Oso planning to go pro
Stop making these companies out to be the good guys. If were operating in normal market conditions, of course they should be due compensation. But that isn't what this situation is. Pfizer and Moderna are each slated to make over $18-24 billion dollars this year, each!And the mRNA technology research has been funded by American taxpayers via the NIH, and then we preordered millions of doses from them. What a deal! Talk about government subsidized success! Next up, they get to gouge the very people who paid for the R&D, production, and absolute success of their company with booster shots that will make them billions. Publicly funded risk, private reward. Truly the American dream.I know you're a smart dude, but I doubt you listened to the program. Everything you're talking about was covered.
I don't see this as a good guys or bad guys thing. I just see it as incentivizing companies to do what is most beneficial. That's really it. You take away IP protections this time, who is going to jump in to save the day the next time?
This is Moderna's first product they've taken to market ever. They are not the big bad guys you're looking for. They just IPO'd with great tech, and thank goodness they got enough partnerships in place to scale production. I feel bad for BioNTech that Pfizer stole their thunder. Another excellent young company saving the butts of billions.I don't really have a dog in the IP fight besides IP/Patent law being broken.
Literally anyone that wants to make the $18-24 billion that Moderna and Pfizer are walking away with before this year is out.
Just trying to save some human lives instead of stock portfolios.
They're the bad guys in the same respect that they're having their cake and wanting to eat it too. I'm not talking about putting them out of business, obviously. It isn't as if stripping them of their patent information would make their company worth zero.
IP is the lifeblood of pharma. If you don't have patent protections, you have nothing. You take that away from Moderna and they go bye-bye tomorrow. This is the only drug they've brought to market. What a great way to treat an innovative small company that literally saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
Except that if anyone else could manufacture it due to the IP being public, they wouldn't have made that much. Also, Moderna's revenue was $1.9 billion in Q1. Not sure where you are getting $18-24 billion this year.
Realistically, how quickly could another company ramp up production and meet the quality standards if they got their hands on the IP today? Would it make a big difference?
Well this seems potentially not good if accurate:Cyprus Finds Covid-19 Infections That Combine Delta and Omicronhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-08/cyprus-finds-covid-19-infections-that-combine-delta-and-omicron"A strain of Covid-19 that combines delta and omicron was found in Cyprus, according to Leondios Kostrikis, professor of biological sciences at the University of Cyprus and head of the Laboratory of Biotechnology and Molecular Virology. “There are currently omicron and delta co-infections and we found this strain that is a combination of these two,” Kostrikis said in an interview with Sigma TV Friday. The discovery was named “deltacron” due to the identification of omicron-like genetic signatures within the delta genomes, he said."
It’s not accurate. Likely a contamination.https://mobile.twitter.com/PeacockFlu/status/1475928935745699840Tom Peacock@PeacockFluSmall update: the Cypriot 'Deltacron' sequences reported by several large media outlets look to be quite clearly contamination - they do not cluster on a phylogenetic tree and have a whole Artic primer sequencing amplicon of Omicron in an otherwise Delta backbone.
Good news. Although I suspect that guy is just making up words and phrases!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-makes-bidens-vaccine-mandates-obsolete-covid-healthcare-osha-evidence-supreme-court-11641760009?st=wm9kr5bv8ia86tl&reflink=article_copyURL_shareIn this opinion piece it makes reference to data saying that after 90 days a vaccinated person is MORE likely to catch Omicron. Can this be possible or even make scientific sense?
Look up who the authors are and you’ll know.
A Nobel prize winner for discovering HIV, is that a bad?? He uses actual data though to make the argument and with the Pfizer CEO coming out today saying the current version of the vaccine does “little to nothing” in protecting against Omicron I’m not exactly worried about the author as much as clarification on the data.
He’s been wrong about COVID from the beginning and once wrote a paper entitled “Electromagnetic Signals Are Produced by Aqueous Nanostructures Derived from Bacterial DNA Sequences." (They aren’t.)Complete whack job teaming up with an anti-vaccine lawyer.
He also discovered HIV
You apparently graduated from Marquette. Peaking early doesn’t mean anything.
That’s actually a pretty good one!! I’d argue my peak was well before MU days though.
Nice catch. We should definitely listen to an anti-vaxxer about the effectiveness of vaccines.Once again, the troll is here only to spread bullsh!t.