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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mileskishnish72 on March 13, 2022, 10:59:35 AM
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Um, I know perhaps a new thread is not totally necessary, but had a question I didn't want to see get lost in one of the other threads.
I have seen brackets printed with the locations of the early games on them. Is this something that is predetermined or do they pick the sites after they decide the teams, with consideration for travel distance, unfair "home court" advantage, and other factors?
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Man, Selection Sunday never gets old, especially when you believe your team will be "in". Even though I'm 67 years old, I'm like a kid on Christmas morning waiting for them to turn over "Marquette" on the Board.
If you think or know your team will be "out", then Selection Sunday sucks.
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This is a great day!!
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Fairly early in Clem Haskins' time at Minnesota, they were sure they were gonna get in. They had a big "watching event," with cheerleaders, the dance line, media invited, etc. And then they didn't make the tourney. Haskins was outraged and it was very embarrassing for the university.
But that was before the days where bracketology became a science.
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I love today. Have a bet with my wife the number of times Jim Spanarkel says "in terms of" on the CBS broadcast.
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This is a great day!!
FRED GARVIN!! FRED GARVIN!! In 1977 and 1978, weren't you a male prostitute every Saturday Night?? (Not that we've ever met or anything). If you could possibly post that pose, you could make my day.
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Um, I know perhaps a new thread is not totally necessary, but had a question I didn't want to see get lost in one of the other threads.
I have seen brackets printed with the locations of the early games on them. Is this something that is predetermined or do they pick the sites after they decide the teams, with consideration for travel distance, unfair "home court" advantage, and other factors?
Somehow no one answered your question. 😅
The sites are determined a few years in advance. The selection committee will place teams into the sites regarding location etc.
Ie Marquette cannot get the fiserv because they play a majority of their games there. Wisconsin can get it if they get seeded high enough.
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Dick,a mans gotta do,what a mans gotta do! Lol. I think I would pull something trying that pose!
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Dick,a mans gotta do,what a mans gotta do! Lol. I think I would pull something trying that pose!
I didn't mean YOUR pose. I meant Akroyd's pose.
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Is the Marquette party streaming anywhere?
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Tourney sleepers???
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Here we go!!
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Texas Tech will give Duke all kinds of problems in the S16.
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NCAA giving Coach K a nice route to the Sweet 16.
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Was kinda hoping for the Joey Hauser matchup.
Honestly just way to to avoid a Kansas matchup. McCormack would be a big problem.
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Keeping K in as long as they can
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Rutgers and ND sneak in.
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UCONN playing in Buffalo could be an advantage. Vermont over Ark??
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Was kinda hoping for the Joey Hauser matchup.
Honestly just way to to avoid a Kansas matchup. McCormack would be a big problem.
Id rather Kansas than Zona or UK
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If I’m a Mountain West team, I’d have major concerns as rest of bracket comes out.
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Think the Quette is out. Not looking good. Only 51 spots left
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Whew.....avoided Zona in the rd of 32.
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The committee does not care about your metrics apparently.
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TCU is gonna smoke the Hall
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So tight jeans are back in style? At least in Chattanooga
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Michigan getting to play in Indy as an 11? Geez.
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Wow Mich gets in and no play-in?
Tenn got hosed.
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We gonna get stuck with Kentucky
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We gonna get stuck with Kentucky
Maybe we can keep up our NCAA luck against them going...
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We gonna get stuck with Kentucky
We own Kentucky!!
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The committee also does not care about your conference tournament championship. Not a bit.
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Not good
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Not good
Tf are you on about dude?
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The committee also does not care about your conference tournament championship. Not a bit.
Nope. Happens every year as well I feel like. Everybody overrates conference tourney results.
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Tf are you on about dude?
Sarcasm.
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The committee also does not care about your conference tournament championship. Not a bit.
I'm really supposed Tenn didn't get a #2 but they have a good draw.
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Not good
Good shot at a top seed in NIT. #silverlining
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Loyola is going to open -1.5 vs Ohio State.
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I'm really supposed Tenn didn't get a #2 but they have a good draw.
They’re better than Duke.
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Shaka couldn't even make one of the first two brackets. Sad.
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I'm thinking we get Murray St and then Baylor?
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Iowa got a hell of a draw
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Providence isn’t beating South Dakota St.
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Wisconsin gets home game in Milwaukee
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Wisconsin gets home game in Milwaukee
Shocking
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Gift Draw for the Weasel/Rodents. SMH.
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Dammit. Hoped we would get that Miami team
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I’m getting nervous
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Gift Draw for the Weasel/Rodents. SMH.
Agreed. Super favorable and easy draw.
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Gift Draw for the Weasel/Rodents. SMH.
Milwaukee...Chicago…
You have to be kidding me
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Should we be nervous?
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Providence will be -1 against South Dakota State, lol.
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Wow.
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Calling 8/9 game vs San Fran.
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Milwaukee...Chicago…
You have to be kidding me
This is egregious.
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Calling 8/9 game vs San Fran.
But the wait has been a little painful!
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Should we be nervous?
About making it? No.
About our draw? Sure.
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Man I hope we get the 10
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This is egregious.
This was completely expected
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Calling 8/9 game vs San Fran.
or Murray State
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Give me Murray State. I want revenge.
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Should we be nervous?
If Michigan and Notre Dame are in, Marquette will be too
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Hoping for a second round matchup against Baylor.
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Creighton at a nine is not a good sign. Seton hall at a nine is.
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Man I hope we get the 10
No.
The 10 or 7 means Kentucky or Purdue.
8/9 means Baylor.
Long shot either way. But Baylor much more likely to be picked off.
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But the wait has been a little painful!
VT will be on that line no?
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Providence isn’t beating South Dakota St.
Thats a BRUTAL draw for them.
Also, feel like USC got shafted a bit.
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or Murray State
I'd take USF
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Get a grip.
Should we be nervous?
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Marquette's bracket is loaded.
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Murray, UNC, VT, SF and US - where do we fit?
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Marquette #9 in East v North Carolina
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unnatural carnal knowledge
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Hey Rico, guess we know you were wrong about MU being the lock and not MSU. Michigan Dtate a 7 seed, MU a 9 seed. But keep professing your wondrous basketball knowledge.
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Yes!!!
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Don’t love that draw.
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Smoke show!
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Anyone heading to Fort Worth?
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I’m okay with that
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X did not mark their spot.
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Bacot is gonna be a real problem.
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The Committee loves the Big Ten - good seeds and favorable locations for almost all of them.
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Kentucky with a bye to the sweet 16
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The Committee loves the Big Ten - good seeds and favorable locations for almost all of them.
Yes.
But I'm okay with our draw.
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Virginia Tech in, Buzz out.
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No X, SMU or A&M
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At least Dayton did not make it in.
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So, Shaka gets MU to the dance and Porter Moser just misses at Oklahoma in year 1.
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Damn X wasnt even close
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UNC is a pretty terrible draw right? Bacot will eat us alive.
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Virginia Tech in, Buzz out.
Nonconference schedule matta.
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X wasn't even first 4 out
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About as good as you can ask for as a Marquette fan.
MU in, Virginia Tech in, Buzz out, Moser didn’t make it, Texas having to play in Milwaukee is pretty comical
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How the hell did Porter Moser not get a 1 seed this year ;D
So, Shaka gets MU to the dance and Porter Moser just misses at Oklahoma in year 1.
;D
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Virginia Tech in, Buzz out.
Buzz got screwed
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UNC is a pretty terrible draw right? Bacot will eat us alive.
Different team, obviously, but MU shut him down last year.
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Making Murray State play San Francisco. C'mon man, let them play the Power 6. Roll the ball out.
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Buzz wasn't even close, A&M only the 4th team out.
MU will get destroyed by UNC.
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Not good
Hey Pico. Guess you were wrong on your prediction that MU was a lock co0mpared to MSU. MSU with a 7 seed MU with a9. But keep professing you wondrous basketball know;edge.
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Michigan with a non play-in 11 at 17-14 is the most surprising to me
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Everybody's favorite team is Colgate
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Bacot against Oso/Kur. Good grief.......
Davis against Kolek. Good grief.......
Manek/Lewis should be good matchup, Manek will keep Lewis away from basket.
UNC has short bench, but don't really like the possible outcome. Congrats to the team for getting in the tournament in Shaka's first year.
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Nonconference schedule matta.
Apparently not for Xavier. 5 Q1 wins, 11th most difficult schedule...out. (41 in NET)
Notre dame. 2 Q1 wins, 97th most difficult schedule...in. (53 in NET)
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Ick UNC and then Baylor
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Buzz wasn't even close, A&M only the 4th team out.
MU will get destroyed by UNC.
Fart.
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UNC is a pretty terrible draw right? Bacot will eat us alive.
they beat duke in cameron indoor on coach k's party day
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Buzz got screwed
Buzz gave himself the 310th ranked nonconference schedule in D-1.
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Bacot is a problem for sure but we can't complain about our draw.
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Different team, obviously, but MU shut him down last year.
Dude's grabbing 5 more boards a game this year. He could get 20 and 20 against us.
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Everybody's favorite team is Colgate
They have a punchers chance. Very god shooting team
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UNC is a tough draw. Whew. We could have done better….but…. Arwuette can beat them! Gooooooooo Marquette! Be Warriors!
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MU opens +4
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Get a grip.
I was definitely a bit over dramatic.
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Michigan with a non play-in 11 at 17-14 is the most surprising to me
And getting to play in Indianapolis - the arena will be filled with UM fans.
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Buzz got screwed
Not a Buzz fan, but pretty hard to find an argument for Notre Dame being in above A&M.
Heck, Buzz even beat ND head to head on a neutral court.
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they beat duke in cameron indoor on coach k's party day
Which, in hindsight, isn't that impressive.
Duke followed that up by squeaking past a shorthanded Syracuse team, squeaking past a middling Miami team and then getting their tails kicked by Virginia Tech.
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When do we get time?
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Virginia Tech in, Buzz out.
VA Tech got auto bid.
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Michigan getting in without the p-i game is absurd.
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VA Tech got auto bid.
I am aware. Was mostly pointing out the irony of Buzz sitting at home while his old team(s) continue to play.
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Not a Buzz fan, but pretty hard to find an argument for Notre Dame being in above A&M.
Heck, Buzz even beat ND head to head on a neutral court.
They really didn’t beat anyone until the conference tournament, however. Still feels like they played their way in
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Buzz gave himself the 310th ranked nonconference schedule in D-1.
I forgot to differentiate between SOS and non-conference SOS. It would appear that the committee did indeed award the latter.
Except for Rutgers, who had the 327th hardest non-conference SOS. It would appear they were rewarded for 6 Q1 wins. Still think Xavier was more deserving in that case...much more difficult schedule and 5 Q1 wins.
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A&M’s non conference schedule was abysmal.
Don’t feel bad for Buzz in the slightest
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What day are we playing?
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Here’s a red pill for Buzz: A&M will be playing in the 2022 NIT.
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What day are we playing?
Thursday.
Im guessing late
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What day are we playing?
Thurs
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Thursday.
Im guessing late
Ty and ty Mugsy…..
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Will tip times come out tonight?
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If MU won't have shot themselves in da Johnson, a few times, a 5 seed wuz sittin' der four da takin'. Knot complanin', we're goin' Uptown, hey?
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It’s going to be 80 degrees here in Ft Worth on Thursday. I bought tickets last week hoping MU would come south to play at Dickies Arena. How serendipitous is that? Come on down for great weather and March Madness!
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Xavier gets the award for most Q1 wins and not in the tournament. Marquette was a previous recipient of that honor.
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Someone decided it would be fun to put the greatest number of past NCAA champs in one Region… too lazy to do the math… 40% of the winners over past 50 years ?
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I think Baylor is the most vulnerable top seed. Granted we will not be favored against UNC but I don't mind the draw at all. You just never know what could happen.
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Apparently not for Xavier. 5 Q1 wins, 11th most difficult schedule...out. (41 in NET)
Notre dame. 2 Q1 wins, 97th most difficult schedule...in. (53 in NET)
Ah, but that I4/ND matchup is TV gold. Who gives a crap about stats and the "science of metrics". X got screwed big time, just glad it wasn't us.
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It’s going to be 80 degrees here in Ft Worth on Thursday. I bought tickets last week hoping MU would come south to play at Dickies Arena. How serendipitous is that? Come on down for great weather and March Madness!
Nice!
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Thursday.
Im guessing late
I’m guessing the opposite, with San Diego State in the pod, my guess is MU is playing Thursday afternoon or morning.
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I think Baylor is the most vulnerable top seed. Granted we will not be favored against UNC but I don't mind the draw at all. You just never know what could happen.
Look on the bright side. At least we're not playing in Carolina.
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I’m guessing the opposite, with San Diego State in the pod, my guess is MU is playing Thursday afternoon or morning.
Yeah think youre right.
I completely miss saw the locations.
I think we will be pretty early probably. Usually an 8/9 game is within the first couple tips on Thursday
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I forgot to differentiate between SOS and non-conference SOS. It would appear that the committee did indeed award the latter.
Except for Rutgers, who had the 327th hardest non-conference SOS. It would appear they were rewarded for 6 Q1 wins. Still think Xavier was more deserving in that case...much more difficult schedule and 5 Q1 wins.
I don’t think the committee did a good job at all. The Midwest might be the worst region I’ve ever seen. It’s laughably bad
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I’m guessing the opposite, with San Diego State in the pod, my guess is MU is playing Thursday afternoon or morning.
Unless CBS wants the Tarheels in prime time.
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How the hell did Porter Moser not get a 1 seed this year ;D
;D
He likely did in the NIT.
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X got screwed big time
Make an effen FT. Don’t foul up 2 thinking you’re up 3. Don’t totally collapse down the stretch.
X 100% screwed themselves.
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I don’t think the committee did a good job at all. The Midwest might be the worst region I’ve ever seen. It’s laughably bad
UW as the Top 3 is shocking to me.
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Ah, but that I4/ND matchup is TV gold. Who gives a crap about stats and the "science of metrics". X got screwed big time, just glad it wasn't us.
X made their own bed going 7-11 and then losing to Butler in NYC. They have a better resume than ND, but they screwed themselves.
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I don’t think the committee did a good job at all. The Midwest might be the worst region I’ve ever seen. It’s laughably bad
Agreed on the Midwest R. It's bad.
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Unless CBS wants the Tarheels in prime time.
They’ll get Kansas in prime time from the Ft. Worth pod.
Good news is MU will get a decent broadcast crew with two 1 seeds in Ft. Worth.
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Unless CBS wants the Tarheels in prime time.
This. Seems like UNC would get a night game. At least that’s what I’m hoping.
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We should know the game time in roughly 2 hours.
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UNC is a tough draw. Whew. We could have done better….but…. Arwuette can beat them! Gooooooooo Marquette! Be Warriors!
Hopefully, Shaka has the team ready to compete.
The last time we faced UNC in the tournament, Buzz was blown out.
Game was essentially over after the first 5 minutes.
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I’m guessing the opposite, with San Diego State in the pod, my guess is MU is playing Thursday afternoon or morning.
Nothing worse than losing an early Thursday game and just imploding your interest in the next couple days of hoops.
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Ah, but that I4/ND matchup is TV gold. Who gives a crap about stats and the "science of metrics". X got screwed big time, just glad it wasn't us.
I'd say Texas A&M or Oklahoma got a lot more screwed than Xavier. Not sure why Rutgers got a bid from the 9 bid Big 10 either.
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Obviously the matchup isn’t great with regards to their bigs, but my instant thought was that with how thin UNC plays this might be the perfect full court press/havoc style game for Shaka.
Game plan it and come out up tempo both defensively and offensively and turn it into a track meet and hope for the best. If UNC goes down they will chuck up more jumpers trying to get back
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Hopefully coming in as the underdog helps us focus.
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UW as the Top 3 is shocking to me.
I ran the KenPom numbers for the top 10 seeds of each region and the Midwest is 310. The West is 220, South 201 and East 185 (thanks, MUBB).
That’s a staggering amount of blah in the Midwest.
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Nothing worse than losing an early Thursday game and just imploding your interest in the next couple days of hoops.
Yeah, no Friday game.
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Nothing worse than losing an early Thursday game and just imploding your interest in the next couple days of hoops.
This is 100% true.
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UNC sucked for much of the season but finished strong. We’re gonna get killed on the boards, so I hope we’re shooting great.
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TBS get the FF and championship game? WTF
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I ran the KenPom numbers for the top 10 seeds of each region and the Midwest is 310. The West is 220, South 201 and East 185 (thanks, MUBB).
That’s a staggering amount of blah in the Midwest.
Whisky's blah teams draw is egregious.
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UNC sucked for much of the season but finished strong. We’re gonna get killed on the boards, so I hope we’re shooting great.
Everyone kills us on the boards.
I like the match up. UNC looked like an 11 seed to me.
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Obviously the matchup isn’t great with regards to their bigs, but my instant thought was that with how thin UNC plays this might be the perfect full court press/havoc style game for Shaka.
Game plan it and come out up tempo both defensively and offensively and turn it into a track meet and hope for the best. If UNC goes down they will chuck up more jumpers trying to get back
The positive about a team like UNC is that while they have the size advantage and all around talent to smash us. They are also the exact type of team that at any point could have a total clunker(similar to our game at them last year)
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Whisky's blah teans draw is egregious.
I don’t think they can beat Kansas or Auburn should they get that far, so if you’re a hater, I wouldn’t worry.
Everyone makes a big deal out of playing in Milwaukee but they lost there in 2004 against Pitt
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Congratulations to the Marquette team for making the NCAA tourney.
Best of luck against UNC.
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I don’t think they can beat Kansas or Auburn should they get that far, so if you’re a hater, I wouldn’t worry.
Everyone makes a big deal out of playing in Milwaukee but they lost there in 2004 against Pitt
Well the fact that they were the top #3 seed is laughable. A higher overall seed than Tennessee? That's beyond ridiculous.
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Yea… UNC finished really well.
Kicked Duke’s A$$ in Cameron
Gonna be a very short stay for MU.
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Tom Brady back to Tampa.
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Yea… UNC finished really well.
Kicked Duke’s A$$ in Cameron
Gonna be a very short stay for MU.
Then don’t watch. Thanks
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When do the tip times get released? Tonight?
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I don’t think they can beat Kansas or Auburn should they get that far, so if you’re a hater, I wouldn’t worry.
Everyone makes a big deal out of playing in Milwaukee but they lost there in 2004 against Pitt
Madison’s practically getting a pass into the S16. I like to think you’re right about little chance vs Auburn, though.
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X made their own bed going 7-11 and then losing to Butler in NYC. They have a better resume than ND, but they screwed themselves.
Then why all the hype on SOS, Q1 wins/losses and NET rank? Does not pass the smell test. I guess those metrics mean squat if you're not a P5 school like ND, Indiana or Rutgers.
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Madison’s practically getting a pass into the S16. I like to think you’re right about little chance vs Auburn, though.
Maybe. I have a hunch about them losing this week. Could be a tumor, however
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TBS get the FF and championship game? WTF
They pay more of the bill.
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When do the tip times get released? Tonight?
Networks. Announcer crews. Times. All tonight. Around 8:30pm.
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Maybe. I have a hunch about them losing this week. Could be a tumor, however
More locker room cancer in Madison?
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Tom Brady back to Tampa.
WTF?
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Networks. Announcer crews. Times. All tonight. Around 8:30pm.
Ty.
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hope its after 3. my god i hate having record tourney games.
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We open +3.
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Why are people upset that Wisconsin gets good locations? That's what you get for having a good enough regular season to be a protected seed. Hopefully someday soon we'll be playing in Chicago as a top 3 seed too.
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Rico … take a pill
I think MU will lose to NC. In fact I think they will get stomped. I hope I’m wrong
You are welcome to disagree. Leave the insults to the other board. Thx.
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Make an effen FT. Don’t foul up 2 thinking you’re up 3. Don’t totally collapse down the stretch.
X 100% screwed themselves.
..and if they made those FT we (MU) just may be out looking in. We sucked pretty badly of late as well. We were just lucky to get in.
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..and if they made those FT we (MU) just may be out looking in. We sucked pretty badly of late as well. We were just lucky to get in.
wut
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..and if they made those FT we (MU) just may be out looking in. We sucked pretty badly of late as well. We were just lucky to get in.
Wait,
If X makes free throws to beat Butler.
They go from next 4 out.......to in. And MU a 9 seed is the team that gets replaced?
You have set the bar of stupid at unreachable heights.
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..and if they made those FT we (MU) just may be out looking in. We sucked pretty badly of late as well. We were just lucky to get in.
Did you suffer a recent head injury?
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..and if they made those FT we (MU) just may be out looking in. We sucked pretty badly of late as well. We were just lucky to get in.
Ahhh! Gotta love the internet. Just when you think you've read something too stupid to believe, then someone tops it.
Can we discuss how lucky Gonzaga was to make the tournament?
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Everyone kills us on the boards.
I like the match up. UNC looked like an 11 seed to me.
lol. Yeah, sure.
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..and if they made those FT we (MU) just may be out looking in. We sucked pretty badly of late as well. We were just lucky to get in.
Brilliant.
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lol. Yeah, sure.
I was there in Newark (2011) for that disaster of a game in the Sweet 16. I hope Marquette delivers a more enjoyable experience for me this time. These tickets are not cheap! lol
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I was there in Newark (2011) for that disaster of a game in the Sweet 16. I hope Marquette delivers a more enjoyable experience for me this time. These tickets are not cheap! lol
How is the arena? Seems an odd place for an NCAA game. I assumed it was at the Mavericks place.
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Ahhh! Gotta love the internet. Just when you think you've read something too stupid to believe, then someone tops it.
Can we discuss how lucky Gonzaga was to make the tournament?
Mid major.
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Why are people upset that Wisconsin gets good locations? That's what you get for having a good enough regular season to be a protected seed. Hopefully someday soon we'll be playing in Chicago as a top 3 seed too.
I don't know about others, but I'm not upset at all about Wisconsin getting Milwaukee. Anybody with half a brain expected it. I hate to admit it, but Madison earned it. I do think they got a relatively easy draw, but who knows.
I was less thrilled that South Carolina, a 7-seed, got to play us in South Carolina a few years back.
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That SC team had a helluva defense.
I think they went to the final 4.
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I don't know about others, but I'm not upset at all about Wisconsin getting Milwaukee. Anybody with half a brain expected it. I hate to admit it, but Madison earned it. I do think they got a relatively easy draw, but who knows.
I was less thrilled that South Carolina, a 7-seed, got to play us in South Carolina a few years back.
I think being in Chicago for the Regional is more head scratching.
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I don't know about others, but I'm not upset at all about Wisconsin getting Milwaukee. Anybody with half a brain expected it. I hate to admit it, but Madison earned it. I do think they got a relatively easy draw, but who knows.
I was less thrilled that South Carolina, a 7-seed, got to play us in South Carolina a few years back.
They 100% earned Milwaukee. That was a foregone conclusion. I thought they caught a break also getting Chicago for sweet sixteen. It’s unfair to Auburn to have to play a road game against a team seeded lower than them. Also caught a break playing a team in the second round who just had their coach fired. The badgers got a lot of breaks. Doesn’t mean it will work out for them though.
Although, Michigan to Indianapolis (especially without a stop in Dayton) is the biggest joke in the tournament.
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That SC team had a helluva defense.
I think they went to the final 4.
Yep. They beat Duke after beating us.
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Ahhh! Gotta love the internet. Just when you think you've read something too stupid to believe, then someone tops it.
Can we discuss how lucky Gonzaga was to make the tournament?
Thank goodness they earned the automatic bid from the WCC.
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How is the arena? Seems an odd place for an NCAA game. I assumed it was at the Mavericks place.
It's brand new and seats just 14,000 people for hoops. Due to the pandemic very few BB games have been played there. It's been mainly used for rodeo and concert related events. Ft. Worth is 32 miles west of Dallas. The Mavs play in a much larger arena - American Airlines Center - and share it with the Stars. Arlington is 25 miles west of Dallas and has a sports complex that plays host to both the Cowboys and Rangers. The MLS soccer team is way out in the burbs an hour north of Dallas. It's quite an interesting set up here for sports - to say the least. I've never seen anything comparable.
I think Ft. Worth landed the NCAA bid as part of its agreement to build a new arena downtown. It's a great city, but obviously doesn't serve as the home of any professional sports teams.
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LSU will be tough for Wisconsin. First one to 50 wins.
And hopefully Auburn is there in the Sweet 16. I think they slice through that region.
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Dickies Arena. Newer arena. It's where the AAC tournament was this weekend.
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Marquette will be at 3:30pm on TBS.
Brian Anderson, Jim Jackson and Allie LaForce.
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Must’ve missed it on the announcement show, but when’s Oklahoma playing? 👀
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Marquette will be at 3:30pm.
Central? Ughhh.
Looks like another 40 hrs of work Mon-Wed.
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Marquette will be at 3:30pm on TBS.
Brian Anderson, Jim Jackson and Allie LaForce.
CST?
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Yes. I also list Central times.
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Marquette will be at 3:30pm on TBS.
Brian Anderson, Jim Jackson and Allie LaForce.
Yup, was always likely MU was playing in the first set of the pod based on the teams there.
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Yes. I also list Central times.
Are all the times out?
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Yes. I also list Central times.
Can confirm. Nielsen always posts in Marquette Standard Time.
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Are all the times out?
They're starting to show up on ESPN...
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/scoreboard/_/date/20220317
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As expected, Thursday afternoon so I can be disappointed early.
Hopefully they'll prove me wrong.
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Are all the times out?
Yes. Big East Games are listed in the top pinned thread.
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Man people are downers. Yes, the team has stunk as the schedule finally lightened up. Yes, we’re more likely to lose Thursday than make a run. But we’re freaking dancing in a year we probably shouldn’t have, and most didn’t think we would have.
Why are people already dreading what hasn’t happened? Enjoy the ride and when it’s over feel down.
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This is not the UNC teams of yesteryear. Everyone needs to calm down. I think while the East is a super tough overall region, we did about as well as we could because Baylor is not healthy.
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Yes, we’re more likely to lose Thursday than make a run.
Honestly, it's pretty much a toss-up. So I'm gonna call you a downer too!
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Man people are downers. Yes, the team has stunk as the schedule finally lightened up. Yes, we’re more likely to lose Thursday than make a run. But we’re freaking dancing in a year we probably shouldn’t have, and most didn’t think we would have.
Why are people already dreading what hasn’t happened? Enjoy the ride and when it’s over feel down.
Scoop is filled with ...
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We're due to have a breakout game from distance.
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I obviously want us to win Thursday but this season has already far exceeded my expectations.
If we come up short I’ll definitely be disappointed but am going to do my best to let that go after an hour or two and enjoy the rest of the tourney.
And I’m certainly going to enjoy the next few days much more than I would have if we didn’t make it, which is what most of us expected, including myself, at the beginning of the season.
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How is the arena? Seems an odd place for an NCAA game. I assumed it was at the Mavericks place.
Don't know about the arena (apparently brand new) but Fort Worth is the 13 largest city in America.
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Maybe I’ve read the wrong posts but I don’t see a majority talking doom and gloom. You see what you look for I guess
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Yes. Big East Games are listed in the top pinned thread.
Is this something new that you are doing for the tourney??? 😜
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Am I reading this right, that the Milwaukee games don’t start until Noon? I’m used to them being at 11/11:30 central time. That hour can make a difference, driving back to Chicago.
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Or is it at 1, which is even worse for the evening games?
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Must’ve missed it on the announcement show, but when’s Oklahoma playing? 👀
Need to move to NIT show
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Or is it at 1, which is even worse for the evening games?
I see 1pm CT, UW game starting at 8:50pm CT.
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Ok looking at that television schedule, it shows the games in Milwaukee as 1 and 3:30 pm. Then the evening at 6:20 and 8:50. But presumably the 3:30 game wouldn’t end until 5:30 - how can you clear the arena and readmit people in less than an hour? Am I reading that right?
I feel like I must be missing something somewhere.
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Ok looking at that television schedule, it shows the games in Milwaukee as 1 and 3:30 pm. Then the evening at 6:20 and 8:50. But presumably the 3:30 game wouldn’t end until 5:30 - how can you clear the arena and readmit people in less than an hour? Am I reading that right?
I feel like I must be missing something somewhere.
You are reading it correctly. Happens alot on west coast sites for years. It's been more common with the CBS/Turner partnership as the start times in four sites don't start all at once in day sessions no longer.
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Gosh I miss the 11-11:30 starts, with the nice gap in between.
Perhaps we will opt to sell the evening session, that would pay for the other tickets. We have decisions to make.
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Don't know about the arena (apparently brand new) but Fort Worth is the 13 largest city in America.
DFW is the fourth largest market in the country with over 7.5 million people. I live and work right next to Ft. Worth and the city has a much smaller town feel than many of the large cities I've visited. DFW is really spread out, just like everything else in Texas. The downtown Ft. Worth area has a nice, slow vibe to it. It's nowhere near the hustle and bustle of Dallas.
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I don’t think they can beat Kansas or Auburn should they get that far, so if you’re a hater, I wouldn’t worry.
Everyone makes a big deal out of playing in Milwaukee but they lost there in 2004 against Pitt
with that draw, RED goin’ Elite 8. Dang! Milwaukee will be a sea of red…Playing on our court? Dang! Likely have to pull for Kansas & the cheaters to beat them? Dang!
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I don't know about others, but I'm not upset at all about Wisconsin getting Milwaukee. Anybody with half a brain expected it. I hate to admit it, but Madison earned it. I do think they got a relatively easy draw, but who knows.
I was less thrilled that South Carolina, a 7-seed, got to play us in South Carolina a few years back.
if you lived here (Mke), you’d understand. Its an insufferable fan base. Rocking Fiserv in RED. A legit shot at a 4th Final4 since ‘00. UW alums I know have hammered me this evening with texts.
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if you lived here (Mke), you’d understand. Its an insufferable fan base. Rocking Fiserv in RED. A legit shot at a 4th Final4 since ‘00. UW alums I know have hammered me this evening with texts.
The Walmart Badgers are insufferable. The actual alumni I've never had a problem with.
Regardless, I sure hope Rico is right. Them making another deep run would be rough to sit through here.
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Did you suffer a recent head injury?
Why the name calling? Our NET ranks are similar with X:41 MU:43, we split the season, Quad 1 record similar with MU 5-7 and X 5-8. Over all records MU 19-12 and X 18-13. If they beat Butler the records would be identical. The committee could have easily picked X over MU while picking Rutgers, Indiana and ND. All I am saying is that the metrics don't mean much as to who is in or out. Indiana and Notre Dame have more name recognition which is why I believe they got in.
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The Walmart Badgers are insufferable. The actual alumni I've never had a problem with.
Regardless, I sure hope Rico is right. Them making another deep run would be rough to sit through here.
Walmart Badger fans are the loudest and worst. The responses one gets when asking what year they graduated are always fun.
Johnny Davis is the difference maker but they’re not a good shooting team, even with him at 100%. The defense isn’t that great either.
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I'm not sure why everyone is saying Wisconsin got a great draw. Geography wise, sure it was a dream.
But based on KenPom rankings, Colgate is the toughest 14 seed. They're a great 3 point shooting team. If they get hot, anything can happen.
LSU is the 2nd highest 6 seed in KenPom. Sure, the coach just got fired. Could be a huge distraction or it could be a galvanizing event that makes them play with a huge chip on their shoulder. And LSU has an absolutely filthy defense. I expect a low scoring rock fight.
Then you have Auburn. Jabari Smith is one of the most dynamic scorers in college and Walker Kessler is an elite rim protector. I think they are a much tougher 2 seed than Duke and Villanova.
And Kansas has a very favorable draw in the top of the bracket. They have a great chance to make the regional final.
Sure, Wisconsin could go on a run but they could just as easily in any round.
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The Walmart Badgers are insufferable. The actual alumni I've never had a problem with.
Regardless, I sure hope Rico is right. Them making another deep run would be rough to sit through here.
I think Wisconsin is going to be back to the Final Four. They get 2 home games against not great teams. Then a regional in Chicago. It is going to be another brutal run to sit through.
As far as Marquette. If they beat UNC there is a real path to the Elite 8. Baylor is injured and only about 6 or 7 deep right now and we've already seen UCLA. Getting that 1st win since 2013 is the toughest one, but if they can get the 1st it's a realistic path.
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Relax, Bucky won’t make it past auburn.
Being in COLE, one must also have to believe the Badgers are unbeatable.
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if you lived here (Mke), you’d understand. Its an insufferable fan base. Rocking Fiserv in RED. A legit shot at a 4th Final4 since ‘00. UW alums I know have hammered me this evening with texts.
I don't need to live there to understand. All I said is that anybody with half a brain expected it to happen, so getting upset about it is silly.
I look forward to them losing to LSU, if not Colgate.
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BTW, Kansas fans will take over Chicago. Don't assume a Badger home game in the regional final.
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I am looking forward to MU playing on Thursday. It has been a long drought and extremely happy the guys are in the tournament.
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As far as Marquette. If they beat UNC there is a real path to the Elite 8. Baylor is injured and only about 6 or 7 deep right now and we've already seen UCLA. Getting that 1st win since 2013 is the toughest one, but if they can get the 1st it's a realistic path.
Perhaps I'll be proven wrong, but I think anyone that picks against Baylor this weekend is dumb. They've still been pretty lethal without Cryer.
But, lets take care of UNC and test that theory!
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I stole this from Twitter, so not sure if the numbers are correct, but seems to add up.
Since Marquette's last win in the NCAA Tournament (2013), UNC has won 17 NCAA Tournament games including a Championship.
Shaka Smart also has not won an NCAA Tournament Game since '14-'15 with VCU. Both Marquette and Shaka looking to end droughts.
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I don't need to live there to understand. All I said is that anybody with half a brain expected it to happen, so getting upset about it is silly.
I look forward to them losing to LSU, if not Colgate.
Marquette over UNC; Colgate over RED. Perfection!
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I stole this from Twitter, so not sure if the numbers are correct, but seems to add up.
Since Marquette's last win in the NCAA Tournament (2013), UNC has won 17 NCAA Tournament games including a Championship.
Shaka Smart also has not won an NCAA Tournament Game since '14-'15 with VCU. Both Marquette and Shaka looking to end droughts.
Shaka hasn't won since 12-13 (Marquette and Shaka share the same win drought). 17 wins checks out for UNC since 13-14.
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I am looking forward to MU playing on Thursday. It has been a long drought and extremely happy the guys are in the tournament.
Same Goose. The matchup scares me a bit at least on a brand level (meaning, perhaps I am putting too much stock in them just based on name). If you'd have asked me at the end of January I would have loved this matchup given the play at the time by both teams. Today I am less sure. But I definitely agree that I am extremely happy the team is in the tournament and look forward to seeing them leave it all out there in the end.
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Well, if history is any indication Marquette is going to a final four this year.
Potential elite eight matchup with a heavily favorite Kentucky with the final four being in New Orleans?
Start packing your bags fellas.
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I am looking forward to MU playing on Thursday. It has been a long drought and extremely happy the guys are in the tournament.
A one-year drought.
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Walmart Badger fans are the loudest and worst. The responses one gets when asking what year they graduated are always fun.
Johnny Davis is the difference maker but they’re not a good shooting team, even with him at 100%. The defense isn’t that great either.
They'll be underdogs vs. LSU if LSU advances. But they'll walk to the S16 if ISU can get past LSU.
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Shaka hasn't won since 12-13 (Marquette and Shaka share the same win drought). 17 wins checks out for UNC since 13-14.
According to VCU Basketball Reference page, Shaka went to 5 straight tournaments with VCU and never lost a 1st round game. It says lost in 2nd round in '14-'15.
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There was a period of time where the r64 was called the second round because the Dayton games were called the first round. Only lasted for a few years because it was confusing. Don’t know if that is causing the confusion in this discussion.
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There was a period of time where the r64 was called the second round because the Dayton games were called the first round. Only lasted for a few years because it was confusing. Don’t know if that is causing the confusion in this discussion.
Looks like that's it. Thanks!
What a stupid thing to do. Glad they changed that haha
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There was a period of time where the r64 was called the second round because the Dayton games were called the first round. Only lasted for a few years because it was confusing. Don’t know if that is causing the confusion in this discussion.
Yup. They eliminated that a few years back
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There was a period of time where the r64 was called the second round because the Dayton games were called the first round. Only lasted for a few years because it was confusing. Don’t know if that is causing the confusion in this discussion.
This is likely the cause of the confusion. Shaka hasn't won a tournament game since 2013 when VCU beat Akron by 46.
He's had some crazy losses since then. In fact, every tournament loss since 2013 has been a crazy ending.
2014 - Lost to SFA in OT. Up four in regulation with 5 seconds left, gave up a 4 point play after fouling a 3 point shooter.
2015 - missed a floater at the buzzer, lost by 3 in OT to Ohio State
2016 - tied the game with under 5 seconds left, lost on a banked in half-court buzzer beater.
2018 - came back from down 13 against Nevada, had the lead with five seconds left, went to OT, lost.
2021 - Lost to ACU on two free throws with one second remaining.
We might be in for a barnburner on Thursday.
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This is likely the cause of the confusion. Shaka hasn't won a tournament game since 2013 when VCU beat Akron by 46.
He's had some crazy losses since then. In fact, every tournament loss since 2013 has been a crazy ending.
2014 - Lost to SFA in OT. Up four in regulation with 5 seconds left, gave up a 4 point play after fouling a 3 point shooter.
2015 - missed a floater at the buzzer, lost by 3 in OT to Ohio State
2016 - tied the game with under 5 seconds left, lost on a banked in half-court buzzer beater.
2018 - came back from down 13 against Nevada, had the lead with five seconds left, went to OT, lost.
2021 - Lost to ACU on two free throws with one second remaining.
We might be in for a barnburner on Thursday.
So Thursday we can look forward to pain. Maximum pain.
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Why the name calling? Our NET ranks are similar with X:41 MU:43, we split the season, Quad 1 record similar with MU 5-7 and X 5-8. Over all records MU 19-12 and X 18-13. If they beat Butler the records would be identical. The committee could have easily picked X over MU while picking Rutgers, Indiana and ND. All I am saying is that the metrics don't mean much as to who is in or out. Indiana and Notre Dame have more name recognition which is why I believe they got in.
Dude, please stop with the stupid.
Selection does not even remotely work like that.
You think that MU is a 9 seed(solidly ahead of like 12 teams) but if X wins a game against Butler, we get passed by all the teams that we are currently in front of because X.........won? And not those teams.
Im not trying to be mean, I need you to please sit and think about how truly idiotic that sounds.
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Better than being crushed by Murray State before the game even started....
This is likely the cause of the confusion. Shaka hasn't won a tournament game since 2013 when VCU beat Akron by 46.
He's had some crazy losses since then. In fact, every tournament loss since 2013 has been a crazy ending.
2014 - Lost to SFA in OT. Up four in regulation with 5 seconds left, gave up a 4 point play after fouling a 3 point shooter.
2015 - missed a floater at the buzzer, lost by 3 in OT to Ohio State
2016 - tied the game with under 5 seconds left, lost on a banked in half-court buzzer beater.
2018 - came back from down 13 against Nevada, had the lead with five seconds left, went to OT, lost.
2021 - Lost to ACU on two free throws with one second remaining.
We might be in for a barnburner on Thursday.
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Better than being crushed by Murray State before the game even started....
Why the hyperbole? We were in that game for the first 2 minuets.
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Why the hyperbole? We were in that game for the first 2 minuets.
Marquette was winning that game with under 7 to play in the first half. It was a 2-point game with under 1:30 to play in the half.
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Marquette was winning that game with under 7 to play in the first half. It was a 2-point game with under 1:30 to play in the half.
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Marquette was winning that game with under 7 to play in the first half. It was a 2-point game with under 1:30 to play in the half.
It was close on the scoreboard but it was pretty clear watching that game that Murray State was going to run away with it at some point. They created an open shot nearly every possession.
The 2017 SC game is the one that most scoopers have rewritten in their heads. Sure the final score was ugly, but MU was winning at halftime and down only 1 with 11 minutes left. South Carolina took their first double digit lead with five minutes left.
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It was close on the scoreboard but it was pretty clear watching that game that Murray State was going to run away with it at some point. They created an open shot nearly every possession.
The 2017 SC game is the one that most scoopers have rewritten in their heads. Sure the final score was ugly, but MU was winning at halftime and down only 1 with 11 minutes left. South Carolina took their first double digit lead with five minutes left.
Yeah i remember being positive at halftime and being confused when it all came apart
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BTW, Kansas fans will take over Chicago. Don't assume a Badger home game in the regional final.
Those must be some committed fans showing up in Chicago even after their team loses in the round of 32.
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Those must be some committed fans showing up in Chicago even after their team loses in the round of 32.
McCormack is gonna kill Kalkbrenner
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Marquette was winning that game with under 7 to play in the first half. It was a 2-point game with under 1:30 to play in the half.
I was joking. Should have used teal.
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McCormack is gonna kill Kalkbrenner
I don't think Creighton gets past SDSU without Nembhard. But I've been wrong about them pretty much all year.
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I don't think Creighton gets past SDSU without Nembhard. But I've been wrong about them pretty much all year.
That game might be a rock fight. SDSU is no joke on defense
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Yup expecting a low scoring game but luckily Creighton has had a ton of those this year. 2 top 20 defenses/sub 125 offenses.
Mostly being cheeky about being KU but like a lot of Marquette fans just happy to be in the tournament. Low expectations with all the player turnover.
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That game might be a rock fight. SDSU is no joke on defense
No joke on defense and loves to slow it down. Pretty sure if they are winning by 5-6 with under 5 left, Dutcher is content not scoring again.
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Quick preview video on all 68 teams.
https://youtu.be/d8qWC_TzIR4
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Quick preview video on all 68 teams.
https://youtu.be/d8qWC_TzIR4
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No ads when I view. You getting served Arby's ads?
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Dude, please stop with the stupid.
Selection does not even remotely work like that.
You think that MU is a 9 seed(solidly ahead of like 12 teams) but if X wins a game against Butler, we get passed by all the teams that we are currently in front of because X.........won? And not those teams.
Im not trying to be mean, I need you to please sit and think about how truly idiotic that sounds.
...and X was not solidly ahead of 12 teams like Indiana, ND and Rutgers? Explain that to me. Please stop with the name calling. I'm really trying to be respectful.
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No ads when I view. You getting served Arby's ads?
No, I got served a two minute KenPom ad. You didn’t notice?
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No, I got served a two minute KenPom ad. You didn’t notice?
I'm guessing Blackheart is all fancy and has YouTube premium. BTW, I think it's worth it - avoid ads and get YouTube music to boot - good deal!
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...and X was not solidly ahead of 12 teams like Indiana, ND and Rutgers? Explain that to me. Please stop with the name calling. I'm really trying to be respectful.
Considering X wasnt even on the 1st four out, they very clearly were not solidy ahead of any of the teams or even remotely close to us. You suggesting that them simply beating Butler would have them swapped in for us a 9 seed and not any of the other 15ish teams between us, is quite literally the dumbest and most insane thing ever said on this board.
Its so damn outlandish I can't even begin to think how someone could even come to this conclusion. Its so damn outlandish that even someone trolling wouldnt say it because of how bad of a take it is.
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I'm guessing Blackheart is all fancy and has YouTube premium. BTW, I think it's worth it - avoid ads and get YouTube music to boot - good deal!
That was the heart of my semi-serious beef. The video itself included an extended plug for KenPom at the front. It was part of the content — not an actual ad.
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That was the heart of my semi-serious beef. The video itself included an extended plug for KenPom at the front. It was part of the content — not an actual ad.
Hah! I didn't even watch far enough in to see that.
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Why the name calling? Our NET ranks are similar with X:41 MU:43, we split the season, Quad 1 record similar with MU 5-7 and X 5-8. Over all records MU 19-12 and X 18-13. If they beat Butler the records would be identical. The committee could have easily picked X over MU while picking Rutgers, Indiana and ND. All I am saying is that the metrics don't mean much as to who is in or out. Indiana and Notre Dame have more name recognition which is why I believe they got in.
I didn’t call you a name. I’m wondering if there’s another explanation for your post. It’s just completely devoid of any logic whatsoever. Marquette was nowhere near the bubble and apparently Xavier wasn’t that close to the field. There’s literally zero way Marquette was going to fall out of the field based on a different result in one game.
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The two big flaws in Xavier's resume:
Zero Q1A wins.
Two Q3 losses.
Marquette had four Q1A wins and no Q3 losses. So even though the records and metrics were similar, Marquette had a much stronger resume.
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That was the heart of my semi-serious beef. The video itself included an extended plug for KenPom at the front. It was part of the content — not an actual ad.
Yeah, he went a little long sourcing KPom. I just slid by it.
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And again, X has ZERO reason to beef. They completely collapsed down the stretch and yet they still had a chance to take a major step toward saving their NCAAT chances but they couldn't make a freakin' FT and their best player had a major brain fart that basically cost them the game.
They were solidly in the tournament a few weeks ago. It was entirely in their hands. They slowly pissed it away and they ultimately blew it. Period.
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Spot-on. If you go 13-29 from the line you cannot complain about anything.
I don't like the play-in games but if they have to exist, I think it would be much better if none of the four teams were from Power 6 conferences.. The most exciting thing about the tournament, especially for the casual viewers, are David's beating Goliath's in the early rounds. So let the teams that don't get in very often occupy the 65-68 spots. No one wants to see crappy teams from the B14 or ACC with golden tickets.
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...and X was not solidly ahead of 12 teams like Indiana, ND and Rutgers? Explain that to me. Please stop with the name calling. I'm really trying to be respectful.
You claimed that Marquette was lucky that X lost to Butler in the BET because they may have been left out of the NCAAT if that hadn't happened. The loss to Butler keeping X out isn't the part people are reacting to, it's the Marquette would be knocked out part.
Maybe you don't know this, but when the selection committee does seeding, they use something called an s-curve where they literally rank all the teams from 1-68. They ranked us as a 9 seed, which means that at worst, they saw us as the 36th best team in the country. Behind us there were:
37th-40th (10 seeds): Davidson, San Francisco, Miami (FL), Loyola (IL)
41st-43rd (non-play-in 11 seeds): Virginia Tech (Auto-Bid), Iowa State, Michigan
44th-45th (play-in 11 seeds): Rutgers, Notre Dame
46th-47th (play-in 12 seeds): Wyoming, Indiana
That's where the at large bids stop and the NIT bids begin. The committee further ranked below us (not including the auto-bids in the NCAAT):
48th-51st (NIT 1 seeds): Dayton, Oklahoma, SMU, TAMU
52nd-55th (NIT 2 seeds): North Texas, BYU, Wake Forest, Xavier
So the absolute closest Marquette and Xavier were on the s-curve together was 36th (worst 9 seed) and 52nd (best NIT 2 seed). You are correct that beating Butler would have raised Xavier on the s-curve. I personally doubt that it would have raised them to 47th to make the tournament, let alone 36th to pass Marquette, but let's just say that the Butler win was that valuable and they jumped all the way to 36th. Marquette doesn't get bounced out of the tournament. Instead, they fall all the way to...37th making them a 10 seed (assuming we are the worst 9 seed). The team that would have been bumped out of the tournament was either Wyoming or Indiana as the last two teams to make it into the NCAAT this year.
So, no, Marquette does not need to be thankful that Xavier lost to Butler. Indiana and Wyoming may need to be thankful for it, though I personally doubt it.
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You claimed that Marquette was lucky that X lost to Butler in the BET because they may have been left out of the NCAAT if that hadn't happened. The loss to Butler keeping X out isn't the part people are reacting to, it's the Marquette would be knocked out part.
Maybe you don't know this, but when the selection committee does seeding, they use something called an s-curve where they literally rank all the teams from 1-68. They ranked us as a 9 seed, which means that at worst, they saw us as the 36th best team in the country. Behind us there were:
37th-40th (10 seeds): Davidson, San Francisco, Miami (FL), Loyola (IL)
41st-43rd (non-play-in 11 seeds): Virginia Tech (Auto-Bid), Iowa State, Michigan
44th-45th (play-in 11 seeds): Rutgers, Notre Dame
46th-47th (play-in 12 seeds): Wyoming, Indiana
That's where the at large bids stop and the NIT bids begin. The committee further ranked below us (not including the auto-bids in the NCAAT):
48th-51st (NIT 1 seeds): Dayton, Oklahoma, SMU, TAMU
52nd-55th (NIT 2 seeds): North Texas, BYU, Wake Forest, Xavier
So the absolute closest Marquette and Xavier were on the s-curve together was 36th (worst 9 seed) and 52nd (best NIT 2 seed). You are correct that beating Butler would have raised Xavier on the s-curve. I personally doubt that it would have raised them to 47th to make the tournament, let alone 36th to pass Marquette, but let's just say that the Butler win was that valuable and they jumped all the way to 36th. Marquette doesn't get bounced out of the tournament. Instead, they fall all the way to...37th making them a 10 seed (assuming we are the worst 9 seed). The team that would have been bumped out of the tournament was either Wyoming or Indiana as the last two teams to make it into the NCAAT this year.
So, no, Marquette does not need to be thankful that Xavier lost to Butler. Indiana and Wyoming may need to be thankful for it, though I personally doubt it.
TAMU I don't think he will understand how it works.
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Norlander reporting some teams (Colorado State in particular) are having trouble getting information from the NCAA on their travel schedule. CSU still doesn’t have a confirmed flight.
NCAA pays for team charters for the tournament.
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You claimed that Marquette was lucky that X lost to Butler in the BET because they may have been left out of the NCAAT if that hadn't happened. The loss to Butler keeping X out isn't the part people are reacting to, it's the Marquette would be knocked out part.
Maybe you don't know this, but when the selection committee does seeding, they use something called an s-curve where they literally rank all the teams from 1-68. They ranked us as a 9 seed, which means that at worst, they saw us as the 36th best team in the country. Behind us there were:
37th-40th (10 seeds): Davidson, San Francisco, Miami (FL), Loyola (IL)
41st-43rd (non-play-in 11 seeds): Virginia Tech (Auto-Bid), Iowa State, Michigan
44th-45th (play-in 11 seeds): Rutgers, Notre Dame
46th-47th (play-in 12 seeds): Wyoming, Indiana
That's where the at large bids stop and the NIT bids begin. The committee further ranked below us (not including the auto-bids in the NCAAT):
48th-51st (NIT 1 seeds): Dayton, Oklahoma, SMU, TAMU
52nd-55th (NIT 2 seeds): North Texas, BYU, Wake Forest, Xavier
So the absolute closest Marquette and Xavier were on the s-curve together was 36th (worst 9 seed) and 52nd (best NIT 2 seed). You are correct that beating Butler would have raised Xavier on the s-curve. I personally doubt that it would have raised them to 47th to make the tournament, let alone 36th to pass Marquette, but let's just say that the Butler win was that valuable and they jumped all the way to 36th. Marquette doesn't get bounced out of the tournament. Instead, they fall all the way to...37th making them a 10 seed (assuming we are the worst 9 seed). The team that would have been bumped out of the tournament was either Wyoming or Indiana as the last two teams to make it into the NCAAT this year.
So, no, Marquette does not need to be thankful that Xavier lost to Butler. Indiana and Wyoming may need to be thankful for it, though I personally doubt it.
Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps next season we should use the s-curve and not just NET ranks as measurement where will be in relation to all the other teams. Also how is that s-curve calculated?
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Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps next season we should use the s-curve and not just NET ranks as measurement where will be in relation to all the other teams. Also how is that s-curve calculated?
No one sees the official S-Curve until Selection Sunday. And the S-Curve isn't calculated, it's how the Selection Committee ordered the teams after looking at all the data.
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Marquette over UNC; Colgate over RED. Perfection!
Play da game, knot da name, hey?
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This is likely the cause of the confusion. Shaka hasn't won a tournament game since 2013 when VCU beat Akron by 46.
He's had some crazy losses since then. In fact, every tournament loss since 2013 has been a crazy ending.
2014 - Lost to SFA in OT. Up four in regulation with 5 seconds left, gave up a 4 point play after fouling a 3 point shooter.
2015 - missed a floater at the buzzer, lost by 3 in OT to Ohio State
2016 - tied the game with under 5 seconds left, lost on a banked in half-court buzzer beater.
2018 - came back from down 13 against Nevada, had the lead with five seconds left, went to OT, lost.
2021 - Lost to ACU on two free throws with one second remaining.
We might be in for a barnburner on Thursday.
It's not just Shaka's recent tourney history pointing to a nailbiter, check out his history against UNC:
2015: Javan Felix hits a jumper at the buzzer and Texas wins 84-82.
2018: North Carolina tries to rally late but comes up short as Texas wins 92-89.
2020: Matt Coleman's step back jumper with 0.1 left allows Texas to win 69-67.
Suffice to say, their fans are probably tired of losing close games to Shaka.
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Norlander reporting some teams (Colorado State in particular) are having trouble getting information from the NCAA on their travel schedule. CSU still doesn’t have a confirmed flight.
NCAA pays for team charters for the tournament.
Found out this week that the NCAA doesn't find practice facilities for the teams, besides the 45 minute open practice the day before the games. Teams have to find their own other practice times and facilities.
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Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps next season we should use the s-curve and not just NET ranks as measurement where will be in relation to all the other teams. Also how is that s-curve calculated?
The s-curve isn't calculated. The committee discusses and as a group decides where teams belong on the s-curve. The NET is one measure of several that the committee looks at when judging teams. Xavier's resume was significantly worse than Marquette's.
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The s-curve isn't calculated. The committee discusses and as a group decides where teams belong on the s-curve. The NET is one measure of several that the committee looks at when judging teams. Xavier's resume was significantly worse than Marquette's.
Every ranking system has some sort of flaws, but when you put them all together, the average is a pretty good indicator. I think its called wisdom of crowds.
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Happy National “wait, what channel is TruTv again?” Day.
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Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps next season we should use the s-curve and not just NET ranks as measurement where will be in relation to all the other teams. Also how is that s-curve calculated?
Numerous observers put together and regularly update NCAAT s-curves, including our own brew. Very easy to find if you want to look.
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Liked the Selection Show used the AL coined phrase Big Dance in Billboards on the show.
Also Tom Crean 5/9 Big Dance MU Years. Tom Crean 4/14 Big Dance After MU Years. Buzz 5/6 Big Dance MU Years. Buzz 3/8 Big Dance After MU Years.
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Also how is that s-curve calculated?
S(x) =min+ (max-min) * {(1 /(1+exp(-k(x-x0)))^a}
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Making conference winners play in the First Four games sucks. Put them in the 64 and send the last eight at-large teams to Dayton.
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Making conference winners play in the First Four games sucks. Put them in the 64 and send the last eight at-large teams to Dayton.
Here. Here!
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DFW is the fourth largest market in the country with over 7.5 million people. I live and work right next to Ft. Worth and the city has a much smaller town feel than many of the large cities I've visited. DFW is really spread out, just like everything else in Texas. The downtown Ft. Worth area has a nice, slow vibe to it. It's nowhere near the hustle and bustle of Dallas.
Brad - any Fort Worth advice for visitors from the north? Places to see, things to do, recommended dining establishments, especially downtown, places to avoid?
The Sheraton Fort Worth Downtown Hotel is the Marquette hotel, for those who didn't get the emails today. Team sendoff set for 1:30 p.m. Thursday. Shuttle buses to Dickie's Arena, but it looks like it's only a mile walk.
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Ahhhhh Send-off was 1:15 pm TODAY... Leaving 1:15 on Thurs for a 7pm game would be cutting it close ! ! ! lol 8-)
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First, the game is at 3:30pm (double check your Thursday schedule).
Second, I have no doubt they'll leave their hotel at about 1:30pm on Thursday with a send-off party to get to the arena in plenty of time.
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First, the game is at 3:30pm (double check your Thursday schedule).
Second, I have no doubt they'll leave their hotel at about 1:30pm on Thursday with a send-off party to get to the area in plenty of time.
DUHHHHHH... OOPPSS I misread it!!!! I need more reading comprehension classes ! ! ! 8-)
I couldn't delete it so I deleted the content...lol ;D
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OOPPSS I misread it!!!!
No worries, I assumed some context confusion. Just want to make sure you turn on the game in time on Thur!
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Wyoming over IU?
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Making conference winners play in the First Four games sucks. Put them in the 64 and send the last eight at-large teams to Dayton.
On the one hand, I agree.
On the other, Texas Southern sure looked happy moving their name on the big board after the win. Playing today gave them an NCAA moment to celebrate.
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On the other, Texas Southern sure looked happy moving their name on the big board after the win. Playing today gave them an NCAA moment to celebrate.
Right, because it sure beats the other option, not getting a chance to play on Thur or Fri!
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Brad - any Fort Worth advice for visitors from the north? Places to see, things to do, recommended dining establishments, especially downtown, places to avoid?
The Sheraton Fort Worth Downtown Hotel is the Marquette hotel, for those who didn't get the emails today. Team sendoff set for 1:30 p.m. Thursday. Shuttle buses to Dickie's Arena, but it looks like it's only a mile walk.
Lived in DFW for 13 years...Fort Worth for 7. Great steak place and rooftop patio bar called Reata is a must stop. MiCocina is a GREAT Tex-Mex restaurant. Flying Saucer is a good beer joint. Scat Lounge is a great little jazz bar. Del Frisco's and Bob's Steak and Chop House are very good steak joints too. There's a fun bar restaurant district just about 1 mile west of downtown known as West 7th (7th Street). Good local Mexican food joint called Chimy's in that area.
The Stockyards are another area to visit. Joe T Garcia's is a famous Tex-Mex restaurant. Billy Bob's Texas..a famous country/honky tonk bar is in that area too.
In summary there are a ton of great restaurants, bars, and things to do all within a couple of miles of downtown FW. Enjoy.
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This Tru TV studio crew is a ROUGH watch and listen.
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Indiana cannot make a lay up to save their lives(season)
THey are obnoxiously more gifted than Wyoming and can get any shot they want. These misses are embarrassing though.
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Found out this week that the NCAA doesn't find practice facilities for the teams, besides the 45 minute open practice the day before the games. Teams have to find their own other practice times and facilities.
I hope MU graciously offerred the Al to Colgate.
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Indiana cannot make a lay up to save their lives(season)
THey are obnoxiously more gifted than Wyoming and can get any shot they want. These misses are embarrassing though.
Wyoming is not good. Wow just wow.
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Wyoming is not good. Wow just wow.
Dont matter. Indiana is actively doing everything they can to keep them in it.
Galloway playing like a legit psychopath on speed.
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Dont matter. Indiana is actively doing everything they can to keep them in it.
Galloway playing like a legit psychopath on speed.
First to 35?
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Race Thompson should quit basketball
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Indiana should beat this team by 25.
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Wyoming has absolutely 0 answer for TJD.
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Wyoming’s “offense” is hard to watch.
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Remember all the hype about Tamar Bates? Kam Jones is better.
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Indiana should beat this team by 25.
It won't! The Big Ten has plenty to prove this year after completely fizzling in last year's tournament.
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It won't! The Big Ten has plenty to prove this year after completely fizzling in last year's tournament.
I hope you're right. Wyoming is tough to watch.
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Does PGs have money on Indiana -4?
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Wyoming live moneyline is interesting at +280.
I’m guessing everyone and their mom played Cleveland State +11.5 tonight.
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Pretty amazing that Woodson keeps playing Thompson.
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Big guy for Wyoming travels 50% of the time he touches the ball.
Facing a better D than hes used to I'd imagine.
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Big guy for Wyoming travels 50% of the time he touches the ball.
Facing a better D than hes used to I'd imagine.
Wyoming struggling to score, dribble, catch, rebound, shoot, etc, etc. Shocked they only have 15 turns. I was thinking more like 25.
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Wyoming struggling to score, dribble, catch, rebound, shoot, etc, etc. Shocked they only have 15 turns. I was thinking more like 25.
Indiana dominating the O glass as well
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This is what I would call a dud game. And that would include the announcing crew.
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Woof these teams are both not good.
Wyoming cant handle the ball or D rebound.
TJD is legit the only good player on Indiana(geronimo has potential). Guys like Stewart, Thompson and Johnson keep trying to score themselves rather than give it to TJD and its keeping Wyoming in.
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What's the individual turnover record in a NCAA tournament game?
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Wyoming is murdering Indiana in eFG%...and down 7 late.
#eFG%dethroned
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Scrub on Indianas bench does the goodbye wave to the crowd with 1:40 left.
Yet another bozo on Indiana fouls a 3 shooter who makes it for a 4 pt play.
They have fouled a 3 shooter twice in 3 possessions.
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I think eliminating both of these teams would be a prudent decision.
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Refs completely miss Indiana fouling for 3 again
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"You both coached at a high level. What's the strategy now down 6 and defending Indiana with 14 8 secs left." Really?
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Dumb question (maybe). Why does the NIT not list seeds for the 5-8 teams?
https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2022%20NIT%20Printable%20Bracket.jpg
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Rothstein asking a confused Woodson what message he wanted to send to Bobby Knight was the perfect lighter fluid for that dumpster fire of a broadcast.
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Rothstein asking a confused Woodson what message he wanted to send to Bobby Knight was the perfect lighter fluid for that dumpster fire of a broadcast.
Well said! That was a complete "dumpster fire" to put it kindly.
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Rex Chapman. Ooof.
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Dumb question (maybe). Why does the NIT not list seeds for the 5-8 teams?
https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2022%20NIT%20Printable%20Bracket.jpg
not sure, but hoping Texas A&M wins it. I miss Buzz.
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not sure, but hoping Texas A&M wins it. I miss Buzz.
That's some weird logic. Guy dumps you, craps on the program and conference, does the same at another school and you still want him to do well instead of a conference team that'd actually bring some (marginal) respect to the conference by winning that tournament?
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That's some weird logic. Guy dumps you, craps on the program and conference, does the same at another school and you still want him to do well instead of a conference team that'd actually bring some (marginal) respect to the conference by winning that tournament?
Buzz is too busy writing a manifesto about why they should be in than coach. I predict first round exit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1503946209341411329?t=6v7mJb1Ldn0NipWWuPt0bA&s=19
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Making conference winners play in the First Four games sucks. Put them in the 64 and send the last eight at-large teams to Dayton.
Amen, brother Pakuni. Amen.
On the other, Texas Southern sure looked happy moving their name on the big board after the win. Playing today gave them an NCAA moment to celebrate.
Of course they did. They worked hard all year hoping to win their conference and make it to the tournament. Why wouldn't they look happy when they realize that goal? It's a shame that A&M-CC didn't get the same chance.
Woof [Indiana and Wyoming] are both not good.
And that's yet another reason why the "first four" should include the last eight bubble teams and not the small conference champions.
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Buzz is too busy writing a manifesto about why they should be in than coach. I predict first round exit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1503946209341411329?t=6v7mJb1Ldn0NipWWuPt0bA&s=19
Laying the groundwork about why he has to leave A&M.
It’s never Buzz’s fault. Big Qanon energy
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Buzz is too busy writing a manifesto about why they should be in than coach. I predict first round exit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1503946209341411329?t=6v7mJb1Ldn0NipWWuPt0bA&s=19
Buzz Williams' "research" lmao. he's the same idiot who said the Big East was going to fail, and that it was extremely unlikely a non football school would ever get final four bid in 2014... here we are with Nova, Zags, Wichita St, and Loyola making the final four 6 tournaments later, and the Big East having multiple years as a top 2-4 conference.
He's someone who does research to back up a point not to figure out the "why"
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Buzz is too busy writing a manifesto about why they should be in than coach. I predict first round exit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1503946209341411329?t=6v7mJb1Ldn0NipWWuPt0bA&s=19 (https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1503946209341411329?t=6v7mJb1Ldn0NipWWuPt0bA&s=19)
He even gets tears in his presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHbfnqC0Fk&t=746s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHbfnqC0Fk&t=746s)
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He does have a point on the lack of transparency and the seemingly shifting goal posts. Not sure why ND and Rutgers got in over them , unless conference tournament games do not factor into the equation. Thst being said, I couldn't care less about A&M, or Buzz.
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He even gets tears in his presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHbfnqC0Fk&t=746s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHbfnqC0Fk&t=746s)
I can't decide whether this take is hilarious, misguided, or outright delusional:
Buzz Williams going off on the selection committee and backing up his players is why we love him here at A&M. He puts the team first, and it is evident that he loves every single person on this team like it’s his own son. There is NOBODY I would rather have leading this program
https://mobile.twitter.com/BarstoolTexasAM/status/1503947583223480320
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I can't decide whether this take is hilarious, misguided, or outright delusional:
Buzz Williams going off on the selection committee and backing up his players is why we love him here at A&M. He puts the team first, and it is evident that he loves every single person on this team like it’s his own son. There is NOBODY I would rather have leading this program
https://mobile.twitter.com/BarstoolTexasAM/status/1503947583223480320
If your son does something that could bring him legal trouble and you want your son to stay out of legal trouble no mater what he did, Buzz is right up there with the men in this world that you would want to "lead" your son (so long as your son can help him win basketball games).
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Laying the groundwork about why he has to leave A&M.
It’s never Buzz’s fault. Big Qanon energy
Every single year, 2-3 teams have just as good of an argument as to why they should have gotten in - someone has to get cut.
Dear TeamCoachBuzz- Your non-conference strength of schedule was laughable, and you were 9-9 in conference. Get over it. Rather than doing this "research", spend your time putting together future schedules that make the committee's job easier.
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not sure, but hoping Texas A&M wins it. I miss Buzz.
I am sooo glad that charlatan is gone. He’ll probably end up as a televangelist on some minor midnight-5am tv network.
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I am sooo glad that charlatan is gone. He’ll probably end up as a televangelist on some minor midnight-5am tv network.
Long lost cousin Buzz Gemstone?
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Every single year, 2-3 teams have just as good of an argument as to why they should have gotten in - someone has to get cut.
Dear TeamCoachBuzz- Your non-conference strength of schedule was laughable, and you were 9-9 in conference. Get over it. Rather than doing this "research", spend your time putting together future schedules that make the committee's job easier.
Which is why Buzz' behavior is embarrassing. A&M was the fourth team out.
They were nowhere close to the field without an automatic berth. And when they had that opportunity they were easily outplayed.
Self reflection, coach.
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Buzz's water bottle is being tipped over and some sand is falling out.
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I'm assuming this brilliant 9 page report was written in Buzz's new panic room.
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He is such an egomaniac. It’s always been about him first.
He’s shown his true colors twice with Marquette and VT and yet here we are again with the “Oh, poor Buzz”
The further away he gets from his Marquette tenure, the more I dislike him.
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He is such an egomaniac. It’s always been about him first.
He’s shown his true colors twice with Marquette and VT and yet here we are again with the “Oh, poor Buzz”
The further away he gets from his Marquette tenure, the more I dislike him.
Most D-1 coaches have a big ego. Comes with the territory.
What makes Buzz unique among his peers is his paranoia. It is bad. Someone or thing is always out to get him. I have no doubt he wrote that 9 page manifesto about missing the tournament. Not a healthy mindset to have.
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Every single year, 2-3 teams have just as good of an argument as to why they should have gotten in - someone has to get cut.
Dear TeamCoachBuzz- Your non-conference strength of schedule was laughable, and you were 9-9 in conference. Get over it. Rather than doing this "research", spend your time putting together future schedules that make the committee's job easier.
Dear Skip. Bid are determined by body of work. Their overall strength of schedule is better than teams like USC, Notre Dame, Miami, San Francisco, San Diego St. That being said. I think he is looking for transparency.
I need a shower now.
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Dear Skip. Bid are determined by body of work. Their overall strength of schedule is better than teams like USC, Notre Dame, Miami, San Francisco, San Diego St. That being said. I think he is looking for transparency attention.
I need a shower now.
FIFY
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While I have no doubt Buzz feels legitimately aggrieved, I also have no doubt that he's "working the refs." He's hoping to get a call in the future.
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FIFY
Thank you! Always be recruiting. Whether it be for players or a new job.
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Dear Skip. Bid are determined by body of work. Their overall strength of schedule is better than teams like USC, Notre Dame, Miami, San Francisco, San Diego St. That being said. I think he is looking for transparency.
The thing about Buzz, though, is that he'd only accept transparency if it gave him his preferred outcome. They could use NET rankings exclusively to determine at-large bids, and if A&M happened to land just outside the field one year, he'd issue a PowerPoint on how NET is flawed.
I'm not saying he doesn't have an argument, but multiple schools have the same argument every year. A "selection" system will never be perfect, and that's part of the fun.
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I would love a psych evaluation on Buzz. I’ve always felt he was on the spectrum to some degree, and almost surely has clinically diagnosable OCD.
This is in no defense of Buzz, but I’ve never thought he was a charlatan or a fraud, cause I think he genuinely believes in his stuff, but that always takes a backseat to self enrichment and CYA and the way he knows how to do that is burning bridges to justify his decision.
I had a coworker/manager who was poached from a rival agency. He recently got promoted there and used it as a springboard to a higher level at my agency. Within year he needled management into giving his team more resources, creating a new group within his division cause he saw long term potential for growth. He also brought on 2 of his former direct reports from the other agency to work under him on the new team. Less than 3 months after his new group was formed and his team expanded, he bolted to yet another agency to start a new group there, leaving everyone high and dry and my agency with this new resource allocated group with no leadership or direction.
But during his time he was a great manager, advocated for his direct reports and got them raises and promotions, was really an enjoyable coworker and asset to the company. But top of mind was clearly always looking out for number 1 and elevating himself, regardless of what he was saying.
He didn’t trash us on the way out to my knowledge but different strokes for different folks
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If Buzz wants to research why his team missed the tourney, maybe he should look at the non-conference schedule he created. Hell, the non-con schedules he has created for EVERY SINGLE YEAR since leaving Marquette. Here are how many buy games his teams have played since he left:
2015 Virginia Tech: 9
2016 Virginia Tech: 8
2017 Virginia Tech: 7
2018 Virginia Tech: 8
2019 Virginia Tech: 7
2020 Texas A&M: 5*
2021 Texas A&M: 5**
2022 Texas A&M: 8 (including one D2 game)
*2020: Buzz came into a schedule that had 3 MTE games, 2 home-and-home paybacks, 1 prescheduled neutral court game, and 1 SEC/B12 Challenge game. So he had 7 prescheduled games and control over the remaining non-con games. TAMU played 12 non-con games, all 5 that Buzz controlled were buy games.
**2021: TAMU only played 6 non-con games, so 5/6 is still a high number.
Seriously, he just needs to shut up. If you want to be a tourney team, try scheduling like a tourney team. And I say that as someone that got sucked in by TAMU's run and had them in my final field. If you seriously want to earn a NCAA bid, maybe try doing something of value more than 2 days before Selection Sunday, because until they beat Auburn and Arkansas in the SEC Tournament, no one had them sniffing an at-large.
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I'm assuming this brilliant 9 page report was written in Buzz's new panic room.
And while he was supposed to be preparing for a game, no less.
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LJ Cryer downgraded to OUT this whole weekend for Baylor.
I know Marquette won't look ahead, but Baylor now down to 6 rotational players.
Cryer is their leading scorer and their starting center JTT is out for the year as well. Big development in the East Region.
A window has cracked open for Marquette or UNC. Hopefully Marquette gets to Saturday.
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And while he was supposed to be preparing for a game, no less.
What's funny is on every Buzz interview during the SECT, he was playing up his "aw shucks persona" about not even looking at where TAMU was on the NCAA bubble, that he has one guy on his staff tracking but wasn't concerned. Then, the next day after he gets bounced, the Buzzer pens a nine page opus on the injustice of getting bounced.
Up the bi-polar dosage.
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LJ Cryer downgraded to OUT this whole weekend for Baylor.
I know Marquette won't look ahead, but Baylor now down to 6 rotational players.
Cryer is their leading scorer and their starting center JTT is out for the year as well. Big development in the East Region.
A window has cracked open for Marquette or UNC. Hopefully Marquette gets to Saturday.
Window is cracked, though I will note that since JTT's injury, Baylor has wins over tourney teams TCU, Texas, Iowa State, and 1-seed Kansas. So it's not like they'll be helpless even without those two.
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LJ Cryer downgraded to OUT this whole weekend for Baylor.
Cryer has only played in ONE game since 1/25. A loss @ TTU on 2/16. They went 8-3 in the other 11 games with wins against Kansa, 2x Texas, TCU, @ OK St, and Iowas St. They've gotten used to playing without him.
Tchatchoua hasn't played since 2/12, and Baylor has wins against TCU, @OK St, Kansa, @ Texas, and Iowa St. without him.
This isn't a new development, or some sudden crack. As I mentioned a couple days ago, they are plenty dangerous (but a little young/thin) without those two.
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Cryer has only played in ONE game since 1/25. A loss @ TTU on 2/16. They went 8-3 in the other 11 games with wins against Kansa, 2x Texas, TCU, @ OK St, and Iowas St. They've gotten used to playing without him.
Tchatchoua hasn't played since 2/12, and Baylor has wins against TCU, @OK St, Kansa, @ Texas, and Iowa St. without him.
This isn't a new development, or some sudden crack. As I mentioned a couple days ago, they are plenty dangerous (but a little young/thin) without those two.
Still, with 1 days rest and a 6 man rotation it'll be taxing for them. They have 1 post player.
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What's funny is on every Buzz interview during the SECT, he was playing up his "aw shucks persona" about not even looking at where TAMU was on the NCAA bubble, that he has one guy on his staff tracking but wasn't concerned. Then, the next day after he gets bounced, the Buzzer pens a nine page opus on the injustice of getting bounced.
Up the bi-polar dosage.
What you're saying is he needs more of the red pill?
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I found this nice tourney guide:
Matt Eisenberg
@matteise
The wait is over, it is now #tournamentguide time! Here is my 2022 NCAA Tournament Guide. Enjoy the madness.
http://bit.ly/2022tournamentguide
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Amen, brother Pakuni. Amen.
Of course they did. They worked hard all year hoping to win their conference and make it to the tournament. Why wouldn't they look happy when they realize that goal? It's a shame that A&M-CC didn't get the same chance.
And that's yet another reason why the "first four" should include the last eight bubble teams and not the small conference champions.
For the record, I am not opposed to what you're saying. Either way would be fine with me.
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That's some weird logic. Guy dumps you, craps on the program and conference, does the same at another school and you still want him to do well instead of a conference team that'd actually bring some (marginal) respect to the conference by winning that tournament?
I got over the dumping. The crapping went both ways. I like the guy. He’s a character. Weird. Odd. Bizarre. Arrogant… all of that.
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I never feel sorry at all for a team that ends up on the wrong side of the bubble.
You want to be on the right side of the bubble on Selection Sunday? Win another game or two! You had the power to control your own fate, pal, and you blew it. So stop yer whinin'!
As for Buzz in particular ... I haven't rooted for him since he left Marquette. And I say that as a guy who very much enjoyed watching MU play when he was our coach.
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Dumb question (maybe). Why does the NIT not list seeds for the 5-8 teams?
https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2022%20NIT%20Printable%20Bracket.jpg
They probably thought you were smart enough to know 4 plays 5, 3 plays 6, 2 plays 7 and 1 plays 8.
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They probably thought you were smart enough to know 4 plays 5, 3 plays 6, 2 plays 7 and 1 plays 8.
Yeah, but if one of them makes it to the semifinals, I have to look all the way back to figure out what seed they should have been! lol. It's just odd to me they didn't want to waste the ink (bits) - unless they're really not seeded that way? Even on TV they didn't list seeds next to the "underdog".
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Dumb question (maybe). Why does the NIT not list seeds for the 5-8 teams?
https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2022%20NIT%20Printable%20Bracket.jpg (https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2022%20NIT%20Printable%20Bracket.jpg)
I don’t think 5-8 are really seeded. 1-4 get the home game, and they just picked the visiting teams based on who was closest geographically.
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I don’t think 5-8 are really seeded. 1-4 get the home game, and they just picked the visiting teams based on who was closest geographically.
OK. That could be an explanation. I didn't (and still haven't) looked at geography.
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Wright State and Bryant took turns badly bungling clock management the last 40 seconds of the first half. Entertaining, though.
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Wright State and Bryant took turns badly bungling clock management the last 40 seconds of the first half. Entertaining, though.
They combined for 60+ in the last 10 min of the first half. That’s just fun basketball for a 16s game
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The Wyoming point guard just committed another turnover
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Rothstein asking a confused Woodson what message he wanted to send to Bobby Knight was the perfect lighter fluid for that dumpster fire of a broadcast.
Nothing/Nobody was worse than the godawful Rex Chapman, who seemingly didn't do a minute of prep and had no clue who the players or teams were.
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Nothing/Nobody was worse than the godawful Rex Chapman, who seemingly didn't do a minute of prep and had no clue who the players or teams were.
Is he out of jail now?
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Is he out of jail now?
How do you not put in the prep work only to sound clueless on TV?
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I was wondering why Chapman was hired. Seems bizarre to me.
Go Rutgers.
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I was wondering why Chapman was hired. Seems bizarre to me.
Go Rutgers.
He is a "major social media star" apparently.
https://www.si.com/.amp/media/2022/01/18/social-media-star-rex-chapman-host-cnn
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He is a "major social media star" apparently.
https://www.si.com/.amp/media/2022/01/18/social-media-star-rex-chapman-host-cnn
I think the tournament needs a complete overhaul with announcers and analysts, with the exception of Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel.
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Providence is only a 2pt favorite? LOL.
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If Buzz's act has not grown old on you yet, I submit this:
https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY (https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY)
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If Buzz's act has not grown old on you yet, I submit this:
https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY (https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY)
Holy moly! That is some embarrassing stuff.
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Tonight, Rex Chapman derailed a conversation about Ron Harper Jr by gloating about Ron Harper Sr blowing out his knee.
We all know Chapman doesn't sniff this TV gig if his politics were as extreme, but to the Right side.
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Tonight, Rex Chapman derailed a conversation about Ron Harper Jr by gloating about Ron Harper Sr blowing out his knee.
We all know Chapman doesn't sniff this TV gig if his politics were as extreme, but to the Right side.
So he was hired because of his politics? I guess I don't much about the guy in recent years.
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Tonight, Rex Chapman derailed a conversation about Ron Harper Jr by gloating about Ron Harper Sr blowing out his knee.
We all know Chapman doesn't sniff this TV gig if his politics were as extreme, but to the Right side.
If Rex Chapman was a qanon incel he would have plenty of opportunities on Newsmax.
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Holy moly! That is some embarrassing stuff.
He’s awful. The team lost eight straight games and played a bad non conference schedule. If you’re speaking from the heart you should never have to stare at a piece of paper and read a prepared statement. That was scripted and very poorly delivered. He deserved his outcome - a bid to the NIT. Since Buzz jettisoned Newbill I’ve had no respect for this “man of faith and commitment.” Get out of here with your BS!!!!!!!!!!
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What do you know.
Another college basketball game where the team with the final shot lets a player(streaky one at that) just dribble out the whole clock to take a extremely low percentage and obviously telegraphed fade away shot.
Works basically 0% of the time.
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If Buzz's act has not grown old on you yet, I submit this:
https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY (https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY)
Holy moly! That is some embarrassing stuff.
Not really. MU fans would be eating this up if we'd been snubbed the way A&M was. He's 100% right. A&M finished higher than MU in KenPom. They finished the season on a tear, despite the committee no longer considering record in the last 10. 9-9 in the SEC and that finish, they should be in. Period.
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This ND/Rutgers game got really fun. ND grinding methodical offense, get a bucket, then Rutgers tears down the court and punches them right back in the mouth. Then both teams go cold the last 2 min
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This ND/Rutgers game got really fun. ND grinding methodical offense, get a bucket, then Rutgers tears down the court and punches them right back in the mouth. Then both teams go cold the last 2 min
Rutgers needs to stop having crappy shooters shoot fadeaways and do more Lobs to the 1 handed hammer in the middle.
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Mulchay what a dunce
1 upped his thrown punch in the indiana game with that pass
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Mulchay what a dunce
1 upped his thrown punch in the indiana game with that pass
Redemption lol.
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Double OT. This is fun.
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Dammit!!
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Not really. MU fans would be eating this up if we'd been snubbed the way A&M was. He's 100% right. A&M finished higher than MU in KenPom. They finished the season on a tear, despite the committee no longer considering record in the last 10. 9-9 in the SEC and that finish, they should be in. Period.
Sure, don’t really care to debate if they should’ve been in. I would have had them in the field myself. But the interview was super cringe worthy. And I like Buzz.
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Still some dumb things that scream "play in teams"
But boy this game is way better than last night. Both these teams look like an actual NCAA game rather NIT
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How many lay-ups has Rutgers allowed? Inexcusable.
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Rutgers is getting lazy as hell in the paint.
Easy lay ups and while they have dominated the rebounding overall. They have given up a couple brutal O rebounds in the OTs.
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Rutgers is getting lazy as hell in the paint.
Easy lay ups and while they have dominated the rebounding overall. They have given up a couple brutal O rebounds in the OTs.
Terrible. I expect Bama will roll either of these teams.
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Mulchay has pebbles for brains.
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Mulchay has pebbles for brains.
Will we have to hear this crew and Rothstein after this game?
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The Rutgers ball watching rebounding killed them once more.
Just didnt protect the paint or rebound at all in OT
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Will we have to hear this crew and Rothstein after this game?
Not if you turn off the tv
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Not if you turn off the tv
I was just curious if they had any of the real tournament games.
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Not really. MU fans would be eating this up if we'd been snubbed the way A&M was. He's 100% right. A&M finished higher than MU in KenPom. They finished the season on a tear, despite the committee no longer considering record in the last 10. 9-9 in the SEC and that finish, they should be in. Period.
Huh, 9-9 in a league and his team didn’t make it in. He should coach in a league where .500 gets you in. Oh, well
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Not really. MU fans would be eating this up if we'd been snubbed the way A&M was. He's 100% right. A&M finished higher than MU in KenPom. They finished the season on a tear, despite the committee no longer considering record in the last 10. 9-9 in the SEC and that finish, they should be in. Period.
He's definitely not right. Here's the problem with Buzz's argument. They didn't start playing like a tournament team until last Friday. 8 buy games, one against a D2 school that doesn't even count on the resume. In conference play, they went 2-6 vs NCAA opponents, so it's not like they had a pile of wins to fall back on.
His team got to 15-2 this year and never got ranked. I know rankings have no bearing, but it shows how universally bad their schedule was and how no one ever thought they were any good. Then they lost 8 straight and fell off the map.
I thought that late run would get A&M in because the Selection Committee still hadn't settled on teams until Saturday night, but when you leave it that late, you're getting what you deserve.
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He's definitely not right. Here's the problem with Buzz's argument. They didn't start playing like a tournament team until last Friday. 8 buy games, one against a D2 school that doesn't even count on the resume. In conference play, they went 2-6 vs NCAA opponents, so it's not like they had a pile of wins to fall back on.
His team got to 15-2 this year and never got ranked. I know rankings have no bearing, but it shows how universally bad their schedule was and how no one ever thought they were any good. Then they lost 8 straight and fell off the map.
I thought that late run would get A&M in because the Selection Committee still hadn't settled on teams until Saturday night, but when you leave it that late, you're getting what you deserve.
Half of Buzz’s non-con were 250 or worse. Buzz’s own fault for this scheduling methods.
Install the offense before the season and play a better schedule.
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Half of Buzz’s non-con were 250 or worse. Buzz’s own fault for this scheduling methods.
Install the offense before the season and play a better schedule.
On a positive note for Buzz, at least he is teaching the young men under his tutelage, that when things go against you, cry and whine and deflect responsibility. Blame others. Chastise the system. Cry foul. But, whatever you do, absolutely do not own responsibility.
Does A&M have a right to be upset? Yes. Most bubble teams do on some level or another. You can either accept that you, yourself, put yourself in that position through weak conference scheduling, an eight game losing streak, and other things within your control, or you can shed all accountability, turn on your fake tears, and do the Buzz.
Good for Buzz. A man of integrity and principles. Teaching young men how not to be accountable. Bravo!
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If Buzz's act has not grown old on you yet, I submit this:
https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY (https://youtu.be/MEYTAhvReCY)
He's getting great reviews for that performance
When A Buzz Turns To A Whine (https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2022/3/17/22982343/buzz-williams-ncaa-committee-seth-greenberg-texas-a-m-notre-dame)
There’s a very simple principle here: if you want to be taken seriously, schedule seriously. We are much more impressed with guys like Mark Few and Tom Izzo, who will literally play anyone anywhere, than we are by guys who try to game the system and then complain when it blows up in their face.
Grow a pair, Buzz. Take your team to McKale Center or Pauley. Try to get to Rupp. Just play a tough schedule, win, and you’ll be in.
Nate Oats gets it. Alabama scheduled South Dakota State, Iona, Miami, Gonzaga, Houston Memphis and Davidson. That’s an amazing schedule really because South Dakota State, Iona, Memphis and Davidson are all extremely dangerous, and in fact, Iona, Memphis and Davidson all beat ‘Bama. However, the Crimson Tide beat Gonzaga, Houston and Miami and those were huge.
Alabama finished one spot below A&M in the SEC, in eighth place. Alabama is a sixth seed. Williams doesn’t complain about that because he knows what they did and what he didn't do.
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He's getting great reviews for that performance
When A Buzz Turns To A Whine (https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2022/3/17/22982343/buzz-williams-ncaa-committee-seth-greenberg-texas-a-m-notre-dame)
There’s a very simple principle here: if you want to be taken seriously, schedule seriously. We are much more impressed with guys like Mark Few and Tom Izzo, who will literally play anyone anywhere, than we are by guys who try to game the system and then complain when it blows up in their face.
Grow a pair, Buzz. Take your team to McKale Center or Pauley. Try to get to Rupp. Just play a tough schedule, win, and you’ll be in.
Nate Oats gets it. Alabama scheduled South Dakota State, Iona, Miami, Gonzaga, Houston Memphis and Davidson. That’s an amazing schedule really because South Dakota State, Iona, Memphis and Davidson are all extremely dangerous, and in fact, Iona, Memphis and Davidson all beat ‘Bama. However, the Crimson Tide beat Gonzaga, Houston and Miami and those were huge.
Alabama finished one spot below A&M in the SEC, in eighth place. Alabama is a sixth seed. Williams doesn’t complain about that because he knows what they did and what he didn't do.
It’s a conspiracy against Buzz and Texas A&M being persecuted by ESPN, Finebaum and the Longhorns.
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On a positive note for Buzz, at least he is teaching the young men under his tutelage, that when things go against you, cry and whine and deflect responsibility. Blame others. Chastise the system. Cry foul. But, whatever you do, absolutely do not own responsibility.
Does A&M have a right to be upset? Yes. Most bubble teams do on some level or another. You can either accept that you, yourself, put yourself in that position through weak conference scheduling, an eight game losing streak, and other things within your control, or you can shed all accountability, turn on your fake tears, and do the Buzz.
Good for Buzz. A man of integrity and principles. Teaching young men how not to be accountable. Bravo!
He should run for President.
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It’s a conspiracy against Buzz and Texas A&M being persecuted by ESPN, Finebaum and the Longhorns.
The College Station Conspiracy!! The dark powers are making Buzz pay for Jimbo's NIL deals, lol.
Given Buzz's general paranoia, he might just come to this conclusion. He's not letting this "snub" go anytime soon.
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Exactly - and the whole "research" angle was uber cringeworthy. It takes about 5 minutes of "research" to understand that you did not play anyone, Buzz, and you did not beat anyone of quality until the final weekend.
How about research "playing OOC games against teams above Kenpom 250 and the effect on your NCAA resume, Buzz"
On a positive note for Buzz, at least he is teaching the young men under his tutelage, that when things go against you, cry and whine and deflect responsibility. Blame others. Chastise the system. Cry foul. But, whatever you do, absolutely do not own responsibility.
Does A&M have a right to be upset? Yes. Most bubble teams do on some level or another. You can either accept that you, yourself, put yourself in that position through weak conference scheduling, an eight game losing streak, and other things within your control, or you can shed all accountability, turn on your fake tears, and do the Buzz.
Good for Buzz. A man of integrity and principles. Teaching young men how not to be accountable. Bravo!
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Not really. MU fans would be eating this up if we'd been snubbed the way A&M was. He's 100% right. A&M finished higher than MU in KenPom. They finished the season on a tear, despite the committee no longer considering record in the last 10. 9-9 in the SEC and that finish, they should be in. Period.
Wrong.
Because of this ...
He's getting great reviews for that performance
When A Buzz Turns To A Whine (https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2022/3/17/22982343/buzz-williams-ncaa-committee-seth-greenberg-texas-a-m-notre-dame)
There’s a very simple principle here: if you want to be taken seriously, schedule seriously. We are much more impressed with guys like Mark Few and Tom Izzo, who will literally play anyone anywhere, than we are by guys who try to game the system and then complain when it blows up in their face.
Grow a pair, Buzz. Take your team to McKale Center or Pauley. Try to get to Rupp. Just play a tough schedule, win, and you’ll be in.
Nate Oats gets it. Alabama scheduled South Dakota State, Iona, Miami, Gonzaga, Houston Memphis and Davidson. That’s an amazing schedule really because South Dakota State, Iona, Memphis and Davidson are all extremely dangerous, and in fact, Iona, Memphis and Davidson all beat ‘Bama. However, the Crimson Tide beat Gonzaga, Houston and Miami and those were huge.
Alabama finished one spot below A&M in the SEC, in eighth place. Alabama is a sixth seed. Williams doesn’t complain about that because he knows what they did and what he didn't do.
And this ...
He's definitely not right. Here's the problem with Buzz's argument. They didn't start playing like a tournament team until last Friday. 8 buy games, one against a D2 school that doesn't even count on the resume. In conference play, they went 2-6 vs NCAA opponents, so it's not like they had a pile of wins to fall back on.
His team got to 15-2 this year and never got ranked. I know rankings have no bearing, but it shows how universally bad their schedule was and how no one ever thought they were any good. Then they lost 8 straight and fell off the map.
I thought that late run would get A&M in because the Selection Committee still hadn't settled on teams until Saturday night, but when you leave it that late, you're getting what you deserve.
Don't schedule a bunch of JV teams and win a couple more games. Or shut the hell up.
Sounds like it's time for Buzz to bolt again to find his happy elsewhere.
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Just setting up his next move. That's all it ever is for him. "I can go finish above Alabama in the conference and miss the Tourney while they get a 6 seed. I can't get the respect I need to win at TAMU."
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Michigan vs Colorado State looks as expected.
The 6 seed is a MW team that didnt play elite competition throuhgout the last 3 months.
The 11 seed is a 14 loss team that arguably shouldnt of even be in.
Both these teams should be immediately removed from the tournament.
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Michigan vs Colorado State looks as expected.
The 6 seed is a MW team that didnt play elite competition throuhgout the last 3 months.
The 11 seed is a 14 loss team that arguably shouldnt of even be in.
Both these teams should be immediately removed from the tournament.
The Mountain West had 4 teams in the Tournament. I guess it depends on how you define "elite," but there are only 2 Big East teams that are higher in KenPom than the top 3 teams in the MWC were this year. CSU went 25-5 and had non-con wins over Creighton and St. Mary's.
If you want to immediately remove them then just make it a 16 team tournament.
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To be fair, Michigan is missing their starting PG which is probably a factor in their poor play.
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To be fair, Michigan is missing their starting PG which is probably a factor in their poor play.
Wish I knew this when I filled out my bracket.
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Providence has SDSU playing their preferred grindy lower scoring style. And the best 3P shooting team in the country is 2/7 and looks totally out of sync. Thats how Providence wins. Cooley has to be happy so far
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They have a half time to adjust
But that vaunted SDSU offense in the Summit league looks a lot different when they play a 25 win BE team.
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Providence has SDSU playing their preferred grindy lower scoring style. And the best 3P shooting team in the country is 2/7 and looks totally out of sync. Thats how Providence wins. Cooley has to be happy so far
Didn’t watch all of the half but it looked like SDSU was missing a lot of good looks. Not necessarily a great defensive display by Providence.
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Didn’t watch all of the half but it looked like SDSU was missing a lot of good looks. Not necessarily a great defensive display by Providence.
They all are going to the hole like Kolek where they're launching it at the backboard instead of laying it in.
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Feeling better about my Michigan pick now. Quite a 2nd half turnaround.
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Ugh, that’s an annoying stat they just showed, Big East teams are 30-1 against the Summit league since 2011.
I remember who that 1 is…
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Ian Eagle with the line of the tournament:
"More cowbell for Dickinson!"
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Michigan bypassing the play in and playing in Indy is a joke
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Jackrabbits aren't done yet. 8-0 run to cut the lead to 6.
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Michigan bypassing the play in and playing in Indy is a joke
I was just thinking for an 11 seed, they got quite the favorable site location and at an arena they just played in. Not cool at all.
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The Mountain West had 4 teams in the Tournament. I guess it depends on how you define "elite," but there are only 2 Big East teams that are higher in KenPom than the top 3 teams in the MWC were this year. CSU went 25-5 and had non-con wins over Creighton and St. Mary's.
If you want to immediately remove them then just make it a 16 team tournament.
LOL.
The MW had 4 teams make the tournament. The rest are not good basketball teams.
The ones to make the tournament were 6/8/8 and play ins.
So far they are 0-2 losing to the BIG10s last team to get in and a 14 loss BIG10 team without their starting point guard. And they looked awful in both games.
No need to drop the tournament to 16 teams. Just dont put MW trash at a 6.
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The neutral crowd really got behind Michigan in the 2nd half.
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Boise State and the Moutain West are so elite
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Boise State and the Moutain West are so elite
Did someone say they were?
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Ugh, that’s an annoying stat they just showed, Big East teams are 30-1 against the Summit league since 2011.
I remember who that 1 is…
We were top 10 in the country and lost to North Dakota State if memory serves.
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So I see that I've missed nothing other than the Mountain West Conf sucking? Big shock there.
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This Memphis-Boise game STINKS.
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This Memphis-Boise game STINKS.
Disagree. Boise State defense has been excellent this half. Fun to watch. Unfortunately, their offense stinks.
I have no doubt that if Boise had 5 more minutes, they would win. But they are going to run out of time
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Richmond hanging with Iowa for a half as I expected.
Not sure they have enough O to actually pull it off though.
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So I see that I've missed nothing other than the Mountain West Conf sucking? Big shock there.
Major bed crapping from that conference. Wyoming looked absolutely abysmal on Tuesday. The other two also look inferior and look like they don’t belong.
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Richmond hanging with Iowa for a half as I expected.
Not sure they have enough O to actually pull it off though.
Did Richmond bring a few thousand Joros to the Iowa locker room? This would be a stunning upset. I'm pretty sure Providence would rather play Richmond.
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Providence looks better than Iowa to me.
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Our tip going to get pushed back?
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Tennessee is a wagon
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Did Richmond bring a few thousand Joros to the Iowa locker room? This would be a stunning upset. I'm pretty sure Providence would rather play Richmond.
Lot of time for Iowa to get it going still, like I said hesitant on if Richmond can score should Iowa see a few drop.
That said, I did think the 10.5 Richmond was getting off the bat was pretty juicy.
Lets see if Murray takes over and still covers.
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Disagree. Boise State defense has been excellent this half. Fun to watch. Unfortunately, their offense stinks.
I have no doubt that if Boise had 5 more minutes, they would win. But they are going to run out of time
Their offense stunk. The defense was good but Memphis was also terrible and playing stupid. And then late Boise was just looking dumb taking tons of time down multiple possessions.
I don't need an 85-84 track meet, but a rock fight with good defense stifling one team and the other defensive team chucking up bricks is just not my ideal viewing.
Memphis plays tremendously low IQ basketball
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See ya Iowa
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See ya Iowa
Happy to see Iowa go. Added bonus Of helping Cooley and Co out on Saturday.
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UCONN getting outplayed by New Mex St.
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Creighton as well
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I was concerned about the BEast before the tournament. I hope these teams can come back but right now both UCONN and Creighton are getting badly stomped. And of course our game was beyond brutal.
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St.Peter's beating Kentucky would help all of us out.
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Wow. Did you just see that idiot9c foul on Sanogo? No discipline whatsoever.
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Yukon just s*** the bed
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That kid (Allen) on New Mex St. has tremendous swagger. UCONN about to go home.
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That kid (Allen) on New Mex St. has tremendous swagger. UCONN about to go home.
How was that not a tech? Ran to the crowd and flexed?
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How was that not a tech? Ran to the crowd and flexed?
so? need a tissue mate?
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How was that not a tech? Ran to the crowd and flexed?
Probably should have beem but I dunno.
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Looks like our little winning streak in January isn't as good as we were propping it up to be.
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so? need a tissue mate?
Wut?
Just asking officiating for some consistency
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The good news:
St. Mary’s might defeat Indiana by more points than UNC over Marquette.
The bad news:
UNC win over Marquette is an all time NCAA Tourney record for victory margin in an 8/9 game.
https://twitter.com/davidworlock/status/1504590901200437249?s=21
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Wut?
Just asking officiating for some consistency
Emotions running high. The kid did drop 37 and pretty much punked UCONN by himself.
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That kid (Allen) on New Mex St. has tremendous swagger. UCONN about to go home.
He was on the WVU team that lost to Nova when nova won it all in lik 2018
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C'mon St. Peter's!!!!
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Holy St Peter’s!!
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Wow. They win the gane if they get that reb. Can they somehow win in overtime?
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Emotions running high. The kid did drop 37 and pretty much punked UCONN by himself.
Oh ok.
That explains why Kueth got his T today then. He didn't score a lot and didn't punk UNC ::)
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St Peters shoulda played for the win
UK another team to hold the ball too long on a final shot.
You have best rebounder in nation. Put it up
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St Peters shoulda played for the win
UK another team to hold the ball too long on a final shot.
You have best rebounder in nation. Put it up
That guy who made that 3 for Kentucky hadn't made a shot all game.
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Wow. They win the gane if they get that reb. Can they somehow win in overtime?
I doubt it. Transfer Portal guys kept UK in it. I see UK getting it done, but will root like heck for St Peters.
Butch Lee’s son playing for St Peters.
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I doubt it. Transfer Portal guys kept UK in it. I see UK getting it done, but will root like heck for St Peters.
Butch Lee’s son playing for St Peters.
Nice!
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Brutal swing for Peters
Had a great steal but kid panicked and got stripped for 2 for UK
Then miss a 1and 1
and then Oscar scores again.
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Michigan bypassing the play in and playing in Indy is a joke
If you look at the things the Selection Committee looks at like Schedule Strength, wins against tournament caliber teams, ability to beat quality teams on the road, and the various computer metrics, their placement at 42 on the NCAA seed list looks about right.
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What? Wasn't that a travel?
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LET'S GO PEACOCKS!
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It hit his finger!! PEACOCKS ball!!
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Wow. Tough, tough, shot.
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YESSSSSS!!
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Wow, that was great by St Peters. 15 beats a 2, no less mighty Kentucky.
UK misses five free throws in OT.
Millions of brackets just busted.
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Wow, that was great by St Peters. 15 beats a 2, no less mighty Kentucky.
UK misses five free throws in OT.
Millions of brackets just busted.
Lee made the critical free throws!
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Ouch. Kalky seriously hurt.
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Lee made the critical free throws!
Takes the sting off a little, hopefully our performance isn’t story 1 anymore
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Takes the sting off a little, hopefully our performance isn’t story 1 anymore
I think we're #3 behind UK and Iowa
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Ouch. Kalky seriously hurt.
Creighton sure feels snake bitten by the injury bug over the years.
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Ouch. Kalky seriously hurt.
Looks bad.
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I think we're #3 behind UK and Iowa
Not even close. I promise you the national story from our game will be how awesome UNC played and that they are poised to take on Baylor. The fact that their game today happened against Marquette will be mostly irrelevant. UConn and Indiana losing will get far more coverage.
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Heck of a game. You do have to feel for Creighton. This would be an incredible win if they hold on.
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Looks bad.
Yup. Non contact knee injury usually one thing, ACL…..
Hope they win for him.
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Moutain West blows.
Give them 11s or worse from now on and let like 2 in.
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Not even close. I promise you the national story from our game will be how awesome UNC played and that they are poised to take on Baylor. The fact that their game today happened against Marquette will be mostly irrelevant. UConn and Indiana losing will get far more coverage.
I never said it's because of MU. Because it was UNC, we get to relive it.
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Not even close. I promise you the national story from our game will be how awesome UNC played and that they are poised to take on Baylor. The fact that their game today happened against Marquette will be mostly irrelevant. UConn and Indiana losing will get far more coverage.
Huh? Why would Indiana losing to SMC be a story? The Gaels are a much better team and the higher seed.
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Jay's performance was pure guts. Impressive.
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Huh? Why would Indiana losing to SMC be a story? The Gaels are a much better team and the higher seed.
Indiana
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Solid league. Yet, tough week for the Mountain West.
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Are the Zips any good?
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Are the Zips any good?
They have the best mascot.
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They have the best mascot.
I haven't seen Zippy.
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Akron is playing hard. Can the Zips hold on? Where's Zippy?
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Groce butchered this final 30 seconds. I don’t care what Lappas said on the broadcast, you absolutely foul UCLA with the Bruins shooting 1 and 1 for two more fouls.
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Amazing seeing all these low seeds play hard, smart and even some winning while Marquette craps the bed.
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Groce butchered this final 30 seconds. I don’t care what Lappas said on the broadcast, you absolutely foul UCLA with the Bruins shooting 1 and 1 for two more fouls.
100%
They did get the stop though. But pretty lucky.
And then they play for the tie with a miracle layup attempt.
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Amazing seeing all these low seeds play hard, smart and even some winning while Marquette craps the bed.
Thought the exact same. Even in losses, these teams are playing with a lot of pride and fans can be proud of their team.
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100%
They did get the stop though. But pretty lucky.
And then they play for the tie with a miracle layup attempt.
That' 5th foul on their big didn't help. On that last play there was a guy wide open in the corner.
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Just brutal down the stretch from Murray State
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Murray coach is unbelievably bad. Last 3 straight possessions where the are doing nothing with the ball near mid court with 5-6 seconds on clock to end regulation.
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What a shot!
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Murray coach is unbelievably bad. Last 3 straight possessions where the are doing nothing with the ball near mid court with 5-6 seconds on clock to end regulation.
Matt McMahon is a very good coach.
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I hope Colgate shows up tomorrow!!! From what I’ve heard they have a pretty good team.
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It just dawned on me that next year is 2023. To think that it will be 10 yrs since we could potentially get a NCAA tournament win is tough to stomach. I do think Shaka will get us there but we really need to get more quickness and physicality for starters. Not to mention a quality glass cleaner.
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Murray coach is unbelievably bad. Last 3 straight possessions where the are doing nothing with the ball near mid court with 5-6 seconds on clock to end regulation.
Did they do that when they curb stomped us?
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Now that MU is eliminated, I have kicked into full schadenfreude mode. I'm looking at you Calipari and Hurley. And there are 3 B10 teams out already, with 5 more potential candidates Friday. I would be gratified if only 1 B10 team made it through to the S16, on their annual march to the futility of not producing a National Championship in 22 years.
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Now that MU is eliminated, I have kicked into full schadenfreude mode. I'm looking at you Calipari and Hurley. And there are 3 B10 teams out already, with 5 more potential candidates Friday. I would be gratified if only 1 B10 team made it through to the S16, on their annual march to the futility of not producing a National Championship in 22 years.
Purdue's draw just opened up but I'm with you DTD.
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It just dawned on me that next year is 2023. To think that it will be 10 yrs since we could potentially get a NCAA tournament win is tough to stomach. I do think Shaka will get us there but we really need to get more quickness and physicality for starters. Not to mention a quality glass cleaner.
Marquette last won a game in the NCAA in 2013 and Shaka last won a game in the NCAA in 2013. VCU beat Akron in the 1st round then lost to Michigan. VCU lost in the 1st round in 2014 and 2015. Texas lost in the 1st round in 2016, 2018, and 2021. With the blowout loss to North Carolina, he's lost 7 straight NCAA tourney games, and the last six in the 1st round.
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Based on results, Shaka and Dan Hurley have to at least be in the team picture of most overrated coaches in college hoops.
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Based on results, Shaka and Dan Hurley have to at least be in the team picture of most overrated coaches in college hoops.
So what should we do? Solutions? Are you saying pivot and move a different direction? I'm having trouble sleeping.
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I'm going into full Chicos mode. Did you see in the IU game, where the ball got stuck on the top of the backboard, and they needed the female cheerleader to get it? She and her family are my neighbor.
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St. Peter's, Richmond and maybe Vermont to the Big East.
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I'm going into full Chicos mode. Did you see in the IU game, where the ball got stuck on the top of the backboard, and they needed the female cheerleader to get it? She and her family are my neighbor.
Pix?
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So glad Loyola's gone, with their boring-ass "offense" and the way-overdone Sister Jean story.
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Kalkbrenner out for the tourney.
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Kalkbrenner out for the tourney.
Creighton has become a really good conference rival -- the kind of team I love to hate -- but I can't help but feel bad for them.
First Nembhard, and now this. It's an effen shame.
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Abysmal performance by USC.
The exact definition of actively not wanting to win
18 to 2 TO differential. And numerous key missed free throws.
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Kalkbrenner out for the tourney.
So is Sister Jean. It's a bummer all the way around.
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Creighton has become a really good conference rival -- the kind of team I love to hate -- but I can't help but feel bad for them.
First Nembhard, and now this. It's an effen shame.
I saw it in person last night and knew it was bad when they refused to show the replay on the in house feed. I was cheering hard for Creighton. I want the conference to perform well overall in the tournament. It's a major downer for a good coach and team already thin in the talent department this year due to injury.
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USC choked
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Did Quinnerly get hurt?
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Did Quinnerly get hurt?
Yes, knee gave way. Haven’t heard any details other than he is out
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Yes, knee gave way. Haven’t heard any details other than he is out
Ughhh. Smh.
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The brilliant Nate Oats loses big to the Effen Irish.
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The brilliant Nate Oats loses big to the Effen Irish.
He lost his PG and best player in the first 5 min. His second best player had an off game, and ND had a nobody turn into Steph Curry. It happens.
Are you gonna gloat about every good coach who loses in the first round?
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Can the Mocs pull this off?
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Focus on the "effen Irish" part. Speaking of parts, Mike Brey sporting quite the bald spot. Maybe he thought the beard would distract from it.
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The brilliant Nate Oats loses big to the Effen Irish.
I would have taken Oates for MU in a heartbeat
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I would have taken Oates for MU in a heartbeat
Sure. But it wasn't really an option.
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Sure. But it wasn't really an option.
Maybe he meant Tom Oates
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Is this De Sousa the same guy that went WWE with a chair at Kansas?
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Is this De Sousa the same guy that went WWE with a chair at Kansas?
Yes
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What is Chattanooga doing? Should be up 8-12.
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Curbelo still stinks
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Chattooga is throwing this game away.
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Total choke job by Chattanooga. Very, very, upsetting.
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Moccs went in full play not to lose mode over the last 4 minutes and lost because of it. Give the Illini credit on defense but the Moccs lost that game playing scared
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Moccs went in full play not to lose mode over the last 4 minutes and lost because of it. Give the Illini credit on defense but the Moccs lost that game playing scared
Absolutely. They literally threw that game away. No sympathy for the Mocs and their mindset.
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Why are the balls such a bright orange this year?
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Why are the balls such a bright orange this year?
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/why-brighter-orange-basketballs-are-being-used-in-the-ncaa-tournament/amp/
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Why are the balls such a bright orange this year?
Bedder dan blew, doe, hey?
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Surprised Wisconsin didn’t petition to use their stupid Spaulding balls
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Whisky is going to coast to the S16. Very, very, very, very. upsetting.
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Whisky is going to coast to the S16. Very, very, very, very. upsetting.
IDK, they don’t have a great history against lower level schools from Upstate NY that shoot the 3 well
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IDK, they don’t have a great history against lower level schools from Upstate NY that shoot the 3 well
We need Colgate to step-up. I have serious doubts about Iowa St.
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He lost his PG and best player in the first 5 min. His second best player had an off game, and ND had a nobody turn into Steph Curry. It happens.
Are you gonna gloat about every good coach who loses in the first round?
Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good narrative.
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whole lower bowl at fiserv is packed with badger fans. bs
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whole lower bowl at fiserv is packed with badger fans. bs
Did you expect different?
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Did you expect different?
nope just jelly
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This MSU/Davidson game is kind of a slog
Also, if Loyer from Davidson is 6’0, then Markus was 6’3
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Maybe he meant Tom Oates
Nersey Oats could dunk in high school.
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The Hall looks atrocious.
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Joey a perfect 8-8 so far, including three 3s. Michigan State's best player tonight.
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Colgate, despite shooting 40% from three on the year, can't buy one from deep. Of course.
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whole lower bowl at fiserv is packed with badger fans. bs
F ‘em
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Colgate, despite shooting 40% from three on the year, can't buy one from deep. Of course.
The competition is a bit of a step up.
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If Colgate’s big man could finish within 5 feet, they’d be up double digits
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Congrats to Brad Davison on his first field goal at Fiserv Forum. It only took him 3 games to get one.
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This MSU/Davidson game is kind of a slog
Also, if Loyer from Davidson is 6’0, then Markus was 6’3
The pace is pretty electric right now.
Crowd way into it too
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Joey’s bald spot is BAD! Give it up.
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Has anyone else noticed that cheerleaders from all teams have been wearing masks during the tournament but no one else has? What's the explanation on that one?
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How did 10 seed Davidson get a game so close to their campus? Kinda like 11 seed Michigan in Indy.
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Has anyone else noticed that cheerleaders from all teams have been wearing masks during the tournament but no one else has? What's the explanation on that one?
Probably for television. Gotta make it look real.
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Sparty is humming now
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The Hall is a complete disaster.
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Watching all this UW red in the FF makes me sick
I really hope in my lifetime MU will get
a “ home “ game in the NCAAT, like in Chicago or something
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Probably for television. Gotta make it look real.
Wrong.
NCAA protocol
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That nice finish to the half for Colgate doesn't hurt
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Wrong.
NCAA protocol
It's NCAA protocol for cheerleaders but no one else in the stadium?
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This Colgate team would be beating us by 20 at halftime.
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It's NCAA protocol for cheerleaders but no one else in the stadium?
Yes obviously.
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Hall might be gunning for our record.
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It's NCAA protocol for cheerleaders but no one else in the stadium?
Don’t question. Trust da science.
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Has anyone else noticed that cheerleaders from all teams have been wearing masks during the tournament but no one else has? What's the explanation on that one?
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They haven't looked at the calendar. Still think its Feb. 28, hey?
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That’s a garbage charge in the MSU game. Dude was moving. In circle or not. I just hate that stuff so much
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It's NCAA protocol for cheerleaders but no one else in the stadium?
https://www.outkick.com/cheerleaders-are-masked-during-ncaa-tournament-heres-why/
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Has anyone else noticed that cheerleaders from all teams have been wearing masks during the tournament but no one else has? What's the explanation on that one?
moronic virtue signal. so silly. if its so dangerous why even allow cheer leaders.
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moronic virtue signal. so silly. if its so dangerous why even allow cheer leaders.
Gotta protect those tier 1 individuals, ya know.
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That’s a garbage charge in the MSU game. Dude was moving. In circle or not. I just hate that stuff so much
Really bad.
Also when the guy "fouled " Joey, he already lost the ball.
Sparty won that game though. Great D the last 5 minutes. Davidson made a nice play to force a steal have a chance down 4 with 38 seconds left. Their big guy shoots possibly the dumbest shot in history then they clank another 3. Just play for a good shot.
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https://www.outkick.com/cheerleaders-are-masked-during-ncaa-tournament-heres-why/
Bizarre if that's accurate.
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Gotta protect those tier 1 individuals, ya know.
The press row in row 1 is all masked as well.
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They just called Davison “one of the great all time careers in Badger history”…sounds pretty ridiculous for a guy who has been there 6 years and made 1 All-Big 10
Third Team
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Wisconsin has 2 total fouls in 25 mins.
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These refs stink. Anticipation foul call on the break when Davison flails the ball out of bounds.
Then a questionable offensive foul on a Colgate dribble handoff.
And of course they don't buy the Colgate flop, allowing Wahl to just lay the ball in.
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33 lowered his head and bulls right thru the Colgate defender for 2. No call.
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Did they say how much the LSU players lost in post season bonuses?
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Crowl banks in a 3. JFC.
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Colgate is really battling despite a number of very questionable calls. Davis has not played well.
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For being 30 yrs old Davidson is not very good
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Colgate has gone cold. If they can heat back up, this game is there for the taking.
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Wisconsin just has too much size.
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Colgate has gone cold. If they can heat back up, this game is there for the taking.
This game was right there for them.. The coach waited too long to get their best guard back on the floor.
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Colgate has gone cold. If they can heat back up, this game is there for the taking.
Wisco stopped playing dumb defense and adjusted.
They kept following the Colgate guards on dribble penetration under the hoop which would leave wide open kick outs.
They have started staying on guys and running everyone off the 3 point line. Colgate hasnt scored in like 6 or 7 minutes,.
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Colgate ran out of gas. No energy and every shot is short.
And a no call on 3 point shot leads to a Davis breakaway dunk. Gameover.
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Wisconsin just has too much size.
And Colgate’s big man is an absolute scrub
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This game was right there for them.. The coach waited too long to get their best guard back on the floor.
And he's been ice cold from the floor since returning.
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I hate this. Every damn year.
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Colgate ran out of gas. No energy and every shot is short.
And a no call on 3 point shot leads to a Davis breakaway dunk. Gameover.
I couldn't see it clearly but was that a foul?
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Wisconsin bodies like that on every possession. And it's a clear foul that is usually not called.
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badgers dont get top recruits. badgers make the dance every year. they compete every year. prolly sweet 16 this year. must be nice
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Beers thrown on court.
WI fans giving MX soccer fans a run for their money
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I couldn't see it clearly but was that a foul?
Looked like Davis bumped the shooter running by.
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badgers dont get top recruits. badgers make the dance every year. they compete every year. prolly sweet 16 this year. must be nice
Hoping Iowa State can put up a fight. Maybe Hunter can catch fire again.
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There's no way Iowa St. beats Whisky.
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badgers really got a break drawing these guys.
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badgers really got a break drawing these guys.
Their whole draw was a gift. MKE-CHI in a soft region.
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There's no way Iowa St. beats Whisky.
I doubt it too, but stranger things have happened.
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Still can’t figure out how these guys got a HomeCourt advantage like this. I watched a ton of games last few days and have seen nothing like this.
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Colgate down 9 with a minute left…play straight up defense and then take 20 seconds to get a shot. Good lord
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I doubt it too, but stranger things have happened.
That team can't score. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think they match up well at all. The Colgate coach made a critical mistake not having their primary guard in the game when he got his 3rd foul. They lost all their rhythm and he went cold after sitting too long.
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That team can't score. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think they match up well at all. The Colgate coach made a critical mistake not having their primary guard in the game when he got his 3rd foul. They lost all their rhythm and he went cold after sitting too long.
Yeah.
I will be rooting for Kansas and Auburn to keep winning.
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I don’t understand why so many are bitching about Wisconsin playing in Milwaukee and then possibly Chicago. Who cares?
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That team can't score. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think they match up well at all. The Colgate coach made a critical mistake not having their primary guard in the game when he got his 3rd foul. They lost all their rhythm and he went cold after sitting too long.
They could have had John Wooden coaching them and it wouldn/t have made any difference. They were slow, small and couldn't shoot.
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Show me a one or two seed that they have this kind of location favoritism.
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I don’t understand why so many are bitching about Wisconsin playing in Milwaukee and then possibly Chicago. Who cares?
I just think people here despise Whisky and that's okay.
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this has to be the most favorable location in hustory. home game for bucky till the final 4. idk what to do but this is bull s hit. never seen this before. just a joke. let mu play in fiserv then
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I don’t understand why so many are bitching about Wisconsin playing in Milwaukee and then possibly Chicago. Who cares?
Exactly. They took care of business and good things happen. That used to be us.
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Wisconsin is going to go to another Final 4.
Iowa State is bad. Auburn is too hectic to beat a composed team like Wisconsin and Kansas is banged up.
Painful few weeks ahead.
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Show me a one or two seed that they have this kind of location favoritism.
Villanova in Philadelphia several times.
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let mu play in fiserv then
i bet we could beat Colgate in Milwaukee. But I bet UWM could beat Colgate in Milwaukee.
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Wisconsin is going to go to another Final 4.
Iowa State is bad. Auburn is too hectic to beat a composed team like Wisconsin and Kansas is banged up.
Painful few weeks ahead.
Yup. Gonna be brutal. I should leave town until Opening Day.
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Wisconsin just struggled to beat Colgate at home. Relax.
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I just think people here despise Whisky and that's okay.
That’s fine, hate all you want.
They’re a 3 seed, there was no other obvious top seed going to the Milwaukee pod. They got placed in the Midwest/Chicago, good for them.
The locations are picked years in advance. They are good the year the locations worked in their favor, so be it.
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The badgers got a very favorable draw but give their fans credit for coming out and packing the place. The game was louder than any Fiserv MU game by a large margin. I’m a diehard MU fan and have been going to games my whole life and I’ll confidently say that MU fans suck in comparison.
If MU got an equally favorable draw, say in Chicago or Madison, it’d be a very weak showing guaranteed.
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It's just annoying that Wisconsin is a top 15 team every time Milwaukee hosts. Can't they be a 10 seed for once?
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Easy to show up and be loud when you're good every year.
MU has their work cut out to even get near that point.
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Exactly. They took care of business and good things happen. That used to be us.
I mean, not really. Let’s look at our last four tourney appearance.
2019, as a 5 seed play an under seeded Murray St. that had the best player in college basketball at the time.
2017 as a 7 seed play a lower seeded South Carolina team in South Carolina l.
2013 as a three seed faced a criminally underseeded Davidson team.
2012 as a three seed was the most egregious, got thrown all the way out in the West region, and played Murray St IN KENTUCKY, in the second round. Oh and played BYU in the first round as well.
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The badgers got a very favorable draw but give their fans credit for coming out and packing the place. The game was louder than any Fiserv MU game by a large margin. I’m a diehard MU fan and have been going to games my whole life and I’ll confidently say that MU fans suck in comparison.
If MU got an equally favorable draw, say in Chicago or Madison, it’d be a very weak showing guaranteed.
Maybe because they have thousands more graduates and Walmart badger fans?
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I mean, not really. Let’s look at our last four tourney appearance.
2019, as a 5 seed play an under seeded Murray St. that had the best player in college basketball at the time.
2017 as a 7 seed play a lower seeded South Carolina team in South Carolina l.
2013 as a three seed faced a criminally underseeded Davidson team.
2012 as a three seed was the most egregious, got thrown all the way out in the West region, and played Murray St IN KENTUCKY, in the second round. Oh and played BYU in the first round as well.
Marquette was the #10 seed in 2017. Still wasn’t pleasant that a 7 seed got to play at home.
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Yeah.
I will be rooting for Kansas and Auburn to keep winning.
Two slimy coaches, but go ahead, continue to be a spoil sport.
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https://www.outkick.com/cheerleaders-are-masked-during-ncaa-tournament-heres-why/
Its theater, aina?
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It's just annoying that Wisconsin is a top 15 team every time Milwaukee hosts. Can't they be a 10 seed for once?
I know it feels like it, but they aren't. They were here in 1999 and 2014, but not in 2010 (despite being a 4-seed) or 2017. The biggest BS was getting Milwaukee as a 6-seed in 1999, giving 3-seed Pitt a second round road game, though UW lost.
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Ya know what, UW has earned it. Like it or not, they're one hell of a program with an absolute stud in Davis leading the way. That's what great players do. They don't go 2 for 15 from the field in the Tournament. JL can't carry Davis' Bike, hey?
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I know it feels like it, but they aren't. They were here in 1999 and 2014, but not in 2010 (despite being a 4-seed) or 2017. The biggest BS was getting Milwaukee as a 6-seed in 1999, giving 3-seed Pitt a second round road game, though UW lost.
I stand corrected.
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I understand I don’t live in Wisconsin so it’s not in my face all the time, but it was known for awhile that they were probably going to Milwaukee, and yes, they earned it.
In 203 we went to Indianapolis and Minneapolis, remember. We had earned it. I remember reading that Kentucky fans were mad because they were the higher seed but it felt like a home game for MU ( yeah, no sympathy there). Indy was great for me, probably the only time my undergrad and grad alma maters, MU and Illinois, will ever be assigned to the same site..
The thought that that they get more assistance than others is almost laughable - how many times over the years have people pointed out the times North Carolina and Duke were playing close to home, as it seemed there was always a sub regional or regional ( as we used to call them) in North Carolina?
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I understand I don’t live in Wisconsin so it’s not in my face all the time, but it was known for awhile that they were probably going to Milwaukee, and yes, they earned it.
In 203 we went to Indianapolis and Minneapolis, remember. We had earned it. I remember reading that Kentucky fans were mad because they were the higher seed but it felt like a home game for MU ( yeah, no sympathy there). Indy was great for me, probably the only time my undergrad and grad alma maters, MU and Illinois, will ever be assigned to the same site..
The thought that that they get more assistance than others is almost laughable - how many times over the years have people pointed out the times North Carolina and Duke were playing close to home, as it seemed there was always a sub regional or regional ( as we used to call them) in North Carolina?
Where's the victim mentality? Real Marquette fans feel that the entire college basketball establishment is against them and wants UW to win at all costs.
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Show me a one or two seed that they have this kind of location favoritism.
I’ll give you a three instead. Marquette 2003
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Two slimy coaches, but go ahead, continue to be a spoil sport.
Barry and Bo ain't much better. Two vile human beings. Pick your poison, aina?
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badgers really got a break drawing these guys.
Did they? Thought Colgate was pretty clearly the best 14 seed.
Their 6/11 pairing was the true gift.
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Wisconsin is going to go to another Final 4.
Iowa State is bad. Auburn is too hectic to beat a composed team like Wisconsin and Kansas is banged up.
Painful few weeks ahead.
Don’t think so. Auburn is going to smoke them barring a really tight whistle.
This UW team is not like previous iterations who have made runs.
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Don’t think so. Auburn is going to smoke them barring a really tight whistle.
This UW team is not like previous iterations who have made runs.
They’re one of the worst shooting teams in the nation and one guy dominates the ball, albeit a really good one guy. He isn’t terribly efficient, either. This isn’t the 14-15 team. They’re a measly 1-point favorite on KenPom against a mediocre Iowa State team
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FYI the Rodents are -4.5 as of this morning ! ! ! 8-)
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Despite a huge step up in circumstances and competition, Colgate came into the most hostile environment any team will have to face in this tournament and gave the Badgers a run for their money. They had a 5 point lead in the second half, and for 35 minutes they had the Badgers and their fans on edge. They just didn’t have what it took to hang for the full 40, but that was a performance the players and their fans can be proud of. I hope their coach told them as much after the game. He did a heck of a job getting them ready, too.
Compare that to Marquette getting run out of the gym by a forgettable UNC team, and, well, there is no comparison.
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Man I wish we were playing this game right now. Rooting for Baylor but I think UNC has the edge.
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Looks like a 1 vs 8 game, except NC is the 1. Lucky us.
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We need to learn how to take some charges moving forward. I can't stand most of the charge calls but it's part of the college game.
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We need to learn how to take some charges moving forward. I can't stand most of the charge calls but it's part of the college game.
South Carolina beat Marquette in a round one game and road the momentum all the way to the Final Four. North Carolina is capable of doing the same.
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South Carolina beat Marquette in a round one game and road the momentum all the way to the Final Four. North Carolina is capable of doing the same.
They're dangerous if Love and Davis play this way.
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Baylor is toast. The top two seeds in the East are gone
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R.J. Davis is a stud. What might have been.
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NC throws another team in a locker. The only question is margin of victory and still 12 to play.
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This is a really impressive performance by UNC. Because Baylor is very good defensively. I'm not sure they will keep playing at this level but clearly they can beat anyone.
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My previous not aging well. Didn't expect a team up by 25 to stupidly turn this into a WCW event.
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Baylor is toast. The top two seeds in the East are gone
Idiot
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Idiot
LOL. Don't be so hard on yourself!
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These officials should never officiate another game in the history of Earth
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These officials should never officiate another game in the history of Earth
Couldn't agree more. About as bad as I've ever seen.
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Couldn't agree more. About as bad as I've ever seen.
Worst I’ve seen since the Marquette - Seton Hall Big East Tournament game a few years back.
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Did they? Thought Colgate was pretty clearly the best 14 seed.
Their 6/11 pairing was the true gift.
Pretty sad comment on the other 3.
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Don’t think so. Auburn is going to smoke them barring a really tight whistle.
This UW team is not like previous iterations who have made runs.
Auburn plays unhinged. They are a very emotional team. Wisconsin is the exact type of team that knows how to fluster and bury a team like that.
Kansas is our only hope.
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Auburn plays unhinged. They are a very emotional team. Wisconsin is the exact type of team that knows how to fluster and bury a team like that.
Kansas is our only hope.
No
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Auburn plays unhinged. They are a very emotional team. Wisconsin is the exact type of team that knows how to fluster and bury a team like that.
Kansas is our only hope.
Just like MU was in danger of missing the Tournament the afternoon of March 5.
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No
He’s not wrong - Johnson and Greene, mostly Johnson can very easily shoot them out of a game.
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He’s not wrong - Johnson and Greene, mostly Johnson can very easily shoot them out of a game.
And they can run the Badgers out of the gym, too. This isn’t the grind them out Badgers of yore. This is the quickest tempo team in recent memory for them. Do they play slower than Auburn? Yes, but this isn’t Virginia
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Kaluma is gonna be a damn problem.
Hopefully he gets some blueblood NIL offers
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Kaluma is gonna be a damn problem.
Hopefully he gets some blueblood NIL offers
McDermott should win coach of the decade if Creighton pulls this off. What a job he's done this year with this young, undermanned team.
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McDermott should win coach of the decade if Creighton pulls this off. What a job he's done this year with this young, undermanned team.
He really has been remarkable
Last year he had a really stupid slip up, but this year is showing why they didnt quickly cut ties with a guy who had 1 mistake.
Hell of a coach
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And they can run the Badgers out of the gym, too. This isn’t the grind them out Badgers of yore. This is the quickest tempo team in recent memory for them. Do they play slower than Auburn? Yes, but this isn’t Virginia
One likely scenario is KD shooting them out of a game like what happened in the a&m game.
They can also run Wisconsin out.
its crazy but there are multiple possible outcomes.
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One likely scenario is KD shooting them out of a game like what happened in the a&m game.
They can also run Wisconsin out.
its crazy but there are multiple possible outcomes.
I think it's a real possibility that Auburn is done tomorrow without the possibility of playing Wisconsin.
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One likely scenario is KD shooting them out of a game like what happened in the a&m game.
They can also run Wisconsin out.
its crazy but there are multiple possible outcomes.
We’re in agreement here, lol.
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I think it's a real possibility that Auburn is done tomorrow without the possibility of playing Wisconsin.
Highly doubtful.
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Highly doubtful.
Can't be forgotten that Wisconsin will have a 70+% crowd in Chicago next weekend.
Whatever. I wanna be done talking about this because I hate it.
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Can't be forgotten that Wisconsin will have a 70+% crowd in Chicago next weekend.
Whatever. I wanna be done talking about this because I hate it.
Lol. Kansas will have 85% of the crowd.
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Pretty amazing that Creighton is in this game.
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Can't be forgotten that Wisconsin will have a 70+% crowd in Chicago next weekend.
Whatever. I wanna be done talking about this because I hate it.
Kansas will have twice the amount of fans there than Wisconsin.
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Marquette’s previous three March Madness first round matchups:
#7 South Carolina (Final Four)
#12 Murray State (NBA HoF Ja Morant)
#8 UNC (probable Final Four)
There can’t be an unluckier team in the country over their last three tournament appearances.
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Kaluma appears to be the real deal. Kansas looks like they're choking a bit.
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Kansas will have twice the amount of fans there than Wisconsin.
Not if Creighton beats em.
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McDermott should win coach of the decade if Creighton pulls this off. What a job he's done this year with this young, undermanned team.
McDermott, Cooley, Wright. Some excellent coaches in the BE.
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You really have to give Creighton a ton of credit. They'll be really good if Kaluma and Kalky come back.
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Not if Creighton beats em.
Boy I really put the whammy on them here. Jeez.
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You really have to give Creighton a ton of credit. They'll be really good if Kaluma and Kalky come back.
Yep. Great effort in this tournament. It looks like Sean Miller to Xavier is a done deal.
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Creighton lost but they were the most impressive Big East team this last few weeks.
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What's their recruiting class like?
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Creighton lost but they were the most impressive Big East team this last few weeks.
Let’s go Nova and Providence. I hate to see the BE down to two teams.
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Let’s go Nova and Providence. I hate to see the BE down to two teams.
Providence caught a break getting Richmond (famous last words). Nova will have to earn it against Ohio State
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Creighton lost but they were the most impressive Big East team this last few weeks.
Yeah the coaching job McDermott did was one of the best I've ever seen. By far the best in the Big East this year. Lost 2 starters in the off-season, 3 more during the year, and transformed his up-tempo offense into a tough defense oriented squad.
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Maybe because they have thousands more graduates and Walmart badger fans?
UofDane Cty rodents are everywhere. I’m golfing in Florida. Get paired with a dude wearing a Badger shirt. I’m full McEnroe…you can’t be serious?!!!
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Barry and Bo ain't much better. Two vile human beings. Pick your poison, aina?
100%
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Yeah the coaching job McDermott did was one of the best I've ever seen. By far the best in the Big East this year. Lost 2 starters in the off-season, 3 more during the year, and transformed his up-tempo offense into a tough defense oriented squad.
Huge respect to McDermott and Creighton, both today and all season. I thought KU covering was a slam dunk. Wrong!
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Michigan’s uniforms are awful.
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Michigan’s uniforms are awful.
It’s their ‘89 uniforms
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Yep. Great effort in this tournament. It looks like Sean Miller to Xavier is a done deal.
Xavier with the equivalent of Saudi oil money for a premier league team
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The ‘dence needs to keep the pedal to the metal and crush the Spiders
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How come I was vilified and excoriated beyond reason when I called them "The Dence"? WTF? Anyway, Prov is having a rare good shooting game so far.
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How come I was vilified and excoriated beyond reason when I called them "The Dence"? WTF? Anyway, Prov is having a rare good shooting game so far.
I didn’t vilify you
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I didn’t vilify you
Alright. I can't keep track of all the culprits.
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Wisconsin is going to frustrate the hell out of Auburn.
BUT...Pearl is a good enough coach to know how to shut down Davis. And I just don't think UW is going to be able to score enough.
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Wisconsin is going to frustrate the hell out of Auburn.
BUT...Pearl is a good enough coach to know how to shut down Davis. And I just don't think UW is going to be able to score enough.
Do we know Auburn will beat Miami? I hope you're right but am concerned Whisky will make a deep run.
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Do we know Auburn will beat Miami? I hope you're right but am concerned Whisky will make a deep run.
Auburn will beat Miami. Do we know if UW-Madison will beat Iowa State?
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Dickinson is having a huge game.
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Not happy that Michigan looks like they're going to take out Tennessee.
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5 straight Sweet 16’s for Michigan. 3 in a row as a coach for Juwan Howard. UW-Madison fans apoplectic
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5 straight Sweet 16’s for Michigan. 3 in a row as a coach for Juwan Howard. UW-Madison fans apoplectic
Only second in a row for Howard. Postseason cancelled in his first season.
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Only second in a row for Howard. Postseason cancelled in his first season.
My bad. Thought he was there in ‘19
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Congrats to Providence for getting to their 1st S16 in 25 yrs.
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Congrats to Providence for getting to their 1st S16 in 25 yrs.
Good for Providence. Been a long time coming.
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Congrats to Providence for getting to their 1st S16 in 25 yrs.
We should stop crapping on their season. Outright BE champs and a second weekend appearance. 27-5 currently. Would kill for a season like theirs right now.
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We should stop crapping on their season. Outright BE champs and a second weekend appearance. 27-5 currently. Would kill for a season like theirs right now.
Yup. Said it all year, they’ve been incredibly lucky this year but no other fanbase would trade what the Friars have accomplished so far. PU fans should enjoy every second
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We should stop crapping on their season. Outright BE champs and a second weekend appearance. 27-5 currently. Would kill for a season like theirs right now.
Great comment.
And kudos to The Provi.
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We should stop crapping on their season. Outright BE champs and a second weekend appearance. 27-5 currently. Would kill for a season like theirs right now.
I wasn't being sarcastic. Congrats to them.
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Yup. Said it all year, they’ve been incredibly lucky this year but no other fanbase would trade what the Friars have accomplished so far. PU fans should enjoy every second
Why should Purdue University be joyous, hey?
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I'm cheering for Butch Lee's son to make the sweet 16. The games today have been full of exciting moments!
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Yup. Said it all year, they’ve been incredibly lucky this year but no other fanbase would trade what the Friars have accomplished so far. PU fans should enjoy every second
Why is Providence considered lucky? Luck is hitting to 21 in Black Jack all night long or pulling a lever and landing triple 7's on a slot machine. Winning close games is about skill, composure and desire. KenPom's IBM computer calls a team lucky and that makes it so? Providence is just a damn good basketball team this year.
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If Saint Peter's pulls this off I think it's as big a Cinderella story as we have ever seen in the history of the tournament. This is a team that was 12-11. They had 5 games canceled because of covid in Dec/Jan. Most people had no idea where the school was located until Thursday night. And Murray St. is freaking good. This is a 30-2 team.
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What an incredible win for the Peacocks!!
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Aw, I feel so bad for those Murray State fans….
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If I were Georgetown, I’d fire Ewing and ask Holloway “how much you need?”.
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What an incredible win for the Peacocks!!
Butch Lee is going back to the sweet 16!!!!!!!
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Willard already has ordained him the next Seton Hall coach.
If I were Georgetown, I’d fire Ewing and ask Holloway “how much you need?”.
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Meanwhile....Gonzaga down 10 at the half.
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Butch Lee is going back to the sweet 16!!!!!!!
Wojo passed on Lee. Wrong Jesuit team in S16. Fire Shaka.
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Is that Ted Cruz coaching NMSU?
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Is that Ted Cruz coaching NMSU?
LOL!
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Really bad coaching decision by Penny.
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Bates having to be on the court for Memphis is an awful thing. He might’ve been the most overhyped player I’ve ever seen.
And I’d be absolutely terrified of taking Chet Holmgren in the top 3 of the NBA Draft. College kids are just going into his chest and he can’t contest shots. What is Giannis going to do to him?
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Why is Providence considered lucky? Luck is hitting to 21 in Black Jack all night long or pulling a lever and landing triple 7's on a slot machine. Winning close games is about skill, composure and desire. KenPom's IBM computer calls a team lucky and that makes it so? Providence is just a damn good basketball team this year.
Statistically, you're wrong about close games. In addition to being lucky in close games, they had three of their toughest conference games cancelled and managed to play a ton of teams with their best players missing, such as Wisconsin without Davis and UConn without Sanogo. As efficiency is determined on overall possessions, their tendency to get destroyed in losses (Virginia, at Marquette, Creighton) shows how much their close wins are more a function of good luck rather than tangible skill.
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Gonzaga might consider making a free throw.
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Isn’t it so much better watching these games without worrying that your team will crap the bed on national tv?
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The thing about Holmgren (and I've been saying this all year) is that he appears to be at minimum 2yrs away. So while I get the draft is about potential let's say he's more like 3yrs away? Who knows if he will sign a 2nd contract with the team that drafts him? I think he's got a ton of tools and will definitely get heavier and stronger but I still think he's a risk. Unless the draft is horrifically bad and there are no great players.
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I know it feels like it, but they aren't. They were here in 1999 and 2014, but not in 2010 (despite being a 4-seed) or 2017. The biggest BS was getting Milwaukee as a 6-seed in 1999, giving 3-seed Pitt a second round road game, though UW lost.
Brew, they played Pitt in 2004 at the BC. The Devin Harris Carl Krauser matchup.
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Statistically, you're wrong about close games. In addition to being lucky in close games, they had three of their toughest conference games cancelled and managed to play a ton of teams with their best players missing, such as Wisconsin without Davis and UConn without Sanogo. As efficiency is determined on overall possessions, their tendency to get destroyed in losses (Virginia, at Marquette, Creighton) shows how much their close wins are more a function of good luck rather than tangible skill.
LOL. Respect your hate for PC.
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Penny deserves a lot of the crap he got earlier in the season, but he deserves credit for turning that team around.
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Brew, they played Pitt in 2004 at the BC. The Devin Harris Carl Krauser matchup.
Flipped 1999 and 2004.
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I love the Providence University vs University of Marquette rivalry.
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The thing about Holmgren (and I've been saying this all year) is that he appears to be at minimum 2yrs away. So while I get the draft is about potential let's say he's more like 3yrs away? Who knows if he will sign a 2nd contract with the team that drafts him? I think he's got a ton of tools and will definitely get heavier and stronger but I still think he's a risk. Unless the draft is horrifically bad and there are no great players.
This draft is horrifically bad and there are no great players.
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The thing about Holmgren (and I've been saying this all year) is that he appears to be at minimum 2yrs away. So while I get the draft is about potential let's say he's more like 3yrs away? Who knows if he will sign a 2nd contract with the team that drafts him? I think he's got a ton of tools and will definitely get heavier and stronger but I still think he's a risk. Unless the draft is horrifically bad and there are no great players.
How is Holmgren 2 years away and #10 should go now, hey?
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Heartwarming images of Howard comforting an inconsolable Tennessee player.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/03/20/USAT/3b78b5a6-c487-4075-a5e7-4eff076582d7-USATSI_17933035.jpg?width=660&height=440&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
I'm glad the powers-that-be didn't overreact to the fight with Wisconsin. 5 games was a fair punishment. From all I've heard about Howard, although he is a flawed human being (as we all are), he cares deeply about the athletes he coaches -- and, as that scene shows, even the athletes he doesn't coach.
I'm a big believer in second chances. I hope Howard continues to take advantage of his. From here on out, there obviously should be a zero-tolerance policy regarding him when it comes to altercations with others.
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Heartwarming images of Howard comforting an inconsolable Tennessee player.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/03/20/USAT/3b78b5a6-c487-4075-a5e7-4eff076582d7-USATSI_17933035.jpg?width=660&height=440&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
I'm glad the powers-that-be didn't overreact to the fight with Wisconsin. 5 games was a fair punishment. From all I've heard about Howard, although he is a flawed human being (as we all are), he cares deeply about the athletes he coaches -- and, as that scene shows, even the athletes he doesn't coach.
I'm a big believer in second chances. I hope Howard continues to take advantage of his. From here on out, there obviously should be a zero-tolerance policy regarding him when it comes to altercations with others.
My second chances only apply to my teams and my politicians
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First to 40 in this Houston/Illini gane?
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Xavier leading Florida 19-9 in the NIT. On ESPN.
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Xavier leading Florida 19-9 in the NIT. On ESPN.
Excellent contribution to the NCAA dance thread.
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Why is Providence considered lucky? Luck is hitting to 21 in Black Jack all night long or pulling a lever and landing triple 7's on a slot machine. Winning close games is about skill, composure and desire. KenPom's IBM computer calls a team lucky and that makes it so? Providence is just a damn good basketball team this year.
I think even Pomeroy explains that what he labels “luck” is not luck in the sense of pure dumb luck. It’s just a shorthand way of saying that a team’s W-L record is better than what you might expect from some of the raw numbers. You can decide for yourself if you think that’s dumb luck or a reflection of food clutch play when things are right.
Similar to a baseball team that wins a lot of one run games
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I don't think I've seen these Illini Freshmen play all season.
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Lol. What a terrible technical foul call.
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That technical is an embarrassment to the sport
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Officials proving inept again in the Houston v. Illinois matchup.
Technicals were absurd in our game.
The officiating in the UNC v. Baylor game was criminal.
Now more absurd T's in the Houston game.
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Lol. What a terrible technical foul call.
That was awful.
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Houston is impressive. They have athletes all over the place.
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Nads, as I'm certain you know, Howard has a long standing relationship with the player. Not only did Howard recruit this kid, but his son was a teammate of his in AAU ball, aina?
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Assuming Zona rolls TCU, Houston- Arizona in the Sweet 16 is a national championship level matchup
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Anybody else catch the very end of one of the camera shots of Kofi trying to slam on the brakes as he pursued the ball going out of bounds? Just before the end of the camera shot, a guy sitting at a desk with a laptop saw Kofi coming straight at him and ducked under the desk. Only his hands were visible on the edge of the desk. I would have done the same thing, right after my life flashed before my eyes.
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Heartwarming images of Howard comforting an inconsolable Tennessee player.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/03/20/USAT/3b78b5a6-c487-4075-a5e7-4eff076582d7-USATSI_17933035.jpg?width=660&height=440&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
I'm glad the powers-that-be didn't overreact to the fight with Wisconsin. 5 games was a fair punishment. From all I've heard about Howard, although he is a flawed human being (as we all are), he cares deeply about the athletes he coaches -- and, as that scene shows, even the athletes he doesn't coach.
I'm a big believer in second chances. I hope Howard continues to take advantage of his. From here on out, there obviously should be a zero-tolerance policy regarding him when it comes to altercations with others.
Funny story. One of my best friends in high school was a walk on for Michigan basketball and was a senior captain for UM the year the Fab Five came on the scene as freshmen. At dinner a couple years later a bunch of us asked him abut that experience and wanted to know which if the Fab Five caused the most problems behind the scenes. According to my friend, Rose and Weber were pretty mellow off the court and didn't get into any kind of trouble. The worst of the five he said was Juwan Howard, who broke team rules left and right, never made curfew on the road and gave the coaches hell. Anytime they tried to challenge him he'd threaten to transfer. Ironic then that he was the first to graduate and is now the head coach.
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What a total joke offensive foul call on Moore. This crap needs to stop.
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What a total joke offensive foul call on Moore. This crap needs to stop.
Yeah, that was a baaaad call.
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What a total joke offensive foul call on Moore. This crap needs to stop.
Yes, bad calls should be stopped
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Yes, bad calls should be stopped
It's not a "bad call", it's a call that should never be made.
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4th best BE PG showing out already against OSU.
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Sweet Jesus. You have gotta be kidding me with that bank triple by Liddell. Nova should be up 15, smh.
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The thing about Holmgren (and I've been saying this all year) is that he appears to be at minimum 2yrs away. So while I get the draft is about potential let's say he's more like 3yrs away? Who knows if he will sign a 2nd contract with the team that drafts him? I think he's got a ton of tools and will definitely get heavier and stronger but I still think he's a risk. Unless the draft is horrifically bad and there are no great players.
He will be an NBA all-star.
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Assuming Zona rolls TCU, Houston- Arizona in the Sweet 16 is a national championship level matchup
With the caveat that my bracket is a shambles, I don't think Arizona beating TCU is a safe assumption at all.
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Houston is impressive. They have athletes all over the place.
I was thinking the same as I was watching it. And they are well-coached, too. They are being rewarded for taking a "chance" on Sampson, whose violations (relative to others) were actually quite mild.
I think brewski was one here who was saying that it was too bad MU didn't consider Sampson. And it's hard to argue with that. The guy can recruit and coach.
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I was thinking the same as I was watching it. And they are well-coached, too. They are being rewarded for taking a "chance" on Sampson, whose violations (relative to others) were actually quite mild.
I think brewski was one here who was saying that it was too bad MU didn't consider Sampson. And it's hard to argue with that. The guy can recruit and coach.
If he hadn’t done what he did at Indiana, that’s a great what-if. Lot of dominoes fell with his dismissal
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Nads, as I'm certain you know, Howard has a long standing relationship with the player. Not only did Howard recruit this kid, but his son was a teammate of his in AAU ball, aina?
Cool story.
Funny story. One of my best friends in high school was a walk on for Michigan basketball and was a senior captain for UM the year the Fab Five came on the scene as freshmen. At dinner a couple years later a bunch of us asked him abut that experience and wanted to know which if the Fab Five caused the most problems behind the scenes. According to my friend, Rose and Weber were pretty mellow off the court and didn't get into any kind of trouble. The worst of the five he said was Juwan Howard, who broke team rules left and right, never made curfew on the road and gave the coaches hell. Anytime they tried to challenge him he'd threaten to transfer. Ironic then that he was the first to graduate and is now the head coach.
Good thing that people grow up. Howard has had half a lifetime of experiences since then.
He never should have struck out at Krabbenhoft. He deserved to be suspended, and he was. As I said, he'd be under a zero-tolerance policy with me now if I were his AD/president. But I certainly wouldn't have fired him. It seems his players would run through a wall for him. That edginess reminds me of Al, who is celebrated by many Scoopers for punching one of his own players in the face.
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Cool story.
Good thing that people grow up. Howard has had half a lifetime of experiences since then.
He never should have struck out at Krabbenhoft. He deserved to be suspended, and he was. As I said, he'd be under a zero-tolerance policy with me now if I were his AD/president. But I certainly wouldn't have fired him. It seems his players would run through a wall for him. That edginess reminds me of Al, who is celebrated by many Scoopers for punching one of his own players in the face.
Yeah, but Al was white
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Cool story.
Good thing that people grow up. Howard has had half a lifetime of experiences since then.
He never should have struck out at Krabbenhoft. He deserved to be suspended, and he was. As I said, he'd be under a zero-tolerance policy with me now if I were his AD/president. But I certainly wouldn't have fired him. It seems his players would run through a wall for him. That edginess reminds me of Al, who is celebrated by many Scoopers for punching one of his own players in the face.
Bernard Toone thrived on that. Krabbenhoft? deserved a b-slap simply by being RED.
Out.
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Cool story.
Good thing that people grow up. Howard has had half a lifetime of experiences since then.
He never should have struck out at Krabbenhoft. He deserved to be suspended, and he was. As I said, he'd be under a zero-tolerance policy with me now if I were his AD/president. But I certainly wouldn't have fired him. It seems his players would run through a wall for him. That edginess reminds me of Al, who is celebrated by many Scoopers for punching one of his own players in the face.
There is also the flip side of the images. Howard's players know he will be there to console them when they are down, and will literally fight for them. He threw punches at Krabbenhoft, because he threatened one of his players.
That can sell well to recruits. I will throw hands to protect you...but will be there for your when you are at your lowest.
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Lots of whistles down the stretch here in the OSU vs. Nova game.
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VU-OSU has turned into the game Kevin Harlan was born to call.
Come on Nova.
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Good grief what happened??
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Ohio State as a 7 seed playing 2.5 hours from Columbus makes all the sense in the world.
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Another nice placement for a Big Ten team in the tourney and the building is packed with OSU fans. For a 7 seed.
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Whistles everytime down the floor!!
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Ohio State as a 7 seed playing 2.5 hours from Columbus makes all the sense in the world.
The placement of certain teams this year seemed puzzling to me
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liddells foot was out of bounds
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The placement of certain teams this year seemed puzzling to me
They only care about the higher seed’s placement.
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will the big 10 go 0-5 today?
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Glad Nova won. So mentally tough. Ohio State rallied, but Nova just kept doing their thing -- take care of the ball, get it to the right people, make FTs, hit a clutch 3, play tough D. A joy to watch.
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They only care about the higher seed’s placement.
I don’t like it and I expect Scoop to change it and agree with me
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I don’t like it and I expect Scoop to change it and agree with me
We need Topper to make it so.
Unfortunately it's his birthday and he's off today.
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Glad Nova won. So mentally tough. Ohio State rallied, but Nova just kept doing their thing -- take care of the ball, get it to the right people, make FTs, hit a clutch 3, play tough D. A joy to watch.
There is not a single coach in today's game better than Jay Wright.
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Weird to see Theo and Joey on the court on opposite teams together for a brief moment.
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Joey just whiffed on a o-reb.
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Thought the reds did pretty well in the UW-Colgate game, but ISU is not going to get one call tonight.
They really struggle to score.
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There is not a single coach in today's game better than Jay Wright.
No argument. If I could hire any coach today, it would be Wright. But he has absolutely no reason to leave Villanova, so I can't use my bazillions to hire him for Marquette, darn it!
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Iowa St. unfortunately can't score and will get into foul trouble.
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There is not a single coach in today's game better than Jay Wright.
No doubt about it
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Iowa St. could have 20 fouls by halftime.
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Iowa St. could have 20 fouls by halftime.
Iowa State fouls a lot. They have all year. One of the worst in the nation at not fouling
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Glad to see Hunter is back to shooting bricks when he’s most needed ::)
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Yikes. That looked bad.
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Watching the Badgers is like watching the 6ers. Flop, flop, flop, flop. Get every whistle.
An illegal screen by UW pushes the ISU defender into the UW ball handler. Block on ISU. An illegal screen by ISU pushes the UW defender into the ISU ball handler. Offensive foul on ISU.
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13 to 2 in free throws btw.
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UW asks for a review of the clock at 1.2. The refs give them the review, it clearly went out of bounds at 1.6…and they leave the clock at 1.2.
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UW asks for a review of the clock at 1.2. The refs give them the review, it clearly went out of bounds at 1.6…and they leave the clock at 1.2.
So obvious. just a lack of common sense. But IS scored anyhow.
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UW asks for a review of the clock at 1.2. The refs give them the review, it clearly went out of bounds at 1.6…and they leave the clock at 1.2.
Exactly
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Watching the Badgers is like watching the 6ers. Flop, flop, flop, flop. Get every whistle.
An illegal screen by UW pushes the ISU defender into the UW ball handler. Block on ISU. An illegal screen by ISU pushes the UW defender into the ISU ball handler. Offensive foul on ISU.
The home cooking will be worse in the second half.
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The Rodents will win, cuz the refs foul out the whole ISU team and UW will have 2 fouls ! ! ! 8-)
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Joey getting abused!!!!
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Bad decision by Joey with that one soft attack on Bamchero.
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Wisconsin's PG Chucky Hepburn ruled out for the 2nd half with an ankle injury.
Big blow for the Badgers and their already thin backcourt.
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Wisconsin's PG Chucky Hepburn ruled out for the 2nd half with an ankle injury.
Big blow for the Badgers and their already thin backcourt.
Don’t worry. The zebras got their back
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Big ten 0-3 this far!!
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Offensive fouls called on 3 straight trips down the court in the ISU vs UW game lol.
Davison is on the ground more than he’s on his feet.
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Davison calling his own foul while still dribbling. Bet he's fun at the rec center.
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If Iowa State has any players left at the end of the game, they have a real chance to win.
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My god the calls for the badgers
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That was a ludicrous call on the Davison three. Honestly it was a total joke.
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Davison kicks his leg out for the foul call. Not sure what thT last call was on the ISU offensive end.
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My god the calls for the badgers
I rarely complain about foul calls but this is beyond preposterous.
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The badgers are such a hatable team. Complain about every little single thing.
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I already hate wherever he is going to coach!!
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Googling Brad Davison and seeing all the Tweets that pop up is hilarious. It’s definitely not just MU fans that find him hatable. These commentators love the dude.
Guy acts like a 13 year old on the court.
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Bad decision by Joey with that one soft attack on Bamchero.
Still 6'10" making himself 6'4" by shrinking at the basket on drives.
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Love that Kalscheur refuses to miss that midrange
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Floppy McNutpuncher hurling himself as hard as possible at the floor yet again
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Shocker on that last foul call 40 feet from the rim.
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Don't even tempt the ref. The trap was working. Dumb foul.
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Iowa State's one hot offensive player fouling out is suboptimal.
Edit:
Never mind, my sports app was wrong.
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Wow. Please let Iowa St. finish this.
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UW and Iowa St are terrible offensive teams. They should both lose.
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This game = paint drying!!
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LOL no fouls on Whisky those last two plays.
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How was that not a 5th foul on Davison. Shoved the Iowa state player in the chest/face while going up for the steal.
Should be 2 shots for Iowa State.
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Definitely off Davison
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Definitely off Davison
Yep, hit yet another ball. Typical.
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Could have called about 3 more fouls on that inbounds as well.
Then about 3 fouls on the rebound, before them calling a jump ball.
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I’m at the game and with Warrior at Law. Neither team should advance.
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Yep, hit yet another ball. Typical.
That was beautiful
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Even my badger friends said this. At least the nut balls on this board that thought Bucky would win the national championship can step off the ledge.
This game = paint drying!!
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Even my badger friends said this. At least the nut balls on this board that thought Bucky would win the national championship can step off the ledge.
Around here we call them ‘Davisons’
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BAM!! See ya!!
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Told yeah, all
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0-4 Big ten!! Love it
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Buh-bye!
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Yep, hit yet another ball. Typical.
Nice.
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Phew
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All the dumb hot takes about people complaining about Wisconsin playing in Milwaukee.
It never mattered, it never does in March.
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0-4 Big ten!! Love it
Really made my day.
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The Badgers would not have won with Hepburn either.
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Thought Iowa State was a well coached hard nosed team. Bad environment, biased officiating, and they overcame it.
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Time for Davison to go punch some nuts in the Y league. 👀
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Now Notre Dame your next!!
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The Badgers would not have won with Hepburn either.
Not sure about that.
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Can't be forgotten that Wisconsin will have a 70+% crowd in Chicago next weekend.
Whatever. I wanna be done talking about this because I hate it.
Who are the 70+% crowd of Wisconsin fans cheering for in Chicago next weekend?
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All the dumb hot takes about people complaining about Wisconsin playing in Milwaukee.
It never mattered, it never does in March.
It matters.
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Auburn plays unhinged. They are a very emotional team. Wisconsin is the exact type of team that knows how to fluster and bury a team like that.
Kansas is our only hope.
Sad.
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It matters.
The final score suggests otherwise.
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The final score suggests otherwise.
It matters and Iowa St overcame it. Officiating matters too and they overcame that.
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Thought Iowa State was a well coached hard nosed team. Bad environment, biased officiating, and they overcame it.
Totally agree.
We talk about the refs deciding this and the refs deciding that, but Iowa State was mentally tough enough and made enough plays to ensure that the refs couldn't "steal" it from them.
As for Hunter ... even though he couldn't make a shot if his life depended on it, I was impressed with his floor presence, and he made a huge play to save the ball near the end of the game.
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The final score suggests otherwise.
That’s like saying home court doesn’t matter in sports.
UW clearly had an advantage by having a home court setting. That doesn’t guarantee they win.
What was silly is complaining about it. The Tourney is set up to give the top 4 seeds that advantage. They earned it with a strong regular season. They didn’t take advantage of it. On the ropes against Colgate and lost to Iowa State.
But it absolutely matters. There’s very little chance a team like South Carolina goes on the run they do in 2017 if they play Duke with a crowd of 80% Duke fans. They caught a huge break playing them with the crowd behind them.
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I wonder if Fiserv Forum security would let me in to watch the next game in Purdue/Texas. Should be good seats available. ;D ;D ;D
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I wonder if Fiserv Forum security would let me in to watch the next game in Purdue/Texas. Should be good seats available. ;D ;D ;D
Yeah that’s going to look awful on TV. Would’ve been a lot better to have the UW game the second game of the session.
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Not sure about that.
Fluffy, if the game was officiated properly Iowa St. wins comfortably even though they can't score.
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Johnny Davis shoots 4-14 on the biggest stage of his career. From what I’ve learned on Scoop, Johnny just fell out of the Draft and will be back at UW next year. #notready
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Totally agree.
Iowa State was mentally tough enough and made enough plays to ensure that the refs couldn't "steal" it from them.
Really like their body language throughout-they just looked confident. Badgers looked frustrated and very uptight.
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Davis is an great player obviously, but after watching him carry an otherwise meh Wisconsin team all year, it was delightful watching him go 4/16 and 0/7 as they flamed out
Also, it’s always amusing this time of year as the rest of the country is annoyed and baffled as the rediscover Wisconsin’s “defense” and flopping.
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No rushing the court today.
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What a dumb play by Notre Dame. Defenders back and the guy just grabs his jersey anyway.
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They can take the “Welcome to Milwaukee. Home of the Badgers” sign down now.
https://twitter.com/deerdistrict/status/1505642718072029190?s=21
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Big 10 once again with an absolute flameout in the NCAA. 9 bids. Only 1 potential Sweet 16 team. A lot like Big 10 football - never really relevant on the national scene, and consistently overrated.
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Never been happier to be wrong. Thought this UW team had a horseshoe up their arse this year and expected the worst.
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Big 10 once again with an absolute flameout in the NCAA. 9 bids. Only 1 potential Sweet 16 team. A lot like Big 10 football - never really relevant on the national scene, and consistently overrated.
Purdue and Michigan?
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Wow, I took a several minute stroll through the Twitter search “Wisconsin”. There are A LOT of people who dislike Wisconsin, and not one appeared to be a Marquette follower.
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Auburn down 1 at the half.
Thank goodness Iowa State took care of business.
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Davis is an great player obviously, but after watching him carry an otherwise meh Wisconsin team all year, it was delightful watching him go 4/16 and 0/7 as they flamed out
Also, it’s always amusing this time of year as the rest of the country is annoyed and baffled as the rediscover Wisconsin’s “defense” and flopping.
He's gone....although he had a rough game.
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Stunned Notre Dame could win this one.
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Texas Tech is very bland
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TT can't make a layup.
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Badgers looked like they had tired legs.
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Wow, ND with a complete collapse
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This night keeps getting better!!
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Why would you dunk that?
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Wonderful day for schadenfreude.
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Ty TTU. :)
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W / UW losing (!) …
I can now go back to watching/ enjoying the tournament
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Jabari Smith 2/13 from the field on the biggest stage he’s ever played on. A lot of thought to be top picks playing their way out of the NBA Draft this weekend.
Look for Taze Moore, Jermaine Samuels, Brady Manek, RJ Davis, and KC Ndefo to be your top 5 picks this year.
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Purdue on a solid 22-0 run against Chris Beard
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Texas lead 14-8 with 15:27 left and didn’t score again until 5:23 left in the 1st half.
That’s some coaching
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When Auburn’s guards are a hot mess, they implode as a team. Miami is running and gunning out there right now.
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Also, Auburn against UW-Madison would have been…interesting, as some warned me.
But maybe we’ll get Iowa State-Miami instead 🤷🏼♂️
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You’re welcome, Texas
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Auburn is out of control
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Auburn is out of control
Holy frenetic basketball.
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Also, Auburn against UW-Madison would have been…interesting, as some warned me.
But maybe we’ll get Iowa State-Miami instead 🤷🏼♂️
That’s what we are getting. Auburn is frantic out there. Miami is an older team that plays beautifully together.
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Miami’s athleticism would’ve killed UW.
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Yeah, I stand corrected about Auburn. Yikes
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Jabari Smith 2/13 from the field on the biggest stage he’s ever played on. A lot of thought to be top picks playing their way out of the NBA Draft this weekend.
Look for Taze Moore, Jermaine Samuels, Brady Manek, RJ Davis, and KC Ndefo to be your top 5 picks this year.
Lol
I'm sure doc will come defend his inane position again
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Credit to those who warned us about Auburn.
Glad Iowa State took care of business. I had Wisconsin losing in the 2nd round in a rock fight against LSU. Had the wrong team doing it, but nailed the result.
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Miami/Iowa State pretty contrasting styles.
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Would love to see 6 for 6.
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Jabari Smith 2/13 from the field on the biggest stage he’s ever played on.
Yep. Clearly means he's "not ready." Also means he mailed it in all season.
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Couldn’t have happened to a better guy than Bruce Pearl.
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Purdue struggling with Texas, might meant Michigan is the last B10 team standing.
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Love watching Traveon Williams of Purdue...so many shades of my all time favorite..Devante Gardner.
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Looks like Texas will fall short. Still a good night for those that dislike the B14.
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Wow....35 FT's for Purdue.
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2022 Purdue is 2003 Marquette.
2022 Purdue- #2 offense, #91 defense
2003 Marqeutte- #2 offense, #109 defense
Both led by top 5 super athletic, dynamic guards
Both played small schools from NE in Round 1 and then a team from the Big 12 in Round 2, as 3 seeds
Marquette played first two rounds in Indiana, Purdue playing first two rounds in Wisconsin
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Wonder if Ramey would want to play a 5th year for the coach that recruited him?
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Wonder if Ramey would want to play a 5th year for the coach that recruited him?
I like that idea.
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Time for Davison to go punch some nuts in the Y league. 👀
100%
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When Auburn’s guards are a hot mess, they implode as a team. Miami is running and gunning out there right now.
That’s how they’ve been all year. Wendell Green thinks he’s Steph Curry. He’s taken some of the most ill advised shots I’ve ever seen in their losses
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Wow....35 FT's for Purdue.
Now 42 FTs for Purdue, 12 for Texas.
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Jaden Ivey is doing the exact opposite of Davis, Jabari Smith, and other lottery picks
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Wonder if Ramey would want to play a 5th year for the coach that recruited him?
Wouldn't hate that one bit. Had a better year last year under Shaka than this year under Beard.
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Jaden Ivey is doing the exact opposite of Davis, Jabari Smith, and other lottery picks
He jumps to #1 on the big board and bumps Ndefo out of the top 5.
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Zona in big trouble. Wow just wow.
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Zona in big trouble. Wow just wow.
It looked like they were taking control of the game. Up 9, now trailing. It's past my bedtime. We sleep in May.
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Zona coach screaming at the clock operator because his team bricks too much to keep up with
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What a big-time shot!
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Holy sh*t this game
Horny Toads get last possession....
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Wow, talk about swallowing a whistle.
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Wow, talk about swallowing a whistle.
Yes, but pass the ball.
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Yes, but pass the ball.
Agreed. He should never have put himself in that position.
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Under no circumstance should he have tried to dunk the game winner. Clock is right there, obviously can’t get the release off in time.
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TBS/CBS also did a piss poor job, needed a clean replay of what happened at midcourt, then they miss the overtime tip.
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That was very similar to the OMax play from this year
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Under no circumstance should he have tried to dunk the game winner. Clock is right there, obviously can’t get the release off in time.
Was that a finger roll situation?
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Stay classy Zona fans. The kid is bleeding all over the place on an inadvertent elbow.
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Mathurin has bounce. I would think he goes top 10.
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That Zona/Houston game is gonna be fun.
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TBS/CBS also did a piss poor job, needed a clean replay of what happened at midcourt, then they miss the overtime tip.
That was a foul. If I was a TCU fan I’d be pretty upset with that. If it’s not a foul, it was back court.
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Stay classy Zona fans. The kid is bleeding all over the place on an inadvertent elbow.
I was out in Vegas for the PAC12 tournament and I can tell you first hand that classy is never a word that is used to describe U of A fans.
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Ended up not mattering, but either the scorers table or one of the refs with the clock pack, stops the clock with 2.2 seconds left. Clock starts again four tenths of a second later, but that was almost a very big controversy.
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Also, the Thursday night games in the Sweet Sixteen are going to be some great battles, hell of a card on Thursday.
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Jeff Pearlman
@jeffpearlman
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Mar 19
It's Winning Time again — hopefully. Matthew Lee, guard for @PeacocksMBB
, is the son of Butch Lee, who played for the 1979-80 world champion @lakers
Don Perryman
@DonPerryman
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Mar 19
Replying to
@jeffpearlman
@PeacocksMBB
and
@Lakers
Butch Lee also played for Al McGuire at Marquette.
Jim Chones
@chones22
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11h
Replying to
@DonPerryman
@jeffpearlman
and 2 others
So Did I…. Great Experience
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Johnny Davis shoots 4-14 on the biggest stage of his career. From what I’ve learned on Scoop, Johnny just fell out of the Draft and will be back at UW next year. #notready
Lotsa difference between a Player of the Year and 1st Team AA and a tweener who has many holes in his game. But glad ta cee ur payin' attention, Bro, hey?
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Lotsa difference between a Player of the Year and 1st Team AA and a tweener who has many holes in his game. But glad ta cee ur payin' attention, Bro, hey?
If you read some of the draft gurus, teams have Davis all over the place from lottery to late first round. The biggest reason he could drop is teams believe that this is his ceiling.
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For all the talk of how bad the B10 has been, the SEC has been worse. They only had one team make the second weekend, and every loss was to a lower seeded team. They had two 2 seeds and a 3 seed not move on.
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If you read some of the draft gurus, teams have Davis all over the place from lottery to late first round. The biggest reason he could drop is teams believe that this is his ceiling.
Link to some of these late 1st opinions? Everything I've seen has Davis as a consensus lottery pick.
Granted, it's a weak draft. And teams found out how to defend Davis late in the year, and his efficiency plummeted. Plenty of questions about his skillset, but Davis should still land in the lottery.
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Link to some of these late 1st opinions? Everything I've seen has Davis as a consensus lottery pick.
Granted, it's a weak draft. And teams found out how to defend Davis late in the year, and his efficiency plummeted. Plenty of questions about his skillset, but Davis should still land in the lottery.
He also was noticeably slower since his injury v Nebraska.
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I think Davis is an awfully good player. Watching him get a D rebound and take down court reminded me of Doc Rivers and a more skilled version. I heard his Dad on TV a couple of weeks ago and sounded like he was definitely moving on. I think he has a long NBA career ahead of him.
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He also was noticeably slower since his injury v Nebraska.
The injury scare should eliminate any doubt he may have had in his mind about leaving, which I think was minimal
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TCU got hosed
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Jeff Pearlman
@jeffpearlman
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Mar 19
It's Winning Time again — hopefully. Matthew Lee, guard for @PeacocksMBB
, is the son of Butch Lee, who played for the 1979-80 world champion @lakers
Don Perryman
@DonPerryman
·
Mar 19
Replying to
@jeffpearlman
@PeacocksMBB
and
@Lakers
Butch Lee also played for Al McGuire at Marquette.
Jim Chones
@chones22
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11h
Replying to
@DonPerryman
@jeffpearlman
and 2 others
So Did I…. Great Experience
Ya know, I had this thought during the St Peters/Kentucky game. They said Lee was from Puerto Rico and I said to my wife "I wonder if there's any relation to Marquette great, Butch Lee, who was also from Puerto Rico"
Just one more reason to cheer for the Peacocks going forward
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I think Davis is an awfully good player. Watching him get a D rebound and take down court reminded me of Doc Rivers and a more skilled version. I heard his Dad on TV a couple of weeks ago and sounded like he was definitely moving on. I think he has a long NBA career ahead of him.
Yeah, but Wades doesn't think Davis can carry JL's Bike, hey?
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Yeah, but Wades doesn't think Davis can carry JL's Bike, hey?
Who said that? I’m not sure I’ve said a single negative thing about Davis.
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Yeah, but Wades doesn't think Davis can carry JL's Bike, hey?
Justin Lewis pissed in your Metamucil, nu?
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Who y’all got tonight?
Zags, Cats, Ders and Zona
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hogs +10 Az -1.5 villanova -5 duke -0.5 st pete's +12.5 prov +7.5 unc +2.5
oh, and bucks -13 phx +4 ind/mem ov 237.5
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Zags, Tech, Nova, Zona
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Zags, Tech, Nova, Zona
Juan Anderson's Mixtape is not a prescient young man, but he might have these selections right.
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape is not a prescient young man, but he might have these selections right.
I certainly hope he does! A,little concerned Nova can't guard Dickinson.
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Not a good half from the Zags. Danger time?
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I certainly hope he does! A,little concerned Nova can't guard Dickinson.
I do a better than a bracket March Madness contest each year. We select a one, two, three and four seed plus two 5 through 16's. Each win is worth a point and whoever produces the most points wins the top prize. I love the format because you only have to follow six teams. I picked Michigan as a 5 - 16 this year, but I want the BE conference to win. I guess I will be good either way, but my wallet says "Go Wolverines!"
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Really ugly end to the half.
Also, that charge is everything wrong with offensive fouls in college. Dude takes a Stretch Armstrong step to the side after Hickman gathers but the Refs happily call it cause his feet were flat
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Really ugly end to the half.
Also, that charge is everything wrong with offensive fouls in college. Dude takes a Stretch Armstrong step to the side after Hickman gathers but the Refs happily call it cause his feet were flat
That’s such a bad call
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Not a good half from the Zags. Danger time?
They’re nowhere close to as good as they were last year. But there’s also nobody close to what Baylor was last year. I don’t think they will, but this could be the year they win it all when I’m not sure it’s one of Few’s top 3 teams.
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Nova hasn't scored in over 5 mins. Samuels needs to chill a bit.
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That’s such a bad call
College BB officials are the only employees worse than government workers.
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Really ugly end to the half.
Also, that charge is everything wrong with offensive fouls in college. Dude takes a Stretch Armstrong step to the side after Hickman gathers but the Refs happily call it cause his feet were flat
His first charge taken was in the circle too.
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His first charge taken was in the circle too.
Idiots like Seth Davis think it’s good basketball. That kid should have two fouls
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Idiots like Seth Davis think it’s good basketball. That kid should have two fouls
I missed it but I'm sure you're right and Seth Davis is wrong.
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The charge is garbage basketball and should be taken out of the game. Player control can stay.
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I missed it but I'm sure you're right and Seth Davis is wrong.
The kid from Gonzaga began his drive and the Arkansas kid slid over into his path and got the charge. It was bad
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What is the world are Gonzaga's guards doing? The guy literally passed up a 6 foot shot.
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Terrible call on Holmgren. Actually beyond terrible and totally inexcusable by the zebras.
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Terrible call on Holmgren. Actually beyond terrible and totally inexcusable by the zebras.
Unfortunately, he got caught inside the circle. That’s automatic.
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Unfortunately, he got caught inside the circle. That’s automatic.
I mean, the Arkansas player lowered his shoulder into him
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Unfortunately, he got caught inside the circle. That’s automatic.
Should have been a no call but the Ark guy leaned his shoulder into him before the circle.
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A proper block call!
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Gonzaga's guards look awful. What in the world is going on?
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Gonzaga's guards look awful. What in the world is going on?
They missed a bunch of easy shots early and aren’t attacking anymore
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I mean honestly Timme looks like ass too
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I really hope I'm wrong but Gonzaga looks like they're in trouble. Dixon and Slater each have three fouls which is worrisome as well.
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I mean honestly Timme looks like ass too
I thought this was common knowledge.
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Who y’all got tonight?
Zags, Cats, Ders and Zona
just send MI and Purdue home and I’ll be happy. (It’s that guilt by association to the Badgers thing I gotta shake. Ha)
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just send MI and Purdue home and I’ll be happy. (It’s that guilt by association to the Badgers thing I gotta shake. Ha)
If Purdue doesn’t make the Final 4 with their current draw, Painter should take the next big time job offer he gets because it doesn’t get easier than this
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Zags in trouble. Not sure how they snap out of this funk.
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Timme is actually kinda sh it.
His hand eye isnt Kur level but its not good. Sloppy. Cant shoot.
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Refs miss a blatant trip, lol
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Refs miss a blatant trip, lol
WTH?
Nembhard has been invisible.
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WTH?
Nembhard has been invisible.
He’s short arming everything and playing s-l-o-w.
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Wow. Massive missed call there on the out of bounds.
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The refs in the Zags game are atrocious holy crape
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These are just absolute garbage officials
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This is embarrassing for college basketball
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The Gene the Ref segment has always been about reviews and player control fouls. The fact that he is opining on just active/random fouls is a terrible look.
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The entire tournament this year is actually lame as hell.
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Damn. Dixon needs to grab that reb.
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I just don’t see it with Chet.
He’s tall and has long arms and moves well for his height. That’s about it. Is that enough?
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This Arkansas kid has the shot confidence of Markus Howard and the shot ability of (insert poor shooter here)
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This Arkansas kid has the shot confidence of Markus Howard and the shot ability of (insert poor shooter here)
LOL.
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If I’m a Gonzaga fan I’m not happy about the refs tonight.
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Timme very soft there.
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What an absolute disaster Nembhard has been in this one.
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What’s the hold up here?
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This is a complete embarrassment for college hoops
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Huge shot by Gillespie.
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Earned L for Gonzaga. And not a good one.
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Refs will be the story but Arkansas flat out outplayed the Zags.
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WTH?
Nembhard has been invisible.
invisible??
Hes been noticeably awful
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Refs will be the story but Arkansas flat out outplayed the Zags.
Agreed Fluffy. Terrible performance but give Muss credit.
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invisible??
Hes been noticeably awful
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Touche!! My apologies.
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What a block
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Nor sure why Daniels didn't grab that.
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Should have that been overturned??
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Mark Few is the Marv Levy of college bball
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I only saw the replay and swore it was off Michigan
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Good grief!! C'mon Nova. Slam the door
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That looked like the Michigan hand came underneath
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Ughhh. Hopefully Gillespie is alright.
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Is there enough time for TBS to show Jalen Rose another 15 times?
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Buh-Bye Michigan and Ty Nova.
This isn't news but Wright can sort of coach.
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Huge shot by Gillespie.
Cold blooded.
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Should have that been overturned??
No.
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Gonzaga was 3-3 against the P6 this year. They probably would have have 8-10 losses in any of the P6 conferences. They were pretty overrated.
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One BE team in the Elite Eight (so far).
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Gonzaga was 3-3 against the P6 this year. They probably would have have 8-10 losses in any of the P6 conferences. They were pretty overrated.
Fake news - they are 10-4 against Bart torvik top 50 teams.
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Great start for the Red Raiders!
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What a novel concept. Kelvin Sampson playing taze with two fouls. Finally
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OUCH.
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What a novel concept. Kelvin Sampson playing taze with two fouls. Finally
Andddddd there’s the third foul….
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I know it was eatly in the season but is Houston missing their two best players?
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I know it was eatly innthe season but s Houston missing their two best players?
Tramon Mark definitely not one of the best but a solid rotational guy. Marcus Sasser is one of the best guards in the country IMO. With him this team would’ve been unstoppable.
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Tramon Mark definitely not one of the best but a solid rotational guy. Marcus Sasser is one of the best guards in the country IMO. With him this team would’ve been unstoppable.
They're really impressive.
We rneed to increase our physicality and conditioning. I'm wondering if Shaka can implement a "boot canp" of some sort?
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I still think Banchero is the best pro prospect out of this class. He’s got some refining to do, but he’s just so smooth for his size. Jabari Smith is right there but I just think Banchero is stronger and more durable
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I still think Banchero is the best pro prospect out of this class. He’s got some refining to do, but he’s just so smooth for his size. Jabari Smith is right there but I just think Banchero is stronger and more durable
Probably....although Ivey may be more NBA ready?
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Can someone drive Bill Raftery to the old folks home please, give him a fake microphone, place him next to a large screen tv, he won’t know the difference and the viewers won’t have to listen to his home spun cringe worthy observations
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Probably....although Ivey may be more NBA ready?
Hate to do it - but Ivey reminds me of a more fundamentally sound dwade. Both were able to get to the rim at will in college. Ivey develops a shot, look out.
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Houston gonna get like 5 guys fouled out
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I’d enjoy TTU A LOT more if their offense wasn’t so damn methodical. Sometimes you’re just screaming “GO TO THE RIM” when it’s there and they insist on sitting on it
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I still think Banchero is the best pro prospect out of this class. He’s got some refining to do, but he’s just so smooth for his size. Jabari Smith is right there but I just think Banchero is stronger and more durable
Great court vision, too.
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Hate to do it - but Ivey reminds me of a more fundamentally sound dwade. Both were able to get to the rim at will in college. Ivey develops a shot, look out.
I see similarities but I hink Wade is considerably stronger. He also polished up his game quickly in the NBA. He was lethal in the mid-range and I think he absorbed contact better at Ivey's age. Where Ivey is scary is in the open floor. He may be more electric going from gear 2 to gear 5/6 and handles the rock quite well. He also has kangaroo hops. I think he'll be a really good pro.
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Really dumb foul by Houston.
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They're really impressive.
We rneed to increase our physicality and conditioning. I'm wondering if Shaka can implement a "boot canp" of some sort?
Shaka should get on the horn and call Sampson to come up for a coaching clinic. NFL teams hold joint practices. Let's do the same with a team like Houston that knows how to catch the ball, box out and rebound!
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They need a Coach K cam in the corner. I feel like I’ve seen him more on TV than the actual game.
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They need a Coach K cam in the corner. I feel like I’ve seen him more on TV than the actual game.
Its brutal.
This is a fantastic game too
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They need a Coach K cam in the corner. I feel like I’ve seen him more on TV than the actual game.
We'll see him another 50 times in the final 9 mins.
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Very high level of play in the Duke/TTU games. It looks like Duke has three 1st round picks.
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Very high level of play in the Duke/TTU games. It looks like Duke has three 1st round picks.
This is a really good college basketball game.
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Adams was definitely the man behind the curtains pulling the strings at TT
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I’d be absolutely terrified to take Chet over Banchero (or even Ivey). Sure, he might end up being the best of the bunch, but I also think he’s got by far the lowest floor.
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Tremendous half for Banchero. Nothing TTU can do if he plays at this level.
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umm..
TT waited forever to foul why??
Boy they crashed in the last 2.5. While Duke made all the shots.
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Sometimes you just have to tip your cap. Two elite players making plays during crunch time.
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TT needed a TO toward the end. Duke just executed when they needed to.
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I would like this announcing crew to be shown the door. I know people like Nantz and Raff, but honestly Eagle/Spanarkel should have been given the top job like a decade ago. Hill also adds 0.0 to the broadcast.
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Lets be honest
Myself and anyone else who didnt take Duke are the idiots.
This team was always FF bound at minimum in Coach Ks last dance. Its simply how things work.
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Lets be honest
Myself and anyone else who didnt take Duke are the idiots.
This team was always FF bound at minimum in Coach Ks last dance. Its simply how things work.
They played a near perfect 2nd half. 70% from the field.
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BTW as bad as that Gonzaga game was reffed, the Duke game was reffed really well. Consistent throughout.
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Ive been convinced if Nova got Zona they win that game.
Nova got to the game, but its Houston. Much less confident there.
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How about Houston totally outplaying Zona? And holding them to like 60?
I would think they'll be favored over Nova.
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Ive been convinced if Nova got Zona they win that game.
Nova got to the game, but its Houston. Much less confident there.
I think it's a really tough matchup because they are relentless on the glass. They're also significantly more athletic and can defend all over the floor.
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I think it's a really tough matchup because they are relentless on the glass. They're also significantly more athletic and can defend all over the floor.
Yeah its not a good match up for Nova(never doubt them though).
Zona was a much better match up. Sure they have pure size. But Nova can exploit bigs. And the sloppy ass play of Zona and a eratic/banged up Krissa. Nova woulda ate that up.
Hope they beat Houston though.
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https://twitter.com/bensteelemjs/status/1507211852396257280?s=21
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Yeah its not a good match up for Nova(never doubt them though).
Zona was a much better match up. Sure they have pure size. But Nova can exploit bigs. And the sloppy ass play of Zona and a eratic/banged up Krissa. Nova woulda ate that up.
Hope they beat Houston though.
Exactly. Houston can go brick city but Nova has to find a way to rebound the ball.
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Houston opens -1.5 against Nova.
As long as they keep winning (and barring injuries), Houston will be a favorite versus anyone else left in the field.
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Houston opens -1.5 against Nova.
As long as they keep winning (and barring injuries), Houston will be a favorite versus anyone else left in the field.
We saw the talent of Duke tonight. I think they will be favored over Houston if that game takes place.
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We saw the talent of Duke tonight. I think they will be favored over Houston if that game takes place.
You would be wrong.
Houston would open -2 vs Duke.
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You would be wrong.
Houston would open -2 vs Duke.
They would be -2 vs Duke but are -1.5 vs Nova? Remember Gillespie tweaked his knee.
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They would be -2 vs Duke but are -1.5 vs Nova? Remember Gillespie tweaked his knee.
Yes.
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Yes.
Okay. I'll take your word for it.
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https://twitter.com/bensteelemjs/status/1507211852396257280?s=21
This will trigger some. Theo now has 3x as many NCAA wins as Sam and Joey combined.
Happy for Theo. A warrior.
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It'd be a lot easier for me to root for him if he wasn't at Duke.
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You would be wrong.
Houston would open -2 vs Duke.
There is a 0.00% chance Duke would open +2 in Vegas. 99.8% of bets would go to Duke.
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I’d be absolutely terrified to take Chet over Banchero (or even Ivey). Sure, he might end up being the best of the bunch, but I also think he’s got by far the lowest floor.
Well said. Completely agree. A lot of unknowns in terms of how Holmgren’s game will translate to the NBA where he will be even more overmatched physically. Very easy to picture how the other guys can succeed.
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I'm hardly an NBA GM, but I am taking Banchero over both Ivey and Holmgren. What worries me about Holmgren is what we saw when he picked up those fouls last night. While they were bogus foul calls, that type of contact is routine in the NBA.
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My bracket is absolutely brutal this year. If Kansas manages to win, I'll have one of my final eight still in play. My entire final four is out. I can't remember a year when my picks were so terrible.
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This will trigger some. Joey Hauser now has infinitely more NCAA wins than Markus Howard.
Happy for Joey.
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There is a 0.00% chance Duke would open +2 in Vegas. 99.8% of bets would go to Duke.
Texas Tech was favored over Duke. Houston will be too. Not surprised, but you have zero concept of how Vegas sets lines. They have computers now and don’t dive a rat’s ass who the public likes because of their flawed “eye test”. Neither do the professional gamblers.
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Texas Tech was favored over Duke. Houston will be too. Not surprised, but you have zero concept of how Vegas sets lines. They have computers now and don’t dive a rat’s ass who the public likes because of their flawed “eye test”. Neither do the professional gamblers.
Lol what? If they don't give a "rat's ass" then why do lines move?
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My bracket is absolutely brutal this year. If Kansas manages to win, I'll have one of my final eight still in play. My entire final four is out. I can't remember a year when my picks were so terrible.
My bracket is doing just as poorly. Dead last in my pool. Last year I finished second, and would have won if Gonzaga won the title.
On the bright side, I can't do any worse next year.
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This will trigger some. Joey Hauser now has infinitely more NCAA wins than Markus Howard.
Also true!
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This will trigger some. Joey Hauser now has infinitely more NCAA wins than Markus Howard.
Happy for Joey.
Theo has more wins than both!
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I'm hardly an NBA GM, but I am taking Banchero over both Ivey and Holmgren. What worries me about Holmgren is what we saw when he picked up those fouls last night. While they were bogus foul calls, that type of contact is routine in the NBA.
I'm taking Ivey #1, and it's not even a question in my book. Banchero #2. Holmgren? Despite the projections for high draft status, I see him being a bust if he's drafted as a lottery pick (anywhere in lottery).
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I'm taking Ivey #1, and it's not even a question in my book.
Once again, my Purdue daughter is learning the pain of having an absolute stud on the team and knowing that his days on campus are limited. I just hope that they can keep rolling so she can add a FF (or better) to her college experience. Gotta admit, I'm a little jealous.
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Link to some of these late 1st opinions? Everything I've seen has Davis as a consensus lottery pick.
Granted, it's a weak draft. And teams found out how to defend Davis late in the year, and his efficiency plummeted. Plenty of questions about his skillset, but Davis should still land in the lottery.
https://theathletic.com/3127230/2022/02/17/2022-nba-mock-draft-5-0-chet-holmgren-at-no-1-aj-griffin-in-top-5-questions-abound-with-this-years-class/
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Lol what? If they don't give a "rat's ass" then why do lines move?
You’re in over your head on this one, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Dish (and I) do. STFU before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
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You’re in over your head on this one, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Dish (and I) do. STFU before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
Lol.
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Once again, my Purdue daughter is learning the pain of having an absolute stud on the team and knowing that his days on campus are limited. I just hope that they can keep rolling so she can add a FF (or better) to her college experience. Gotta admit, I'm a little jealous.
Hard to root against the underdog St. Peter's but good luck to you/Purdue. A Final Four is experience as an undergrad would be amazing.
As for Ivey, he is the most fluid, explosive, athletic player I recall seeing in a LONG time. I see some Jordan in him.
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Lenny
Well worded reply to Bias. I think that could be copy and pasted to all of his posts.
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Purdue, UCLA, Kansas and Miami are the picks tonight
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Purdue, UCLA, Kansas and Miami are the picks tonight
Purdue, UNC, Kansas, Miami
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Lenny
Well worded reply to Bias. I think that could be copy and pasted to all of his posts.
Agreed. Anytime you go with the “I know what I’m talking about so stfu!” line you know you’ve won.
Vegas “doesn’t give a rat’s ass” where the money is so much that they’ll move the lines.
Sounds like someone who knows what they’re talking about for sure.
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Providence is seriously rattled right now.
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Providence is seriously rattled right now.
Playing Shaka style by jacking up threes, believe they are 0 for 10 right now.
PU also driving at times, but like Kolek, everything getting blocked. Believe seven already. That’s crazy.
Eight points in 15 minutes, not good.
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Providence is seriously rattled right now.
Just heard the color commentator mention he wondered how Ed Cooley was going to keep his guys motivated with all the struggles on the O end. Said it's really difficult to keep defensive effort up when the O is struggling. About exactly what we saw in the MU vs UNC game.
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Agreed. Anytime you go with the “I know what I’m talking about so stfu!” line you know you’ve won.
Vegas “doesn’t give a rat’s ass” where the money is so much that they’ll move the lines.
Sounds like someone who knows what they’re talking about for sure.
They have computers now. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
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There is a 0.00% chance Duke would open +2 in Vegas. 99.8% of bets would go to Duke.
One more time. Both of these statements are patently absurd. They show zero understanding of how Vegas makes lines and how the betting (at least by large betting professionals) would go. You don’t address your stupid statement, I guess because you know it was stupid. You just keep repeating “rat’s ass”. LOL pathetic.
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Providence is seriously rattled right now.
They just aren’t that good. 8/9 seed caliber. Kansas is getting very little test in this bracket.
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https://twitter.com/boardgeniuses/status/1507517194585968650?s=21&t=OqFQ5qA976Eh0FgE-rzPxg
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https://twitter.com/boardgeniuses/status/1507517194585968650?s=21&t=OqFQ5qA976Eh0FgE-rzPxg
You think that’s bad? Check this site out.
https://www.muscoop.com/
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The Peacocks have a legitimate shot
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LET'S GO PEACOCKS!!!
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Dence doing stuff
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YESSS
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A B1G DISAPPOINTMENT
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Wow! Peacocks proud!
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Gotta have 5 star players to beat the big guys. 8-)
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What’s more shocking? UMBC over Virginia or this St. Peter’s run?
Credit: Stolen from Pat Forde
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What’s more shocking? UMBC over Virginia or this St. Peter’s run?
Credit: Stolen from Pat Forde
Without question the Peacocks.
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The Peacocks have a legitimate shot
Butch Lee's kid?
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On National Peacock Day, no less!!
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Butch Lee's kid?
No, Bill Spaceman Lee’s kid
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Pretty good look from Ivey as well
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I think I read a number of articles saying Purdue would "walk to the Final Four". Whoops. is Painter overrated?
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1945-46
The last college basketball season that neither John Wooden nor Coach K was a Division 1 head coach.
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What’s more shocking? UMBC over Virginia or this St. Peter’s run?
Credit: Stolen from Pat Forde
UMBC
Edit: I overlooked “run”
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What’s more shocking? UMBC over Virginia or this St. Peter’s run?
Credit: Stolen from Pat Forde
Easiest question in the world - one game is improbable. Three in a row should be impossible.
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Easiest question in the world - one game is improbable. Three in a row should be impossible.
Think you’re correct. Also believe Virginia was the most likely 1-seed to lose because of how slow they play
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St. Peter’s has beaten more #1, #2, and #3 seeds in this tournament, than Gonzaga has in the last 20 tournaments.
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No, Bill Spaceman Lee’s kid
Has that ball the Big Dog hit off of him in game 7 come down yet?
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Keep in mind the Peacocks were 12-11 and have now won 10 straight. :)
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Think you’re correct. Also believe Virginia was the most likely 1-seed to lose because of how slow they play
And Virginia was missing their lottery pick.
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And Virginia was missing their lottery pick.
Good point. The Peacocks are a much bigger story.
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St. Peter’s has beaten more #1, #2, and #3 seeds in this tournament, than Gonzaga has in the last 20 tournaments.
What #1 seed did they beat?
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What #1 seed did they beat?
Iona
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Iona
MAAC Tournament? They didn't play Iona.
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MAAC Tournament? They didn't play Iona.
We’ve been bamboozled
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MAAC Tournament? They didn't play Iona.
I think he meant Iowa
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What #1 seed did they beat?
I think you’re missing the point.
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I think you’re missing the point.
I get it now. The shot is on Gonzaga.
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Just my opinion —-
But Larranaga can coach circles around Coach K. Give each guy an equal roster and Larranaga wins 8 out of 10 times.
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Jaime Jaquez may be one of my favorite collegiate players of the last decade.
Love that guys game.
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Just my opinion —-
But Larranaga can coach circles around Coach K. Give each guy an equal roster and Larranaga wins 8 out of 10 times.
Yeah I don’t know about that…
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Just my opinion —-
But Larranaga can coach circles around Coach K. Give each guy an equal roster and Larranaga wins 8 out of 10 times.
One guy has 13 ACC titles, 15 ACC Tournament titles, 12 Final Fours, and 5 national titles.
The other has one ACC title, one ACC Tournament title, and one Final Four.
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One guy has 13 ACC titles, 15 ACC Tournament titles, 12 Final Fours, and 5 national titles.
The other has one ACC title, one ACC Tournament title, and one Final Four.
One guys have several NBA players every year. One doesn’t.
K is obviously the better recruiter. Larranaga is the better coach.
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One guys have several NBA players every year. One doesn’t.
K is obviously the better recruiter. Larranaga is the better coach.
It’s really not even close.
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UCLA/Carolina is great.
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UCLA/Carolina is great.
Who do da Peacocks match up better against? :)
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One guys have several NBA players every year. One doesn’t.
K is obviously the better recruiter. Larranaga is the better coach.
Again I have no idea why you say this. I mean he’s fine. But I don’t see much evidence of elite coaching.
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Who do da Peacocks match up better against? :)
It's kind of crazy the run they are on. They got torched by St. John's by 21.
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North Carolina has had a horseshoe shoved so far up their ass this tourney.
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I think the Peacocks are really going to struggle against UNC.
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Team is in the 1 and 1.
SO dumb playing out a 15 second differential down 3.
Little room for error and you still need 3.
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UCLA gave this thing away, holy cats
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This game will not be part of Mick Cronin’s hall of fame induction.
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God I hate North Carolina
Go take some more non existent classes, pretty boys.
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Jacquez was awful tonight.
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I think the Peacocks are really going to struggle against UNC.
Teal?
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they have good talent. suprised they only managed an 8 seed
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UNC-Duke Final 4 matchup incoming
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UNC opens -8 against the Peacocks.
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Miami ML +225 is really nice. That’ll be under 200 really quick.
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UNC opens -8 against the Peacocks.
Did a little Nova ML, UNC ML and Miami +6.5 parlay right away. +440.
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Wow UNC. Never bring skittles to a gun fight.
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Jacquez was awful tonight.
Yep. I hated the way UCLA stopped moving and just kept going 1-on-1, usually Jacquez or Campbell. And I know Leaky Black's a good defender, but Juzang has to occasionally touch the ball. UCLA pulled a loss out of the jaws of victory.
But props to Love. He destroyed UCLA. He also had a good puddle of drool flowing during one TV close-up!
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Did a little Nova ML, UNC ML and Miami +6.5 parlay right away. +440.
I went Hou ML, UNC ML, Ark ML, Miami ML, +1675.
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My bracket is absolutely brutal this year. If Kansas manages to win, I'll have one of my final eight still in play. My entire final four is out. I can't remember a year when my picks were so terrible.
I picked Kansas to win it all, but the rest of my bracket is in flames.
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It's kind of crazy the run they are on. They got torched by St. John's by 21.
They were 4th in their league with an average of 526 fans per home game. The Peacocks are the biggest story of this tournament, period. It's why we love college hoops. I coukd care less if Coach K is leaving or if he wins the title with 5 pros. The 🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚 have my respect and hopefully they punk Carolina and get to the F4.
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I went Hou ML, UNC ML, Ark ML, Miami ML, +1675.
I'm thinking Jay's going to put Samson in a body bag.
I'm hoping because the narrative spun around Kelvin is getting really gross.
Like Ark too, but Duke. I don't know. Want to see Duke win, but happy for Theo.
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I'm thinking Jay's going to put Samson in a body bag.
I'm hoping because the narrative spun around Kelvin is getting really gross.
Like Ark too, but Duke. I don't know. Want to see Duke win, but happy for Theo.
Kelvin Sampson best coaching job this season. whats the nauseating narrative ?
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I'm thinking Jay's going to put Samson in a body bag.
I'm hoping because the narrative spun around Kelvin is getting really gross.
Like Ark too, but Duke. I don't know. Want to see Duke win, but happy for Theo.
BE ex-pats Theo and Charlie Moore still playing.
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Kelvin Sampson best coaching job this season. whats the nauseating narrative ?
Last game he was described as a guy who jumped to the NBA, but found out his love was in college basketball. So he returned to lowly Houston to restore the program.
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Last game he was described as a guy who jumped to the NBA, but found out his love was in college basketball. So he returned to lowly Houston to restore the program.
I mean the NCAA hosed him and he went to the NBA and then returned to college. That's gross ?
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I mean the NCAA hosed him and he went to the NBA and then returned to college. That's gross ?
Sure. He was hosed.
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Sure. He was hosed.
Coach K all of a sudden gets every one and done, Bill self is at the center of an fbi investigation but you’re mad at kelvin sampson for making too many phone calls. Get a grip
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Bill self is at the center of an fbi investigation but you’re mad at kelvin sampson for making too many phone calls. Get a grip
This was as predictable as a Wojo gameplan, thank you for your contribution.
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This was as predictable as a Wojo gameplan, thank you for your contribution.
Lol - hope you’re getting nauseous because despicable kelvin is on a roll. What an incredible job he’s done without two starters as well. And doing it and a Mickey Mouse program too. Such a hard worker and brilliant basketball mind.
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Lol - hope you’re getting nauseous because despicable kelvin is on a roll. What an incredible job he’s done without two starters as well. And doing it and a Mickey Mouse program too. Such a hard worker and brilliant basketball mind.
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Just don’t make too many phone calls - We know how the ncaa thinks of those types !
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Houston and Duke tonight
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I hope you're dead wrong Uncle R but I'm afraid you may be right. Maybe Wright has something up his sleeve?
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I hope you're dead wrong Uncle R but I'm afraid you may be right. Maybe Wright has something up his sleeve?
I think it’s a coin flip game
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Who are the 5 best current coaches?
1) Wright
But who occupies slots 2-5?
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Who are the 5 best current coaches?
1) Wright
But who occupies slots 2-5?
Wright and Sampson are clearly two of them
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Wright and Sampson are clearly two of them
For sure.
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Who are the 5 best current coaches?
1) Wright
But who occupies slots 2-5?
1. Wright
2. Sampson
3. Self
4. Will Wade
5. Penny
6. Sean Miller
7. Pearl
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Who are the 5 best current coaches?
1) Wright
But who occupies slots 2-5?
In no particular order:
Wright
Sampson
Musselman
Bennett
Larranaga
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Nova doing a great job on the glass early.
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I really wish we utilized the shot fake like Nova.
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I know this is tangential but I expect MU to be back in business sooner rather than later. I believe Shaka will get explosive players and guys with various skill sets in the next couple of recruiting/transfer seasons.
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In no particular order:
Wright
Sampson
Musselman
Bennett
Larranaga
That’s a joke right? No qualms with the list otherwise.
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Nova should be up 15-18. Hopefully this doesn't come back to bite them.
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That’s a joke right? No qualms with the list otherwise.
I think he’s done really good work at Miami, better than anyone outside Leonard Hamilton for a short stretch. They were bad the previous 3 seasons, for sure
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I think he’s done really good work at Miami, better than anyone outside Leonard Hamilton for a short stretch. They were bad the previous 3 seasons, for sure
I think he’s a solid coach but in 25 years at GMU and Miami, he’s gotten past the first round of the NCAA just 5 times.
He’s been good at Miami, but he’s finished 10th or lower in the ACC as many times as he’s finished top 5. He’s barely .500 in conference.
Nothing to be ashamed of, but nowhere near an active “best coaches in the country list” IMO
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I think he’s a solid coach but in 25 years at GMU and Miami, he’s gotten past the first round of the NCAA just 5 times.
He’s been good at Miami, but he’s finished 10th or lower in the ACC as many times as he’s finished top 5. He’s barely .500 in conference.
Nothing to be ashamed of, but nowhere near an active “best coaches in the country list” IMO
I didn’t want to say Few or Self or Izzo
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Nova should be up 15-18. Hopefully this doesn't come back to bite them.
15 to 18?!?!??!
Neither team can make crap. The only difference right now is Nova has hit a couple 3s and got to the line more with the ball fakes.
Great half by Nova but margin is about right.
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15 to 18?!?!??!
Neither team can make crap. The only difference right now is Nova has hit a couple 3s and got to the line more with the ball fakes.
Great half by Nova but margin is about right.
Okay. Maybe 12-14.
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I didn’t want to say Few or Self or Izzo
Fair enough. I’d add Cronin after what he’s done the last few years and then the sleeper, Steve Pikiell
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Do I say something, or let him continue to reel? :P
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What makes Musselman so good? Is it his energy and intensity? It seems to me he bounced around the NBA forever until he became the HC at Nevada. He's a guy we could have hired years ago.
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I just rewatched our 2013 thumping of Miami and Larranaga. God bless Greg Anthony.
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I think he’s a solid coach but in 25 years at GMU and Miami, he’s gotten past the first round of the NCAA just 5 times.
He’s been good at Miami, but he’s finished 10th or lower in the ACC as many times as he’s finished top 5. He’s barely .500 in conference.
Nothing to be ashamed of, but nowhere near an active “best coaches in the country list” IMO
"Great" coaches win because they have better players. Period.
Bill Fitch averaged <35 wins a year in 9 years in the NBA - until he was hired by Boston. In 4 years there, he averaged >60 wins. He did not become a great coach by moving to another city - he just got a team that drafted Larry Bird.
Does anyone here think Pops or Phil Jackson would have all those rings if they coached the Sacramento Kings?
Of course they were excellent coaches - but great players are way more important than great coaches. Eric Spoelstra may be the best in the NBA today - but is he good enough to win a title when JFB is his best player?
Coach K always has the best players. He should be winning lots of titles.
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"Great" coaches win because they have better players. Period.
Bill Fitch averaged <35 wins a year in 9 years in the NBA - until he was hired by Boston. In 4 years there, he averaged >60 wins. He did not become a great coach by moving to another city - he just got a team that drafted Larry Bird.
Does anyone here think Pops or Phil Jackson would have all those rings if they coached the Sacramento Kings?
Of course they were excellent coaches - but great players are way more important than great coaches. Eric Spoelstra may be the best in the NBA today - but is he good enough to win a title when JFB is his best player?
Coach K always has the best players. He should be winning lots of titles.
The Pats won six titles in two decades because they had Tom Brady under center. He was far more responsible for the championships than BB. New England is quickly finding out it's not so easy without the best ever under center. The players are always more important than the coaches. Rick Pitino isn't winning any national championships at Iona.
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Fair enough. I’d add Cronin after what he’s done the last few years and then the sleeper, Steve Pikiell
I’d like Pikiell to get a better job but at 54, Rutgers might be it. Him at UConn May have been a problem for teams in the Big East
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What makes Musselman so good? Is it his energy and intensity? It seems to me he bounced around the NBA forever until he became the HC at Nevada. He's a guy we could have hired years ago.
Dude can just flat out coach. Second best winning percentage in CBA history. Went to the USBL for 2 years and utterly dominated.
He got completely screwed in the NBA. His first season in GS he had the best season in 10 years. Then was good the next year even losing Gilbert Arenas and Jameson, but Chris Mullin fired him cause hes a dope.
Never got a real chance in Sacramento even after a decent season. Then got branded an NBA failure cause thats just how the NBA can be. Then went to the G League and was really good there, still didn't get an NBA look, so then he went to the college ranks and just keeps winning.
"Great" coaches win because they have better players. Period.
Bill Fitch averaged <35 wins a year in 9 years in the NBA - until he was hired by Boston. In 4 years there, he averaged >60 wins. He did not become a great coach by moving to another city - he just got a team that drafted Larry Bird.
Does anyone here think Pops or Phil Jackson would have all those rings if they coached the Sacramento Kings?
Of course they were excellent coaches - but great players are way more important than great coaches. Eric Spoelstra may be the best in the NBA today - but is he good enough to win a title when JFB is his best player?
Coach K always has the best players. He should be winning lots of titles.
Ok so then Jim Larranaga is a better version of Mike Deane. Getting good players is part of being a college coach. He's had 25 years to learn how to get really good players at mid major or better level and he can't enough to consistently win at a high level. He's a great Xs and Os guy, but in college thats only part of the job. Ok the NCAA isn't everything, but I want a coach with more than 2 conference titles in 15 years if we're talking "best active". Not really sure what your argument is here.
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Ugly shooting by both teams.
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Ugly shooting by both teams.
Poorly played game all around. Nova lucky they’re playing a tired Houston team like this. If they played like they did against Arizona they’d be up on Nova.
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Gillespie is really struggling but somehow Nova is up 9.
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I’m saying right now that if I’m Wright and I’m up 3 with a few seconds left I am NOT fouling. Not with the way Houston rebounds.
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Ugly shooting by both teams.
This Nova team has a lot of bad Virginia in them at time
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Gosh, we beat this Nova team at the Finn as well.
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Gosh, we beat this Nova team at the Finn as well.
And MU played a tremendous game Feb 2nd at Fiserv. It upsets me greatly that things went off the rails.
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This Nova team has a lot of bad Virginia in them at time
It’s my consistent argument against the slower “efficient” offense teams. It’s great when you’re playing amazing ball, but when you’re offense struggles, you don’t have plenty of possessions to work through it and it becomes a slog. For a team with more pace, 10 rough possessions/missed shots is whatever. For a UVA/Nova/UW that’s a big part of a half
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Nova did not slam the door and now it's a coin flip. Very, very, upsetting.
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It’s my consistent argument against the slower “efficient” offense teams. It’s great when you’re playing amazing ball, but when you’re offense struggles, you don’t have plenty of possessions to work through it and it becomes a slog. For a team with more pace, 10 rough possessions/missed shots is whatever. For a UVA/Nova/UW that’s a big part of a half
As we’re seeing with Nova now. They just don’t have the elite talent of the ‘16-‘18 teams. Still a helluva team, but those teams would have blown the doors off this Houston team. Credit to Wright, though, for getting them in position by recognizing that
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Nova shooting 28%?? Beyond belief.
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Nova shooting 28%?? Beyond belief.
Houston is an elite defensive team
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Nova shooting 28%?? Beyond belief.
I’m not a fan of their system. At its worst, chuck 3s and hope refs bail you out. Bad combination.
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Houston is an elite defensive team
I'm sorry but this sht is crazy. 44-40 under 4 mins to go?
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I'm sorry but this sht is crazy. 44-40 under 4 mins to go?
Modern day college basketball
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Modern day college basketball
As long as the 3 is a higher pct play than driving in (and getting more whistles on the perimeter than inside in a lot of games) you’re going to see some ugly shooting games like this.
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Modern day college basketball
Really?? Again, Nova fails to slam the door. Hopefully they scratch out this W.
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Really?? Again, Nova fails to slam the door. Hopefully they scratch out this W.
Houston is good. They’re not a pushover
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WTF was that? Smh.
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That's better. SLAM THE DOOR.
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Oh no. That’s an Achilles I think.
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Oh no. That’s an Achilles I think.
Brutal.
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Houston is good. They’re not a pushover
Nova caught them on their worst day and still barely taking care of business.
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Nova caught them on their worst day and still barely taking care of business.
Nova is shooting 28.8% themselves and 5/21
So lets pipe down on the stupid
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I've seen Houston go brick city. I believe that happened vs the Weasel/Rodents.
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These reviews are pretty ridiculous
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These reviews are pretty ridiculous
It’s got to end or a better system needs to be put into place
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These reviews are pretty ridiculous
The pointing the direction of possession and review signal all in one motion has been a fun development.
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Reviews should be limited to 30 seconds. Then call on the floor stands.
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That game was terrible but Nova does it again. Best program in the country. Hope Moore is ok
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Nova caught them on their worst day and still barely taking care of business.
How would you suggest they “take care of business” better, chicos2?
Houston is an incredible, athletic defensive team and the refs let both teams hammer each other. What should Nova have done differently on offense? Show us that you’re more than just an infectious-disease expert.
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Good lord, Houston went 1 for 20 from three.
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Good lord, Houston went 1 for 20 from three.
Channeled their inner-Badger
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Good lord, Houston went 1 for 20 from three.
That is incredible.
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That was an incredible game to watch. I would love to have an MU team that could attack the boards like Houston did.
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This Nova team likely doesn't have a single NBA player. JW is that good.
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Nova caught them on their worst day and still barely taking care of business.
Yet they are in the Final Four. So who cares.
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Jay Wright is a God
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Yet they are in the Final Four. So who cares.
It kind of underscores how down college basketball is.
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Rothstein tweeted that Moore has been diagnosed with a lower leg injury.
One of the more insightful tweets of all time.
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Rothstein tweeted that Moore has been diagnosed with a lower leg injury.
One of the more insightful tweets of all time.
Hey, they’re a Fortune 500 company. Please buy the shirt
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This Nova team likely doesn't have a single NBA player. JW is that good.
I disagree, Muggs. IMHO Samuels has a great shot at the NBA. Daniels and Moore definitely will be considered. All intelligent, hard-working guys with good size who embrace defense and can hit 3s. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Gillespie sticks too.
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Fookin' Williams is a monster for da Dookies, aina?
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I disagree, Muggs. IMHO Samuels has a great shot at the NBA. Daniels and Moore definitely will be considered. All intelligent, hard-working guys with good size who embrace defense and can hit 3s. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Gillespie sticks too.
I disagree. There's a chance Gillespie can find a spot.
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Rothstein tweeted that Moore has been diagnosed with a lower leg injury.
One of the more insightful tweets of all time.
Honestly, for him. That might be one of his better ones.
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2 3-pointers for Duke in a half where they score 45, lord have mercy
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Rothstein tweeted that Moore has been diagnosed with a lower leg injury.
One of the more insightful tweets of all time.
LOL.
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"Great" coaches win because they have better players. Period.
Bill Fitch averaged <35 wins a year in 9 years in the NBA - until he was hired by Boston. In 4 years there, he averaged >60 wins. He did not become a great coach by moving to another city - he just got a team that drafted Larry Bird.
Does anyone here think Pops or Phil Jackson would have all those rings if they coached the Sacramento Kings?
Of course they were excellent coaches - but great players are way more important than great coaches. Eric Spoelstra may be the best in the NBA today - but is he good enough to win a title when JFB is his best player?
Coach K always has the best players. He should be winning lots of titles.
How was Duke before K got there? Did he just bring in the top talent in the country year one?
Come on. He’s the best coach in modern college basketball history. It’s not even close. Jim Larranaga better than K? LOL!
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There is zero chance I’m taking Holmgren over Banchero if I’m an NBA GM.
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There is zero chance I’m taking Holmgren over Banchero if I’m an NBA GM.
No kidding.
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How was Duke before K got there? Did he just bring in the top talent in the country year one?
Come on. He’s the best coach in modern college basketball history. It’s not even close. Jim Larranaga better than K? LOL!
Duke was in the national championship game a couple years before he got there and were in multiple final fours in the 60s. They weren’t elite but they weren’t some bottom feeder program.
But yeah I have no idea why anyone thinks Larranega is better than K.
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Probably cuz he cusses less, hey?
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This game looks over.
At the end of the day you have to be able to get buckets.
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There is zero chance I’m taking Holmgren over Banchero if I’m an NBA GM.
I've been saying this for 7 weeks. I think Holmgren goes 4th.
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I've been saying this for 7 weeks. I think Holmgren goes 4th.
I think he should. But I don’t see him falling past 2.
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I think he should. But I don’t see him falling past 2.
The question really is whether he can gain weight and strength while keeping his overall skills? I think it's 45/55.
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There is zero chance I’m taking Holmgren over Banchero if I’m an NBA GM.
November I would have taken chet. Banchero has really improved since then, he's the clear #1 now. Let's be honest tho, he'd be nothing without all those Theo screens and clear outs
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I disagree. There's a chance Gillespie can find a spot.
The beautiful thing is we’ll get to find out.
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I disagree. There's a chance Gillespie can find a spot.
Arcidicano was a better shooter than Gillespie and a bit more athletic and barely stuck with a bad Bulls team. I’d be surprised if Gillespie does. Incredible college player but he won’t be backing anyone down in the NBA like he loves to
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Very happy for Theo John
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Very happy for Theo John
2 rebounds and headed to the final 4. Not much better in life.
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Arcidicano was a better shooter than Gillespie and a bit more athletic and barely stuck with a bad Bulls team. I’d be surprised if Gillespie does. Incredible college player but he won’t be backing anyone down in the NBA like he loves to
I actually was thinking Gillespie is a little more athletic than Arch was, but I guess all either of us has to support his case is the eye test. Agree with you that Gillespie is a borderline prospect.
What do you think about Samuels, Wags?
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Nova and Theo all that's left of the BE in the dance?
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How was Duke before K got there?
You've obviously never been to Tracy J's Watering Hole.
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Arcidicano was a better shooter than Gillespie and a bit more athletic and barely stuck with a bad Bulls team. I’d be surprised if Gillespie does. Incredible college player but he won’t be backing anyone down in the NBA like he loves to
Umm no.
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I actually was thinking Gillespie is a little more athletic than Arch was, but I guess all either of us has to support his case is the eye test. Agree with you that Gillespie is a borderline prospect.
What do you think about Samuels, Wags?
I think Gillespie is bigger/stronger, but Arch was quicker at that point but my memory is imperfect to be sure
I really like Samuels but I’m not sure how he fits. He’s not a great shooter and he’s a bit short to be a true 4 in the NBA, so idk.
Umm no.
Arch was 50%/40%(on 5 3P/G)/84% as a senior. Gillespie was 48%/37%/83% as a senior. His 3P went up a few points this year, but I’m sure Arch’s would have too if he got a 5th year. At worst it’s a wash
But keep acting shocked like Gillespie is Steph Curry and Arch was Kolek
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Nova and Theo all that's left of the BE in the dance?
Carolina is still carrying around our bloody carcass, so there's that.
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Nova and Theo all that's left of the BE in the dance?
Charlie Moore
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Shaheed Holloway………
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Shaheen Holloway
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Shaheen Holloway
just a typo
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just a typo
That’s what you want us to think….
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That’s what you want us to think….
I know his name. I saw him play back when. Just auto correct on my tablet.
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Nova and Theo all that's left of the BE in the dance?
More than the Big Ten + four.
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How was Duke before K got there? Did he just bring in the top talent in the country year one?
Come on. He’s the best coach in modern college basketball history. It’s not even close. Jim Larranaga better than K? LOL!
The program was dormant in the early 70s but Bill FOster got it rolling in the late 70s. The three years before Coach K got there, they lost in the NCAA Championship Game, round of 32 (after tying for first in the ACC), and then advanced to the Elite 8. There were emerging as a top flight program when he arrived. They sorta flailed his first three years there and then he got it rolling and the rest is history.
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I know his name. I saw him play back when. Just auto correct on my tablet.
This seems like a very convenient excuse….
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wades
MU have a very memorable win against Duke in a game played in Madison in the late 70’s. They had a very nice program prior to K arriving to campus.
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I think Gillespie is bigger/stronger, but Arch was quicker at that point but my memory is imperfect to be sure
I really like Samuels but I’m not sure how he fits. He’s not a great shooter and he’s a bit short to be a true 4 in the NBA, so idk.
Arch was 50%/40%(on 5 3P/G)/84% as a senior. Gillespie was 48%/37%/83% as a senior. His 3P went up a few points this year, but I’m sure Arch’s would have too if he got a 5th year. At worst it’s a wash
But keep acting shocked like Gillespie is Steph Curry and Arch was Kolek
Samuels shot 37% from 3 last season but fell to 27% this season. So it will depend on whether NBA guys think he can get back to the former from NBA range and also whether they think he can defend both forward positions. He's a strong, versatile player, and I think he'll get a real shot, but like you I'm not betting on it.
The last sentence of your answer to PGsHeroes cracked me up because if I had said anything remotely like that you would have needled me for "hyperbole as usual." As for the actual discussion, I think Gillespie and Arch are/were similarly capable shooters. Gillespie has had to take a lot of tough, end-of-shot-clock 3s this season and yet he still improved to 40%, and he just about never misses from the FT line. Will be interesting to see what kind of NBA look he gets. He's pretty Brunson-like to me, if I were to do a Nova-centric comparison.
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This seems like a very convenient excuse….
u jus jeluz cuz u din think of Holloway first ;)
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I think Gillespie is bigger/stronger, but Arch was quicker at that point but my memory is imperfect to be sure
I really like Samuels but I’m not sure how he fits. He’s not a great shooter and he’s a bit short to be a true 4 in the NBA, so idk.
Arch was 50%/40%(on 5 3P/G)/84% as a senior. Gillespie was 48%/37%/83% as a senior. His 3P went up a few points this year, but I’m sure Arch’s would have too if he got a 5th year. At worst it’s a wash
But keep acting shocked like Gillespie is Steph Curry and Arch was Kolek
Shocked?? All I said hes not a better shooter than Gillespie. He isnt.
Gillespie has always been a better 3 pt shooter. Better free throw shooter and much more consistent inside the arc as well.
No one said anything about Curry or Kolek. That seems to be your desperation attempt at not sounding too stupid. It failed.
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Shocked?? All I said hes not a better shooter than Gillespie. He isnt.
Gillespie has always been a better 3 pt shooter. Better free throw shooter and much more consistent inside the arc as well.
No one said anything about Curry or Kolek. That seems to be your desperation attempt at not sounding too stupid. It failed.
I agree.
The biggest difference is athleticism where Arcidiacono is a level above. Gillespie is a better basketball player. Gillespie also is the guy to hit the shot when Nova needs it which elevates his overall impression. Arcidiacono had better options around him so he wasn't in that position as much as Gillespie.
Brunson is the greatest PG in program history.
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I'd be surprised if anyone makes a NBA roster....although Dixon has gotten a lot better. He conceivably could become a a stretch 4. It's a real shame Moore is probably out for the F4.
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u jus jeluz cuz u din think of Holloway first ;)
Lol
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Carolina and Kansas get it done for a classic basketball diehards Final 4
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Shocked?? All I said hes not a better shooter than Gillespie. He isnt.
Gillespie has always been a better 3 pt shooter. Better free throw shooter and much more consistent inside the arc as well.
No one said anything about Curry or Kolek. That seems to be your desperation attempt at not sounding too stupid. It failed.
You said “umm no” like it was some ridiculous comparison which Gillespie clearly wins, thus I got hyperbolic. Especially when comparing their 4 year numbers since Gillespie neither had an injury or redshirt to get him to a 5th year.
Nothing backs that up. “Much more consistent” from inside the arc? Arch was shot 48%/43%/50% from inside from Soph to Senior year. Gillespie? 47/46/48 (then 47% this year. A wash at worst.
Arch improved to a 40% 3P shooter (about 39% over his final 2 seasons), Gillespie hovered around 37% till this season. Again, always better? Not sure how.
If you wanna say your opinion or some nebulous “eye test” with recency bias, fine. But statistically there isn’t a ton to separate them, certainly not with any pronounced descriptors.
They are both fantastic college players with marginal pro prospects
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I think Miami beats Kansas.
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Ridiculous call on that flop.
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I think Miami beats Kansas.
I think Kansas is the best team left but Martin tends to overtake the ball sometimes and against Miami, that could be a problem
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You said “umm no” like it was some ridiculous comparison which Gillespie clearly wins, thus I got hyperbolic. Especially when comparing their 4 year numbers since Gillespie neither had an injury or redshirt to get him to a 5th year.
Nothing backs that up. “Much more consistent” from inside the arc? Arch was shot 48%/43%/50% from inside from Soph to Senior year. Gillespie? 47/46/48 (then 47% this year. A wash at worst.
Arch improved to a 40% 3P shooter (about 39% over his final 2 seasons), Gillespie hovered around 37% till this season. Again, always better? Not sure how.
If you wanna say your opinion or some nebulous “eye test” with recency bias, fine. But statistically there isn’t a ton to separate them, certainly not with any pronounced descriptors.
They are both fantastic college players with marginal pro prospects
You keep cherry picking years hahaha
Gillepsie was much more consistent over every single season that he played colelge compared to when archie did.
He shot better from 3 through the course of his career. ANd better from the line.
Archidianco is not the better shooter. So "ummm no" was correct. And it should literally be left at that.
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How was Duke before K got there? Did he just bring in the top talent in the country year one?
Come on. He’s the best coach in modern college basketball history. It’s not even close. Jim Larranaga better than K? LOL!
If you include recruiting, K is the best. In my initial post, I was talking just X’s and O’s.
My radical concept is that it is easier to win when you have better players.
If Miami makes it to the Final 4 - what was harder? Doing it with 5-6 guys who will be drafted or getting there with no one (1 at most) who will be drafted?
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Carolina and Kansas get it done for a classic basketball diehards Final 4
I may puke if it’s a Kansas vs North Carolina final.
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If you include recruiting, K is the best. In my initial post, I was talking just X’s and O’s.
My radical concept is that it is easier to win when you have better players.
If Miami makes it to the Final 4 - what was harder? Doing it with 5-6 guys who will be drafted or getting there with no one (1 at most) who will be drafted?
You’re being incredibly short sighted. K had this roster full of pros because he coached kids into pros throughout his career.
Larranaga has been at Miami for 11 years. This is the first time he’s in the Elite Eight with them. And he’s doing it as a 10 seed. They’re hot at the right time.
Even in his very best season at Miami, Duke is a better team.
K is the best coach in modern college basketball history. And Jim Larranaga is not even a top 10 contender for that his main competition.
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If you include recruiting, K is the best. In my initial post, I was talking just X’s and O’s.
My radical concept is that it is easier to win when you have better players.
If Miami makes it to the Final 4 - what was harder? Doing it with 5-6 guys who will be drafted or getting there with no one (1 at most) who will be drafted?
That doesn’t necessarily mean the coach is a better Xs and Os coach. Teams get hot. Teams get lucky. But I’ve never watched a Miami game and was overwhelmed by how well coached they are. I mean they’re fine but nothing special.
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Kansas is tied right now while have 0 3s and 4/12 at the line.
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Kansas is playing a home game and obviously better. I still think Miami can pull this off.
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Kansas is playing a home game and obviously better. I still think Miami can pull this off.
Kansas plays a home game in every NCAA Tournament game they play in.
The good news for Miami is they have the best coach to ever coach the game leading them, so they should be able to stop this momentum with one good timeout.
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Or not.....this game is over
Moore has been an abomination this half.
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The teams left in this tournament are much more physical defensively than MU. On and especially off the ball. We need to increase our quickness overall physicality. It's non negotiable.
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These refs stink. Or do they stink more than usual? Or do college refs just always stink?
I think officiating in college hoops may be a problem.
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These refs stink. Or do they stink more than usual? Or do college refs just always stink?
I think officiating in college hoops may be a problem.
It's a huge problem, but the vast majority of people pay no attention to the sport for three weeks, so there's no real incentive to make changes.
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If Coach K were coaching this Miami team, they’d be down 30 at this point.
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Jim’s X’s and O’s look a lot like Wojo’s this half. A lot of one on one deep 3 point possessions.
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These refs stink. Or do they stink more than usual? Or do college refs just always stink?
I think officiating in college hoops may be a problem.
Ironically, the game intro included reciting the lengthy resumes of all three of these refs including I believe saying one was voted best ref in the game
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Can we all take a moment to appreciate the quality of broadcasters throughout March Madness? 15 short years ago we’d be suffering through Billy Packer right now.
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Can we all take a moment to appreciate the quality of broadcasters throughout March Madness? 15 short years ago we’d be suffering through Billy Packer right now.
I respected Billy Packer’s ability to be crotchety, bitter, and annoying about LITERALLY everything
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The Peacocks look stressed.
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back down to earth for the cocks
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What an incredibly unlikeable final four. Thank god for Nova
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The clock has struck midnight. Hell of a run, Cinderella.
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What an incredibly unlikeable final four. Thank god for Nova
TBS will love it. Ratings will be huge.
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This might be a good time to unleash some 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚 on the court.
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TBS will love it. Ratings will be huge.
Oh I don’t doubt that one bit
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Nice of Matthew Lee’s team to pay homage to his dad’s alma mater in this one.
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Kansas - yet another example that cheating does pay. 😳
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Cmon
Coach Ks last ride, it was always gonna be UNC vs Duke.
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What an incredibly unlikeable final four. Thank god for Nova
Replace Nova with Kentucky and you'd have the least interesting FF possible.
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Cmon
Coach Ks last ride, it was always gonna be UNC vs Duke.
Moore being out sucks.
And the Peacocks got nervous
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Replace Nova with Kentucky and you'd have the least interesting FF possible.
I actually kinda like Kentucky, for me it would be replacing Nova with Arizona that would be an absolute disaster.
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TBS will love it. Ratings will be huge.
I’m looking forward to it. 4 blue bloods and proper basketball schools
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Officially a torn achilles for Moore.
We knew it, but still sucks
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The Final Four is going to be absolutely awesome. The only negative is the injury to Moore.
Upsets are fun in the first 2 rounds. Final Four games with George Mason getting blitzed by Florida stinks. Even this game. 19 first half points in the last Elite 8 game? This sucks. Lost interest by like 4:30 on Sunday. Boring.
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Nova and Theo all that's left of the BE in the dance?
Let’s not forget Dawson. He will get a ring as he is still on the UNC official roster.
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Officially a torn achilles for Moore.
We knew it, but still sucks
Brutal.
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St Peters run was super fun. But my god this is horrible basketball today
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The Final Four is going to be absolutely awesome. The only negative is the injury to Moore.
Upsets are fun in the first 2 rounds. Final Four games with George Mason getting blitzed by Florida stinks. Even this game. 19 first half points in the last Elite 8 game? This sucks. Lost interest by like 4:30 on Sunday. Boring.
Agreed, I hate the ACC but UNC vs Duke will be quite the spectacle. Hoping Nova can play a competitive game against Kansas.
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J Wright has a week to figure out Kansas. if anyone can come up w/ a successful plan it's him.
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Agreed, I hate the ACC but UNC vs Duke will be quite the spectacle. Hoping Nova can play a competitive game against Kansas.
Kansas is VERY beatable. Lost to Texas, TTU, TCU, and Baylor in the last month and change and barely snuck by Texas another time in there.
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J Wright has a week to figure out Kansas. if anyone can come up w/ a successful plan it's him.
Will be tough without Moore. Dang. Poor kid. I had a torn Achilles’ tendon. Long process to heal right.
Go Villanova - find a way win it fot Moore,
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Kansas is VERY beatable. Lost to Texas, TTU, TCU, and Baylor in the last month and change and barely snuck by Texas another time in there.
Villanova is VERY beatable - lost to Marquette twice. You can say this about any team heading to New Orleans. The earlier results mean zilch now.
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Villanova is VERY beatable - lost to Marquette twice. You can say this about any team heading to New Orleans. The earlier results mean zilch now.
Sure, but it was a response to hoping Nova could be competitive, as if Kansas was certain to lambast them without Moore
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I think without Moore Nova really has their work cut out for them. They have to find a way to shoot a solid percentage from downtown.
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Kansas is VERY beatable. Lost to Texas, TTU, TCU, and Baylor in the last month and change and barely snuck by Texas another time in there.
Seems like they struggle with Texas schools.
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I gotta admit, my attention level is down for the FF. Go Nova, of course, they are carrying the BE banner, but losing a key part like they did at this point puts them at a significant disadvantage. I’m sort of rooting for Duke, though I hate to see K replicate Al. But it’s likely going to be Kansas vs ACC team. UNC is the answer to the question “Who does ND have to play to get me to root for them”?
So, meh.
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I gotta admit, my attention level is down for the FF. Go Nova, of course, they are carrying the BE banner, but losing a key part like they did at this point puts them at a significant disadvantage. I’m sort of rooting for Duke, though I hate to see K replicate Al. But it’s likely going to be Kansas vs ACC team. UNC is the answer to the question “Who does ND have to play to get me to root for them”?
So, meh.
So what you're saying is this is a total disaster? The answer is you root hard for Nova and have faith that if they don't win, whoever does win, will have their title vacated.
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If it’s a Kansas vs. North Carolina final, I’m cheering for a sinkhole to engulf the Superdome
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If it’s a [vacated] vs. [vacated] final, I’m cheering for a sinkhole to engulf the Superdome
FIFY
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So what you're saying is this is a total disaster? The answer is you root hard for Nova and have faith that if they don't win, whoever does win, will have their title vacated.
None of these teams would have their title vacated.
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None of these teams would have their title vacated.
Will the title be vacated - no. Should it be - absolutely. Of the four teams left, Nova is the only truly clean program.
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Will the title be vacated - no. Should it be - absolutely. Of the four teams left, Nova is the only truly clean program.
Lol
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What do you mean by "the only truly clean program?" Are you talking about past violations that are no longer under investigation? If so, how far in the past do we want to go because Nova has been under probation before.
Not everything is a purity test and no program is "truly clean."
Regardless my level of actually caring about this stuff has decreased tremendously over time. Just give me a couple of good basketball games.
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I think without Moore Nova really has their work cut out for them. They have to find a way to shoot a solid percentage from downtown.
Sucks that they are also missing Jordan Longino, who was shut down for the year just before the tourney for arthroscopic knee surgery. They don't play many, but he got decent minutes during the course of the year and would certainly have been useful now. Really feel for Moore and the whole Nova program. So impressive what they do.
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Will the title be vacated - no. Should it be - absolutely. Of the four teams left, Nova is the only truly clean program.
I get angry I don't live in a bubble this well constructed.
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Hubert Davis is finally getting some credit -- not only for being an excellent motivator (his pre-game speeches already had garnered quite a bit of attention), but also for his strategic moves.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article259903170.html?ac_cid=DM627117&ac_bid=-603288396
On a possession where they had to score, in a game they had to win, North Carolina head coach Hubert Davis called a play for Caleb Love that the sophomore guard had never run before.
Forward Armando Bacot said Davis has been so good on calling plays in halfcourt sets that he was confident it would work.
“It’s usually what we want for Kerwin (Walton), but Caleb been so hot,” Bacot said. “I mean, almost kind of forgot that play. For him to call that play at a big time moment like that and Caleb to hit that shot. I mean, it’s huge. And it just speaks on just how good of a coach Coach Davis has been all year.”
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Duke the favorite to win the title. Huh.