2022-23 NBA Thread

[21Jumpstreet]

Just turned it on, nice little push by the Heat and a JFB and 1. Stay aggressive, this would be a massive win.

[forgetful]

True, that was awful. But Jokic’s 4th foul was just a stupid decision by such a smart player.

I know it was early, but they should have challenged his 2nd foul. Didn't even remotely touch Lowry, actually stepped out of the way so he wouldn't foul.

[MuggsyB]

Just turned it on, nice little push by the Heat and a JFB and 1. Stay aggressive, this would be a massive win.

Good timing.  Can they pull this off??

[withoutbias]

So was Spo intentionally tanking or an idiot? I mean if it's not even debatable

“I was provided the facts and there’s absolutely no argument to be made, so I’ll ask a dumb question instead.”

So Bellichick was intentionally tanking or an idiot.

The results speak for themselves. It’s clear as day.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

“I was provided the facts and there’s absolutely no argument to be made, so I’ll ask a dumb question instead.”

So Bellichick was intentionally tanking or an idiot.

The results speak for themselves. It’s clear as day.

Lol. You initially said “Gabe Vincent is just a straight up better basketball player than Tyler Herro,” and now you’re switching the take.

Because, once again, Vincent is having a terrible game.

But sure. Keep going…

[wadesworld]

Bruce Brown just attacking Duncan Robinson.

[MuggsyB]

Bruce Brown just attacking Duncan Robinson.

Brown has been excellent. Not a good performance from Miami.  Extremely disappointing. 

[21Jumpstreet]

Good timing.  Can they pull this off??

Nope. Ovah.

[MuggsyB]

Did Brooklyn trade Brown or choose not to re-sign him?

[PGsHeroes32]

Ever since WithoutBias dropped his usual moronic comment and disguised it as fact.

Heat have lost two at home.

Vincent has went 3/16 1/10 from 3 with 9 total pts, 1 assist and ZERO rebounds. On a -37.

Haha.

[MU82]

Impressive.

[forgetful]

Thought Miami was going to get this one. They got about as friendly a whistle as they could have hoped for. The Nuggets just have too many horses.

[MuggsyB]

Thought Miami was going to get this one. They got about as friendly a whistle as they could have hoped for. The Nuggets just have too many horses.

Too much size but Miami played very poorly on their home floor.  Denver's D was quite good but the Heat were pretty much a disaster. 

[forgetful]

The Nuggets kind of have an ideal team build right now.

Two big time stars, where one of them does not really require big-time scoring to completely dominate the game. It give Murray the opportunity to play his game. Then they have assembled a great cast of players that know their role and play with very high energy.

Too many of the other teams with a Big Two, have their stars clash, where both really need to be dominating the ball and scoring to impact the game.

Jokic is really a unique and special star.

[MuggsyB]

The Nuggets kind of have an ideal team build right now.

Two big time stars, where one of them does not really require big-time scoring to completely dominate the game. It give Murray the opportunity to play his game. Then they have assembled a great cast of players that know their role and play with very high energy.

Too many of the other teams with a Big Two, have their stars clash, where both really need to be dominating the ball and scoring to impact the game.

Jokic is really a unique and special star.

Murray having 12 assists and ZERO turns is pretty damn impressive.

[withoutbias]

Maybe it was Olidipo getting injured that spurred their success, or a butterfly flapping its wings in St. Petersburg.

Your argument atet "it is very clear" has no merit. The better explanation is that they are a very good team period, and their struggles this year were largely due to them having the most missed games due to injury in the entire NBA, and that towards the end of the season, they were able to finally start getting rotations that worked and brought them success.

Add in, that they are a strong defensive and 3-pt shooting team. Those two aspects are what win in the playoffs.

Herro is the better player period. I can't believe that this is still an ongoing discussion.

Well they’re still down a starter and a 26 mpg, double digit scorer. And they were actually one of the worst (maybe the very worst?) 3 point shooting teams in the NBA this year, and Herro was their best 3 point shooter of rotational players. They just happen to have the right players injured now. It’s amazing what happens to your shooting when the ball actually moves.

Lol. You initially said “Gabe Vincent is just a straight up better basketball player than Tyler Herro,” and now you’re switching the take.

Because, once again, Vincent is having a terrible game.

But sure. Keep going…

I’d take Gabe Vincent 7 days a week if I was a team with aspirations of winning in the Playoffs. But you’re right. Tyler Herro would never have 2 bad games in a row! He’s a mega star!

Ever since WithoutBias dropped his usual moronic comment and disguised it as fact.

Heat have lost two at home.

Vincent has went 3/16 1/10 from 3 with 9 total pts, 1 assist and ZERO rebounds. On a -37.

Haha.

Oh no! Not two bad games! They lost two games in a row to the best team in the NBA! To drop their winning percentage against the 3 best teams in the NBA plus the Knicks to .591? After having a .535 winning percentage against all teams in the NBA?

Go back to crying about KAT and the TWolves constantly and then claim not to be a TWolves fan. Or cry about Twins management and FO some more. It’s super interesting and everyone really cares about it on a Wisconsin based sports forum. You’re super good at it and entertaining. Clown.

[MU82]

The Nuggets are doing this even though Porter clearly has been kidnapped by Martians.

[PGsHeroes32]

Well they’re still down a starter and a 26 mpg, double digit scorer. And they were actually one of the worst (maybe the very worst?) 3 point shooting teams in the NBA this year, and Herro was their best 3 point shooter of rotational players. They just happen to have the right players injured now. It’s amazing what happens to your shooting when the ball actually moves.

I’d take Gabe Vincent 7 days a week if I was a team with aspirations of winning in the Playoffs. But you’re right. Tyler Herro would never have 2 bad games in a row! He’s a mega star!

Oh no! Not two bad games! They lost two games in a row to the best team in the NBA! To drop their winning percentage against the 3 best teams in the NBA plus the Knicks to .591? After having a .535 winning percentage against all teams in the NBA?

Go back to crying about KAT and the TWolves constantly and then claim not to be a TWolves fan. Or cry about Twins management and FO some more. It’s super interesting and everyone really cares about it on a Wisconsin based sports forum. You’re super good at it and entertaining. Clown.

Haha your go to anytime someone makes you look like an idiot(always) is to have an irrelevent to the conversation meltdown

You dont know sports, its ok. Not everyone can. Makes it fun to have people like you around.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

“I was provided the facts and there’s absolutely no argument to be made, so I’ll ask a dumb question instead.”

So Bellichick was intentionally tanking or an idiot.

The results speak for themselves. It’s clear as day.

"I was provided all the facts and there's no argument to be made, so I'll go back to a dumb comparison that's already been addressed".

The problem with the results is that you have decided that there is only one variable and it is responsible for 100% of the results. And the funny thing is, even if it were true, that wouldn't be Herro issue. That would be a coaching issue.

You keep insisting that a guy Spo played "a bright blinking target to attack defensively and a ball stopping, high volume scorer on offense" that was hurting the team for 35 minutes a game for 67 games. I'm just confused how a hall of fame coach couldn't figure that out with 67 games of evidence and even more practice hours when it is so obvious and not even debatable.

[withoutbias]

"I was provided all the facts and there's no argument to be made, so I'll go back to a dumb comparison that's already been addressed".

The problem with the results is that you have decided that there is only one variable and it is responsible for 100% of the results. And the funny thing is, even if it were true, that wouldn't be Herro issue. That would be a coaching issue.

You keep insisting that a guy Spo played "a bright blinking target to attack defensively and a ball stopping, high volume scorer on offense" that was hurting the team for 35 minutes a game for 67 games. I'm just confused how a hall of fame coach couldn't figure that out with 67 games of evidence and even more practice hours when it is so obvious and not even debatable.

Why couldn’t Bill figure out Tom was better than Drew in 2000? Bellichick just an idiot.

You really believe every good coach ever has always played their best players every game and never missed on who they were playing?

Fair enough. That’s simply absurd and if you want to close your eyes to what has happened feel free.

Haha your go to anytime someone makes you look like an idiot(always) is to have an irrelevent to the conversation meltdown

You dont know sports, its ok. Not everyone can. Makes it fun to have people like you around.

The lack of self awareness is beyond incredible here.

[PGsHeroes32]

Why couldn’t Bill figure out Tom was better than Drew in 2000? Bellichick just an idiot.

You really believe every good coach ever has always played their best players every game and never missed on who they were playing?

Fair enough. That’s simply absurd and if you want to close your eyes to what has happened feel free.

The lack of self awareness is beyond incredible here.

Yes we all know. Its obvious and not debatable.

But maybe one day youll gain it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why couldn’t Bill figure out Tom was better than Drew in 2000? Bellichick just an idiot.

In 2000? How do you know Tom was better than Drew that year?

You really believe every good coach ever has always played their best players every game and never missed on who they were playing?

No. I do believe every hall of fame coach who has had an entire season of actual games plus practices has either gotten it right or the two players were close enough that it was at least debatable.

You don't seem to understand that I don't actually take issue with the idea that the Heat are better with Vincent playing more minutes than Herro. I don't agree but I think it's a perfectly reasonable position to take. It's the instance that this is opinion is a fact that isn't debatable and the heavy use of logical fallacies to defend this position.

[lawdog77]

In 2000? How do you know Tom was better than Drew that year?

No. I do believe every hall of fame coach who has had an entire season of actual games plus practices has either gotten it right or the two players were close enough that it was at least debatable.

You don't seem to understand that I don't actually take issue with the idea that the Heat are better with Vincent playing more minutes than Herro. I don't agree but I think it's a perfectly reasonable position to take. It's the instance that this is opinion is a fact that isn't debatable and the heavy use of logical fallacies to defend this position.

It's as if Tyler and Jimmy Eiffel Towered his grandmother.

[Uncle Rico]

Tough night for Tyler Junior College

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I’d take Gabe Vincent 7 days a week if I was a team with aspirations of winning in the Playoffs. But you’re right. Tyler Herro would never have 2 bad games in a row!t He’s a mega star!

LOL.  I's not two bad games. Its an entire season of not being as good as Herro.  Frankly its FOUR entire seasons of not being as good. And this is where your ridiculous Patriots comparison falls apart.  Brady replaced a former All Pro quarter back in game two of his second season.  Vincent and Herro have been teammates for FOUR YEARS. This idea that Spo had this player sitting next to him for FOUR seasons and didn't play him more at the expense of Herro is just an astounding assertion. His VORP over is career is -1.1!

I mean, he wasn't even on the floor during the fourth quarter last night.  And here's the thing - I don't even think Herro is as good as his future contract. The Heat could of course upgrade that position.  But Gabe-f*cking-Vincent!?!?!?!?!

It's just an awful take that you have now quintupled down on.