sounds so much like the "P" word we're not allowed to post about here. Only, your role is reversed, aina?
Politics? Where?
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Will he wear one of those clear face masks?
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Hope Markus is okay. Does anyone know his status?
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Your monologue sounds so much like the "P" word we're not allowed to post about here. Only, your role is reversed, aina?
Really? Please point out even the faintest political reference there and I will apologize.
I mean come on, Doc, call a spade a spade, OK?
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Why can't folks just celebrate a job well done, dg? You know why. Because for a small but vocal cadre of Scoopers, there will be no joy allowed until this coach is gone.
Since we were on the brink of Scoopageddon 3 weeks ago, our heroes have won 4 of 5, with the one loss in OT on the road against a ranked team, yet even this stretch there is strictly a No Joy Allowed rule.
I am convinced that it doesn't matter even if our Warriors reach the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 this season. Until the evil Wojo is gone, these pitiable mopes will not let themselves experience any Marquette basketball joy. And even if Wojo leaves for another job, and takes several (maybe all?) of his recruits with him, and we get another coach ... the new MU coach will have been the "wrong" hire, too.
Sad to go through life unable to celebrate the journey, always desperately searching for a destination at which they probably never will arrive.
Amen.
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I said this would be a good team after the Hausers left. There is talent. Jayce transferred in and Symir reclassified and I looked at the team and said similar record. Markus missed a game with a concussion. Win. Missed the last 22 minutes of a road game. Win. This team is more than Markus and always has been. May be Wojo's finest coaching job so far.
Agreed. If you remember, we were clawing back into the game against Maryland when Howard got into foul trouble. Love Howard but for whatever reason, I think don’t think he makes the players around him better when he is on the court. Or the players get timid when he is playing. Not sure what it is but I agree, there is some solid players on this team that seem to play better without him
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About 90% of the posters in here have no clue what I'm even talking about. They're comfortable with their participation ribbons for "winning" even though there's a breakdown on offense. It's so sad how mediocrity has permeated American culture. Nonetheless, I will continue my symposium on pointing out the poor coaching methods of Wojo and eventually bring the "less fortunate" into the information age.
Brother Glasses:
Baloney. We are not idiots.
Many of us have forgotten more basketball than you've seen. We've probably screamed louder when failing occurred (i.e., Providence and Butler) than your Gen X voice will ever generate. We know what's lacking in this team and we're hopeful, as Brother Goose has repeatedly pointed out, that the weaknesses will be fixed. We admit, we're not always sure.
But we refuse to not enjoy what the guys are doing. First of all, they're our guys and we celebrate their successes when they happen. They make us happy when they play hard and they win. They really do. For many of us, it's a diversion from real life and certainly a diversion for those of us Scoop Brothers and Sisters who have to deal with the dreariness of Midwestern life in winter. We're critical when they fail but we don't forget that we're dealing with 18-23 year old young men and, yes, we remember what it was like to be 18-23 and still learning.
Yeah, for us who remember 1977, or much of the 1970s for that matter, we want to get back there. We have frustrations because we don't get there fast enough. We want Wojo to succeed because rebuilding will make our next few winters even more miserable. We know Wojo is getting better and we hope the curve gets steeper faster!
Most importantly, we like to maintain a sense of perspective.
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Agreed. If you remember, we were clawing back into the game against Maryland when Howard got into foul trouble. Love Howard but for whatever reason, I think don’t think he makes the players around him better when he is on the court. Or the players get timid when he is playing. Not sure what it is but I agree, there is some solid players on this team that seem to play better without him
Yes, you can tell that those guys are all of a different mindset when MH is on the floor. Howard is a great scorer but he does not make his teammates better. If Wojo (and Howard to a lesser extent) can figure out how to get all these guys involved and firing at the same time then I would be a strong proJo. It may be too late.
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This is a team that had two key defections, another player walked away, multiple players playing through injuries, down a player to injury, and lost its star player to injury. They were also on the road playing against a team fighting for its tournament life.
The OP expects people to dismiss all these relevant factors and only focus on the things he/she thinks are important.
Nobody can be that stupid without doing it on purpose.
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Yes, you can tell that those guys are all of a different mindset when MH is on the floor. Howard is a great scorer but he does not make his teammates better. If Wojo (and Howard to a lesser extent) can figure out how to get all these guys involved and firing at the same time then I would be a strong proJo. It may be too late.
Sorry but this isn't really the case. He does make his teammates better. Yes the result turned out fine last night, but they scored 22 points in the second half, most of which was played without Markus on the floor. Despite that, he still lead the team in assists.
Yes he can be a ball stop. And yes he can get tunnell vision. No one would accuse him of being a fantastic point guard. But to say he doesn't make the other players better, I don't think is accurate.
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I don’t understand why people dismiss this. He ain’t wrong. This game was similar to the one at Georgetown last year.
Howard is a great scorer. He’s also the reason two starters walked away from the team after last season.
The rest of the team works just as hard as #0.
Agree with this, seems as though there is no coaching.
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Agreed. If you remember, we were clawing back into the game against Maryland when Howard got into foul trouble. Love Howard but for whatever reason, I think don’t think he makes the players around him better when he is on the court. Or the players get timid when he is playing. Not sure what it is but I agree, there is some solid players on this team that seem to play better without him
Sometimes they defer to the nation's leading scorer, returning BEPOY, preseason first team all american. Perhaps more than they should occasionally. Hard balance to find. To I take this shot and miss it, or give it to Markus, particularly in god mode? Which is actually better for the team, which gives the team a better chance of winning?
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Yes, you can tell that those guys are all of a different mindset when MH is on the floor. Howard is a great scorer but he does not make his teammates better. If Wojo (and Howard to a lesser extent) can figure out how to get all these guys involved and firing at the same time then I would be a strong proJo. It may be too late.
Marquette crushed X with Markus on the floor and everyone else involved at home. Did you miss that game??
In this game Marquette was playing off Markus in the first half and letting others do their thing. Fortunately, when X made a run, Markus was there to answer and took the team into halftime with a six point lead.
How quickly people forget.
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I don’t understand why people dismiss this. He ain’t wrong. This game was similar to the one at Georgetown last year.
Howard is a great scorer. He’s also the reason two starters walked away from the team after last season.
The rest of the team works just as hard as #0.
Let me explain why people dismiss this.
The OP does nothing but trash the Coach and players.
Have you heard of people looking for a silver lining after losses??
Well this troll looks for a soiled depends lining after wins.
Hope that explains things for you.
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This is a team that had two key defections, another player walked away, multiple players playing through injuries, down a player to injury, and lost its star player to injury. They were also on the road playing against a team fighting for its tournament life.
The OP expects people to dismiss all these relevant factors and only focus on the things he/she thinks are important.
Nobody can be that stupid without doing it on purpose.
This is also very true of you.
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Why can't folks just celebrate a job well done, dg? You know why. Because for a small but vocal cadre of Scoopers, there will be no joy allowed until this coach is gone.
Exactly what I was thinking last night after looking at Scoop. This is far from a perfect team. Wojo is nowhere near a perfect coach. But last night was a great win under difficult circumstances and many here not only can't enjoy it, but want to whine and cry over a victory and try to make everyone else miserable.
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This is also very true of you.
I'm smart enough to see right through this post and people like its author.
I can tell that bothers you for some reason.
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Exactly what I was thinking last night after looking at Scoop. This is far from a perfect team. Wojo is nowhere near a perfect coach. But last night was a great win under difficult circumstances and many here not only can't enjoy it, but want to whine and cry over a victory and try to make everyone else miserable.
If you're miserable that there's an opportunity for this team to improve then I'd say you're the one who has priorities out of order here. Again, if you can't handle constructive criticism then go hang on a thread where everyone pats each other's glutes after every game. I point out the flaws of where this team can improve and my underlying theme has always been that Wojo isn't a good coach for the following reasons:
A. Severe inconsistencies in offensive/defensive schemes
B. In game adjustments/execution are often lacking
C. Lack of fostering continuity on defense/offense
D. Reacts rather than being proactive
E. Relies on Howard too much, Gives Howard too much power which limits team offensive production
F. Player development has been shoddy
Every game I comment on, at least one of these issues rears it's ugly head. The point being, that no matter who walks through that recruiting door, Wojo will never get the max potential out of his teams. Something will always be left on the table, hence the ceiling is always limited here. If we win by 3, we probably should have won by 7 or 8. If we lose by 25, we should have lost by 15. The margin of error is just too high with Wojo coaching and when it comes to the postseason, that becomes much more prominent.
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I don’t understand why people dismiss this. He ain’t wrong. This game was similar to the one at Georgetown last year.
Howard is a great scorer. He’s also the reason two starters walked away from the team after last season.
The rest of the team works just as hard as #0.
yes, this. Markus goes down last year and Sam steps up and goes for 30+. Last night Koby and Sacar are able to step up and show what they have. Better ball movement, defense not able to key on one individual. This is going to be a better team next year.
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yes, this. Markus goes down last year and Sam steps up and goes for 30+. Last night Koby and Sacar are able to step up and show what they have. Better ball movement, defense not able to key on one individual. This is going to be a better team next year.
Last night was not an example of better ball movement without markus
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About 90% of the posters in here have no clue what I'm even talking about. They're comfortable with their participation ribbons for "winning" even though there's a breakdown on offense. It's so sad how mediocrity has permeated American culture. Nonetheless, I will continue my symposium on pointing out the poor coaching methods of Wojo and eventually bring the "less fortunate" into the information age.
You're not open the eyes of a generation. You're just annoying 50 people on a message board.
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If you're miserable that there's an opportunity for this team to improve then I'd say you're the one who has priorities out of order here. Again, if you can't handle constructive criticism then go hang on a thread where everyone pats each other's glutes after every game. I point out the flaws of where this team can improve and my underlying theme has always been that Wojo isn't a good coach for the following reasons:
A. Severe inconsistencies in offensive/defensive schemes
B. In game adjustments/execution are often lacking
C. Lack of fostering continuity on defense/offense
D. Reacts rather than being proactive
E. Relies on Howard too much, Gives Howard too much power which limits team offensive production
F. Player development has been shoddy
Every game I comment on, at least one of these issues rears it's ugly head. The point being, that no matter who walks through that recruiting door, Wojo will never get the max potential out of his teams. Something will always be left on the table, hence the ceiling is always limited here. If we win by 3, we probably should have won by 7 or 8. If we lose by 25, we should have lost by 15. The margin of error is just too high with Wojo coaching and when it comes to the postseason, that becomes much more prominent.
Other posters repeatedly use facts and statistics to prove many items on your list wrong. But here you are still with the lies. Just like saying Wojo didn't tell the team to foul.
Keep up the lies though
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MDDG and others like him expect people to ignore reality and accept their Pollyanna view of BEast basketball.
In their warped view, injuries, fatigue, opponents, road games, limited roster, etc, shouldn't be considered when evaluating a win or a loss.
They expect, or more accurately, DEMAND perfection regardless of the circumstances.
A win is never good enough and a loss is unforgivable.
They seem to think that Wojo should draw up a game plan and if he's a good coach it will go off without a hitch.
They must have forgotten the famous Mike Tyson quote.
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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If you're miserable that there's an opportunity for this team to improve then I'd say you're the one who has priorities out of order here. Again, if you can't handle constructive criticism then go hang on a thread where everyone pats each other's glutes after every game. I point out the flaws of where this team can improve and my underlying theme has always been that Wojo isn't a good coach for the following reasons:
A. Severe inconsistencies in offensive/defensive schemes
B. In game adjustments/execution are often lacking
C. Lack of fostering continuity on defense/offense
D. Reacts rather than being proactive
E. Relies on Howard too much, Gives Howard too much power which limits team offensive production
F. Player development has been shoddy
Every game I comment on, at least one of these issues rears it's ugly head. The point being, that no matter who walks through that recruiting door, Wojo will never get the max potential out of his teams. Something will always be left on the table, hence the ceiling is always limited here. If we win by 3, we probably should have won by 7 or 8. If we lose by 25, we should have lost by 15. The margin of error is just too high with Wojo coaching and when it comes to the postseason, that becomes much more prominent.
I don't know why someone didn't let you know at as young age that you are not smarter than everyone else. Just more annoying.
But, I guess that is your goal.
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The problem is.....He lays out good points and bitches.....
I believe his solution.....and that is part of the problem......I would assume he is in the fire WOJO camp.....
I believe there can be a middle ground.....
WOJO is a good "manager of the program".....and his recruiting has steadily improved.....His in-game coaching management is inadequate and a "senior" advisor should come in and infuse ideas and thoughts....
Clearly fouling in a tie game leaves a lot to be desired.....Just one example.....
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Imo, this was probably Wojo's best job as a coach and it was certainly a good/great win considering the absence of Markus.
It is also a solid observation about running a more balanced offense. Markus is an amazing scorer but the team would be stronger and more dangerous if three people are doing the scoring on a regular basis. I think that is just common sense.
Valid points on both sides and both are correct.
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yes, this. Markus goes down last year and Sam steps up and goes for 30+. Last night Koby and Sacar are able to step up and show what they have. Better ball movement, defense not able to key on one individual. This is going to be a better team next year.
If you think last night was an example of better distribution and movement without Markus you might want to watch the game again.
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not really easy to watch the field goal drought between the Symir basket @ 7:13 and Koby's basket @ 1:27
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Good grief.
Gang, just enjoy last night. Warts and all.
It was a win.
It was an important win.
We're improving bit by bit.
Enjoy it and worry about the end of the season at the end of the season.
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About 90% of the posters in here have no clue what I'm even talking about. They're comfortable with their participation ribbons for "winning" even though there's a breakdown on offense. It's so sad how mediocrity has permeated American culture. Nonetheless, I will continue my symposium on pointing out the poor coaching methods of Wojo and eventually bring the "less fortunate" into the information age.
Offense is ranked higher than last year so far, so no.
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About 90% of the posters in here have no clue what I'm even talking about.
The most accurate thing you've ever written here.
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WOJO is a good "manager of the program".....and his recruiting has steadily improved.....His in-game coaching management is inadequate and a "senior" advisor should come in and infuse ideas and thoughts....
Like who?
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Like who?
That's a tough ask.
We know that Buzz had Jerry Wainwright. Al even had Hank. Wojo needs something similar.
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Really? Please point out even the faintest political reference there and I will apologize.
I mean come on, Doc, call a spade a spade, OK?
He is proof that grain less diet is terrible for the brain
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Last night was not an example of better ball movement without markus
This is entirely correct. There was one stretch against Georgetown where Markus sat for a four minute stretch or so due to foul trouble and we moved the ball well and got layups and open threes and scored on all but one possession. Not last night. Our offense was pretty stagnant with and without Markus, but our defense was stellar and we made some big, tough shots when it counted. Hardly an offensive clinic. That was what gutting out a win looks like.
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That's a tough ask.
We know that Buzz had Jerry Wainwright. Al even had Hank. Wojo needs something similar.
That's essentially what Rob Judson's role us supposed to be.
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That's a tough ask.
We know that Buzz had Jerry Wainwright. Al even had Hank. Wojo needs something similar.
Buzz had jerry for two years one of which was crap it's not like jerry was there the whole time.
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That's a tough ask.
We know that Buzz had Jerry Wainwright. Al even had Hank. Wojo needs something similar.
Buzz had Jerry Wainwright for two years. Al inherited Hank - and it was a much different era than it is now.
There aren't a lot of seasoned, moderately successful coaches that are yearning to become assistants. Most of them are likely Judson types - which is who MU has now. Or maybe they could find a guy who was successful at the D2 or D3 levels. I don't know.
But this keeps getting brought up here like those are easy people to find. And they aren't.
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That's essentially what Rob Judson's role us supposed to be.
Just in case people don't know his background.
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/rob-judson/442
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This is probably a really stupid idea, but maybe Wojo could hire a guy like Tony Smith in this kind of role.
https://247sports.com/college/miami/Article/Hall-of-Famer-Ed-Reed-has-been-hired-as-chief-of-staff-at-Miami-Hurricanes-143107179/
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Another assistant isn't going to make a world of a difference. If you don't have the ingame coaching skills, you just don't have them after 21 years of being on the sidelines. It's not something that is going to magically appear all of a sudden...
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Mike Deane is available.
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M.D. is just what the doctor ordered to cure those game-bench coaching blues.
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Mike Deane is available.
He's retired now. Let the legend enjoy his golden years.
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MDDGs Jedi mind trick may have worked on some of you but I'm calling BS
Wojo coached Marquette to a double overtime win under extremely adverse conditions and people are falling for this change in the narrative.
Weak minded fools.
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He didn't break his nose and he will be playing. It's his senior season and nothing is going to stop him unless he does take another chicken wing to the nose.
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Marquette crushed X with Markus on the floor and everyone else involved at home. Did you miss that game??
In this game Marquette was playing off Markus in the first half and letting others do their thing. Fortunately, when X made a run, Markus was there to answer and took they team into halftime with a six point lead.
How quickly people forget.
Right on. Howard was playing extremely well in this game until the injury. He showed leadership and great team play. He took over the game when we needed him to.
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I'd imagine it's not as simple as a mask. Part may depend on inflammation.
Maybe this will be one of those magical flukes where he'll gain a special power as a result of the injury...better defense or an ability to create for others? Or maybe not.
It might make himself look in the mirror and think again about dribbling into a double team.
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It might make himself look in the mirror and think again about dribbling into a double team.
I wonder what it would take to get you to look at yourself in the mirror.
I'm guessing you might need a mask as well.
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I wonder what it would take to get you to look at yourself in the mirror.
I'm guessing you might need a mask as well.
(https://broussards1889.com/media/zoo/images/Jennis%20James%20silhouette-web_c4352b61fe9b55a16f18e63fc91f20cf.jpg)
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Yikes , that's creepy AF!!!
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Good grief.
Gang, just enjoy last night. Warts and all.
It was a win.
It was an important win.
We're improving bit by bit.
Enjoy it and worry about the end of the season at the end of the season.
This
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Like who?
*whom
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This is entirely correct. There was one stretch against Georgetown where Markus sat for a four minute stretch or so due to foul trouble and we moved the ball well and got layups and open threes and scored on all but one possession. Not last night. Our offense was pretty stagnant with and without Markus, but our defense was stellar and we made some big, tough shots when it counted. Hardly an offensive clinic. That was what gutting out a win looks like.
Unfortunately our defense was terrible, MU allowed Xavier eFG of over 50%.
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Unfortunately our defense was terrible, MU allowed Xavier eFG of over 50%.
Our defense was just fine, eFG doesn't tell the whole story of the game. X has a season average 2pt% of 49.8%, MU held them to 43.2%....that's good defense. The eFG number is driven by X going off from 3 where on the season they are 30.5% but in this game shot 47.8% almost exclusively because a season long 25% 3pt shooter in Goodin went off (5 of 8 from 3). The strategy was to let Goodin shoot and pack the paint....he responded with a good shooting night, it happens. Doesn't mean the defense was bad, in fact I thought they were quite good.
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Unfortunately our defense was terrible, MU allowed Xavier eFG of over 50%.
Point well taken, but we held them to 12 points in the last 12 minutes of regulation. That defense is what allowed us to force OT.
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Our defense was just fine, eFG doesn't tell the whole story of the game. X has a season average 2pt% of 49.8%, MU held them to 43.2%....that's good defense. The eFG number is driven by X going off from 3 where on the season they are 30.5% but in this game shot 47.8% almost exclusively because a season long 25% 3pt shooter in Goodin went off (5 of 8 from 3). The strategy was to let Goodin shoot and pack the paint....he responded with a good shooting night, it happens. Doesn't mean the defense was bad, in fact I thought they were quite good.
Agreed. I was afraid they might get Theo in foul trouble and dominate the paint. Thank goodness my fears were unrealized.
No defense can stop everything. You have to pick your poison. X was extremely fortunate that a guy who had missed 20 straight 3s suddenly turned into Ray Allen, and that another sub-30% guy threw in the tying hoop from 30 feet at the buzzer after Symir played pittypat instead of fouling as instructed.
Unbelievable how lucky X was almost from start to finish in this game, playing at home before a capacity crowd, against a team that lost the nation's leading scorer ... and yet we still found a way to beat 'em.
Going back to the subject line, it showed a lot about the heart of Wojo's team.
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Our defense was just fine, eFG doesn't tell the whole story of the game. X has a season average 2pt% of 49.8%, MU held them to 43.2%....that's good defense. The eFG number is driven by X going off from 3 where on the season they are 30.5% but in this game shot 47.8% almost exclusively because a season long 25% 3pt shooter in Goodin went off (5 of 8 from 3). The strategy was to let Goodin shoot and pack the paint....he responded with a good shooting night, it happens. Doesn't mean the defense was bad, in fact I thought they were quite good.
So if a team is held 6.2% below its 2pt% average that is good defense.And if they shoot 17.3 % better than their 3pt% average that is also good defense.
We decided to clog the middle and give them the outside shot. Sound strategy given past performance. Sometimes sound strategies don’t work - a 50.5 efg% says it didn’t.
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So if a team is held 6.2% below its 2pt% average that is good defense.And if they shoot 17.3 % better than their 3pt% average that is also good defense.
We decided to clog the middle and give them the outside shot. Sound strategy given past performance. Sometimes sound strategies don’t work - a 50.5 efg% says it didn’t.
Never said the 17.3% above the average 3pt% was a sign of good defense....it was a sign of a team playing way outside their norm. On the season, MU has been solid at defending the 3 and X has been bad at shooting 3s, which is more likely that MU forgot how to defend the 3 or X had an outlier night?
As far as strategies not working.....did we win the game or not? did we win the game against Georgetown when we had our worst eFG% defense of the season? I get what the stats say but I would absolutely not change the approach we had against X if we play them in the BEast tournament.
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Why would you pull some random guy's obituary photo?
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So if a team is held 6.2% below its 2pt% average that is good defense.And if they shoot 17.3 % better than their 3pt% average that is also good defense.
We decided to clog the middle and give them the outside shot. Sound strategy given past performance. Sometimes sound strategies don’t work - a 50.5 efg% says it didn’t.
Three point shooting is a crapshoot. Watching the Iowa/Wisconsin game Iowa, a good three point shooting team, kept missing wide open threes. Statistically it looked like Wisconsin was playing good defense, but if you watched the game defense had very little to do with Iowa missing threes.
Watching Markus you can see great defense does not result in him missing threes and there are times when he is wide open and he misses.
A good offense will get open threes but the players still have to make them.
A good defense does not give the good shooters open threes. That does not mean the bad shooters will not make them.
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Goodin hadn't hit a trey in over five weeks. For a chucker like that, of course you don't guard him him much.
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Agreed. I was afraid they might get Theo in foul trouble and dominate the paint. Thank goodness my fears were unrealized.
No defense can stop everything. You have to pick your poison. X was extremely fortunate that a guy who had missed 20 straight 3s suddenly turned into Ray Allen, and that another sub-30% guy threw in the tying hoop from 30 feet at the buzzer after Symir played pittypat instead of fouling as instructed.
Unbelievable how lucky X was almost from start to finish in this game, playing at home before a capacity crowd, against a team that lost the nation's leading scorer ... and yet we still found a way to beat 'em.
Going back to the subject line, it showed a lot about the heart of Wojo's team.
They did dominate the paint. Theo 4 rebs while Jones had 15. I like Theo but he is a horrible rebounder, compared to Jayce.
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Goodin hadn't hit a trey in over five weeks. For a chucker like that, of course you don't guard him him much.
Yup. The last time he hit a 3 in a game, he was still wondering what he would get for Christmas. Wojo played the percentages. Clearly the reason MU lost this game.
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They did dominate the paint. Theo 4 rebs while Jones had 15. I like Theo but he is a horrible rebounder, compared to Jayce.
Eh, statistically speaking Jayce is one of the best rebounders in the country, a lot of players are going to look inferior to him. Boards should also be viewed as a team stat rather than individual. We out-rebounded them 42-40, and I doubt that Jamal would have gotten 9, or BB 8, if Theo wasn't boxing out. Reminder that Otule was the 4th leading rebounder on the E8 team.
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Eh, statistically speaking Jayce is one of the best rebounders in the country, a lot of players are going to look inferior to him. Boards should also be viewed as a team stat rather than individual. We out-rebounded them 42-40, and I doubt that Jamal would have gotten 9, or BB 8, if Theo wasn't boxing out. Reminder that Otule was the 4th leading rebounder on the E8 team.
Excellent points. Theo is a presence in the paint, even if he doesn't get all that many rebounds himself. Quite often, he is taken out of rebounding position because he has so much responsibility as a help defender; sometimes he does take himself out of position by jumping when faked.