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Author Topic: Should We Hope for a National Title?  (Read 2666 times)

warriorfred

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Should We Hope for a National Title?
« on: March 29, 2024, 09:24:11 PM »
I had a few beers with a Wisconsin alum and NIL contributor during the opening round of the NCAA tournament.  He was bummed that Kon Knueppel signed with Duke because Wisconsin only offered $500,000 a year and Duke came through with $1 million. 

I cannot envision Marquette competing for talent at those lofty spending levels.

Admittedly, my disappointment tonight stems from the the fact Marquette may have had its best opportunity to win the Natty these past two (2) seasons while the NCAA basketball world sorted-out compensation for players.

Going forward, I don't know how Marquette can find the money needed to compete at an elite level?

Should we be happy with an occasional Sweet 16?  Am I overly pessimistic?




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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2024, 09:25:02 PM »
MU topped UW's number from what I was told.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2024, 09:25:39 PM »
A lot of the teams left have paid for their rosters. Hard to imagine how MU can keep up and expect to reach the end weekends without hitting the transfer portals etc.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2024, 09:25:57 PM »
I had a few beers with a Wisconsin alum and NIL contributor during the opening round of the NCAA tournament.  He was bummed that Kon Knueppel signed with Duke because Wisconsin only offered $500,000 a year and Duke came through with $1 million. 

I cannot envision Marquette competing for talent at those lofty spending levels.

Admittedly, my disappointment tonight stems from the the fact Marquette may have had its best opportunity to win the Natty these past two (2) seasons while the NCAA basketball world sorted-out compensation for players.

Going forward, I don't know how Marquette can find the money needed to compete at an elite level?

Should we be happy with an occasional Sweet 16?  Am I overly pessimistic?

If money was an issue, someone would have thrown the bag at Tyler and taken him away.
 
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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2024, 09:27:27 PM »
If money was an issue, someone would have thrown the bag at Tyler and taken him away.

That gives me some hope.  But I am thinking 3-4 years down the road, and that is a large cash outlay for an elite NCAA basketball team.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2024, 09:29:45 PM »
Of course we should.
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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2024, 09:30:35 PM »
That gives me some hope.  But I am thinking 3-4 years down the road, and that is a large cash outlay for an elite NCAA basketball team.

Maybe.  Marquette NIL will also funnel all their money/most of the money to the basketball program.

Most football schools will chase football glory.  They’ll be plenty for hoops, of course, and they’ll always have a lot of resources.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2024, 09:33:12 PM »
I am a small town kid from the upper midwest, and the dollar amounts shocked me.  Wonder what the UCONN salary cap is this year?

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2024, 09:33:28 PM »
A lot of the teams left have paid for their rosters. Hard to imagine how MU can keep up and expect to reach the end weekends without hitting the transfer portals etc.

Are our guys making no money? That seems highly unlikely.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2024, 09:36:05 PM »
You should hope for one as long as you realize that the probability is that you won’t see one in the next 20 years.

I would be happy though if the team could consistently contend for conference titles and protected seeds in the NCAA tournament. The more chances they get the better the chances that they could catch lightning in a bottle once.


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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2024, 09:36:20 PM »
The Wisconsin Alum Referenced stated that most of the starters at UW were making $300,000 to $500,000 a year, and a $1 million payment to Kon Knueppel would have destroyed any team chemistry.


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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2024, 09:39:35 PM »
You should hope for one as long as you realize that the probability is that you won’t see one in the next 20 years.

I would be happy though if the team could consistently contend for conference titles and protected seeds in the NCAA tournament. The more chances they get the better the chances that they could catch lightning in a bottle once.

I am not expecting a Natty in my lifetime, and at this point, it seems too much to hope for.  But in 2003, if you asked me, "Would Marquette return to the Final Four in the next 20 years," I would have unequivocally said "Yes."

I could not answer "Yes" today.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2024, 09:40:51 PM »
I am not expecting a Natty in my lifetime, and at this point, it seems too much to hope for.  But in 2003, if you asked me, "Would Marquette return to the Final Four in the next 20 years," I would have unequivocally said "Yes."

I could not answer "Yes" today.

Miami, FAU and SDSU made the Final 4 last year
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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2024, 09:40:58 PM »
The Wisconsin Alum Referenced stated that most of the starters at UW were making $300,000 to $500,000 a year, and a $1 million payment to Kon Knueppel would have destroyed any team chemistry.

Absolute garbage value is they were making over a quarter mil this year.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2024, 09:44:50 PM »
Absolute garbage value is they were making over a quarter mil this year.

I completely agree, but if you are telling me that Marquette needs $2.5 million a year for an average to slightly above average starting five, and that price is only increasing each year, I don't know what to say?
« Last Edit: March 29, 2024, 09:46:47 PM by warriorfred »

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2024, 09:45:42 PM »
I’m 27 and will be happy to see 1 final four let alone a natty. Who knows maybe we’ll be a 11 seed Cinderella one year like nc state this year.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2024, 09:46:27 PM »
Can receipts from large attendance at the FISERV go to NIL money?
If that is the case, with an exceptional coach like Shaka, MU should keep competitive teams on the court.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2024, 09:46:33 PM »
The Wisconsin Alum Referenced stated that most of the starters at UW were making $300,000 to $500,000 a year, and a $1 million payment to Kon Knueppel would have destroyed any team chemistry.
…if true, I’d say UW overpaid. And now their team is hitting the exits. One starter in the portal. A bench guy…portal. A touted recruit that never played…portal. Another one or two likely to hit the portal in the coming weeks.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2024, 09:46:34 PM »
Yes. If not, what are you even doing here? Delete your account.
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warriorfred

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2024, 09:47:50 PM »
Yes. If not, what are you even doing here? Delete your account.

Pondering that very question my friend.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2024, 09:51:43 PM by warriorfred »

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2024, 09:50:24 PM »
Wow, I am disappointed, but it is only entertainment.
Would quit watching before cheering for a UNC, Kansas or U of Kentucky.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2024, 09:52:23 PM »
Wow, I am disappointed, but it is only entertainment.
Would quit watching before cheering for a UNC, Kansas or U of Kentucky.

Whoa, no one said anything about going to the dark side.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2024, 09:54:54 PM »
Miami, FAU and SDSU made the Final 4 last year

Pre NIL gaining traction.   Won’t happen again.

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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2024, 09:56:10 PM »
Pre NIL gaining traction.   Won’t happen again.

Yes it will.
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Re: Should We Hope for a National Title?
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2024, 09:56:40 PM »
Is this a serious question?