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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on March 29, 2024, 08:01:49 AM
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I am feeling better about this game than I probably should. If MU plays its game, I think they win by 10. Move the ball, hit open shots, trap effectively, get some turnovers. Be MU.
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Yeah. I was feeling that way until I saw the upsets yesterday. Now I’m all nervous. 10 hours to go? Yikes.
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Yeah. I was feeling that way until I saw the upsets yesterday. Now I’m all nervous. 10 hours to go? Yikes.
As far as the upsets go, Arizona couldn’t make buckets. 3’s and a fair amount of bunnies despite a lot of second chances. Clemson made a lot of lucky/weird shots. Upset recipe.
Bama-UNC was more of a toss up than the seeding indicated just because Bama can get buckets, just a matter of they could get enough stops and they did late.
Between the two, I’d guess if Marquette were to lose, it’d be more of the first scenario.
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Fair. If MU has a game reminiscent of the Butler game they will lose. It would be helpful if NCState decided to play defense like Villanova in game one. Who wouldn't love 60 points at the hoop? I am not optimistic about that.
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I am feeling better about this game than I probably should. If MU plays its game, I think they win by 10. Move the ball, hit open shots, trap effectively, get some turnovers. Be MU.
Same. Don’t go 18% from deep and I think we’re going to be good
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As far as the upsets go, Arizona couldn’t make buckets. 3’s and a fair amount of bunnies despite a lot of second chances. Clemson made a lot of lucky/weird shots. Upset recipe.
Bama-UNC was more of a toss up than the seeding indicated just because Bama can get buckets, just a matter of they could get enough stops and they did late.
Between the two, I’d guess if Marquette were to lose, it’d be more of the first scenario.
I think someone made a post a few days ago that showed a lot of teams have shot really poorly from 3 against NC State on their run. I think if we shoot our average from 3, we will be in good shape.
I think it's good the team was able to see some upsets yesterday. Especially because now we wouldn't be the first 1/2 seed to lose, it may take a little pressure off.
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I wrote that I am "cautiously optimistic" in my email to Marquette alumni family members about the game. Despite the three losses without Kolek (and one without Oso also), our team stayed in those games until late. We also played well in the other two BET games. Add our regular season to all of this and I think that a cautious optimism is very reasonable. Had NC State not taken down UNC and Duke in the ACC tourney, I would be very optimistic.
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Didn’t realize until I looked at their roster that NCS only has 1 guy in their 8 man rotation (a freshman) who hasn’t played in one or two other division 1 programs.
This will be a clash of philosophies. I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that a team pieced together that way would take some time to jell.
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It’s normal to feel cautious.
It’s also normal to realize this team is ready for its moment.
Let’s fu*king go!!
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I’m not really buying the ‘well they gelled’ stuff. Burns has heated up, but they’re just on a seven-game run… which started with beating crappy Louisville and gross Syracuse. Other wins include Virginia (in OT), Oakland (in OT).. so that leaves us with Duke, UNC and Tech… those teams shot 25.0%, 26.7% and 22.6% from three.
In the seven game stretch, the eclipsed 1.20 ppp once – against Louisville – while also giving up 1.19 to the Cards. They’ve had one game where they’ve allowed less than 0.98 ppp in the stretch (to Syracuse, whose offense blows).
As a comp, we’ve scored >1.20 ppp eleven times this year. We’ve allowed less than 0.98 ppp sixteen times.
They’ve had a nice streak, but there’s nothing about this team that makes me think anything other than ‘wow, what a middling, mediocre team in every way except not coughing up the ball’. Feb 27 – Mar 9 isn’t that long ago. They went 0-4 in that stretch prior to the seven-game winning streak. They were 5-1 in conference at one point.. and finished out 4-10 the rest of the way. Did they gel early, lose it, they re-gel?
No, they’re just not a great team.
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No, they’re just not a great team.
Generally agree. The only thing scary about them is that they "shouldn't" be in the S16. But here we are.
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Majority of bets have been on NC State but the line moved from -6.5 to what looks like will land on -7.5. Sharp money is on MU.
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Generally agree. The only thing scary about them is that they "shouldn't" be in the S16. But here we are.
Always a team like this. Generally believe this staff won’t let Marquette overlook them. Think it kind of helps it’s an ACC 11-seed and not a mid-major 11-seed.
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Same. Don’t go 18% from deep and I think we’re going to be good
Also, don't have someone pull a Caleb Love and take just horrible shots. Still thinking about that 20 foot one-legged floater that hit only air.
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…and must be destroyed!!! Let’s go Warriors!
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- Burns has one move. He gets to the lower block by the paint on the left side. He then turns to his right and uses his left hand to make a shot that usually banks off the glass. Defense for that. When he is doubled, Burns is an excellent passer to the open man for a three. O'Connell and Horne are dangerous ones. So, MU needs to be careful of that.
- Mitchell shut down Horne. Don't let him go off, he is sort of due.
- If you Scoopers thought Providence's Oduro is a hated player, get ready for Middlebrooks.........
Good luck to the team. #2 seeds should beat #11 seeds.
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As far as the upsets go, Arizona couldn’t make buckets. 3’s and a fair amount of bunnies despite a lot of second chances. Clemson made a lot of lucky/weird shots. Upset recipe.
Bama-UNC was more of a toss up than the seeding indicated just because Bama can get buckets, just a matter of they could get enough stops and they did late.
Between the two, I’d guess if Marquette were to lose, it’d be more of the first scenario.
NC got outcoached. They got caught up in the run and gun game and that favored Bama.
Arizona got outcoached. They kept chucking 3s when they had success down low. We have been prone to do that for stretches as well.
I never believed the Iowa St hype train so Illinois winning was not a surprise.
My biggest worry is foul trouble. Second biggest worry is 3-point shooting going cold.
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NC got outcoached. They got caught up in the run and gun game and that favored Bama.
Arizona got outcoached. They kept chucking 3s when they had success down low. We have been prone to do that for stretches as well.
I never believed the Iowa St hype train so Illinois winning was not a surprise.
My biggest worry is foul trouble. Second biggest worry is 3-point shooting going cold.
UNC plays uptempo. Don’t think that was an issue. They weren’t going to slow it down
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UNC plays uptempo. Don’t think that was an issue. They weren’t going to slow it down
Not the way Bama plays it. Not saying they needed to play slow, just a little slower than the tempo last night. Everything was short for UNC as that game went along.
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Not the way Bama plays it.
It was a 72 possession game. UNC averaged 70.5 possessions a game, Bama 73.
The Michigan State was a 71-possession game.
Tempo wasn’t an issue. Missing shots in the second half was an issue
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Took a look at the 247 NC State message board. Among my favorites:
-Force Kolek right
-Morsell will be on Kolek so we don't have to worry about that
Also, no inclination about how good Kam has been.
Obviously none of that matters and every board has some wild takes but the "force Kolek right" is always a classic.
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Missing shots cost Arizona, too. 5-28 from 3 in a 5 point game.
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Took a look at the 247 NC State message board. Among my favorites:
-Force Kolek right
-Morsell will be on Kolek so we don't have to worry about that
Also, no inclination about how good Kam has been.
Obviously none of that matters and every board has some wild takes but the "force Kolek right" is always a classic.
They aren't wrong. Easier said than done.
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They aren't wrong. Easier said than done.
Maybe it’s semantics. But as I said in another thread. There isn’t forcing him right. He’s not gonna do that.
Take away him going to his left? Sure. But easier said than done.
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It just amuses me because what else do you think team's have been trying to do the past 2 seasons?
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-Morsell will be on Kolek so we don't have to worry about that
I'm struggling to understand what they mean by "we don't have to worry about that". Like they think this matchup will make Kolek a non-factor? Mmk.
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Only Tom Izzo can force Kolek right
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UConn has the secret sauce. Defend him with someone at least his size and preferably quicker. Stay home on the shooters. Have Clingan in drop coverage.
If the opposing team can't do that, I like TKo's chances.
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Our aggressive, trapping style defense is going to be the downfall of NC State’s offense…or will give them a ton of good looks and easy baskets.
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It just amuses me because what else do you think team's have been trying to do the past 2 seasons?
Often attempted, seldom accomplished
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Take
Care
Of
BUSINESS!
PERIOD!!!
CARPE DIEM!!!!!!!
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It just amuses me because what else do you think team's have been trying to do the past 2 seasons?
That’s also what I said
Randoms on the internet act like the 20ish coaches we’ve played all year couldn’t come up with that thought.
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Missing shots cost Arizona, too. 5-28 from 3 in a 5 point game.
You keep forcing dumb shots and it will usually work against you. Arizona was brain dead the last 10 minutes even with significant help from the refs. Caleb Love is and will always be a chucker
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Most teams take open 3s even when they aren't falling. MU certainly did. Unwavering belief the next one will go in and the dominoes will start. It works over time, sometimes not within a particular game. In a loser goes home scenario, it can be poison.
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Most teams take open 3s even when they aren't falling. MU certainly did. Unwavering belief the next one will go in and the dominoes will start. It works over time, sometimes not within a particular game. In a loser goes home scenario, it can be poison.
If your offense is designed to get you a particular shot -- you take it when it's there. Even when MU wasn't shooting very well at times this season, they were taking good shots. Nothing should change tonight. Hopefully our guys don't have an uncharacteristically bad shooting game. We should win...but that's why they play the games.
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Clemson and Bama are better than NC State.
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. #2 seeds should beat #11 seeds.
I think we’re past the point where the number seed makes any difference.
The seeds are established based on performance for the whole season, but all that matters tonight is how that team plays tonight, and recent performance is a much better predictor, especially for a team that spent the season trying to mesh together an assortment of new, but experienced players.
What I see is a team that beat Duke and UNC, was extremely fortunate to beat a mediocre Virginia team, and went to OT against the champions of the Horizon League (a team that won a squeaker against UWM to get into the NCAA, but also beat a 3 seed Kentucky). All four of those games were in the last two weeks.
So, I see a team that is capable of beating teams as good as MU and is riding high with confidence. I also see a team that is clearly not unbeatable and needed some breaks to make the NCAA tournament and survive the first weekend.
Put it all together and MU better play it’s A game or it could be in trouble. As we saw last night, being a high seed and being a 6-7 point favorite doesn’t guarantee anything.
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Only Tom Izzo can force Kolek right
Stew Morrill could have. Easily.
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https://twitter.com/BE_GoldenEagle/status/1773709012204183809?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
What is up with all of this frivolity? They should be out shooting 18 ft jump shots.
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Only after they practice free throw shooting for at least three hours.
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https://twitter.com/BE_GoldenEagle/status/1773709012204183809?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
What is up with all of this frivolity? They should be out shooting 18 ft jump shots.
Love the 74 jerseys
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Took a look at the 247 NC State message board. Among my favorites:
-Force Kolek right
-Morsell will be on Kolek so we don't have to worry about that
Also, no inclination about how good Kam has been.
Obviously none of that matters and every board has some wild takes but the "force Kolek right" is always a classic.
Speaking of Kam: https://twitter.com/MM_MBB_TV/status/1773469607065506178
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Love the 74 jerseys
Agreed. That was pretty cool.
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Kolek-them
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Put it all together and MU better play it’s A game or it could be in trouble.
Sure, probably.
But isn't the same true of NC State? Or are they so great they only need their C game to beat mediocre ol' MU?
- If you Scoopers thought Providence's Oduro is a hated player, get ready for Middlebrooks.........
Does Middlebrooks go out of his way to injure multiple opposing players?
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Speaking of Kam: https://twitter.com/MM_MBB_TV/status/1773469607065506178
Kam can do his boxing hobby a lot more if he comes back another year.
NBA he’s gonna have to lock in on making a team.
Come on back kid!
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Love seeing OMax catching up with the team (https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1773764311418015873?s=20)
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Sure, probably.
But isn't the same true of NC State? Or are they so great they only need their C game to beat mediocre ol' MU?
Does Middlebrooks go out of his way to injure multiple opposing players?
Depends what half, since I learned recently from announcers that the second half is the most important half
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Love the 74 jerseys
Where can I buy one?
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Love seeing OMax catching up with the team (https://x.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1773764311418015873?s=20)
All love. This is great
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https://twitter.com/BE_GoldenEagle/status/1773709012204183809?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
What is up with all of this frivolity? They should be out shooting 18 ft jump shots.
I am reminded of certain Bill Murray line from Stripes
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And here is Grant Hill meeting and talking with the team (https://www.facebook.com/reel/862451145638104).
Interesting to see the the numbers the walk-ons are wearing. I guess Jonah Lucas is playing the role of DJ Horne.
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Let’s play our game ti ogit and control the pace. Tough D and rebound! We will get good looks…. Just drop them in guys! Go Marquette!
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And here is Grant Hill meeting and talking with the team (https://www.facebook.com/reel/862451145638104).
Interesting to see the the numbers the walk-ons are wearing. I guess Jonah Lucas is playing the role of DJ Horne.
Did they tape two walk-ons together to play Burns?
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Amadou and Jack Riley.
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I expect we will respect our opponent, play confident, focused basketball, ignore distractions and be the best of who we are. Elite 8 will be the reward for MU.
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I am feeling better about this game than I probably should. If MU plays its game, I think they win by 10. Move the ball, hit open shots, trap effectively, get some turnovers. Be MU.
Lucky unwashed Butch Lee jersey here pregaming, and brought ron to celebrate with those you met, LFG!!!
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Giddyup
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Lucky unwashed Butch Lee jersey here pregaming, and brought ron to celebrate with those you met, LFG!!!
If we win the whole damn thing, can we get a 30 for 30 called "Unwashed"?
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- Burns has one move. He gets to the lower block by the paint on the left side. He then turns to his right and uses his left hand to make a shot that usually banks off the glass. Defense for that. When he is doubled, Burns is an excellent passer to the open man for a three. O'Connell and Horne are dangerous ones. So, MU needs to be careful of that.
- Mitchell shut down Horne. Don't let him go off, he is sort of due.
- If you Scoopers thought Providence's Oduro is a hated player, get ready for Middlebrooks.........
Good luck to the team. #2 seeds should beat #11 seeds.
Not bad in second half, but first half was a complete debacle defensively. Burns had 5 assists when doubled, which were 3 threes and two regular field goals. His passing was major factor for the first half lead and even TV analysts ripped MU for defense on him. On to next year.