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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: jonny09 on June 10, 2016, 10:44:12 AM
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Am I missing something? Is he participating in Oregon this week? If so, what has he done so far?
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Am I missing something? Is he participating in Oregon this week? If so, what has he done so far?
He did not place high enough in the regionals to make it to the event this week.
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So much for the Olympic caliber athlete narrative
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So much for the Olympic caliber athlete narrative
He does have Olympic caliber talent. He had an awful outdoor season.
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He does have Olympic caliber talent. He had an awful outdoor season.
Wojo's mind games got him.
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He does have Olympic caliber talent. He had an awful outdoor season.
You consider 12th best in the country Olympic level?
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You consider 12th best in the country Olympic level?
I consider a college jumper that cleared 2.28m (7' 5.75") Olympic caliber.
2.28m is also the Olympic Trials standard. Needed to jump that height after May 2015. Wally jumped 2.28m in January 2015.
Most jumpers hit their peak in their late 20s and even into their early 30s. So yes, he is Olympics caliber. He was always going to perform best in 2020 and/or 2024. I was hoping he would have made the trials for the experience but had almost no chance of qualifying for Rio (most likely needs 2.35m to 2.38m to be top 3).
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Wojo's mind games got him.
Actually, I read somewhere that he has a morbid fear of zika
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Wojo's mind games got him.
Might be more true than you think.
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Might be more true than you think.
Thanks for Participating!
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Wallly's best from last year equaled the winning height in this year's NCAA final by none other than Randall Cunningham, Jr. Yes, the son of the former Philly Eagles QB.
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I consider a college jumper that cleared 2.28m (7' 5.75") Olympic caliber.
2.28m is also the Olympic Trials standard. Needed to jump that height after May 2015. Wally jumped 2.28m in January 2015.
Most jumpers hit their peak in their late 20s and even into their early 30s. So yes, he is Olympics caliber. He was always going to perform best in 2020 and/or 2024. I was hoping he would have made the trials for the experience but had almost no chance of qualifying for Rio (most likely needs 2.35m to 2.38m to be top 3).
The Olympic standard is 2.29 meters, which last look Wally has never come close to outdoors. Look, dude is an awesome high jumper, but the whole narrative that it was good for him to be cut, for the olympics THIS year is completely wrong.
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The Olympic standard is 2.29 meters, which last look Wally has never come close to outdoors. Look, dude is an awesome high jumper, but the whole narrative that it was good for him to be cut, for the olympics THIS year is completely wrong.
Who has espoused this narrative of cutting him was doing him a favor? Cutting him was all about the team, and is reason enough for me. We shouldn't need to make up narratives to make a decision look better.
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Who has espoused this narrative of cutting him was doing him a favor? Cutting him was all about the team, and is reason enough for me. We shouldn't need to make up narratives to make a decision look better.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=51609.msg832053#msg832053
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Wally was cut from the team? When did that happen?!?!?!?!?! Is this Wojoshima?
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http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=51609.msg832053#msg832053
Eh, so one poster characterized something as not quite the worst thing in the world for Wally isn't exactly a Scoop wide narrative saying he was cut for that reason.
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Wally was cut from the team? When did that happen?!?!?!?!?! Is this Wojoshima?
Was this your morning paper this morning when you woke up from your coma? ;)
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I enjoyed reading that he would be an "American hero" if he won gold at the Olympics. Unless someone wins multiple medals and becomes a commercial spokesman a la Michael Phelps, I forget who wins Olympic medals by the first day the NFL season kicks off.
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I enjoyed reading that he would be an "American hero" if he won gold at the Olympics. Unless someone wins multiple medals and becomes a commercial spokesman a la Michael Phelps, I forget who wins Olympic medals by the first day the NFL season kicks off.
I agree. I consider myself a pretty big sports fan and I like to watch the Summer Olympics, but off the top of my head, I can name two American high jumpers. Dick Fosbury, the guy who invented the Fosbury Flop which I think is the back first approach over the bar that is commonly used. If you showed me his picture I would have no idea who he was. The other is Dwight Stones, who was a recognizable face a while back but to tell you the truth, I wouldn't know without looking it up if Stones ever won an Olympic Gold Medal.
I think people tend to remember a couple of major events (like the decathlon or the 100 meters or gymnastics) if the winners are American, but otherwise they need to be multiple winners or have out-sized personalities or be very good looking to be remembered.
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Was this your morning paper this morning when you woke up from your coma? ;)
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Wait ... I'm confused. The headline says Dewey beats Truman, but it appears from his smile that Truman actually won this.
Next thing you know, somebody will be trying to tell us that the Lindbergh baby was kidnapped!
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Wait ... I'm confused. The headline says Dewey beats Truman, but it appears from his smile that Truman actually won this.
Next thing you know, somebody will be trying to tell us that the Lindbergh baby was kidnapped!
Kidnapped you say?! That's crazy, I hope all this drama doesn't impact whether or not Mr. Lincoln enjoyed My American Cousin at the theater.
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Wallly's best from last year equaled the winning height in this year's NCAA final by none other than Randall Cunningham, Jr. Yes, the son of the former Philly Eagles QB.
And his younger sister is the best young female high jumper in the world, already signed with Nike.
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Wally was jumping at a usatf event yesterday in Waukesha. I don't think he got the height he wanted by watching from a distance. I could be wrong but there is another event June 26 at Waukesha that will still count.
Kind of surprised how low key these events were. Only 5-10 people watching ellenson. I thought more reps from the MU team would be watching/competing (but it is summer so who knows)
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Wally was jumping at a usatf event yesterday in Waukesha. I don't think he got the height he wanted by watching from a distance. I could be wrong but there is another event June 26 at Waukesha that will still count.
Kind of surprised how low key these events were. Only 5-10 people watching ellenson. I thought more reps from the MU team would be watching/competing (but it is summer so who knows)
The meet at Carroll College was an age group meet. No "open" high Jump. No Wally results listed.
http://entries.pttiming.com/system/results/files/16680/original/Saturday-Results.htm?1465673704
Is this the meet you're talking about.
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The meet at Carroll College was an age group meet. No "open" high Jump. No Wally results listed.
http://entries.pttiming.com/system/results/files/16680/original/Saturday-Results.htm?1465673704
Is this the meet you're talking about.
Weird. Well he was there, jumped and looked disappointed after not getting over the bar. If he was the only one in his age group and didn't register any official jumps, maybe they don't record it? He jumped over one bar pretty easily, so not sure if that was just him warming up or an official attempt.
Most of the events only had 1-3 competitors. It was actually pretty funny watching 70 year old men "compete" in the 1500m.
Though, looking through the results, that may just be from Saturday since I don't see any adult listings.
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Wally has been going to workouts with Hank, as he has been seen on various videos.
So flying around with Hank, trying to maybe be Olympic worthy, and still practice with mubb?
Yeah, I'm over the Ellensons now
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Wally has been going to workouts with Hank, as he has been seen on various videos.
So flying around with Hank, trying to maybe be Olympic worthy, and still practice with mubb?
Yeah, I'm over the Ellensons now
But he wouldn't be flying with hank if he was part of mubb.
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But he wouldn't be flying with hank if he was part of mubb.
You sure about that? My train of thought is he wanted to be part of the Hank tour, and Woj said no.
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You sure about that? My train of thought is he wanted to be part of the Hank tour, and Woj said no.
Wojo can still tell him what to do after he's been cut? That seems odd.
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Wojo can still tell him what to do after he's been cut? That seems odd.
Woj said no, and he was then cut.
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Woj said no, and he was then cut.
OK
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OK
Yep, you good now?
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http://m.journaltimes.com/sports/gery-woelfel-racine-in-running-for-bucks-d-league-team/article_cc801bfb-e734-5217-a8db-2134034b07c5.html
"Ellenson isn’t the only member of his family who has finished his athletic career at Marquette.
I’ve been told Wally Ellenson, Henry’s older brother, also is ready to relocate. Wally was a reserve forward for the Golden Eagles’ basketball team and is one of the elite high jumpers in the nation. Wally Ellenson was poised to make the U.S. Olympic Trials before suffering a hamstring injury.
The scuttlebutt is Wally Ellenson is looking to prolong his basketball career either in Europe or in the NBA’s Development League.
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http://m.journaltimes.com/sports/gery-woelfel-racine-in-running-for-bucks-d-league-team/article_cc801bfb-e734-5217-a8db-2134034b07c5.html
"Ellenson isn’t the only member of his family who has finished his athletic career at Marquette.
I’ve been told Wally Ellenson, Henry’s older brother, also is ready to relocate. Wally was a reserve forward for the Golden Eagles’ basketball team and is one of the elite high jumpers in the nation. Wally Ellenson was poised to make the U.S. Olympic Trials before suffering a hamstring injury.
The scuttlebutt is Wally Ellenson is looking to prolong his basketball career either in Europe or in the NBA’s Development League.
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The only way Wally its to play in the D league or Europe is if an NBA or European team offers him a "Wojo" (a 2 for 1 with Henry).
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Wish him all the luck in the world, but I don't see Wally making a career as a pro basketball player. He wasn't much of a college basketball player. Now, a high-flying, dunking team mascot — that he could be awesome at.
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I'd love to see Wally live his dream, but he'll be more likely to play in China than Europe or the D-League.
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Hubris
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I'd love to see Wally live his dream, but he'll be more likely to play in China than Europe or the D-League.
China may be a bit more competitive than he's capable of, frankly. I don't think he's going to find what he's looking for, and being Henry's brother won't be worth anything anymore.
Sometimes a kid just needs to be told "no" or "you're not good enough"
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Wait a minute...wasn't Ners' last screen name Ners Ellenson -- it all comes together.
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http://m.journaltimes.com/sports/gery-woelfel-racine-in-running-for-bucks-d-league-team/article_cc801bfb-e734-5217-a8db-2134034b07c5.html
"Ellenson isn’t the only member of his family who has finished his athletic career at Marquette.
I’ve been told Wally Ellenson, Henry’s older brother, also is ready to relocate. Wally was a reserve forward for the Golden Eagles’ basketball team and is one of the elite high jumpers in the nation. Wally Ellenson was poised to make the U.S. Olympic Trials before suffering a hamstring injury.
The scuttlebutt is Wally Ellenson is looking to prolong his basketball career either in Europe or in the NBA’s Development League.
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So Mr. Woeful thinks Diamond Stone will definitely go in the first round, perhaps as high as 11? Glad to see that Gery's as pluged in as he never was.
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Wally could make it in Europe, albeit not on an elite first division team. I'm sure he could get a contract offer from a second division team in a smaller country.
I live in a smaller city in Spain, and there are DII athletes playing professionally here with a livable salary and a paid apartment and car. It's not lavish by any means, but it's certainly better than many of today's graduates and a decent living doing something you love.
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Guys it's Gary Woeful.
Anytime he makes a prediction about something, the opposite will occur. For example.
http://journaltimes.com/sports/gery-woelfel-offseason-will-be-time-of-change-for-bucks/article_46fb08d9-a48b-52c1-aa8c-26f972c0722e.html
"I’ve also been told by people close to the Bucks’ situation that Kidd, once the golden boy of the organization, is now on shaky ground. His future with the franchise is clearly cloudy, especially from a coaching standpoint when some highly-regarded and vastly more experienced coaches than Kidd are available. Can you say Tom Thibodeau?"
Kidd signed a three year extension yesterday.
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So Mr. Woeful thinks Diamond Stone will definitely go in the first round, perhaps as high as 11? Glad to see that Gery's as pluged in as he never was.
Not that I am coming to Mr. Woelfuls defense, but that is not exactly what he said.
Here is what he said:
"Coming off his freshman season at Maryland, Stone also is expected to be a first-round selection, although he’ll probably be selected in the mid-to-late first round. The Bucks don’t have a pick in that area at this time, but that isn’t preventing them from garnering more information on him as well.According to a source, Stone will work out for the Bucks in Milwaukee on June 20. Like Ellenson, Stone has had workouts with several teams, his latest one being with the Orlando Magic, who have the 11th pick."
I don't think his reporting on this specific issue is off the market. i
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So Mr. Woeful thinks Diamond Stone will definitely go in the first round, perhaps as high as 11? Glad to see that Gery's as pluged in as he never was.
So 'expected' = 'definitely'? And 'Stone has had workouts with several teams, his latest one being with the Orlando Magic, who have the 11th pick.' = 'as high as 11'? I think you are taking some liberities here. It says the Bucks are picking 10, but yet you didn't take that as him going number 10? I don't see how stating what teams a guy is working out with counts as a prediction. It was just a factual comment.
Coming off his freshman season at Maryland, Stone also is expected to be a first-round selection, although he’ll probably be selected in the mid-to-late first round. The Bucks don’t have a pick in that area at this time, but that isn’t preventing them from garnering more information on him as well.
According to a source, Stone will work out for the Bucks in Milwaukee on June 20. Like Ellenson, Stone has had workouts with several teams, his latest one being with the Orlando Magic, who have the 11th pick.
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Am I missing something? Is he participating in Oregon this week? If so, what has he done so far?
Would have enjoyed seeing him up here in Eugene performing. Unfortunate that he had a down year. The championships were incredible as always in Tracktown USA. Bumped into Villanova's squad a few times around town. Representing the Big East. Oregon took second overall. Go Ducks.
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Guys it's Gary Woeful.
Anytime he makes a prediction about something, the opposite will occur. For example.
http://journaltimes.com/sports/gery-woelfel-offseason-will-be-time-of-change-for-bucks/article_46fb08d9-a48b-52c1-aa8c-26f972c0722e.html
"I’ve also been told by people close to the Bucks’ situation that Kidd, once the golden boy of the organization, is now on shaky ground. His future with the franchise is clearly cloudy, especially from a coaching standpoint when some highly-regarded and vastly more experienced coaches than Kidd are available. Can you say Tom Thibodeau?"
Kidd signed a three year extension yesterday.
Thank you
Woeful (Awful) has rarely been right on anything. In fact, Awful saying Wally is leaving is a reason to think he is staying.
Additionally, unless Wally has real hate for the track team, he is taking up a full schollie, they are only allowed 12.6 total (that can give unlimited partial rides totaling 12.6 full rides). If Wally is leaving, he can rescind his schollie and that frees up his money for late signers, or allow the team, to spread his money to other more financially strapped team-mates.
So if Wally is indeed leaving, he should give back his schollie so others can benefit from it and not be selfish.
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Would have enjoyed seeing him up here in Eugene performing. Unfortunate that he had a down year. The championships were incredible as always in Tracktown USA. Bumped into Villanova's squad a few times around town. Representing the Big East. Oregon took second overall. Go Ducks.
He competed in Eugene twice last year, NCAAs and the USATF championship (the non-Olympic year equivalent to the Olympic trials).
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He competed in Eugene twice last year, NCAAs and the USATF championship (the non-Olympic year equivalent to the Olympic trials).
If Chicos were from Eugene he would have known that to continue to add to his ruse.
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He competed in Eugene twice last year, NCAAs and the USATF championship (the non-Olympic year equivalent to the Olympic trials).
Unfortunately not this year. Would have been nice to see him in Eugene.
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Thank you
Woeful (Awful) has rarely been right on anything. In fact, Awful saying Wally is leaving is a reason to think he is staying.
Additionally, unless Wally has real hate for the track team, he is taking up a full schollie, they are only allowed 12.6 total (that can give unlimited partial rides totaling 12.6 full rides). If Wally is leaving, he can rescind his schollie and that frees up his money for late signers, or allow the team, to spread his money to other more financially strapped team-mates.
So if Wally is indeed leaving, he should give back his schollie so others can benefit from it and not be selfish.
The athletic department is covering the cost of Wally's tuition should he decide to stay, because the track team is fully committed with scholarships and Wally was technically a track walk on. I also know that he wants to continue playing basketball next year and is indeed trying to play in Europe. I get the sense he doesn't really care for high jumping all that much compared to basketball.
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The athletic department can't just "cover his cost" unless he isnt planning to compete. That would be a scholarship.
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The athletic department can't just "cover his cost" unless he isnt planning to compete. That would be a scholarship.
Thank you again. Jungle is flat wrong.
Wally is on a track scohollie and taking up 1 spot. Period.
Their are no ways around the rules like jungle suggests. Otherwise, everyone would do this and the NCAA would effectively have no schollie limits in any sport.
If they are fully committed, they will cut everyone a little to make room for him. It's a brutal world.
The 12th guy on a D1 team that did not make the tourney and was cut because his team thought he was a bad basketball player is not getting paid to play ball in Europe. That is fantasy.
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Thank you again. Jungle is flat wrong.
Wally is on a track scohollie and taking up 1 spot. Period.
Their are no ways around the rules like jungle suggests. Otherwise, everyone would do this and the NCAA would effectively have no schollie limits in any sport.
If they are fully committed, they will cut everyone a little to make room for him. It's a brutal world.
The 12th guy on a D1 team that did not make the tourney and was cut because his team thought he was a bad basketball player is not getting paid to play ball in Europe. That is fantasy.
I agree with this analysis.
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Thank you again. Jungle is flat wrong.
Wally is on a track scohollie and taking up 1 spot. Period.
Their are no ways around the rules like jungle suggests. Otherwise, everyone would do this and the NCAA would effectively have no schollie limits in any sport.
If they are fully committed, they will cut everyone a little to make room for him. It's a brutal world.
The 12th guy on a D1 team that did not make the tourney and was cut because his team thought he was a bad basketball player is not getting paid to play ball in Europe. That is fantasy.
This is correct, South America though...
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Thank you again. Jungle is flat wrong.
Wally is on a track scohollie and taking up 1 spot. Period.
Their are no ways around the rules like jungle suggests. Otherwise, everyone would do this and the NCAA would effectively have no schollie limits in any sport.
If they are fully committed, they will cut everyone a little to make room for him. It's a brutal world.
The 12th guy on a D1 team that did not make the tourney and was cut because his team thought he was a bad basketball player is not getting paid to play ball in Europe. That is fantasy.
This is straight from the horses mouth. I don't know the specifics, but I do know that it is impossible for the track team to afford a 100% full ride, theres 40+ athletes on the men's team and not even 12 scholarships because it's not a fully funded program. The money would not be coming from track. Could be from the Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund and Special Assistance Fund.
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There is a slight way around the rules, but I highly doubt Wally would qualify for it and the money wouldn't be coming from the athletic department.
If Wally was able to graduate, he could then enroll in graduate school and chose a department that provides stipends and tuition waivers in place of TA'ing (e.g. Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Math, PhD programs).
Since those stipends/waivers are provided to all accepted grad students, he would be eligible for it.
Of course that would mean he has to be majoring in one of those areas, be ready to graduate and be competitive grade/resume wise to get into those competitive programs.
Extremely unlikely, but would technically be a way around the rules.
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This is straight from the horses mouth. I don't know the specifics, but I do know that it is impossible for the track team to afford a 100% full ride, theres 40+ athletes on the men's team and not even 12 scholarships because it's not a fully funded program. The money would not be coming from track. Could be from the Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund and Special Assistance Fund.
NCAA rules allow for 12.6 men's track schollies spread among an unlimited amount of athletes (FYI, women's teams are allowed up to 18). If the track program was not fully funded (note you said it was in your previous post), sure they can dig up money to offer them him a Track schollie. As long as the total money offer to track athletes does not exceed 12.6 schollies it is allowable under the rules.
The NCAA does not care where the money comes from, just how many schollies you offer.
There is a slight way around the rules, but I highly doubt Wally would qualify for it and the money wouldn't be coming from the athletic department.
If Wally was able to graduate, he could then enroll in graduate school and chose a department that provides stipends and tuition waivers in place of TA'ing (e.g. Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Math, PhD programs).
Since those stipends/waivers are provided to all accepted grad students, he would be eligible for it.
Of course that would mean he has to be majoring in one of those areas, be ready to graduate and be competitive grade/resume wise to get into those competitive programs.
Extremely unlikely, but would technically be a way around the rules.
If Wally graduated, he could grad transfer to play basketball and be immediately eligible. He could also grad transfer to another track program and immediately be eligible.
My guess is if he graduated, he would leave given his displeasure with being cut. Since that has not been announced (yet?), assume he has not graduated.
Also, this is not a way around the rules, if you compete in a sport, and take money from the school, that is a scholarship and it counts toward your sports limit.
Again the NCAA does not care what internal justification you use to give the money, just that the total amount of money given to competing athletes does not exceed its scholarship limit for that sport.
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If Wally graduated, he could grad transfer to play basketball and be immediately eligible. He could also grad transfer to another track program and immediately be eligible.
My guess is if he graduated, he would leave given his displeasure with being cut. Since that has not been announced (yet?), assume he has not graduated.
Also, this is not a way around the rules, if you compete in a sport, and take money from the school, that is a scholarship and it counts toward your sports limit.
Again the NCAA does not care what internal justification you use to give the money, just that the total amount of money given to competing athletes does not exceed its scholarship limit for that sport.
Wally has not graduated and cannot graduate until at least December so we can lay that to rest. Not directing this at you just easiest to quote you.
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if Jungle is correct above and Wally's money is coming from ...
the Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund and Special Assistance Fund
That means that fund has $50k less for other (more needy?) students.
To be clear, I have no problem with giving that money to Wally. I do have a problem if Wally has no intention of competing in indoor or is actively looking to leave thus making MU deny $50k to other (more needy?) while Wally consider his options. In other words, he is holding this money "hostage" as part of a gambit about what he intends to do next.
Great sacrifices have been made for Wally to compete in indoor next season. I hope he appreciates and will act accordingly (meaning he is grateful and puts out a sincere effort and not pout about not being a basketball player).
I have no idea if he is pouting or seeking other alternatives, just offering a general comment.
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if Jungle is correct above and Wally's money is coming from ...
the Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund and Special Assistance Fund
That means that fund has $50k less for other (more needy?) students.
To be clear, I have no problem with giving that money to Wally. I do have a problem if Wally has no intention of competing in indoor or is actively looking to leave thus making MU deny $50k to other (more needy?) while Wally consider his options. In other words, he is holding this money "hostage" as part of a gambit about what he intends to do next.
Great sacrifices have been made for Wally to compete in indoor next season. I hope he appreciates and will act accordingly (meaning he is grateful and puts out a sincere effort and not pout about not being a basketball player).
I have no idea if he is pouting or seeking other alternatives, just offering a general comment.
Earlier in this thread there was mention of a pulled hamstring. First I heard of that. I wonder if he is going to do any more track meets this summer.
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if Jungle is correct above and Wally's money is coming from ...
the Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund and Special Assistance Fund
That means that fund has $50k less for other (more needy?) students.
To be clear, I have no problem with giving that money to Wally. I do have a problem if Wally has no intention of competing in indoor or is actively looking to leave thus making MU deny $50k to other (more needy?) while Wally consider his options. In other words, he is holding this money "hostage" as part of a gambit about what he intends to do next.
Great sacrifices have been made for Wally to compete in indoor next season. I hope he appreciates and will act accordingly (meaning he is grateful and puts out a sincere effort and not pout about not being a basketball player).
I have no idea if he is pouting or seeking other alternatives, just offering a general comment.
If he doesn't continue his collegiate track career at MU it will be over....which makes me very unsympathetic to the Ellensons since clearly the track career wasn't that critical to Wally's choices.....everything was about getting him on a basketball team so he could build his career there.
If I had any doubt about the validity of cutting him, if Wally doesn't compete on the indoor track team, all doubts will be eliminated.
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Maybe Wally should listen to this speech ... as most millennials!!
When god makes you extraordinarily talent at something, use it and see where it leads you! Don't be a selfish and myopic and only do what you love to do (ie, passion) because you might suck at it.
Mike Rowe Tells Grads Not To Follow Their Passion
06/09/2016 02:59 pm ET
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-rowe-gives-grad-advice_us_57597c03e4b0e39a28acb092
TV personality Mike Rowe has some pretty unconventional advice for recent grads: “Don’t follow your passion.”
The “Dirty Jobs” host offered what he called the “dirty truth” in a video commencement speech that urges young people to find their success by breaking the mold.
“When people follow their passion, they miss out on all kinds of opportunities they didn’t even know existed,” he cautions in a thought-provoking video for website PragerU.
Hosting the Discovery Channel show has led Rowe to meet hundreds of skilled tradesmen “who followed opportunity, not passion, and prospered as a result,” he said.
For instance, Rowe told the story of a multimillionaire septic tank cleaner who explained his success by saying, “I looked around to see where everyone else was headed, and then I went the opposite way.”
Rowe — who was an opera singer before making his TV debut — also illustrated his point with examples from his own life.
While growing up, Rowe wanted to follow in his grandfather’s footsteps and become a handyman. He invested himself in classes and workshops, but found that his talents lay elsewhere.
“Just because you’re passionate about something doesn’t mean you won’t suck at it,” he noted.
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Maybe Wally should listen to this speech ... as most millennials!!
When god makes you extraordinarily talent at something, use it and see where it leads you! Don't be a selfish and myopic and only do what you love to do (ie, passion) because you might suck at it.
Mike Rowe Tells Grads Not To Follow Their Passion
06/09/2016 02:59 pm ET
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-rowe-gives-grad-advice_us_57597c03e4b0e39a28acb092
TV personality Mike Rowe has some pretty unconventional advice for recent grads: “Don’t follow your passion.”
The “Dirty Jobs” host offered what he called the “dirty truth” in a video commencement speech that urges young people to find their success by breaking the mold.
“When people follow their passion, they miss out on all kinds of opportunities they didn’t even know existed,” he cautions in a thought-provoking video for website PragerU.
Hosting the Discovery Channel show has led Rowe to meet hundreds of skilled tradesmen “who followed opportunity, not passion, and prospered as a result,” he said.
For instance, Rowe told the story of a multimillionaire septic tank cleaner who explained his success by saying, “I looked around to see where everyone else was headed, and then I went the opposite way.”
Rowe — who was an opera singer before making his TV debut — also illustrated his point with examples from his own life.
While growing up, Rowe wanted to follow in his grandfather’s footsteps and become a handyman. He invested himself in classes and workshops, but found that his talents lay elsewhere.
“Just because you’re passionate about something doesn’t mean you won’t suck at it,” he noted.
One of the best books I ever read was "The Element" by Sir Ken Robinson. His argument was not to follow your passion or your talent, but to do the thing that you have the highest combination of passion and talent for. If you follow passion without talent you'll be broke, if you follow talent without passion, you'll be miserable. Gotta find where the two intersect.
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One of the best books I ever read was "The Element" by Sir Ken Robinson. His argument was not to follow your passion or your talent, but to do the thing that you have the highest combination of passion and talent for. If you follow passion without talent you'll be broke, if you follow talent without passion, you'll be miserable. Gotta find where the two intersect.
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