2022-23 NBA Thread

[Lennys Tap]

Wilt was amazing.  A physical freak.   Bigger, stronger, faster than his opponents.  There simply were not mobile 7 footers in the sixties.   Russell was his toughest opponent, Russell was 6'9.
Elgin Baylor and Oscar Robertson were amazing for their era, two amazingly successful big guards who dominated their opponents physically.   They were both in the 6'5, 220lb neighborhood.

Wilt was a freak for his era.

Agree but for one nit- Elgin Baylor played forward, not guard.

[MuggsyB]

I agree with your comments about Wilt. One of the greatest athletes ever. Two reasons why he isn’t in my top 6.

1. He was playing against vastly inferior athletes on a regular basis.

2. The lane was 4 feet narrower than it is now. A lot easier to get at the hoop for his finger rolls ( his favorite shot) and dunks.

Are you under the impression that Wilt and the players of the 60's wouldn't have trained differently today?  Were Baylor, West, and Robertson not great athletes?  Were Dr. J and David Thompson decent athletes?   It's hard for me to see Shaq and Duncan ahead of Mr. Chamberlain.   I assume you think the athletes in all sports are better today?  Should we discount Babe Ruth and Jim Brown?

[MuggsyB]

My all power NBA 5 is:

Wilt
Shaq
Moses
Maurice Lucas
Wes Unseld

Meaning guys you don't fk with. 

[MuggsyB]

Terrible call in the NY/Miami game with that 4pt play by the Knicks.  That can't happen after a review. 

[PGsHeroes32]

That 4 pt play call was criminal and really swung the momentum.

[PGsHeroes32]

That ball on the shot clock also blatantly hit the rim.

Knicks got every call the final 6 mins. League called and said they need some length to the series.

[MuggsyB]

That 4 pt play call was criminal and really swung the momentum.

Did you hear Monty McCutcheon's explanation of that call?  Is this professional basketball or Kindergarten?  The guy completely fell down before Brunson was in his shooting motion.  Crazy call imo. 

[PGsHeroes32]

Did you hear Monty McCutcheon's explanation of that call?  Is this professional basketball or Kindergarten?  The guy completely fell down before Brunson was in his shooting motion.  Crazy call imo.

Bad call of a rule that is already insane.

Honestly the missed shot clock violation might have been worse. That was unbelievable.

And the play where Randle elbowed lowry in the head and foul was on Lowry was a choice as well.

[MuggsyB]

Bad call of a rule that is already insane.

Honestly the missed shot clock violation might have been worse. That was unbelievable.

And the play where Randle elbowed lowry in the head and foul was on Lowry was a choice as well.

True.  Not a good night for the zebras. 

[forgetful]

True.  Not a good night for the zebras.

You think they will call illegal defense against the Lakers at all? Blatantly obvious defensive 3-seconds on probably a dozen plays already.

[Herman Cain]

Are you under the impression that Wilt and the players of the 60's wouldn't have trained differently today?  Were Baylor, West, and Robertson not great athletes?  Were Dr. J and David Thompson decent athletes?   It's hard for me to see Shaq and Duncan ahead of Mr. Chamberlain.   I assume you think the athletes in all sports are better today?  Should we discount Babe Ruth and Jim Brown?

Jerry West was as athletic as any player today. He had a 40 inch vert , very long arms. Incredible all around  talent . That is why his image is on the NBA logo.

The Big O similarly was a well built 6-5 220 pound triple double machine .

[MuggsyB]

You think they will call illegal defense against the Lakers at all? Blatantly obvious defensive 3-seconds on probably a dozen plays already.

Ya... I was kind of wondering about that.  I didn't think you can camp two guys in the lane. 

[forgetful]

Lakers 17 FTs, GSW 0 FTs.

[MuggsyB]

Nm.

[MuggsyB]

Lakers 17 FTs, GSW 0 FTs.

Not a good half for GS but you don't see that stat too often. 

[Jockey]

Are you under the impression that Wilt and the players of the 60's wouldn't have trained differently today?  Were Baylor, West, and Robertson not great athletes?  Were Dr. J and David Thompson decent athletes?   It's hard for me to see Shaq and Duncan ahead of Mr. Chamberlain.   I assume you think the athletes in all sports are better today?  Should we discount Babe Ruth and Jim Brown?

Not what I said at all.

[MuggsyB]

Green is honestly an assclown. 

[MuggsyB]

Regardless of the FT disparity the Lakers are outplaying GS tonight.  Although I am still confused how they aren't getting called for defensive 3 secs.   The big problem for GS is they have no answer for Davis when he's in the paint nor can they get easy hoops on the offensive end. 

[forgetful]

Can someone explain to me how the Lakers were granted a timeout there. It was a clear tie-up jump ball.

[PGsHeroes32]

Can someone explain to me how the Lakers were granted a timeout there. It was a clear tie-up jump ball.

That was bad.

But also after the great comeback the Warriors went to some mental offense.

Also LOL at Minny trading away Vando as one of the 47 players for Gobert. Rudy aint chasing Curry around the court and locking him up on the perimeter.

[MU82]

Can someone explain to me how the Lakers were granted a timeout there. It was a clear tie-up jump ball.

Because LeBron is the best player ever, as well as being the best human being ever to walk the face of the earth.

[MuggsyB]

Green being on the floor for 35 mins was too much tonight.  They're literally not guarding the guy at all.

[forgetful]

Green being on the floor for 35 mins was too much tonight.  They're literally not guarding the guy at all.

I agree. Might have to go to a lineup with Wiggins at the 4.

Make Lebron guard have to guard Wiggins.

[MuggsyB]

I agree. Might have to go to a lineup with Wiggins at the 4.

Make Lebron guard have to guard Wiggins.

That tech was also a critical mistake and totally unnecessary.  The guy is good pushing the ball up the floor but he essentially doesn't even look at the basket unless he gets a wide open chippie.

[PGsHeroes32]

That tech was also a critical mistake and totally unnecessary.  The guy is good pushing the ball up the floor but he essentially doesn't even look at the basket unless he gets a wide open chippie.

He tried to drive late in the game and completely biffed the lay up haha