Oso planning to go pro
I suppose, but I'm literally saying that he is an alum because he has enough years of attending MU and credits earned to qualify per MU's definition of alumnae status.
He had enough credits to be considered a woman?
Easy Lenny. The University is at fault too. They decided to let Buzz recruit Crowder. That was on them. But afterwards they decided afterwards that they didn't want it to happen in the future. Buzz was not happy with that decision but had to live with it. And yes it was a rule and it was broken. They knew going in that Jae Crowder had gone to an unaccreditted JUCO his freshman year. This means that none of his credits would transfer in. He only had one year of coursework done. That left three years worth of work to do and only two years to complete it. That is an APR no no. The university allowed it once but wasn't going to allow it again.
At fault, too? It's ALL on the university. They alone decide who can and who cannot be admitted. If they had a "rule" then they broke it. Basketball coaches scour the country looking for talent. A lot of that talent is borderline (or worse) academically. If the guy is good enough (Wade or Crowder, eg.,) coaches ask the powers that be to make an exception and grant them admission. If TC or Buzz altered transcripts to try to get their guys in they broke a rule. Otherwise what you said is 100% wrong. The admission of Dwyane and Jae was totally up to the school. I have no doubt that there came a time when MU told Buzz no more Crowders (Wades were eliminated by rule when we entered the BigEast) just as they told him no more Humphrey for freshmen and sophomores and higher than NCAA requirements for incoming freshmen) and I have no doubt that Buzz wasn't happy about it. No coach would be.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
Lenny,I'm not sure what you think I am accusing Buzz of. He recruited a player knowing full well that he wasn't going to be able to graduate before his eligibility ran out. He asked the university for an exception, they granted it. The university later decided that granting that exception was squirmy and told Buzz they weren't going to grant that kind of exception in the future. Buzz was pissed. In my opinion getting told that should not pis someone off, at least not to the extent that it did. That's it. That is all that is being said.And again, other than having struggling academics there is zero connection between Dwyane and Jae. Two completely different situations. Unless you are seeing a connection I am not, which I'd be open to hearing about
First, you said Buzz "broke a rule by admitting Crowder". You're flat out wrong. Buzz didn't admit Crowder. He couldn't admit Crowder. It's not his responsibility to admit or deny basketball players. Buzz broke no rules. I don't know how much of an "exception" to normal policy Jae was, but I know he wasn't the first JUCO to be admitted under similar circumstances. So Buzz asked for and received an exception for Jae, like basketball and football coaches do regularly at D1 programs. Regarding Wade, it was also Marquette policy (what you wrongly call "rules") to not admit Prop 48s. We had broken with policy once before (Alton Mason, I believe) and it ended quickly and badly. It was a big enough exception to policy that TC had to appeal to the president to get Wade past admissions. God knows what would have become of Marquette basketball if Bob Wild had not given Tom Crean his permission to "break Marquette's rules" (not my characterization, but yours if there's any consistency to your argument).
Lenny, I'm not calling it a rule because of some Marquette policy. If you recruit and admit students that you know won't graduate, it hurts your APR score. Get too low of an APR score and you get penalized. That is why I called it a rule. Whether the proper term is policy, rule, or guideline it doesn't matter. Admitting students who have almost no chance of graduating is something a university shouldn't do.
Lenny, I'm not calling it a rule because of some Marquette policy. If you recruit and admit students that you know won't graduate, it hurts your APR score. Get too low of an APR score and you get penalized. That is why I called it a rule. Whether the proper term is policy, rule, or guideline it doesn't matter. Admitting students who have almost no chance of graduating is something a university shouldn't do.I'm sorry I used the phrase "Buzz admitted" that was incorrect. I should have said Buzz recruited and the university admitted. I honestly didn't think anything of or mean anything by it.Lenny, I feel like I have offended you somehow and I apologize if I have. All I'm really trying to get here is that though I am proud to have Jae as a fellow alum (nod to CBB), I understand and respect the university's reasons behind deciding to not allow a similar situation to happen in the future.
To be honest, I find Kentucky's approach at least intellectually honest. They aren't pretending
You mean like, Adolf Hitler and Mein Kampf? There was a refreshing candor to Hitler that is rarely found in a politician.
I don't understand why Marquette felt the need to raise their admission standard, or the whole JUCO thing. So a guy might not graduate, big deal. At every university in the country kids enroll and don't graduate. I think the administration has a very overinflated opinion of what our school really is. In the Forbes latest university rankings we were 176th for undergraduate studies. Couple that with the extremely high tuition costs and I don't think kids are getting too much bang for their buck in choosing Marquette.
To be honest, I find Kentucky's approach at least intellectually honest. They aren't pretending to integrate athletes into the overall experience. They aren't pretending to be anything other than a basketball factory. I prefer *that* approach, simply due to its brutal honesty, than the many schools that SAY they are all about academics, etc., but in truth really aren't. That being said, I don't want that for MU. I want Marquette to be competitive on a high level like they have been over the past dozen years or so. I can see the importance of NCAA minimum admission standards, investing in academic resources for the players, residence halls that are nicer than those for the average freshman, and an *occasional* flyer on a player like Jae. I just want those players while they are here to represent the university well both in the classroom and in the community. And I of course want them to win. Constant final fours? Not likely. Consistent competitiveness in the conference, sweet 16s, and occasional advancement beyond that? Sure.
Agree with this 100%. There will always be a little tension between the basketball program and the administration if both are doing their jobs. The key is to keep it at "a little". The administration has sent a lot of mixed signals over the last 5 years. Hopefully, a new president soon to be followed by a new AD along with a new coach will result in a more unified front.
What does +1 mean?
The money to build the Jes Res is coming from donations earmarked for that expense. The current Jes Res was built in 1916. Maybe it's a recruiting tool to get more priests!!