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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #350 on: January 23, 2022, 05:01:06 PM »
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on January 23, 2022, 04:58:20 PM
Want to bump this back to the top. Since we won by 11 did we max our our NET

One portion of the algorithm. However, the efficiency metric doesn’t have a cap.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #351 on: January 23, 2022, 05:06:11 PM »
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on January 23, 2022, 04:58:20 PM
Want to bump this back to the top. Since we won by 11 did we max our our NET

I've mentioned this before, but it seems a lot are still unaware. The NCAA removed scoring margin from the NET. So scoring margin doesn't matter, besides how it affects efficiency.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-announces-changes-to-simplify-formula-for-college-basketballs-net-ratings/

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2021-12-06/college-basketballs-net-rankings-explained
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #352 on: January 23, 2022, 05:21:23 PM »
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on January 23, 2022, 04:58:20 PM
Want to bump this back to the top. Since we won by 11 did we max our our NET

There's no such thing as maxing out our NET. You can always be more efficient which improves your NET. There is a "bonus" in NET for scoring margin that caps at 10, so we maxed that out.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #353 on: January 23, 2022, 05:22:39 PM »
Just win, baby
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #354 on: January 23, 2022, 05:26:35 PM »
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 23, 2022, 05:21:23 PM
There's no such thing as maxing out our NET. You can always be more efficient which improves your NET. There is a "bonus" in NET for scoring margin that caps at 10, so we maxed that out.

Thanks for this clarification!!!
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #355 on: January 23, 2022, 05:27:44 PM »
Quote from: forgetful on January 23, 2022, 05:06:11 PM
I've mentioned this before, but it seems a lot are still unaware. The NCAA removed scoring margin from the NET. So scoring margin doesn't matter, besides how it affects efficiency.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-announces-changes-to-simplify-formula-for-college-basketballs-net-ratings/

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2021-12-06/college-basketballs-net-rankings-explained

Thanks! I appreciate the links. I had a lot of questions about NET and this helps!
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #356 on: January 23, 2022, 05:35:37 PM »
Quote from: forgetful on January 23, 2022, 05:06:11 PM
I've mentioned this before, but it seems a lot are still unaware. The NCAA removed scoring margin from the NET. So scoring margin doesn't matter, besides how it affects efficiency.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-announces-changes-to-simplify-formula-for-college-basketballs-net-ratings/

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2021-12-06/college-basketballs-net-rankings-explained

And just 15 minutes later ...

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 23, 2022, 05:21:23 PM
There's no such thing as maxing out our NET. You can always be more efficient which improves your NET. There is a "bonus" in NET for scoring margin that caps at 10, so we maxed that out.

Okay, guys, which is it? 
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #357 on: January 23, 2022, 05:40:50 PM »
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 23, 2022, 05:35:37 PM
And just 15 minutes later ...

Okay, guys, which is it?

I'm a bit torn. I trust my links, but TAMU usually knows his crap in this arena.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #358 on: January 23, 2022, 05:41:41 PM »
Also, strange aside. But last season we had the most Q1 wins (5) out of all teams who didn't make the tournament.

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #359 on: January 23, 2022, 06:00:04 PM »
Unranked. Receiving votes. Doubt we go from 0 votes to ranked.

But they really do deserve to be ranked
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #360 on: January 23, 2022, 06:05:23 PM »
Quote from: BM1090 on January 23, 2022, 06:00:04 PM
Unranked. Receiving votes. Doubt we go from 0 votes to ranked.

But they really do deserve to be ranked


I don't know....with all of the other teams that lost and two more wins over ranked teams, including a road win at Nova, I think they get in.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #361 on: January 23, 2022, 06:05:36 PM »
Quote from: BM1090 on January 23, 2022, 06:00:04 PM
Unranked. Receiving votes. Doubt we go from 0 votes to ranked.

But they really do deserve to be ranked

We will 100% be ranked
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #362 on: January 23, 2022, 06:14:37 PM »
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 23, 2022, 06:05:36 PM
We will 100% be ranked

Yep - 6 game win streak and 2 straight against ranked opponents. Maybe 3 ? Can’t remember if SHU was ranked
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« Reply #363 on: January 23, 2022, 06:16:00 PM »
Quote from: panda on January 23, 2022, 06:14:37 PM
Yep - 6 game win streak and 2 straight against ranked opponents. Maybe 3 ? Can’t remember if SHU was ranked

Yup at the time they were
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #364 on: January 23, 2022, 06:16:13 PM »
We just beat 3 top-20 teams. If we are not ranked, it is clearly a vast right-wing conspiracy.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #365 on: January 23, 2022, 06:18:33 PM »
Ranked or not ranked, this is top twenty team at the moment. There is not a BE team that is inking in a win against this team. While being ranked tomorrow is going to taste great, staying there is the goal.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #366 on: January 23, 2022, 06:59:38 PM »
Quote from: forgetful on January 23, 2022, 05:40:50 PM
I'm a bit torn. I trust my links, but TAMU usually knows his crap in this arena.

Nope it appears I'm wrong. I missed that change,  thanks for the links!
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #367 on: January 23, 2022, 07:02:53 PM »
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 23, 2022, 06:16:13 PM
We just beat 3 top-20 teams. If we are not ranked, it is clearly a vast right-wing conspiracy.

I will be completely stunned if we are not ranked.

The Nova win put us on every voter's radar. Then to follow up with another win over a ranked team ... to borrow a phrase ...

#donedeal
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #368 on: January 23, 2022, 07:05:26 PM »
Quote from: MU82 on January 23, 2022, 07:02:53 PM
I will be completely stunned if we are not ranked.

The Nova win put us on every voter's radar. Then to follow up with another win over a ranked team ... to borrow a phrase ...

#donedeal

I agree. Some of it is just who is hot at the time. It’s less about resumes and more about who is winning. I think we’ve turned enough heads to make the leap this week.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #369 on: January 23, 2022, 07:55:13 PM »
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 23, 2022, 06:05:36 PM
We will 100% be ranked

I posted in the wrong thread. Thought I was in the what are we ranked thread. I’d love to be wrong. I thought we deserved votes last week and definitely deserve to be ranked this week. I just think we’ll miss by a few points.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #370 on: January 23, 2022, 10:41:43 PM »
Quote from: forgetful on January 23, 2022, 05:41:41 PM
Also, strange aside. But last season we had the most Q1 wins (5) out of all teams who didn't make the tournament.

I wish you would’ve just let us be forgetful of that little nugget

I like the win and the 11 pt margin here, along with the metrics rise defensively.

I’ll go with a guess of a rise from 36 to 29 in tomorrows NET!
« Last Edit: January 23, 2022, 10:45:55 PM by DoctorV »
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #371 on: January 23, 2022, 10:48:49 PM »
Quote from: DoctorV on January 23, 2022, 10:41:43 PM
I wish you would’ve just let us be forgetful of that little nugget

I like the win and the 11 pt margin here, along with the metrics rise defensively.

I’ll go with a guess of a rise from 36 to 29 in tomorrows NET!

Guess that's good we got 6 so far with the Providence one possibly moving into Q1
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #372 on: January 24, 2022, 03:25:22 AM »
Quote from: BM1090 on January 23, 2022, 07:55:13 PM
I posted in the wrong thread. Thought I was in the what are we ranked thread. I’d love to be wrong. I thought we deserved votes last week and definitely deserve to be ranked this week. I just think we’ll miss by a few points.

Someone here will.surely give you mega odds if you wanted to.wager on that.

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« Reply #373 on: January 24, 2022, 07:22:55 AM »
Up to 32
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« Reply #374 on: January 24, 2022, 07:25:54 AM »
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 23, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Guess that's good we got 6 so far with the Providence one possibly moving into Q1

Only chance Prov moves to Q1 is if they sweep this week........which includes our game on Saturday. THey are late 30s right now.

SHU also might need to beat us to keep their precarious spot as well

Obviously beat both SHU and Prov and we gain 2 Q1 wins for them this week so just win and we will keep a good total.
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