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Title: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: wadesworld on May 06, 2010, 01:40:08 PM
Supposedly because of final exams he couldn't work out for NBA teams but has been told he will be in the 10-25 selection range so he decided to hire an agent. I have to say I've always disliked Butler because I thought they were like Gonzaga (had a good run one year into the Sweet Sixteen to get put on the map and then dominate a weak confernce, being perenially overrated, then being overseeded and bowing out early every year, which is why I chose UTEP over them this year, having not watched them at all), but having watched them throughout the NCAA Tournament I really enjoy how Brad Stevens gets his team to play. They execute a very complex offensethat has an adjustment for any defense and play some really good in your face man-to-man defense. I really enjoyed watching Hayward play. He had a great all around game and for being 6'9" he could handle the ball like crazy and fill up the stat sheet. He's a really smooth player. It would've been fun to see Butler next year with him, but even if they would've been 1 of the most talented teams in the nation it's extremely tough to get back to where they were, so he's done pretty much everything he can at Butler.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: reinko on May 06, 2010, 01:44:41 PM
Supposedly because of final exams he couldn't work out for NBA teams but has been told he will be in the 10-25 selection range so he decided to hire an agent. I have to say I've always disliked Butler because I thought they were like Gonzaga (had a good run one year into the Sweet Sixteen to get put on the map and then dominate a weak confernce, being perenially overrated, then being overseeded and bowing out early every year, which is why I chose UTEP over them this year, having not watched them at all), but having watched them throughout the NCAA Tournament I really enjoy how Brad Stevens gets his team to play. They execute a very complex offensethat has an adjustment for any defense and play some really good in your face man-to-man defense. I really enjoyed watching Hayward play. He had a great all around game and for being 6'9" he could handle the ball like crazy and fill up the stat sheet. He's a really smooth player. It would've been fun to see Butler next year with him, but even if they would've been 1 of the most talented teams in the nation it's extremely tough to get back to where they were, so he's done pretty much everything he can at Butler.

There could be worse players I see the Bucks taking at 15.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 06, 2010, 01:51:44 PM
Good for Hayward. He's going to parlay Butler's run into some guaranteed scratch. Doubt he'll last until #15. Would have liked to see Stevens and Butler have another stellar season, if for no other reason, than to have the collar shrink a little more around Tan Tommy's fat little neck.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: damuts222 on May 06, 2010, 02:04:27 PM

Insert Tom Crean joke here
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2010, 02:51:27 PM
As a Bucks fan, PASS.

Give me a decent sized, young SG.

perhaps Xavier Henry?
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: LON on May 06, 2010, 03:03:50 PM
As a Bucks fan, PASS.

Give me a decent sized, young SG.

perhaps Xavier Henry?

Before or after they dump Charlie Bell?

Late for a meeting and bus ride for a game 7?  That's (insert Barkley) turrrrible.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: wadesworld on May 06, 2010, 03:13:26 PM
There could be worse players I see the Bucks taking at 15.
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that.  Hopefully we can get Salmons to sign with us and then you could platoon Hayward and Ilyasova (spelling?).

I really like Hayward's game.  If he can put on some weight he could do some damage in the NBA.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
It'll be nice to be a Bucks fan in the next 5 or so years.

with a decent draft choice this year and 2 stupid contracts expiring next year (Dan G, and Mike Redd), hopefully the Bucks can build a decent core.

Losses next year will be Luke Ridnour, Kurt Thomas (I say bring him back... he is old as hell, but is still a top notch defender).

Then again, after next year the NBA could be a complete mess, and might not be playing.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 06, 2010, 03:35:23 PM
Debatable whether Salmons resigns with the Bucks. Was shut down pretty well in games 6 & 7 after ATL made some adjustments on he and Jennings. MKE needs a legit 4 as much as anything.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: RJax55 on May 06, 2010, 03:46:55 PM
Hopefully we can get Salmons to sign with us

Honestly, if I was as a Bucks fan, I don't know if I would want Salmons resigned. It would depend how long/much the contract was worth.

Salmons strikes me as guy who turns it on for a brief period, gets paid, then sucks. Yes, he was awesome for the Bucks, but then again, he was great for the Bulls last year after coming over from the Kings. How did he do for the Bulls this season... He totally sucked.

The last thing I would want as a Bucks fan would be to finally shed the horrible contracts of Redd and Dan G, only to have a nonproductive Salmons in the first year of a long-term deal.

Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
Honestly, if I was as a Bucks fan, I don't know if I would want Salmons resigned. It would depend how long/much the contract was worth.

Salmons strikes me as guy who turns it on for a brief period, gets paid, then sucks. Yes, he was awesome for the Bucks, but then again, he was great for the Bulls last year after coming over from the Kings. How did he do for the Bulls this season... He totally sucked.

The last thing I would want as a Bucks fan would be to finally shed the horrible contracts of Redd and Dan G, only to have a nonproductive Salmons in the first year of a long-term deal.



I think what he meant was that next year Salmon's exercises his player option for 5.8 mil.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: GOMU1104 on May 06, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
I wouldnt be heartbroken if the Bucks dont resign Salmons.  I have a feeling the contract would become a point of contention after a very short period of time.

Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: GOMU1104 on May 06, 2010, 03:59:31 PM
I think what he meant was that next year the Bucks exercise Salmon's player option for 5.8 mil.

It is a player option, meaning the player decides if he wants it excercised.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 06, 2010, 04:00:37 PM
It is a player option, meaning the player decides if he wants it excercised.

yup, reread, and modified what I said before you posted :)
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 06, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
Bank it. Salmons will opt out.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: GGGG on May 06, 2010, 05:28:39 PM
My Salmons prediction is that he opts out.  Because of all the cap room out there, *someone* will overpay.  (I just hope it's not Milwaukee.)  The contract will look bad by Valentine's Day 2011.

Not a big loss IMO.  He can't really do anything off the dribble.  A sixth man at best.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: wyzgy on May 08, 2010, 05:32:00 PM
It'll be nice to be a Bucks fan in the next 5 or so years.

with a decent draft choice this year and 2 stupid contracts expiring next year (Dan G, and Mike Redd), hopefully the Bucks can build a decent core.

Losses next year will be Luke Ridnour, Kurt Thomas (I say bring him back... he is old as hell, but is still a top notch defender).

Then again, after next year the NBA could be a complete mess, and might not be playing.

i hope we can re-sign ridnour-he's clutch.  handles the ball well, great shot selection, playmaking ability-great off the bench and he is i believe our only  caucasian-american=diversity, right
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: wadefan#1 on May 08, 2010, 09:27:06 PM
This is terrible. Think about how good this guy could be if he stayed in college for 2 more years.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 08, 2010, 09:29:47 PM
This is terrible. Think about how good this guy could be if he stayed in college for 2 more years.


Think about all the money he's going to make right now coming off a FF.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: wadesworld on May 08, 2010, 09:49:10 PM
Think about all the money he's going to make right now coming off a FF.
Yup.  And how much better is he really going to get by playing in the Horizon League for the next 2 years?  He'll just dominate the competition.  He'll get better by practicing against NBA players every day, while making millions of dollars.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: GGGG on May 08, 2010, 09:58:22 PM

Think about all the money he's going to make right now coming off a FF.


Yeah, you can't pass up the money if you're a sure first rounder.
Title: Re: Gordan Hayward hiring an agent
Post by: shiloh26 on May 08, 2010, 10:00:06 PM
Honestly, if I was as a Bucks fan, I don't know if I would want Salmons resigned. It would depend how long/much the contract was worth.

Salmons strikes me as guy who turns it on for a brief period, gets paid, then sucks. Yes, he was awesome for the Bucks, but then again, he was great for the Bulls last year after coming over from the Kings. How did he do for the Bulls this season... He totally sucked.

The last thing I would want as a Bucks fan would be to finally shed the horrible contracts of Redd and Dan G, only to have a nonproductive Salmons in the first year of a long-term deal.



I see what you're saying, but I think a big part of Salmons sucking for the Bulls this year was Deng coming back.  The Bulls brought in Salmons to score and he did.  Then Deng got healthy and took over that option, and pretty much made Salmons a stand-in-the-corner 3 point shooter, which, as we saw, is not all he can do.  

I agree, we shouldn't just sign him long term, but with the right role he'd continue to be a good player.