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Hards Alumni · « **Reply #425 on:** October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM »

Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole · « **Reply #426 on:** October 13, 2022, 07:21:44 AM »

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM

Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

Yeah, I don't quite get how that somehow gets ignored just because it was an NBA practice.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #427 on:** October 13, 2022, 07:43:13 AM »

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM

Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 13, 2022, 07:21:44 AM

Yeah, I don't quite get how that somehow gets ignored just because it was an NBA practice.

If Poole wants to press charges he can. Then it would be an assault. He won't press charges

lawdog77 · « **Reply #428 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:01:19 AM »

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 07:43:13 AM

If Poole wants to press charges he can. Then it would be an assault. He won't press charges

The prosecution can still pursue the case even if Poole declines to press charges.

ATL MU Warrior · « **Reply #429 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:01:32 AM »

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM

Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

The victim and their opportunistic tendencies?

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #430 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:03:31 AM »

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 07:43:13 AM

If Poole wants to press charges he can. Then it would be an assault. He won't press charges

civil vs criminal

MuggsyB · « **Reply #431 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:23:01 AM »

Well, whatever your point of view on this altercation is there seems to be a disconnect to me. I recall Myles Leonard was suspended for making an anti-semitic remark while playing video games on camera. The idea that what Green did "happens all the time" is a justification that it's no big deal is frankly ridiculous.

I'm also hearing a lot about the Jordan/Kerr fight which by the way took place like 25 years ago or something? I get a professional basketball practice isn't the same as fights in the normal workplace but I simply do not believe that punch was a normal day at the office. Daryl Morey got more scrutiny from players and many in the NBA for tweeting "Free Hong Kong". The idea Green won't get any suspension for this is laughable imo.

WhiteTrash · « **Reply #432 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:27:17 AM »

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 08:03:31 AM

civil vs criminal

It would most definitely be criminal. Green would be found guilty (based upon video).

I don't think anything would be gained by criminal prosecution.

Civil litigation would result in Green losing money but mostly the attorneys would win.

Hards Alumni · « **Reply #433 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:41:45 AM »

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 13, 2022, 08:27:17 AM

It would most definitely be criminal. Green would be found guilty (based upon video).

I don't think anything would be gained by criminal prosecution.

Civil litigation would result in Green losing money but mostly the attorneys would win.

Yeah, that is the point I am making.

Davante has been criminally charged with assault. Draymond should be as well.

Spotcheck Billy · « **Reply #434 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:03:06 AM »

Bobby Portis once got what, a 9 game suspension for throwing a punch in practice?

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #435 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:07:15 AM »

Let the team handle it. If this is their decision, 🤷🏼‍♂️

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #436 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:10:39 AM »

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 13, 2022, 08:01:19 AM

The prosecution can still pursue the case even if Poole declines to press charges.

Of course they can but I can't imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case between two professional athletes without a willing complainant

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 08:41:45 AM

Yeah, that is the point I am making.

Davante has been criminally charged with assault. Draymond should be as well.

The difference is that Davante's complainant is pressing charges. If Poole was pressing charges, Draymond would be criminally charged as well. I'm not a lawyer but I work with prosecutors in my job regularly. My experience is limited to only a handful of prosecutors but 100% of the ones that I know would never criminally charge assault without a willing complainant. And in most cases, I think that's a good thing. The complainant should have a significant say in how their case is addressed.

lawdog77 · « **Reply #437 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:14:47 AM »

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 09:10:39 AM

Of course they can but I can't imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case between two professional athletes without a willing complainant

Well, I read your comment literally, and it sounded like you were saying it would only be assault if Poole pressed charges.
It's California, so who knows.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #438 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:18:21 AM »

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 13, 2022, 09:14:47 AM

Well, I read your comment literally, and it sounded like you were saying it would only be assault if Poole pressed charges.
It's California, so who knows.

That's fair and ha, you're right. Who knows in Cali?

MUBurrow · « **Reply #439 on:** October 13, 2022, 10:11:49 AM »

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 08:41:45 AM

Yeah, that is the point I am making.

Davante has been criminally charged with assault. Draymond should be as well.

You're probably right by the letter of the law, but how many times has athlete violence against another athlete on or around the playing field been criminally prosecuted? I think Bertuzzi got charged, but that's the only one that jumps to mind. And honestly its probably for the best. We've just decided that prosecutors are going to take a hands-off approach to sports, and until we have a huge problem with athletes assaulting each other under the cover of competition, we're probably better off not throwing public resources at the issue.

JWags85 · « **Reply #440 on:** October 13, 2022, 10:14:30 AM »

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 09:10:39 AM

Of course they can but I can't imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case between two professional athletes without a willing complainant

The difference is that Davante's complainant is pressing charges. If Poole was pressing charges, Draymond would be criminally charged as well. I'm not a lawyer but I work with prosecutors in my job regularly. My experience is limited to only a handful of prosecutors but 100% of the ones that I know would never criminally charge assault without a willing complainant. And in most cases, I think that's a good thing. The complainant should have a significant say in how their case is addressed.

I also believe the criminal charges in the Davante case is a prelude to a civil settlement, more than "I want to see this man in jail". Poole isn't seeking financial damages so there is little gained.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #441 on:** October 13, 2022, 06:53:15 PM »

There's been a few reports that Golden State didn't suspend Green because they didn't want him to miss the ring ceremony. How thoughtful of the organization. I wonder what would have happened if he punched Curry?