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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on January 20, 2024, 10:44:57 AM
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LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!
How's everybody feeling this morning?
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I hope none of the players get infected with COVID, causing them to miss a week or more. I hope everyone plays to the best of their abilities in order to give glory to God.
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Here’s hoping we get through a game without fouling on a hopeless 3.
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Let’s just hope these student athletes have fun, and learn about sportsmanship and teamwork.
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Here’s hoping we get through a game without fouling on a hopeless 3.
That can't happen anymore, agreed.
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Let’s just kick their a$$.
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LFG!!!
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Let’s just kick their a$$.
Well said!!!
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Ben and Jop hitting three 3's a piece wouldn't hurt.
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LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!
How's everybody feeling this morning?
How are you feeling?
I’m feeling like MU better break its road game pattern of falling behind by double digits and trying to come back because that hasn’t been working.
I’ll probably stay off the game thread to keep from offending anyone if I get frustrated.
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How are you feeling?
I’m feeling like MU better break its road game pattern of falling behind by double digits and trying to come back because that hasn’t been working.
I’ll probably stay off the game thread to keep from offending anyone if I get frustrated.
You don't have to do that. I apologize Blue.
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Not going to sin today
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Ben and Jop hitting three 3's a piece wouldn't hurt.
What about Jolp
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Tim Brando is doing the game - we’re screwed. 😱
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Cmon Oso.
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Dunk the f'n ball
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After missing the bunny, MU will probably lose by 2.
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Go strong!! Have to finish chippies!
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Beautiful dime by Tyko there.
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Keep going to hoop! Goo Marquette!
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Tv time out. No subs?
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So apparently the funk has made the trip to NY
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3 secs on Soriano?
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Still ice cold from three. 👀
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Sweet Jesus! Focus!!
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So far, not great.
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3 secs on Soriano?
That’s never called anymore.
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Here we go again…
3 ? Clank
3 ? Clank … clank clank clank
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Still ice cold from three. 👀
It's freaking nuts. But three were bad shots imo.
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Is this a new court? Doesn't look familiar. Kind of distracting
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Tre …
2 fouls in 2 mins
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Jolp been terrible so far
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Yes. The court is FUGLY
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It’s like a universal law they have to miss 7 or 8 threes before they hit one
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Not hitting outside so keep going in which has been working. Ben will hit a three soon…. Just feel it!
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I truly don’t know if we will ever have a good game from 3 in conference
It’s just constant bricks over and over. Not even close.
We are once again getting any shot we want. But can’t make a 3 and have missed like 3 bunnies too.
should be up healthy as the announcers noted
Can’t fault the effort yet, team is engaged and active. The shooting is just beyond words at this point
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Same old story
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St. J goes zone. Will some one make a fking outside shot? Zaide time?
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Another wide open brick
Why not try Al if Ben is gonna brick every shot he takes?
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Wonder if they're confused with NBA 3 line,although it probably doesn't matter
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Well, time to check it off the bingo card. MU fouls on a three.
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Did that see just happen again?
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We are by far the dumbest team in the country closing on threes, and it isn’t even close.
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Marquette ice cold from 3
Opponent hot from 3
Fouling a 3 point shooter.
We are consistent.
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I knew it was too much to hope for.
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And there is the game to game foul the 3 shooter
Of course SJU makes the 3 too
Fu cking insane to have every single game especially on the road be the exact same
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Alright. Fouling yet another 3 point shooter.
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Back to Brick City from 3, wonder if Gold will ever make a 3
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Pretty nice D and effort by Gold so far. Same goes for Lowery
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Just stop shooting threes !!
Stop ! What ? O for 10 ?
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It's freaking insane. 0-10??
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Every 3 is beyond college 3???
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Shaka has to recruit a shooter - this is embarrassing yet again - 0-9 and counting.
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You could put me and muggsy out there and we would accidentally make a 3
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0-9 on threes. This game…. Regression to the mean will rule. We will hardly miss another three
AAnd we should stop throwing the ball out of bounds. Yikes
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0-9 from 3. Obvious that Gold will never make a 3, but not from a lack of trying. This may be the worst 3 point shooting team at MU in eons.
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Incredibly poor 3pt shooting. Unbelievable
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I know I’m not a basketball expert, so I’ve been keeping an open mind due to so many people legitimately smarter than me saying Gold is going to be a special player. I just don’t see anything that aligns with what I’ve been told.
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You could put me and muggsy out there and we would accidentally make a 3
Clearly mental. I'm not saying we're good from distance but this is unprecedented stuff.
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The gang that couldn’t shoot straight.
This is a group head case.
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Not hitting outside so keep going in which has been working. Ben will hit a three soon…. Just feel it!
Doubt it. He is now 0 for last 12 from three and hasn’t made one in five games.
Team 0 for 9. Keep firing……Keep shooting. Just unreal.
And another foul on a three. Have to lead country in this. Weird
Beside Kolek giving Ledlum two made open threes and a back door layup, totaling 8 points, defense outstanding. Keeping them in game.
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this team literally cannot shoot. this isn't something that is going to be fixed. bad personnel by shaka for his style of play. you would think we could have a few hot games, lets hope they are in march
gotta say I have no idea what shaka is thinking if his style is to shoot so many 3's. he has to know he has a team that cannot shoot, right? i can't remember such an inept team bricking open shot after open shot
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0-9 from 3. Obvious that Gold will never make a 3, but not from a lack of trying. This may be the worst 3 point shooting team at MU in eons.
Same guys who hit threes last year for most part. We will get this right
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Shaka has to recruit a shooter - this is embarrassing yet again - 0-9 and counting.
He needs to recruit several shooters. Most other teams have 2 to 4. We have half of one with Kam.
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A decent 8th grade team shoots better from 3 …. WAY BETTER
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Forced 9 TOs including 7 steals. Only thing allowing MU to hang given the results from 3.
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The gang that couldn’t shoot straight.
This is a group head case.
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Stats I'm seeing say they have 9TO and we only 2. Doesn't seem like it. 0-9 threes as we all know 😨
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Still amazing to me how bad this team is from three.
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Really surprised to see Gold struggling so much from 3 this year. His shot got a little flat for some reason. Zaide's shot form and arc look great and I expect nice results there. Kam will get hot, and that alone will make us look like a much better team.
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I’d say enough talk of …they’ll eventually go in. This is a $hitty team from the outside. Ain’t gonna change.
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Elite ineptitude. Those shots get lost in flight.
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Clearly mental. I'm not saying we're good from distance but this is unprecedented stuff.
Yeah as Ive said many times, we lost Omax from last year. He was 33% and below the team average
Somehow every single returning player has gotten worse at shooting. Except technically Ben but he was such low volume last year and currently cant hit water if he fell out of a boat.
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We look like the superior team to me.
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Forced 9 TOs including 7 steals. Only thing allowing MU to hang given the results from 3.
On the flip side wed also be up about 15 per usual if we could shoot a lick
Basically the story of every game. Oppenent turns it over a lot, we cant shoot.
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We look like the superior team to me.
Huh…
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Stevie brick in the paint
easy lay up
Stevie misses 3 while also stepping out of bounds before actually missing it
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Team is extremely weak
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Ben has to pick that up.
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This is bar none atrocious. Mitchell cannot shoot either. What a pile of dung.
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That possession sums up this team on the road
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Why did Joplin run away from the man with the ball?
Sitting now.
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Wow, they are getting bullied now.
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This is gonna be another road loss …
They are not “ fixing “ these issues. They are getting worse.
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This team is mentally broken
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good lord we suck right now. such high hopes for a fun season, starting to look like every win will be a grind. what a letdown
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Getting ass kicked all over the floor. Time to push the panic button Shaka, with both hands.
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We look like the superior team to me.
why?
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Beyond frustrating right now. Getting anything we want, St. J with tons of turns, and literally cannot make anything outside of 2 feet.
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We look like the superior team to me.
Like MU is from Superior? Watching the same game?
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Getting ass kicked all over the floor. Time to push the panic button Shaka, with both hands.
he might have pushed the self destruct button instead
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We look like the superior team to me.
Looked superior over Butler and SH too.
Come on Muggs, looks?? What does that mean. Looks mean nothing, but MU has had plenty of looks from three…….hows that working. 0 for 10 now.
Get Gold out of there, getting destroyed on drives, can’t hold a rebound, can’t make a shot. And just got burned again on defense.
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Can't hit a 3. Oso is scared to be physical. When will they figure it out?
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141 - you’re right
This team is lost…. Wow. Awful. Just god awful
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Not only is shooting horrendous, we’re mostly terrible getting to the line. Worst of both worlds. Rebounding sucks as usual too.
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Looked superior over Butler and SH too.
Come on Muggs, looks?? What does that mean. Looks mean nothing, but MU has had plenty of looks from three…….hows that working. 0 for 10 now.
Get Gold out of there, getting destroyed on drives, can’t hold a rebound, can’t make a shot. And just got burned again on defense.
We can get any shot we want but are mentally struggling because of our inability to make a 3.
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Looked superior over Butler and SH too.
Come on Muggs, looks?? What does that mean. Looks mean nothing, but MU has had plenty of looks from three…….hows that working. 0 for 10 now.
Get Gold out of there, getting destroyed on drives, can’t hold a rebound, can’t make a shot. And just got burned again on defense.
shaka was too stubborn to take a transfer so we have no choice but to play him.....
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The inability to make a jump shot is affecting everything else.
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This team can’t even pray to be competitive on a road game. Absolutely bizzare and pathetic. Idk what to sa. What is going on
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Stop playing Brick shot Ben.
He cant defend atheltes its comical. He has zero value if he cant make a shot.
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Packing the paint til we bring them out. Somebody take a shot from the line and make it
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Can't hit a 3. Oso is scared to be physical. When will they figure it out?
but isn’t Oso NBA talent? Please.
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Pathetic showing from a team going nowhere
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It used to be “it’s ok. We regress to the mean, we win this running away” but now our average is like 2/27 on threes, so that logic doesn’t work.
Let this be a lesson: I never want to start a season top 10 again. The fall hurts worse than the actual losing!
(All this said, the team is out there competing. Can’t fault the effort!)
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The inability to make a jump shot is affecting everything else.
Spot-on. And that's what's so frustrating.
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Biggest issue I see is physicality...Big East officiating this year seems to be allowing more physicality and that kills our squad.
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Like MU is from Superior? Watching the same game?
Yikes!
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It used to be “it’s ok. We regress to the mean, we win this running away” but now our average is like 2/27 on threes, so that logic doesn’t work.
Let this be a lesson: I never want to start a season top 10 again. The fall hurts worse than the actual losing!
(All this said, the team is out there competing. Can’t fault the effort!)
+1
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I don’t recall a season where there has been such a remarkable change in a team from one part of the season to another. I think the thoughts of MU being a better team are clouded by having the knowledge of how this team can play. It really isn’t that team any more. I hope at some point the team that started the season returns but no, at this point, MU is not a better team
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I think are just a middle of the pack team. Nothing Shaka can do about it when we have no one who can shoot.
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This team can’t even pray to be competitive on a road game. Absolutely bizzare and pathetic. Idk what to sa. What is going on
At some point blame mostly rests on the man in charge.
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Biggest issue I see is physicality...Big East officiating this year seems to be allowing more physicality and that kills our squad.
It all goes back to shooting - make some shots and teams can’t pack it in and be physical.
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MU has room for inprovement
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It used to be “it’s ok. We regress to the mean, we win this running away” but now our average is like 2/27 on threes, so that logic doesn’t work.
Let this be a lesson: I never want to start a season top 10 again. The fall hurts worse than the actual losing!
(All this said, the team is out there competing. Can’t fault the effort!)
The lesson has to be if you are going to have a offensive philosphy that every player has a green light to shoot from 3
You have to recruit just ONE guy that can actually shoot the 3.
Incredible to have this philosphy and strategy and not have 1 guy who can shoot when ideally you should have 3-4.
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Sweet Jesus Jop.
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Same no finish, clanging threes
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I think are just a middle of the pack team. Nothing Shaka can do about it when we have no one who can shoot.
Who put this gang who can’t shoot or do much else together? For crying out loud. Take your blinders off.
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LOL we are so mentally unhinged Jop is passing up 3s to drive which he literally cant do..
If Jop drives into 2 guys off a kick out he should auto see the bench for 10 min
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Joplin should dribble more. Great things happen when he does.
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This is 100% a psychological issue.
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joplin is a terrible post up player. This team stinks. sayonara on another season
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Gentlemen, I know it’s still early in the game and I know we are the better team, but I don’t think we will win today.
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Joplin scared from shooting three now.
Has given up two opens for attempted layups/shots and missed both.
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MU has room for inprovement
well said! 😂
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I think are just a middle of the pack team. Nothing Shaka can do about it when we have no one who can shoot.
his team, though.
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Now we cant even make lay ups while SJU keeps getting O boards.
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Unless you have a unicorn post player, guard play and the three point shot opens up the two in the modern game. If you're 0-10 with a European-style guy playing the 5, you're going to lose. It isn't rocket science. All this "its toughness" talk is looking for something that isn't there.
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Two big buckets by Stevie.
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Same old story at half - make even a few shots and we’re up double digits.
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I think we should blow out this team frankly and may in fact do just that in the 2H.
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I think we should blow out this team frankly and may in fact do just that in the 2H.
We wont even blow out DePaul on the road
Im just praying actually win it
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I think we should blow out this team frankly and may in fact do just that in the 2H.
I think we’re watching different games.
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Two big buckets by Stevie.
A great job of using his body to shield the defender- Jop needs to take notes.
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We’re close and we will take this in the second half
Have to shake the fear of taking a 3 pointer and start making a few.
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I’m feeling like last season, winning the BE and BE tourney, was fools gold. MU is playing like Shaka’s Texas teams.
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Not a single jumper was made this half.
What the hell has happened to this team?
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We can still be a really good team if we can start hitting shots again. Absolutely baffling how we went from drilling them in November to one of the worst 3pt shooting teams in the country lately.
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People think shooting is the only issue? We’re minus 12 rebounding! That’s horrible for a game, let alone a half.
And one Ft attempted.
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Frustrating game again but a lot of great comedy in this thread.
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Two big buckets by Stevie.
Stevie has played well during these rough stretches we’ve had recently.
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Unless you have a unicorn post player, guard play and the three point shot opens up the two in the modern game. If you're 0-10 with a European-style guy playing the 5, you're going to lose. It isn't rocket science. All this "its toughness" talk is looking for something that isn't there.
Correct but it's impacting other areas of the game. This team needs to mentally get it together Burrow. They are clearly pressing on their open shots. Do we have a team psychologist?
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People think shooting is the only issue? We’re minus 12 rebounding! That’s horrible for a game, let alone a half.
And one Ft attempted.
ugh!!
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I’m feeling like last season, winning the BE and BE tourney, was fools gold. MU is playing like Shaka’s Texas teams.
Bingo!
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Muggs … MU will “ blow them out “
in 2d half ? That’s hilarious.
This team is just bad. Will finish
middle of BE …. And is looking like a
9 seed …
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Lucky to be down 6 at half. Ty Stevie for cutting the lead. Need to score first in the second half. I think we get the ball.
Drive and kick, drive and score. Some 3 ball is going to go down for MU soon. Early in second half please! Go Marquette!
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Unless you have a unicorn post player, guard play and the three point shot opens up the two in the modern game. If you're 0-10 with a European-style guy playing the 5, you're going to lose. It isn't rocket science. All this "its toughness" talk is looking for something that isn't there.
+1000
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People think shooting is the only issue? We’re minus 12 rebounding! That’s horrible for a game, let alone a half.
And one Ft attempted.
What would you do if you were in charge Hutch? I'm stunned with our ineptitude.
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Law of average is always a thing
At this point might as well hope the trash shooting continues for the rest of BE while still pulling out 7-8 more wins on 30% 3 shooting so we can make the dance
Then just black out and shoot 45% for 6 straight games when it matters as a 10 seed.
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People think shooting is the only issue? We’re minus 12 rebounding! That’s horrible for a game, let alone a half.
And one Ft attempted.
That happened last year too and we did fine - it’s all about shooting right now.
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Who put this gang who can’t shoot or do much else together? For crying out loud. Take your blinders off.
Lol. They shot all of last year and the start of this year.
You're going to tell me that you if you were the coach you would have cut the whole team after going 29-7 and started over?
We have the guys. The guys need to make the shots.
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I think we should blow out this team frankly and may in fact do just that in the 2H.
SJ has 10 turnovers, but 19 to 10 in rebounds, along with zero MU threes give them lead.
MU needs more from the bench, zero nothings from all. Norman had two fouls in thirty seconds and Gold is just a disaster on all ends of floor. Play that Lowery kid more.
Long way to go, maybe make some threes……Come on Gold, have to help out here with bench play.
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We’re close and we will take this in the second half
Have to shake the fear of taking a 3 pointer and start making a few.
Yes - they're passing up shots now - in their own heads- Shaka needs to tell them to keep shooting - only thing that will keep the lane open
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Who put this gang who can’t shoot or do much else together? For crying out loud. Take your blinders off.
I don't think we can fault Shaka AT ALL. Why would he think his 7th rated offense last year, that returned everybody but O-Max (an avearage offensive player), would see every guy get worse at shooting 3 pointers? Clearly guys are pressing and some confidence shaken - Shaka's job is to try to instill confidence and not strip it away. Which, if he all of a sudden shifts gears and tells guys to limit 3 point attempts - think that erodes player confidence even further. End of the day it is all mental at this point with regard to our shooting.
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People think shooting is the only issue? We’re minus 12 rebounding! That’s horrible for a game, let alone a half.
And one Ft attempted.
Only issue? No
But if the team could just be competent shooting the 3(while also hopefully not bricking lay ups like most road games) wed be nearly impossible to beat.
Even with poor rebounding.
But we are 17.5 games in, we clearly cant shoot. The data is no longer small, therefor we will not be any real threat.
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Unless you have a unicorn post player, guard play and the three point shot opens up the two in the modern game. If you're 0-10 with a European-style guy playing the 5, you're going to lose. It isn't rocket science. All this "its toughness" talk is looking for something that isn't there.
100%
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SJ has 10 turnovers, but 19 to 10 in rebounds, along with zero MU threes give them lead.
MU needs more from the bench, zero nothings from all. Norman had two fouls in thirty seconds and Gold is just a disaster on all ends of floor. Play that Lowery kid more.
Long way to go, maybe make some threes……Come on Gold, have to help out here with bench play.
Gold has been terrible for 6 games and below expectations all season. The biggest disappointment on the team this year.
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We win when we are within 12 rebounds of other team and at least 2 of our Big Three are scoring. SjU will pack the paint in second half and force us to shoot threes. How will Shaka and team respond?
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I don't think we can fault Shaka AT ALL. Why would he think his 7th rated offense last year, that returned everybody but O-Max (an avearage offensive player), would see every guy get worse at shooting 3 pointers? Clearly guys are pressing and some confidence shaken - Shaka's job is to try to instill confidence and not strip it away. Which, if he all of a sudden shifts gears and tells guys to limit 3 point attempts - think that erodes player confidence even further. End of the day it is all mental at this point with regard to our shooting.
This is his most difficult task since he's been here. We lost 2 of our most dynamic players and are down to an 8 man rotation. We are still getting all the open looks we could ask for. The action is great. The execution just isn't.
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Lol. They shot all of last year and the start of this year.
You're going to tell me that you if you were the coach you would have cut the whole team after going 29-7 and started over?
We have the guys. The guys need to make the shots.
No one has improved over last year, which is hard to believe but true. The freshman aren’t ready to play this year and we ignored the portal.
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I just can’t comprehend how omax is the difference between a two seed and this: this team looks straight up bad. Like multiple guys regressed. The three point shooting is ridiculous beyond parody. One of the worst in the country. for the first team this year I’m really questioning if this team is good… seems like a bubble tourney team wtf
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They are passing up open 3’s in rhythm - at this point nobody even looks like they WANT to take a 3.
If they don’t pull this out the regular season is just purgatory.
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GE - I would not have cut the whole team … but I sure as hell would have used the Portal ( like every other damn team in the country) … to replace OMAX and add an actual shooter!!
Instead… we have this ….
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0/11 from 3...yikes
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Stevie is the only player playing to his offensive potential and that potential isn’t enough to win games
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No one has improved over last year, which is hard to believe but true. The freshman aren’t ready to play this year and we ignored the portal.
Zaide is playing some tough minutes. I think arguably Oso and Stevie are playing better this yeat (as was Sean) - but everyone else I agree. Gold just brutal- if he can't hit the open three Shaka needs to give him the pole ax
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SJ has 10 turnovers, but 19 to 10 in rebounds, along with zero MU threes give them lead.
MU needs more from the bench, zero nothings from all. Norman had two fouls in thirty seconds and Gold is just a disaster on all ends of floor. Play that Lowery kid more.
Long way to go, maybe make some threes……Come on Gold, have to help out here with bench play.
im sure Gold is a nice guy, and much credit to him for going to school so far from home. But to this point, he’s just not very good. You can’t teach quickness and attitude.
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I’m feeling like last season, winning the BE and BE tourney, was fools gold. MU is playing like Shaka’s Texas teams.
Last year feels like an aberration for sure. I didn’t watch Shaka’s UT teams but this one is mediocre at best. 0fer from 3 exposes all of your weaknesses.
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I don't think we can fault Shaka AT ALL. Why would he think his 7th rated offense last year, that returned everybody but O-Max (an avearage offensive player), would see every guy get worse at shooting 3 pointers? Clearly guys are pressing and some confidence shaken - Shaka's job is to try to instill confidence and not strip it away. Which, if he all of a sudden shifts gears and tells guys to limit 3 point attempts - think that erodes player confidence even further. End of the day it is all mental at this point with regard to our shooting.
I don’t agree. The book has been written and copied how to attack and beat us. Izzo started it in March. Shaka did nothing to improve this team by adding guys and their offseason development has been an abject failure. Not only guys failing to improve but regressing big time.
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They are passing up open 3’s in rhythm - at this point nobody even looks like they WANT to take a 3.
If they don’t pull this out the regular season is just purgatory.
Unbearably frustrating '72.
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Where is nolonger to rub it in lol
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Rebound stat is irrelevant in a vacuum. It has a clear correlation with # of missed shots
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Ironic that the longest made basket in the first half was an Oso push shot from the free throw line.
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I do think we will play a better second half....and I do feel we will end up winning this game, as I just don't believe we will continue to be ice cold from 3.
I also feel Zaide needs to be playing pretty much max minutes on this current squad.
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No one has improved over last year, which is hard to believe but true. The freshman aren’t ready to play this year and we ignored the portal.
Shaka recruiting for a culture. I rather have him recruiting for players who can actually make a basket, not foul on threes and not throw basketballs in the stands.
Let’s see how second half goes. Just don’t like players hesitant on shooting now. Yikes.
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STJ 3-9 MU 0-11 away ?
NOVA 14-33 MU 7-23 home W
BUT 10-22 MU 5-31 home L
HALL 6-15 MU 10-28 away L
CR 12-32 MU 9-31 home W
Fyi
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Hallelujah
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Holy sh it!!!
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Where is nolonger to rub it in lol
C’mon man, let us have some moral victories without calling out the demons
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(https://usagif.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/hqgif/hallelujah-69-calm-guy-hallelujah.gif)
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No one has improved over last year, which is hard to believe but true. The freshman aren’t ready to play this year and we ignored the portal.
100%
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As others have said, other biggest issue is that while we cant shoot and dominate paint we some how never get to the line. Should be nearly impossible.
I do think TK gets the shaft on a lot of drives, he should shoot more. But no one else draws contact well at all. Always been a issue for Kam
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Got some momentum. Jop with a moronic 3 and gives them a easy bucket.
TK with a hit now. Nice
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Rebound stat is irrelevant in a vacuum. It has a clear correlation with # of missed shots
Yup. Just like last year this team was always going to give up some offensive boards. ANd when you add 10 missed threes and a team that as a result is trying to force all of its offensive action at the rim - well.
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Now we can’t get any stops.
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At johns gonna shoot 50% from three like every team we play
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Bcrap call on Oso. Jop should have had an and one on his drive
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Now we can’t get any stops.
Hit threes, then give up five straight layups to SJ. Can’t can’t lead below five. Nuts.
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Now we can’t get any stops.
Yep. Gotta be tougher.
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This team is indescribable on the road
Offense starts looking like last year. Cuts, drives, 3 swishes from deep. Cut it to 1
Forget how to play D. TO for a easy dunk. Blocked lay up.
Immediately back down 5 with SJU having the ball.
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Giving up 14 points in 4 minutes isn’t going to get it done.
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SJ will now shoot lights out in this half …
Watch
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This Luis kid is a load, but he's a 39% eFG guy this year and playing out of his mind.
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Zero FT's for MU. Gotta find a way to get some stops and take the lead.
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This Luis kid is a load…playing out of his mind.
There is always one…
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Jop standing around not getting a body on anyone
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Has there been an MU sub the entire 2nd half?
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Let’s see if we can get over the hump now.
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Thats a stretch.
Get stops. Keep up this offense.
TK needs to be in dog mode all half
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Let's go now!!!
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Nice response - gotta keep it going.
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12 FT's to 1 btw.
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12 FT's to 1 btw.
Yup, refs again. Good excuse.
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12 FT's to 1 btw.
We’re just not good at getting to the line, although I think there could have been a few calls on drives where there’s been body contact.
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Weve done this vs Bucky and SHU tho.
Cant just show life, have to end theirs.
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12 FT's to 1 btw.
We are not getting a kind whistle at the rim. Kolek is getting the Markus treatment.
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I honestly only remember one MU drive that I thought should have been given FTs
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12 FT's to 1 btw.
I think Kolek gets jobbed a couple times a game
But other than that we just dont get to the line.
If there is ever poor reffing on us, its defensively
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What a game from Stevie
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Weve done this vs Bucky and SHU tho.
Cant just show life, have to end theirs.
That looked like an NBA continuation.
Unlike SH and UW, we have gotten the lead. Hope we can extend it.
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Shaka going Herb Brooks in the game rather than after seems to be helping. Run them until they puke
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Maybe we want Soriano to play more minutes
THis ejifor guy is killing us
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Stay tough on D. Hope we don’t get tired. Drive and kick time for us. Let’s Go Marquette!
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Impressive comeback. Gotta gives this team credit for heart, guts, and toughness.
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I think Kolek gets jobbed a couple times a game
But other than that we just dont get to the line.
If there is ever poor reffing on us, its defensively
MU agressive on defense, gets turnovers but also fouls.
MU today fouling on offensive put backs and of course threes.
Not a ref issue, just a daily game excuse. MU getting in some foul trouble now, with no bench. Let’s go….
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Stay tough on D. Hope we don’t get tired. Drive and kick time for us. Let’s Go Marquette!
Just got to stay smart on offense and obviously make the open 3s when they come
But SJU does not have a punchers chance in stopping the TK/OSO two man game. Oso is too athletic for them and if over play him then TK has gotten to the rim a lot(missed em in first half tho)
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Jop riding the bench a lot this half
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MU agressive on defense, gets turnovers but also fouls.
MU today fouling on offensive put backs and of course threes.
Not a ref issue, just a daily game excuse. MU getting in some foul trouble now, with no bench. Let’s go….
I said if there is EVER a ref issue its on defense
I said absolutely nothing about us being screwed by the refs today. On even 1 call.
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I said if there is EVER a ref issue its on defense
I said absolutely nothing about us being screwed by the refs today. On even 1 call.
Didn’t imply you, you were on point. Muggs the one who kept bring up refs and fouls.
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Didn’t imply you, you were on point. Muggs the one who kept bring up refs and fouls.
Gotcha, thought the way you said it quoting me you took it as me blaming our fouls. All good.
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Didn't realize MU is a 1.5 underdog today
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This is a terrifying lineup.
Big 3 from Jop tho
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Gotta say having Jop and Gold on the floor at the same time doesn’t help the D. 👀
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Joppppppp!!!!!
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Big fan of this Lowery guy
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Kolek with a filthy dime but its Ben and not Oso
So of course Ben is barely ready and falls over. At least saved it to our team
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I promise not to make this another Spectrum Wisconsin bitch session but the Spectrum stream literally played a Spectrum business commercial during MU’s last defensive possession. I’ve never seen that and hope to never again
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Johnnie’s getting tired. Fouling instead of moving feet
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A tale of two halves eh?
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Seriously just keep running TK and Oso. They cant stop it
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Bring it home!!! Come on!!!
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This is more like it.
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Zaide!!!
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The last 4 minutes have been beautiful basketball.
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Didn’t imply you, you were on point. Muggs the one who kept bring up refs and fouls.
Ha… SJ with four fouls in two minutes. Must have heard Muggs.
More Lowery please. Makes a dunk on offensive rebound, causes turnover on next, them makes a three. Huge plays, just huge.
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We look like ourselves, finally.
Of course, shooting 70% helps with that.
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Hoping Lowery has a Chase like second half. That would be huge. He's looking more comfortable.
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WOW
Guess the law of averages I mentioned came instantly.
Big shot Zaide.
TK and Oso have been incredible.
Finish it. SJU is forcing shots have to rebound. Had one on the SOriano miss where we fought each other for it and gave them a second miss.
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Hoping Lowery has a Chase like second half. That would be huge. He's looking more comfortable.
not to change the subject, but any idea when Chase might be back?
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I do think we will play a better second half....and I do feel we will end up winning this game, as I just don't believe we will continue to be ice cold from 3.
I also feel Zaide needs to be playing pretty much max minutes on this current squad.
Good calls! Big plays by Zaide. I certainly didn’t expect a 180 turnaround like this. But happy to see it.
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Like this kid Lowery. Give Golds minutes to Lowery.
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not to change the subject, but any idea when Chase might be back?
Maybe I’m wrong but it looked like he wasn’t wearing the sling today.
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Maybe I’m wrong but it looked like he wasn’t wearing the sling today.
I only saw 1 quick view, but thought the same.
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Would be cool if 3 seconds was still a thing
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Close this one out!
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Bad sub to take Zaide out..
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Would be cool if 3 seconds was still a thing
Yes. WTF??
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Fore arm shivers are apparently legal off the ball
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I LOVE the way that Shaka has clearly made a priority to draw up action for Jop catch and shoots this half. Kind of thought there should have been more of that to start the year, but with the injuries and shooting issues, it becomes an absolute must.
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Does Soriano ever leave the lane?
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Soriano absolutely should have been called for a o foul on that screen.
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That TK forced shot was like the first stupid thing weve done in about 10 min.
Close this out.
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How was that not a foul when Oso was dribbling up the court?
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Now here is the run.
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How was that not a foul when Oso was dribbling up the court?
It was.
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Bad sub to take Zaide out..
agreed. Shaka sub patterns are at times odd
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Have to refocus. Guard the fking ball.
We also are getting thumped at the FT line.
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Yes. WTF??
Yall don't understand the 3 second rule ::)
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Come on, guys.
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WHAT THE FU CK Kam
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WTF was that???
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Slop
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3 TOs in a row. Not ideal.
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Need to hang on here. St John’s pressure picking up.
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3 straight TOs now. Come on
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Ugh
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Good grief - getting sloppy.
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Terrible execution.
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Seems too early to run clock. Not MU’s DNA. Scoring comes in natural flow. Don’t choke.
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Kam passing up a layup to toss it into the second row was somethin
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Our guys are gassed...Kolek particularly and rightfully so.
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Kam with a boneheaded play. Now choking at crunch time. Not getting any help from refs
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3 straight TOs now. Come on
Dcking around with the ball too much. Get Oso the rock inside at bit.
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Bad sub to take Zaide out..
Yes. Remember that. Brought back Jones to have all starters back
Up 13 with six to go.
MU getting blasted on boards now and stupid couple of turnovers. Kolek and Jones very bad ones. I mean bad. And Joplin steps out of bounds.
CANT MAKE THIS UP. Just handing them points and possessions. 13 point lead a few minutes ago.
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Kolek and Oso. Thats all you have to run.
No need for Kam dribbling in traffic. Or stevie fumbling off his knee kciking it to Jop who isnt even standing in bounds.
Kolek/Oso. They cannot stop it.
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Kam with a boneheaded play. Now choking at crunch time. Not getting any help from refs
Ya think??? Driving me up the freaking wall. 3 Free Thows????
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Kam with a boneheaded play. Now choking at crunch time. Not getting any help from refs
There is no way St. John’s has only committed 5 fouls.
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Our guys are gassed...Kolek particularly and rightfully so.
Shaka seemed to take the approach to have the starters play out of the funk in this half alone. Hopefully, they have enough left to finish
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Yes. Remember that. Brought back Jones to have all starters back
Up 13 with six to go.
MU getting blasted on boards now and stupid couple of turnovers. Kolek and Jones very bad ones. I mean bad. And Joplin steps out of bounds.
CANT MAKE THIS UP. Just handing them points and possessions. 13 point lead a few minutes ago.
to be fair. Kam came in as they were at the line to make it 8. We quickly got it to 13.
We just started being dumb as a team since then. Even if some was on Kam too.
It didnt immediately shift swapping Kam for Zaide.
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Yes. Remember that. Brought back Jones to have all starters back
Up 13 with six to go.
MU getting blasted on boards now and stupid couple of turnovers. Kolek and Jones very bad ones. I mean bad. And Joplin steps out of bounds.
CANT MAKE THIS UP. Just handing them points and possessions. 13 point lead a few minutes ago.
I'm a big Kam fan, but didn't like that sub. Zaide's physicality bodes well for this game and was rolling. Jop was rolling too so had to keep him in, as were Oso, Stevie and Tyler.
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to be fair. Kam came in as they were at the line to make it 8. We quickly got it to 13.
We just started being dumb as a team since then. Even if some was on Kam too.
It didnt immediately shift swapping Kam for Zaide.
Agreed.
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Kam must get that ball there.
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When did SJ get some yellow in their uniforms
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The shift was more so that dumb TK shot I mentioned
Up 11 after SJU first made basket in a while
He forced a off balance back board shot. SJU got a run out and was fouled due to it. 2 freebies at the line cut it to 9. THen 3 TOs by us since then
Obviously TK has been great. But that was the momentum move not when Kam came in for Zaide.
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I'm a big Kam fan, but didn't like that sub. Zaide's physicality bodes well for this game and was rolling. Jop was rolling too so had to keep him in, as were Oso, Stevie and Tyler.
yes
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That did not just happen
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Absolutely nothing you can do about that. Unreal
TK attacking and drawing fouls
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That didn’t either
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Wow
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WTF
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They’re choking
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You have gotta be crapting me??
Inexcusable.
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Mitchell falling asleep defensively. Cant guard Jenkins
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This is insane. Close out a damn road game for the love of god.
SJU chucking air balls right to their own guy and making shot clock buzzer beaters.
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Today, boys & girls, we’ll watch a how-to blow-a-13pt-lead-in-3-minutes video
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The basketball gods can go piss off if they are going to do this now
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Who’s going to step up on this possession?
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They look gassed.
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They had to keep playing, not shut it down.
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The shift was more so that dumb TK shot I mentioned
Up 11 after SJU first made basket in a while
He forced a off balance back board shot. SJU got a run out and was fouled due to it. 2 freebies at the line cut it to 9. THen 3 TOs by us since then
Obviously TK has been great. But that was the momentum move not when Kam came in for Zaide.
Wrong per usual
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what a TO set there shaka
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Wtaf are we doing. Why did we go away from TK Oso pick and roll??
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Awful possession
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Absurd possession. This is worrisome.
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Hey guys, get a mfing rebound
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Wow, no box out
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Wrong per usual
You prove daily that you cant fix stupid and obssessive. Zaides fam might need a restraining order soon
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Great play design by Shaka out of that time out
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Oso disappeared on that defensive stand
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Get a fking rebound!!
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I hate when this happens
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This is nuts
We just abandoned what was working. Shaka didnt even draw it up out of TO.
Give up 2 o rebounds then foul
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No field goal in five minutes. Two free throws. Crazy bad.
But MU milking clock killing them. Shaka, why? Milking the clock, why?
Offensive rebounds, oh my….
Gonna be hack an Oso time.?
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Get a freaking rebound instead of standing around.
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This is bizzaro world
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Of course Jop chokes
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Shaka Smart is just a flat-out bad coach
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FT matta.
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If we win this one, take it and run real fast
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I woulda bet thousands that was dropping
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Make your FTs.
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Foul up 3?
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Great work guys
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Please God scratch out a win.
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Massive choking at the line.
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Can’t make this up lol
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4 straight missed FT’s?
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I just…
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Just unreal.
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Foul up 3?
Jinx
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are you kidding me?????????//
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Total choke job going on here. Sad
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0-4 free throws down the stretch. 😳
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Don’t foul on the three shot
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I am fking dying! Sweet Jesus!!!
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This is fu cking mental
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Muggs got his fouls called.
Kolek missed two and Joplin misses front end. Kolek misses front end.
CANT MAKE THIS UP.
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0-4 free throws down the stretch. 😳
Inexcusable. Totally Inexcusable.
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Please do not foul!
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Yeah, this is a national championship contending team!
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How did they put more time on?
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why does he have Gold in the game for this possession??
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Gold as a defensive sub?
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Yeah, this is a national championship contending team!
Here he is!!! Harder than ever!
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Did Soriano not touch it before it bounced?
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Don’t like Gold out there.
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Oh god, he put in Gold for defense. Hope I am wrong here.
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Did Soriano not touch it before it bounced?
I absolutely thought he did.
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Did Soriano not touch it before it bounced?
Yes..but we are in NYC
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INCONSISTENT!!
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Kolek was on the line at 4.3. How could it now be 4.3
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Longest time out ever?
Do not foul.
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MU did not deserve to win this game.
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Take this win. Run away. Figure yourselves out.
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Lucky 😬
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JFC - phew.
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Never a doubt!!
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MU did not deserve to win this game.
Of course they did.
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Sweet baby Jesus. Also to nolonger, go fuuck yourself with a rusty ice pick
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Road win. Thats all that it goes in the books as
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FTs almost mattered today.
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Of course they did.
Sure.
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I thought MU was going to win a game they didn’t deserve to win, then they didn’t, then they did
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Phew. Very fortunate. Glad we got the W but wish they really would’ve slammed the door when they could’ve. Big win tho
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I’ll take it. ⚡️
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Joplin was very very bad today. His first half offense was poor. And he was the guy getting beat every possession in the second half.
But, take that 1 point win any day of year.
Stevie played great.
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wow....now lets beat DePaul by 50
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Sure.
They overcame a cold start. Build a nice lead. And held on. Not sure why they don’t “deserve” it.
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Thank you Jesus!!
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MU did not deserve to win this game.
Nonsense comment.
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What is with not putting a guy on the inbounder after the time out? We obviously did not stop the throw in, or a great pass or a great shot with the strategy used. Whew
Glad we won
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Joplin was very very bad today. His first half offense was poor. And he was the guy getting beat every possession in the second half.
But, take that 1 point win any day of year.
Stevie played great.
Great is an overstatement. He plays decent D but lost his man late and fouled so great is hyberbole.
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What is with not putting a guy on the inbounder after the time out? We obviously did not stop the throw in, or a great pass or a great shot with the strategy used. Whew
Glad we won
That was a great shot? It was well defended.
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That was a great shot? It was well defended.
That was as clean a shot as they could get with 4.3. Yeah Ben was there and that made a diff but wow. Just happy we won.
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Great is an overstatement. He plays decent D but lost his man late and fouled so great is hyberbole.
The starters were gassed at the end which may have contributed to Stevie’s lapses.
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Whew …. HOLY $hit
Wow. Played great for 15 mins … then
Zip! Missing FTs is baddddddd ….
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Great is an overstatement. He plays decent D but lost his man late and fouled so great is hyberbole.
Stevie did play a great game today, but you are right he did lose Jenkins on the put back follow when a pretty simple box out would have nullified that basket. But, that aside I think Stevie gets stud of this game
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We beat a Rick Pitino coached team today on the road . Great effort .
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Great is an overstatement. He plays decent D but lost his man late and fouled so great is hyberbole.
He lost his man at least 5-6 times in the second half alone.
He plays decent defense compared to how he used to.
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He lost his man at least 5-6 times in the second half alone.
He plays decent defense compared to how he used to.
Yes, this is true about Jop. But at least he hit some clutch 3's to offset the defensive lapses.
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I have to think the lack of depth really hurt MU today. That last 7 minutes after the 13 point lead was as ugly as it gets. Not much but turnovers, leaky defense, and missed FTs.
Fatigue might have been a factor.
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This is bar none atrocious. Mitchell cannot shoot either. What a pile of dung.
Lol
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joplin is a terrible post up player. This team stinks. sayonara on another season
Lol
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Witless wilhemina keeping his hot take streak alive.
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I give this game thread 4 🫏 out of 5
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I give this game thread 4 🫏 out of 5
Agreed.
Frustrating game again but a lot of great comedy in this thread.
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Always great comedy in the game thread.
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So entertaining reading posts from our resident 2 year old on Scoop! A solid 50 (stupid/obsessive) post day for PGsHeroes32 in the game thread today. Such little emotional fortitude. And absolutely rich/ironic commentary.
You prove daily that you cant fix stupid and obssessive. Zaides fam might need a restraining order soon
This is fu cking mental
This is nuts
We just abandoned what was working. Shaka didnt even draw it up out of TO.
Give up 2 o rebounds then foul
This is insane. Close out a damn road game for the love of god.
SJU chucking air balls right to their own guy and making shot clock buzzer beaters.
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The starters were gassed at the end which may have contributed to Stevie’s lapses.
Exactly. This is why starters can't play the entire game like people suggested.
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This was fun, thank you for all the entertainment 👏 👏
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I don’t recall a season where there has been such a remarkable change in a team from one part of the season to another. I think the thoughts of MU being a better team are clouded by having the knowledge of how this team can play. It really isn’t that team any more. I hope at some point the team that started the season returns but no, at this point, MU is not a better team
The season the letter was written comes to mind
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Newsie
The game threads get more bizarre every game. Many make as much sense as my wife walking away from the TV because “she brings them bad luck”. Her idiotic take might even be more insightful than some on here.
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Your wife’s walking away is completely rational, I’ve been known to do the same. To this day I won’t stand towards the end unless we are really out of danger, because once years ago I did and we blew the game….
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Newsie
The game threads get more bizarre every game. Many make as much sense as my wife walking away from the TV because “she brings them bad luck”. Her idiotic take might even be more insightful than some on here.
She may be right. I have to step up and take responsibility for the close call, because I forgot to wear my lucky game day socks.
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Newsie
The game threads get more bizarre every game. Many make as much sense as my wife walking away from the TV because “she brings them bad luck”. Her idiotic take might even be more insightful than some on here.
Stay away from them during the game. Go back and read them for the comedy after wins. Non stop hilarity.
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Newsie
The game threads get more bizarre every game. Many make as much sense as my wife walking away from the TV because “she brings them bad luck”. Her idiotic take might even be more insightful than some on here.
Sorry to see you calling wife idiotic, my wife and daughter (when home for Christmas) walk away as I start screaming at TV ;D
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My wife....'wait a minute. Marquette just went an entire half without making a 3 or a free throw and is still in the game? Wow.'
One of many reasons I love her.
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My wife....'wait a minute. Marquette just went an entire half without making a 3 or a free throw and is still in the game? Wow.'
One of many reasons I love her.
My wife & daughter hate sports. Wife only goes to MKE to games with me because she says is not leaving me alone drunk with my friends, all Scoopers. She totally can't handle the MKE cold ;D
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Newsie
My wife has been a very good MU for the 39 years we have been together but is struggling this season. She thinks “if they are that good, why do they miss every shot?” or “why can’t they go on 15-0 runs all of the time if they are that good?”.
She falls into the camp that thought MU would roll every game this season. That camp is bigger than I thought and sorry they are disappointed.
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Newsie
My wife has been a very good MU for the 39 years we have been together but is struggling this season. She thinks “if they are that good, why do they miss every shot?” or “why can’t they go on 15-0 runs all of the time if they are that good?”.
She falls into the camp that thought MU would roll every game this season. That camp is bigger than I thought and sorry they are disappointed.
Goose is lost again, 🤗
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Sorry to see you calling wife idiotic, my wife and daughter (when home for Christmas) walk away as I start screaming at TV ;D
I've tried to control myself better this year. Our cat Casey went running out of the room several times last year, but this year sometimes he sits in my lap and watches the game.
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Newsie
The game threads get more bizarre every game. Many make as much sense as my wife walking away from the TV because “she brings them bad luck”. Her idiotic take might even be more insightful than some on here.
Goose I am with her There have been games where I turn off the TV so they can get back in the game . Can't stay away for long, though
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Best way to watch is getting high before tip and enjoying some delicious Meister Braü
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Best way to watch is getting high before tip and enjoying some delicious Meister Braü
Unk I get high and totally drunk out of my mind. Best way to watch games, getting even more wasted for GB game.
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My wife is like Ms. Newsdreams: She hates sports. She knows I love our Warriors but after moving to Florida has vowed she will never set foot in the Midwest after Christmas ever again.
She has become a closet Warrior fan though and won’t admit it but comes in and watches our games with me.
My Christmas present: Two home games!
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Is your cat Mr. Bigglesworth?
Mwahahahahaha
Mwahahahahaha
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This is bar none atrocious. Mitchell cannot shoot either. What a pile of dung.
No credibility
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Receipts