Student Athlete Arrested for Battery

[GGGG]

http://marquettetribune.org/2013/09/17/news/assault-student-athlete-arrested-for-battery/

[Jay Bee]

s/b in Superbar since it's not Men's bb related.

[🏀]

2/1 odds it's a Lacrosse player.

[GGGG]

s/b in Superbar since it's not Men's bb related.

Says the guy quoting stock prices in a thread about Badger basketball playing in Canada.

[Boone]

This is a student's quote? Sounds more like something the DPS captain would say.


“(This assault is) obviously something of some seriousness because in most cases (MPD) would just give someone a battery citation, and they’d be on their way, but MPD looked at it as substantial battery, and that’s a more serious offense,” the student said.

[Jay Bee]

Says the guy quoting stock prices in a thread about Badger basketball playing in Canada.

Yes! I'm versatile, baby!

(ps - could be a girl who is in custody!)

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Yikes.

Can't be taking swings at officers.

That's a bad idea.

[swoopem]

Yes! I'm versatile, baby!

(ps - could be a girl who is in custody!)

That is true because the article said that the original officer on the scene was a woman. Pluse we all know us good Catholic boys would never hit a woman.

[T-Bone]

We need a quote from the "man on the street" student, otherwise there's nothing to the story. 
(can't remember the kid's name)

[Boone]

Not a girl.

"and while the officers were trying to speak to the subject, he ended up striking one DPS officer in the face."

[Coleman]

"A substantial battery charge carries a penalty of up to a $50,000 and up to 15 years in prison."


Yikes. Sounds like this athlete's career is done. I'm actually surprised its the same as battery against a student. You'd think hitting an DPS officer would be like hitting a cop, more serious an offense.

[Jay Bee]

Emmert probably got the SA riled up. Drop the charges!

[tower912]

Other than the fact the Milwaukee media hasn't picked it up and gone batcrap crazy with it, how is it know that it isn't a BB player?

[GGGG]

Other than the fact the Milwaukee media hasn't picked it up and gone batcrap crazy with it, how is it know that it isn't a BB player?

Apparently many students know of the incident and it isn't. 

[melissasmooth]

That is true because the article said that the original officer on the scene was a woman. Pluse we all know us good Catholic boys would never hit a woman.

[tower912]

Apparently many students know of the incident and it isn't. 

Fair enough.   Plus, the wonder twins haven't weighed in yet attempting to crucify Buzz, so it must not be a hoopster.   

[NersEllenson]

Wow - An athlete incident sullying the reputation of Marquette and Marquette athletics and Chicos isn't all over this thread?

We really should stop recruiting JUCOs in our other sports programs, and definitely may need to raise eligibility and academic even higher in light of this latest incident - as raising eligibility standards to their current level certainly wasn't enough to curtail bad behavior by an 18-22 year college student/athlete.

Hopefully administration will knee jerk react on this one too and raise standards even further, and in the event this athlete wasn't a JUCO - perhaps we can also move to reduce/eliminate recruiting from the high school ranks - and focus solely on those kids who attend prep school, or come from overseas.

[Coleman]

Wow - An athlete incident sullying the reputation of Marquette and Marquette athletics and Chicos isn't all over this thread?

Well he wasn't, but you just invited him. So thanks for that

[melissasmooth]

Wow - An athlete incident sullying the reputation of Marquette and Marquette athletics and Chicos isn't all over this thread?

We really should stop recruiting JUCOs in our other sports programs, and definitely may need to raise eligibility and academic even higher in light of this latest incident - as raising eligibility standards to their current level certainly wasn't enough to curtail bad behavior by an 18-22 year college student/athlete.

Hopefully administration will knee jerk react on this one too and raise standards even further, and in the event this athlete wasn't a JUCO - perhaps we can also move to reduce/eliminate recruiting from the high school ranks - and focus solely on those kids who attend prep school, or come from overseas.

Wow, I haven't been on Muscoop long but there seems to be a fair amount of bitterness in posts on here on numerous subjects. Seems like a lot of built up frustration. Is that an old man thing?

[Archies Bat]

Wow, I haven't been on Muscoop long but there seems to be a fair amount of bitterness in posts on here on numerous subjects. Seems like a lot of built up frustration. Is that an old man thing?

Out of the mouth of babes.

[NersEllenson]

Wow, I haven't been on Muscoop long but there seems to be a fair amount of bitterness in posts on here on numerous subjects. Seems like a lot of built up frustration. Is that an old man thing?

Being new to the board you wouldn't understand the context and perhaps sarcasm of my comments.  It isn't bitterness, it's more wisdom - you learn as you go along that at times adults/administrations knee jerk and overreact to incidents, and often impose "solutions" that in no way curtail the "problem," as the "problem" ultimately will never be eliminated...as its just a part of life...an example might be underage drinking..you make it illegal, impose fines, etc., but it still happens...just as drunk driving, drug usage, etc. So just as our administration raised eligibility standards for athletes, and ultimately making recruiting JUCO's more difficult - none of that will curtail offcourt incidents by student athletes.  IT's going to happen - they are 18-22 year old boys...

[NersEllenson]

Well he wasn't, but you just invited him. So thanks for that

Well done.  Good point.

[tower912]

Melissa, there have been many events surrounding MU and the basketball team since Scoop came online 7 years ago.   There have been heated arguments surrounding some of the less fortunate events.    You will find the longer you spend on scoop, the more clear the reasons for the animosities become.    People don't gain reputations after just a few posts or in a vacuum.   Patterns emerge.    

[lab_warrior]

Wow - An athlete incident sullying the reputation of Marquette and Marquette athletics and Chicos isn't all over this thread?

We really should stop recruiting JUCOs in our other sports programs, and definitely may need to raise eligibility and academic even higher in light of this latest incident - as raising eligibility standards to their current level certainly wasn't enough to curtail bad behavior by an 18-22 year college student/athlete.

Hopefully administration will knee jerk react on this one too and raise standards even further, and in the event this athlete wasn't a JUCO - perhaps we can also move to reduce/eliminate recruiting from the high school ranks - and focus solely on those kids who attend prep school, or come from overseas.

Calm down, Grimey.

[warriorchick]

Wow, I haven't been on Muscoop long but there seems to be a fair amount of bitterness in posts on here on numerous subjects. Seems like a lot of built up frustration. Is that an old man thing?

Yes, it definitely is an old man thing, Melissa.  Wait until they get off-topic and start trying to one-up each other about how hard they partied as an MU student.  That's what happens when you peak at 22.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Wow, I haven't been on Muscoop long but there seems to be a fair amount of bitterness in posts on here on numerous subjects. Seems like a lot of built up frustration. Is that an old man thing?

Are you inquiring about old man things?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Calm down, Grimey.

Exactly.  There are situations and there are SITUATIONS.   This is an gnat situation compared to what went down a few years ago and people with common sense will see it as such.  When the Chicago Tribune runs three front page stories, every newscast in town leads with the story for multiple days, you make ESPN and other national media, then someone can compare the two.   The incidents a few years ago did sully the university...badly...this is why there were CONSEQUENCES and people fired, policies changed.  This current situation.....stupid, but nothing more.  Surely Ners, Tower, Blueteaux and others understand the commons sense difference. 

And Melissa, patterns definitely emerge.  There are those that stick their heads in the sand and there are those that don't. 

[reinko]

Being new to the board you wouldn't understand the context and perhaps sarcasm of my comments.  It isn't bitterness, it's more wisdom - you learn as you go along that at times adults/administrations knee jerk and overreact to incidents, and often impose "solutions" that in no way curtail the "problem," as the "problem" ultimately will never be eliminated...as its just a part of life...an example might be underage drinking..you make it illegal, impose fines, etc., but it still happens...just as drunk driving, drug usage, etc. So just as our administration raised eligibility standards for athletes, and ultimately making recruiting JUCO's more difficult - none of that will curtail offcourt incidents by student athletes.  IT's going to happen - they are 18-22 year old boys...

Shut'er down.  Post of the year.


 

[tower912]

Exactly.  There are situations and there are SITUATIONS.   This is an gnat situation compared to what went down a few years ago and people with common sense will see it as such.  When the Chicago Tribune runs three front page stories, every newscast in town leads with the story for multiple days, you make ESPN and other national media, then someone can compare the two.   The incidents a few years ago did sully the university...badly...this is why there were CONSEQUENCES and people fired, policies changed.  This current situation.....stupid, but nothing more.  Surely Ners, Tower, Blueteaux and others understand the commons sense difference. 

And Melissa, patterns definitely emerge.  There are those that stick their heads in the sand and there are those that don't. 

Thanks, buddy.   To borrow from The Rock, "You know your role."

[Sir Lawrence]

Yes, it definitely is an old man thing, Melissa.  Wait until they get off-topic and start trying to one-up each other about how hard they partied as an MU student.  That's what happens when you peak at 22.

Says the gal who recently reminisced about "a night of pounding 3-for-a-buck RWBs at the 'Lanche."

[warriorchick]

Says the gal who recently reminisced about "a night of pounding 3-for-a-buck RWBs at the 'Lanche."

If you re-read that post carefully, you will note that I wasn't necessarily bragging.  Showing up at Marquette Donuts at 2 in the morning really isn't something to be proud of.

[Archies Bat]

Yes, it definitely is an old man thing, Melissa.  Wait until they get off-topic and start trying to one-up each other about how hard they partied as an MU student.  That's what happens when you peak at 22.

That's cuz we're old enough to know we can't talk like this in front of our wives, so this is the best place left.

[tower912]

Yes, it definitely is an old man thing, Melissa.  Wait until they get off-topic and start trying to one-up each other about how hard they partied as an MU student.  That's what happens when you peak at 22.

My life didn't peak at 22.   My drinking did.   

[4everwarriors]

Yes, it definitely is an old man thing, Melissa.  Wait until they get off-topic and start trying to one-up each other about how hard they partied as an MU student.  That's what happens when you peak at 22.

Or have a johnson measurin' dialogue.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Being new to the board you wouldn't understand the context and perhaps sarcasm of my comments.  It isn't bitterness, it's more wisdom - you learn as you go along that at times adults/administrations knee jerk and overreact to incidents, and often impose "solutions" that in no way curtail the "problem," as the "problem" ultimately will never be eliminated...as its just a part of life...an example might be underage drinking..you make it illegal, impose fines, etc., but it still happens...just as drunk driving, drug usage, etc. So just as our administration raised eligibility standards for athletes, and ultimately making recruiting JUCO's more difficult - none of that will curtail offcourt incidents by student athletes.  IT's going to happen - they are 18-22 year old boys...

You're partially right.

Does raising admissions "solve" the issues? Eh. I don't think that is does or will.

However, I don't want MU simply shrugging and saying "boys will be boys" when there are incidents of really poor decision making. That's a bad stance to take.

MU (as an institution) needs to help guide the student athletes on how they should and shouldn't be acting, and enforce the appropriate consequences. I think we can all agree on that. That applies to every sports team, including LaCrosse, track, golf, etc. etc.

The coaching staff should certainly be involved, but as a matter of checks and balances, other parties need some visibility as well.

Not that complicated.

If/when MU continues to show good judgement when these situations occur, then I think we'll all be more confident in the outcomes.

[4everwarriors]

Says the gal who recently reminisced about "a night of pounding 3-for-a-buck RWBs at the 'Lanche."

Solid, bro, solid.

[MerrittsMustache]

Exactly.  There are situations and there are SITUATIONS.   This is an gnat situation compared to what went down a few years ago and people with common sense will see it as such.  When the Chicago Tribune runs three front page stories, every newscast in town leads with the story for multiple days, you make ESPN and other national media, then someone can compare the two.   The incidents a few years ago did sully the university...badly...this is why there were CONSEQUENCES and people fired, policies changed.  This current situation.....stupid, but nothing more.  Surely Ners, Tower, Blueteaux and others understand the commons sense difference. 

And Melissa, patterns definitely emerge.  There are those that stick their heads in the sand and there are those that don't. 

If you polled college sports fans outside of Wisconsin, 99% of them would have no idea of the SITUATION that took place at Marquette a couple years back.

[Benny B]

A student involved in the incident, who chose to remain anonymous, told the Tribune immediately after the incident that the student athlete who struck the DPS officers was under the influence of an unidentified illegal substance.

How do they know if it's illegal if it's unidentified?  In the words of the late Johnnie Cochran:  "If it's unidentifiable, the case against him is friable."


(Johnnie's one-liners were a bit of a stretch in his later years.)

[warriorchick]

How do they know if it's illegal if it's unidentified?  In the words of the late Johnnie Cochran:  "If it's unidentifiable, the case against him is friable."


(Johnnie's one-liners were a bit of a stretch in his later years.)

Here's how:

Anonymous student:  "That dude was stoned!"

Reporter: "What was he on?"

Anonymous student:  "I'd rather not say."

[melissasmooth]

If you re-read that post carefully, you will note that I wasn't necessarily bragging.  Showing up at Marquette Donuts at 2 in the morning really isn't something to be proud of.

Well i am all for improving on ones drinking ability.

[Lennys Tap]

Exactly.  There are situations and there are SITUATIONS.   This is an gnat situation compared to what went down a few years ago and people with common sense will see it as such.  

 

This is a "gnat" because it's not a basketball player. This is much, much more serious than underage college kids being in a bar (not drinking) or a one punch fight between two students over a (presumed) racial slur. I don't recall hearing you or the local media shrugging off those non events as "gnats", but I'm not the least bit surprised.

[jsglow]

This is a "gnat" because it's not a basketball player. This is much, much more serious than underage college kids being in a bar (not drinking) or a one punch fight between two students over a (presumed) racial slur. I don't recall hearing you or the local media shrugging off those non events as "gnats", but I'm not the least bit surprised.

+1

But of course we all know what sells newspapers, etc.

Kid made a very big mistake and will be very fortunate if he doesn't face a pretty serious penalty.  I've certainly 'erred' in my life but was always smart enough (sober enough) to remember that 'Yes officer' was the only appropriate response.

I liken it to watching an episode of Campus PD.  Hey kids, when the party gets busted quietly walk out the front door and go back to your dorm immediately just like the officer says.  Hang around and mouth off.... plan on wearing some cuffs.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thanks, buddy.   To borrow from The Rock, "You know your role."

Yup, the one that doesn't put his head in the sand.

[jsglow]

My life didn't peak at 22.   My drinking did.   

So did chick's.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If you polled college sports fans outside of Wisconsin, 99% of them would have no idea of the SITUATION that took place at Marquette a couple years back.

43% of people can't identify New York on a map. http://technorati.com/lifestyle/travel/article/americans-lack-geographic-literacy-cant-find/     That doesn't make it ok.  I'm not worried about the ignorant people in this country, I was worried about the image of the school.  Apparently so were the people that run it, which is why they reacted the way they did.  It was good to see a few adults in charge.

[tower912]

Yup, the one that doesn't put his head in the sand.

Some say burying one's head in the sand, some say not to leap to conclusions.

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/4276/20130821/maryland-basketball-player-dez-wells-sues-xavier-university-wrongful-expulsion.htm


But we've beaten this horse to death before and it ended poorly for you.   We are never going to change the other's mind.    It's fun having you off of 'ignore'.

[ChicosBailBonds]

This is a "gnat" because it's not a basketball player. This is much, much more serious than underage college kids being in a bar (not drinking) or a one punch fight between two students over a (presumed) racial slur. I don't recall hearing you or the local media shrugging off those non events as "gnats", but I'm not the least bit surprised.

Yes, not a basketball player is a big reason why it would be "gnat" like coverage.

I was comparing this situation to two sexual assault situations, for which it is not even close to as serious as this one....gnat like.   I don't see where I compared it at all to bar fights or presumed slur....I don't see where anyone did.

[Jay Bee]

Make no mistake, Chicos would be creating much Hoopla around this if it were a men's basketball player.

Double standards? But of course. We know that and still accept him for who/what he is.

[Coleman]

Make no mistake, Chicos would be creating much Hoopla around this if it were a men's basketball player.

Hoopaloopla

[tower912]

Hoopaloopla

Well played. 

[muhoops1]

Saw that a student athlete was arrested for assaulting a DPS Officer.  Any ideas of who is in custody?

[thehammock]

There's a thread covering this topic in the Superbar.

[MUBillsTil2017]

PTM wins the lotto.  It was a men's lax student athlete.  My source is impeccable. 

[Lennys Tap]

Yes, not a basketball player is a big reason why it would be "gnat" like coverage.

I was comparing this situation to two sexual assault situations, for which it is not even close to as serious as this one....gnat like.   I don't see where I compared it at all to bar fights or presumed slur....I don't see where anyone did.

When our African American basketball players were cited for (oh, the humanity) being in a bar (not drinking) underage and it became a cause celebe in local print and radio where was your outrage? When an African American basketball player was involved in a one punch fight over a presumed racial slur where were your "this deserves less than gnat like coverage" comments?
But when it's likely that a white student athlete assaults a campus cop it's a non story to you.

More than once you've brought up the bigoted coverage outlets like the New York Times gave the Duke lacrosse case. I agree. It was disgraceful, but for them the idea of privileged white Duke student athletes sexually assaulting a poor black girl was too appealing to let a few facts get in the way. Yet here you are three years after the fact referring to something that never met the threshold of anything more than an allegation as "a sexual assault situation". You're massaging the facts to fit your preferred narrative, just like the Times did.

[Sunbelt15]

When our African American basketball players were cited for (oh, the humanity) being in a bar (not drinking) underage and it became a cause celebe in local print and radio where was your outrage? When an African American basketball player was involved in a one punch fight over a presumed racial slur where were your "this deserves less than gnat like coverage" comments?
But when it's likely that a white student athlete assaults a campus cop it's a non story to you.

More than once you've brought up the bigoted coverage outlets like the New York Times gave the Duke lacrosse case. I agree. It was disgraceful, but for them the idea of privileged white Duke student athletes sexually assaulting a poor black girl was too appealing to let a few facts get in the way. Yet here you are three years after the fact referring to something that never met the threshold of anything more than an allegation as "a sexual assault situation". You're massaging the facts to fit your preferred narrative, just like the Times did.

Damn Chicos! Is it like that.....??!!   (Trolling)

[MerrittsMustache]

43% of people can't identify New York on a map. http://technorati.com/lifestyle/travel/article/americans-lack-geographic-literacy-cant-find/     That doesn't make it ok.  I'm not worried about the ignorant people in this country, I was worried about the image of the school.  Apparently so were the people that run it, which is why they reacted the way they did.  It was good to see a few adults in charge.

When did I say, or even imply, that sexual assault accusations are OK if most people don't know about them? I was merely refuting your predictably exaggerated claim that those accusations badly sullied the university. The fact is, it really didn't much at all to Marquette University's image, considering that it wasn't a major story at the time and is at most an afterthought right now.

[Benny B]

PTM wins the lotto.  It was a men's lax student athlete.  My source is impeccable. 

Dammit, I never win.  Why do I keep picking Women's Rugby, anyway?

[🏀]

PTM wins the lotto.  It was a men's lax student athlete.  My source is impeccable. 

[Blue Horseshoe]

Mystery solved. Acid + laxbro = mugshot


http://deadspin.com/marquette-lacrosse-player-accused-of-dropping-acid-pun-1358281588?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Punched a female cop. Nice. This kid may end up in jail.

[Blue Horseshoe]

Punched a female cop. Nice. This kid may end up in jail.

MU Public Safety Officers are not a real cops.

[warriorchick]

MU Public Safety Officers are not a real cops.

Yeah, that's totally the defense he should go with.

[tower912]

MU Public Safety Officers are not a real cops.

Pretty sure that is not going to matter in court. 

[wadesworld]

Mystery solved. Acid + laxbro = mugshot


http://deadspin.com/marquette-lacrosse-player-accused-of-dropping-acid-pun-1358281588?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Dude got Pilarz out.  Let's put up a golden statue in front of the AL and BC.

[MU82]

Who the hell takes acid anymore?

What is this, 1967?

[Coleman]

.

[ChicosBailBonds]

When our African American basketball players were cited for (oh, the humanity) being in a bar (not drinking) underage and it became a cause celebe in local print and radio where was your outrage?

I'm pretty sure I was banned back then

[Spotcheck Billy]

Who the hell takes acid anymore?

What is this, 1967?

and no one does heroin anymore either

[jesmu84]

At least we're getting some good national attention...

http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/barstoolu/super-page/does-this-look-like-the-face-of-a-marquette-lax-bro-who-punched-a-chick-cop-in-the-face-twice-while-tripping-on-acid/

[ChicosBailBonds]

Is your child a Lax Bro?

http://gawker.com/5915869/is-your-child-a-lax-bro

[MUBillsTil2017]

Is your child a Lax Bro?

http://gawker.com/5915869/is-your-child-a-lax-bro

Early in my daughters's LAX career I was watching some middle schooler boys LAX.  I got Hooked when I watched a big tall Lax bro pick up a smaller boy by his shoulder harness and slam him to the grounded, one handed.  Sure he was expelled from the game, but the creativity of violence hooked me.  Despite that having observed my daughter play club soccer and LAX, I am sure LAX is much less dangerous and violent than soccer.

The man who took hits of LSD could have been any college kid, sports or not.  Just too bad it was at Marquette. 

[MUBurrow]

The man who took hits of LSD could have been any college kid, sports or not.  Just too bad it was at Marquette. 

But it wasn't. It was a Lax Bro at a Zedd concert. Because of course it was.

[🏀]

But it wasn't. It was a Lax Bro at a Zedd concert. Because of course it was.

Let's leave Zedd out of this.

[Pakuni]

More Lax Bro hijinks (this one at Auburn).

http://deadspin.com/lacrosse-player-steals-truck-says-he-wanted-to-play-re-1373632458

[forgetful]

More Lax Bro hijinks (this one at Auburn).

http://deadspin.com/lacrosse-player-steals-truck-says-he-wanted-to-play-re-1373632458

Cornell also cancelled their entire Lacrosse season because of hazing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/24/us-usa-hazing-cornell-idUSBRE98N02R20130924

[Eldon]

Thank you all for the entertainment.  This thread so far has been very amusing.  Never heard of Laxbros until today.

Official story says that when found by his friend, the student was making "extreme gestures."  What could someone possibly gesticulate that would fall under the category of "extreme?"

[MUBillsTil2017]

Thank you all for the entertainment.  This thread so far has been very amusing.  Never heard of Laxbros until today.

Official story says that when found by his friend, the student was making "extreme gestures."  What could someone possibly gesticulate that would fall under the category of "extreme?"

For starters, slugging a teammate in the face who tried to get him back to his dorm before he brought attention to himself....

[Benny B]

Thank you all for the entertainment.  This thread so far has been very amusing.  Never heard of Laxbros until today.

Official story says that when found by his friend, the student was making "extreme gestures."  What could someone possibly gesticulate that would fall under the category of "extreme?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/picturegalleries/8788932/Rude-hand-gestures-of-the-world.html?image=3

My guess is that he was doing the Fishy Smell.