Scholarship table
You are literally taking it too literally. If we measured guys production on the is team by 4 minute segments, think you’d find a lot of non factors out there other than Markus. The over-arching point is that having significant volatility in your playing time and role game to game AND having to navigate a generally short leash in a game - that’s tough sledding for any player. Nonetheless, just another guy to quit mid-season on Wojo: Burton, Dawson, Cohen, Cheatham, Traci, and now Ed. Nothing to see here.
I don’t know.
Nonetheless, just another guy to quit mid-season on Wojo: Burton, Dawson, Cohen, Cheatham, Traci, and now Ed.
Was also told he quit: and it was obviously less "getting pulled because of one long 2 against Providence" and more "a 5th year senior is frustrated he's fallen down the depth chart and he/the staff didn't see eye to eye on his minutes moving forward".I'm certain it's been mentioned already but it really is a Catch 22. I'm sure Ed feels he hasn't been able to establish a good rhythm on the court due to a lack of minutes, but it's hard to justify giving him minutes when he's been straight up lousy all season. I feel for Ed because he seems like a genuinely good dude off the court, and his toughness and energy are traits any contending team can use.While I find it hard to criticize Wojo for not playing a guy who's been a literal anchor for this team (his in-conference +/- of -27 speaks for itself), what's troubling is the track record of guys straight up leaving the program when they've seemingly lost favor with Wojo relative to other players:- Deonte- Traci- Sandy- Dawson- (Wally?)- Haanif- Harry- Sam and Joey- EdOutside of the guys who opted to redshirt (Sacar, Greg, Dexter), I can only think of Jamal as a guy who has embraced his role coming off the bench and publicly remained positive while being leapfrogged on the depth chart - Ben Steele story late last season. Despite my vocal concerns with Wojo after Sam and Joey left, I still think he can get it done here. But trends like this are hard to ignore, and if you're not one of his "guys" it seems like a revolving door.
Much of that list....didn’t pan out. This is big boy basketball. Dawson...my God...how was he even recruited to MU?
Nonetheless, just another guy to quit mid-season on Wojo: Burton, Dawson, Cohen, Cheatham, Traci, and now Ed. Nothing to see here.
Wojo is a horrible coach whom every player hates ... and yet somehow he has landed a top-10 recruiting class. These young men said they chose Marquette in great part because of the camaraderie they felt while getting to know the players and coaches during their campus visits. I guess Wojo must be quite a hypnotist!
It is very possible that Wojo's sales pitch doesn't live up to the experience for everyone once they get to Milwaukee. Is the difference in 5-8 minutes per game big enough for a guy to walk away from his college basketball career? Or could something else be going on in the relationship between player and coach? Is it possible that the Wojo the players get behind closed doors is different than the guy who sat on their living room couch and promised mom he'd take good care of the player? Maybe he's not the smiling Duke-molded Stepford coach we get at alumni events and in interviews. It's also highly likely that 20-ish year olds that have always been at the top of the totem pole struggle dealing with the adversity that comes at this level of basketball. I absolutely get that. There's just been a lot of smoke with this fire during his tenure, and it has now been a significant storyline for the last 9 months.The whole "it's fine to lose talented players because if they don't want to be here, we don't want them here" thought process seems naive to me. It's certainly one way to cope with a break up, but it's not completely honest.
Instead there has consistently been zero buy-in from anyone on taking a lesser role but still contributing when called upon. And I feel like at a certain point, you've gotta start getting that instead of continual scorched earth.
Does Matt Heldt count? he took a lesser role... went from start junior year to off the bench senior year. I don't think he compares to Ed's skill level, but he bought in to team first.
Serious hypothetical question:If Sam and Joey come back this year and Wojo still wanted to have two guards on the floor at all times, who would be the starting five right now??My take: Guards: Markus and Koby.Center: TheoForwards: Now here's where it gets fun and may answer part of the transfer question.: Sam and ?Sam and Joey?? Sam and Sacar??Sam and Brendan??Starting to see the problem??Theres minutes available but who would Wojo give the starting nod to??Whoever he gives the starting job to, two other guys are going to be pissed.If Wojo started Sacar(likely) Joey would have lost his____If Wojo gave the starting job to Joey, Sacar would have had every right to walk.Wojo wouldn't have given the starting job to Brendan over Sacar or Joey, so he very well may have transferred.The addition of a second guard in the starting lineup with a roster that included the Hausers was literally unworkable.At the end of last season it was already accepted that Koby would be the second guard. The Hausers knew it, and they also saw Brendan ascending.With willing suitors in UVA and MSU plus the year off for Sams hip to heal and Joey to mature, it was a no brainier for the Hausers to leave. Just like its a no brainier for Ed to leave with Jayce returning to his pre-injury form.
I think part of Ed staying was the idea of the two big lineup that never really came to fruition, partially due to Jayce's injury, but moreso due to the changing aspect of the game simply making it a non-reality in the Big East.Not everyone has the wherewithal to fill the Matt Heldt role, and it seems Ed is in that boat.
Definitely agree with that, and like many I didn't lose a wink of sleep for 7/10 on that list.But my point is more that an upperclass Cheatham or Carter or whomever could have been good for these teams.Instead there has consistently been zero buy-in from anyone on taking a lesser role but still contributing when called upon. And I feel like at a certain point, you've gotta start getting that instead of continual scorched earth.
Cheatham had a child I thought....wasn’t that part of the decision? Carter simply wasn’t going to play as better players came in...he would have been helpful but guys don’t want to sit on the bench. Carter was at two schools after MU...some people are nomads.
Was also told he quit: and it was obviously less "getting pulled because of one long 2 against Providence" and more "a 5th year senior is frustrated he's fallen down the depth chart and he/the staff didn't see eye to eye on his minutes moving forward".
Don't think cheatham had a kid. Also doesn't add up with him being at Nebraska now.
From what I recall it was a family or personal situation and he did transfer close to home. If that situation no longer exists him ending up at Nebraska doesn't seem odd to me at all.