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Title: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: kryza on March 23, 2017, 10:33:25 PM
I haven't heard about this kid and can't find anything online about him. But it looks like he got an offer from Marquette and Harry Froling is trying to convince him (https://twitter.com/HarryFroling/status/845108955210809344) to come (he's from Australia too). Anyone know anything about him?

The pictures in the tweet show he got offers from a lot of BE teams and also Oregon, Arizona, Tenn, and other high majors so I'm guessing he's got to be pretty good. Weird there's nothing online. Gotta say I love the Aussie pipeline either way. 
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on March 23, 2017, 10:36:39 PM
Never heard of him, and you're right i just tried searching him up too and nothing came up
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: Stronghold on March 23, 2017, 10:47:26 PM
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Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: TrevorCandelino on March 23, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
His Dad - Rob Rose - played for George Mason and professionally in Australia. 
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 23, 2017, 11:16:00 PM
*scratches head*
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: MUfan12 on March 23, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
I think those were acceptance letters in the pic, not basketball scholarship offers. Walk-on candidate, maybe.

Quick search got this- http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-rose/zSbwErMCEeS-8KA2nzwbTA/gendersport/basketball-stats.htm
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 24, 2017, 01:48:58 AM
Don't think this is an actual player. Most likely just a walk on.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 24, 2017, 06:55:06 AM
Wojo liked the tweet. He said he had 8 scholarship offers. Maybe academic scholarships though.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: bilsu on March 24, 2017, 07:12:10 AM
Never heard of him, and you're right i just tried searching him up too and nothing came up
You have to do the search with an Austrailian accent.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2017, 07:22:42 AM
Traditional, hey?
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 24, 2017, 08:26:03 AM
Wojo liked the tweet. He said he had 8 scholarship offers. Maybe academic scholarships though.

Don't think he could play basketball, then. Walk-ons can't receive academic scholarships.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: wadesworld on March 24, 2017, 08:52:49 AM
Jalen Rose have any eligibility left?
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: bilsu on March 24, 2017, 01:16:20 PM
Don't think he could play basketball, then. Walk-ons can't receive academic scholarships.
True, but he could practice with team. The first year would be like a redshirt year. You give him a basketball scholarship the next year, if he is good enough.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: forgetful on March 24, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
Don't think he could play basketball, then. Walk-ons can't receive academic scholarships.

Not true, walk-ons can receive academic scholarships, they just have to be rewarded through the normal application process independent of any athletic consideration.

Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: BM1090 on March 24, 2017, 02:07:45 PM
Not true, walk-ons can receive academic scholarships, they just have to be rewarded through the normal application process independent of any athletic consideration.

You could be right but I thought there was a rule against it. Otherwise, why offer a basketball scholarship to someone like Markus Howard? 4.0 GPA in High School, graduated in 3 years. Likely could have earned a full academic scholarship.

Have him walk on, give him an academic scholarship, free up another basketball scholarship.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 24, 2017, 02:09:50 PM
Wojo liked the tweet. He said he had 8 scholarship offers. Maybe academic scholarships though.

Clearly they are recruiting him to be a walk on then...no other reason for Wojo to like the tweet...
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: forgetful on March 24, 2017, 02:17:01 PM
You could be right but I thought there was a rule against it. Otherwise, why offer a basketball scholarship to someone like Markus Howard? 4.0 GPA in High School, graduated in 3 years. Likely could have earned a full academic scholarship.

Have him walk on, give him an academic scholarship, free up another basketball scholarship.

A lot of this is prestige related.  Also, the academic scholarships are quite competitive and not necessarily full-rides. They are also decided quite late in the process and have continuing requirements regarding academic progress that are far more strenuous than athletic requirements.

If someone is being recruited you want them to have a guarantee early in the process and a guarantee that is related to athletic progress. The athletic scholarship is a guarantee.  No top recruit is going to declare to a school on the possibility of an academic award.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: GGGG on March 24, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
You could be right but I thought there was a rule against it. Otherwise, why offer a basketball scholarship to someone like Markus Howard? 4.0 GPA in High School, graduated in 3 years. Likely could have earned a full academic scholarship.

Have him walk on, give him an academic scholarship, free up another basketball scholarship.

Because that would get you investigated by the NCAA. Marquette doesn't want that.

Walk ons can get scholarships and all other sorts of financial aid.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: BM1090 on March 24, 2017, 03:41:56 PM
Because that would get you investigated by the NCAA. Marquette doesn't want that.

Walk ons can get scholarships and all other sorts of financial aid.

I misunderstood the rule. Thank you.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 26, 2017, 06:23:04 AM
A lot of this is prestige related.  Also, the academic scholarships are quite competitive and not necessarily full-rides. They are also decided quite late in the process and have continuing requirements regarding academic progress that are far more strenuous than athletic requirements.

If someone is being recruited you want them to have a guarantee early in the process and a guarantee that is related to athletic progress. The athletic scholarship is a guarantee.  No top recruit is going to declare to a school on the possibility of an academic award.

Unless you decide to go to Princeton or Harvard or one of the other Ivies. Didn't we try to recruit someone who went to Harvard?
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 26, 2017, 06:26:48 AM
Unless you decide to go to Princeton or Harvard or one of the other Ivies. Didn't we try to recruit someone who went to Harvard?

Briefly, I believe we offered Zena Edowansom (sp?) who was a top-100 kid that Amaker landed. Harvard has found ways to essentially make school free for major basketball recruits, though you'd think that would be helping him more considering Ivy recruiting restrictions.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 26, 2017, 10:44:56 AM
Frank Ben Eze
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: Nukem2 on March 26, 2017, 12:19:39 PM
Frank Ben Eze
He made a visit to MU as well. 
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
Don't think he could play basketball, then. Walk-ons can't receive academic scholarships.

Yes, they can, as long as they weren't recruited.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2017, 05:49:22 PM
Because that would get you investigated by the NCAA. Marquette doesn't want that.

Walk ons can get scholarships and all other sorts of financial aid.

Not if they are in their first year at the institution and meet the definition of recruited. Have to earn a 3.0 too.
Title: Re: New Offer to Jacob Rose from Australia?
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 26, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Don't think this is an actual player. Most likely just a walk on.

Cam Marota and Deon Franklin thank you.