2022-23 NBA Thread

[rocket surgeon]

celtics loss puts bucks magic number at 5. 

[Jockey]

Just an addendum to the Willis Reed discussion:

I saw a bit in the news about the tornadoes in Mississippi and they had a discussion with Spencer Haywood - a guy I hadn’t thought about in a long time.

He was also a guy I would rate at least as high as Willis although in the NBA, he played both center and PF. I remembered him from back in the day when he played at Detroit in college who played the Warriors every year. He quit college after one year (averaged 30+ pts and 20+ rebounds), averaged about the same in the ABA and then became an all-star in the NBA before becoming a HoFer.

[forgetful]

Kyrie had no chemistry in Boston, no chemistry in Brooklyn, and now no chemistry in Dallas. All after he wanted out of Cleveland.

I wonder who is to blame. I think it’s a dead heat between Kyrie and whoever made the deal.

I don't think this is a fair take. As others have noted, players really like Kyrie, and want to play with him. The problem is he is a player that needs the ball in his hands. So is Durant, so is Doncic, those types of players don't play well together, because when the ball leaves their hands it takes them out of their game.

The Heat had the same problem their first year with their big 3, then Wade was willing to sacrifice his game and take on a different role and they were hard to beat.

Not many elite ball-fist players are willing to adjust their game, defer, and sacrifice. It is one of the impressive things about teams like the GSW, and Curry, who plays great on and off the ball and whose players take on what role is needed.

[MU82]

Just an addendum to the Willis Reed discussion:

I saw a bit in the news about the tornadoes in Mississippi and they had a discussion with Spencer Haywood - a guy I hadn’t thought about in a long time.

He was also a guy I would rate at least as high as Willis although in the NBA, he played both center and PF. I remembered him from back in the day when he played at Detroit in college who played the Warriors every year. He quit college after one year (averaged 30+ pts and 20+ rebounds), averaged about the same in the ABA and then became an all-star in the NBA before becoming a HoFer.

I always liked Haywood, who was incredibly talented and productive. But in addition to having some very nice stats, Reed was a 2-time NBA Finals MVP and captain of the only 2 Knicks championship teams. While I won't dock Haywood for being on lesser teams, success on the biggest stage does matter IMHO.

I remember when the Knicks got Haywood in 1975, shortly after Reed retired. He was only 26 years old and already a multiple all-star. But his 3 seasons in NY were a bit of a disappointment; playing in what should have been the prime of his career, he averaged only 17.1 ppg and 8.6 rpg -- significantly below what he had done earlier in his career and also below what Reed averaged during his prime.

I also think Haywood was considered more of a forward than center, so all of this is a bit of apples/oranges.

I admit that, as a Knicks fan back then, that probably affects my viewpoint. Reed got "us" a title; Haywood got us bupkis!

[Jockey]

It's a fun discussion to have.

[wadesworld]

Jrue has 45/7/6 in 26 minutes so far tonight…

[Uncle Rico]

Jrue has 45/7/6 in 26 minutes so far tonight…

Trade his azz

[4everwarriors]

Those who know ball say, "peddle his ass," hey?

[MuggsyB]

Jrue has 45/7/6 in 26 minutes so far tonight…

Any defense being played in this game?

[wadesworld]

Bucks have put a couple defenders in body bags in the last couple minutes.

Also, if that was reversed and Grayson did that to Nwora people would be calling for him to be kicked out of basketball for forever.

[MuggsyB]

Bucks have put a couple defenders in body bags in the last couple minutes.

Also, if that was reversed and Grayson did that to Nwora people would be calling for him to be kicked out of basketball for forever.

What happened?  I see Giannis has a decent stat line.

[wadesworld]

What happened?  I see Giannis has a decent stat line.

Giannis posterized Smith, then Nwora decked Grayson while Grayson was airborn posterizing him, sending him hard to the ground.

[MuggsyB]

Giannis posterized Smith, then Nwora decked Grayson while Grayson was airborn posterizing him, sending him hard to the ground.

It looks like the Bucks will get the #1 seed.  I believe 5 teams can win it:  Milwaukee, Boston, Philly, Denver, Phoenix.  I'm not sure Durabt has enough time to acclimate but we'll see. 

[Uncle Rico]

Those who know ball say, "peddle his ass," hey?

As a known ball knower, I said keep his azz

[MuggsyB]

Embiid isn't really guardable. Tremendous shooting touch.  He's a bigger Hakeem??

[BM1090]

It looks like the Bucks will get the #1 seed.  I believe 5 teams can win it:  Milwaukee, Boston, Philly, Denver, Phoenix.  I'm not sure Durabt has enough time to acclimate but we'll see.

GS can win it if they get Wiggins back in the next week or so. Maybe Memphis? But I think they are a year away.

[WhiteTrash]

It looks like the Bucks will get the #1 seed.  I believe 5 teams can win it:  Milwaukee, Boston, Philly, Denver, Phoenix.  I'm not sure Durabt has enough time to acclimate but we'll see.

Sorry to Bucks, Celtics, Denver fans, according to ESPN, its the Lakers and a bunch of "also rans".

[Jockey]

Sorry to Bucks, Celtics, Denver fans, according to ESPN, its the Lakers and a bunch of "also rans".

According to who?

[WhiteTrash]

According to who?

The same ESPN folks who correctly picked the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl and Duke to win the National Championship on Monday night. 

Seriously I think it was on Mike Greenberg's show some NBA "experts" said the Lakers love their chances against the Nuggets, King, Suns, Griz. The "experts" agreed that the Lakers would beat all of them.

[Jockey]

The same ESPN folks who correctly picked the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl and Duke to win the National Championship on Monday night. 

Seriously I think it was on Mike Greenberg's show some NBA "experts" said the Lakers love their chances against the Nuggets, King, Suns, Griz. The "experts" agreed that the Lakers would beat all of them.

Names?  I think your post might be hyperbole. I use it often enough to recognize it.

[Uncle Rico]

The same ESPN folks who correctly picked the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl and Duke to win the National Championship on Monday night. 

Seriously I think it was on Mike Greenberg's show some NBA "experts" said the Lakers love their chances against the Nuggets, King, Suns, Griz. The "experts" agreed that the Lakers would beat all of them.

Why do you watch ESPN? 

[WhiteTrash]

Why do you watch ESPN?

I know, right? Actually was listening to XM Radio. Not much better but I do enjoy Greenberg.

I don't remember which 'Experts" were in love with the Lakers. Maybe someone else can tell me. It's not a big deal, was trying to poke fun at ESPN's love with the Lakers. Maybe I'm alone in getting that vibe from ESPN.

[Jockey]

I know, right? Actually was listening to XM Radio. Not much better but I do enjoy Greenberg.

I don't remember which 'Experts" were in love with the Lakers. Maybe someone else can tell me. It's not a big deal, was trying to poke fun at ESPN's love with the Lakers. Maybe I'm alone in getting that vibe from ESPN.

The only surprise is that they weren't pushing the Knicks as a contender.

[MuggsyB]

I see the Bucks are down 14 to the C's st Fiserv??  WTF?? 

[Uncle Rico]

I see the Bucks are down 14 to the C's st Fiserv??  WTF??

Season is over