2020-21 NFL Season

[Jockey]

That's why I ended the first part of the post with "The Jags would never even consider trading 1 overall for Rodgers, though."

I missed that 

[4everwarriors]

I'm not understanding why he is "scorned" though.  He has a coach that runs a modern offense.  They have an All Pro receiver, OLT, RB, and have played in the last two NFC Championship Games.  They have offered him an extension but doesn't seem willing to listen.

He's pissed they drafted Love last year. Petty, I agree. But, his bank account is dwarfed only by his ego, hey?

[DegenerateDish]

This was inevitable, and not much of a surprise to me. Rodgers has all the leverage and timed this news to come out perfectly.

People that think Rodgers contract keeps him playing in GB this year and beyond are not understanding the full context here. There’s a reason teams kept calling the Packers this offseason, the league knows he wants out.

I don’t think he gets traded today, but I also don’t think this ends well.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

This was inevitable, and not much of a surprise to me. Rodgers has all the leverage and timed this news to come out perfectly.

People that think Rodgers contract keeps him playing in GB this year and beyond are not understanding the full context here. There’s a reason teams kept calling the Packers this offseason, the league knows he wants out.

I don’t think he gets traded today, but I also don’t think this ends well.

Yep.  I said this with Watson, but when a player of this caliber wants out, and has the leverage, there really isn't much of a choice.  (Of course Watson lost that leverage spectacularly, but I don't think that happens with Rodgers.)

[hairy worthen]

I'm not understanding why he is "scorned" though.  He has a coach that runs a modern offense.  They have an All Pro receiver, OLT, RB, and have played in the last two NFC Championship Games.  They have offered him an extension but doesn't seem willing to listen.

This.
 I dont understand either. He is signed with a monster contract for 3 more years. Why is he dictating to the packers who they should draft? Sounds like it's all about him and not the team. What leverage does Rodgers have?

[Hards Alumni]

This.
 I dont understand either. He is signed with a monster contract for 3 more years. Why is he dictating to the packers who they should draft? Sounds like it's all about him and not the team. What leverage does Rodgers have?

Himself, of course.

[cheebs09]

I’m guessing this is his way of forcing their hand to draft more offensive talent. Maybe I’m being optimistic, but he seems to put something out every offseason that he’s unhappy in hopes of more weapons or a better contract.

For a guy that wanted to be the anti-Favre, he’s following a similar script. Although, maybe that’s just what happens with elite QBs at the end of their careers.

[hairy worthen]

Himself, of course.

He is coming across like a selfish ass in my opinion. His leverage is himself, but also his cap number.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

This.
 I dont understand either. He is signed with a monster contract for 3 more years. Why is he dictating to the packers who they should draft? Sounds like it's all about him and not the team. What leverage does Rodgers have?

He has a lot of leverage.  What good is having an All Pro quarterback if he is not on the field?  He doesn't need the money.  The team will lose if he doesn't show up.  He knows that they will eventually have to see what they can get for him because otherwise he is just a non-performing asset.

The Packers are playing hardball publicly, but I'm sure they have been weighing options privately for awhile.

[Hards Alumni]

He is coming across like a selfish ass in my opinion. His leverage is himself, but also his cap number.

Oh, I don't disagree.  This may go down as one of the most shrewd moves in NFL history by a player.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

He is coming across like a selfish ass in my opinion.

Why do you think he cares?  He understands the nature of fandom.  He knows that he would get booed at Lambeau, but eventually fans will forgive.  (If he actually cares about that.) 

[DegenerateDish]

Reading the tea leaves, he can’t come back to GB. He was probably not playing in GB in 2022 (2023 for sure he wasn’t), and the lack of faith and trust is beyond broken. I trust the Packers internally had to have talked this through, but minus a massive extension, they didn’t play their options here very well (at least not yet).

The window to trade him to get 95 cents on the dollar is right now, like right right now. Once the draft starts, his 2021 trade value falls (simply because of the unknown 2022 draft positions). I just don’t know how they can reasonably get 95 cents for him. Niners lack future first rounders, other west coast options are meh with value they can send back.

[hairy worthen]

Why do you think he cares?  He understands the nature of fandom.  He knows that he would get booed at Lambeau, but eventually fans will forgive.  (If he actually cares about that.)

Well I dont think he cares, obviously. Still coming across as a selfish guy. Why? Because they drafted a qb. Btw, I'm not sure the fans will be so fast to forgive, eventually yes. Rodgers isn't as beloved as Favre was. Different scenario.

[Hards Alumni]

trey wingo
@wingoz
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40m
Also per sources: as of last night Rodgers was convinced he was headed to San Francisco. Draft day is the best...

trey wingo
@wingoz
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1h
Sources: The Packers reportedly told Aaron Rodgers they were going to trade him in the off season, then backed off. It’s been a bleep show between them ever since.  And within the last week Rodgers told the team.. trade or no trade I’m not coming back. Buckle up folks

trey wingo
@wingoz
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1h
Understand this Aaron Rodgers thing has been building for a while: Packers fired his QB coach after 2017 season.. Aaron campaigned for someone else to get the GM job, went to Guetenkuenst. Then they trade BACK into the 1st round last year to take his successor.

[Jockey]

This.
 I dont understand either. He is signed with a monster contract for 3 more years. Why is he dictating to the packers who they should draft? Sounds like it's all about him and not the team. What leverage does Rodgers have?

Who did he tell them to draft?

[hairy worthen]

Who did he tell them to draft?

Maybe he told them someone in specific maybe not, how would I know. It is well reported that he didnt like the Jordan Love pick and it is still a problem to the point now that he wants out. That is indirectly dictating to the team what type of players to draft and how to run the team. That's not his job.

[Jockey]

trey wingo
@wingoz

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1h
Understand this Aaron Rodgers thing has been building for a while: Packers fired his QB coach after 2017 season.. Aaron campaigned for someone else to get the GM job, went to Guetenkuenst. Then they trade BACK into the 1st round last year to take his successor.

As I said earlier, this is more about Gutey than Rodgers.

If Gutey follows through, GB will be a bottom feeder and Gutey will be gone in 2 years after destroying one of the NFL’s greatest franchises.

[hairy worthen]

As I said earlier, this is more about Gutey than Rodgers.

If Gutey follows through, GB will be a bottom feeder and Gutey will be gone in 2 years after destroying one of the NFL’s greatest franchises.

I disagree. Players aren't bigger than the team and shouldn't force the hand of the gm. Gutey has to be accountable to himself and the organization, he doesn't work for Aaron Rodgers.

The team didnt back down for Favre and it worked out ok.

[Goose]

hairy

Rodgers always appeared to be a "me" first guy and took far too much pride in "being the smartest guy in the room" IMO. Great, great QB with limited success compared to the talent he brought to the field. Granted, I am admittedly a Favre guy for life, but I definitely learned to appreciate Rodgers high level of talent. Truthfully, I will remember him as guy that tried too hard to be the guy.

All that said, I definitely am not looking forward to return the 1970's-80's Packers. We have been spoiled and I enjoyed every minute of it, especially the Favre era.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

trey wingo
@wingoz
·
40m
Also per sources: as of last night Rodgers was convinced he was headed to San Francisco. Draft day is the best...

trey wingo
@wingoz
·
1h
Sources: The Packers reportedly told Aaron Rodgers they were going to trade him in the off season, then backed off. It’s been a bleep show between them ever since.  And within the last week Rodgers told the team.. trade or no trade I’m not coming back. Buckle up folks

trey wingo
@wingoz
·
1h
Understand this Aaron Rodgers thing has been building for a while: Packers fired his QB coach after 2017 season.. Aaron campaigned for someone else to get the GM job, went to Guetenkuenst. Then they trade BACK into the 1st round last year to take his successor.

Silverstein already has tweeted against the “Packers told Rodgers they would trade him” talk.

[hairy worthen]

hairy

Rodgers always appeared to be a "me" first guy and took far too much pride in "being the smartest guy in the room" IMO. Great, great QB with limited success compared to the talent he brought to the field. Granted, I am admittedly a Favre guy for life, but I definitely learned to appreciate Rodgers high level of talent. Truthfully, I will remember him as guy that tried too hard to be the guy.

All that said, I definitely am not looking forward to return the 1970's-80's Packers. We have been spoiled and I enjoyed every minute of it, especially the Favre era.

Agreed, except I dont see the team returning to 70-80s level of futility. The packers are very talented other than Rodgers and the front office structure is light years better now.

Rodgers will be 38 next year, he isn't playing forever. The Packers shouldn't sell out their future to placate this guy. The ironic and hypocritical thing is Rodgers was drafted to replace a legend and hall of famer,  now he is bent because it happened again with him?
Just a hunch but I think another driving factor for Rodgers is playing in bay area.

[Jockey]

hairy

Rodgers always appeared to be a "me" first guy and took far too much pride in "being the smartest guy in the room" IMO. Great, great QB with limited success compared to the talent he brought to the field. Granted, I am admittedly a Favre guy for life, but I definitely learned to appreciate Rodgers high level of talent. Truthfully, I will remember him as guy that tried too hard to be the guy.

All that said, I definitely am not looking forward to return the 1970's-80's Packers. We have been spoiled and I enjoyed every minute of it, especially the Favre era.

Goose,

Do you really think Rodgers is any more spoiled than Brady? Brady has been very open about making player recommendations to his teams.

[JWags85]

Goose,

Do you really think Rodgers is any more spoiled than Brady? Brady has been very open about making player recommendations to his teams.

I HATE Brady and have always very much respected Rodgers more as a player, but I think so.  Brady played under BB his entire career and was largely tied to him. Rodgers threw McCarthy under the bus plenty of times. 

Rodgers has always been the king of “oh my gosh look how hurt I am” only to move just fine on the next series to look like a gritty hero.  Rodgers is a winner, but his narrative, his ego, his stats/perception has always been just as important as team success (eg: taking sacks to not screw up his completion percentage).  Everything about his off the field image and brand and perception has always been closely managed and curated.

[Uncle Rico]

I HATE Brady and have always very much respected Rodgers more as a player, but I think so.  Brady played under BB his entire career and was largely tied to him. Rodgers threw McCarthy under the bus plenty of times. 

Rodgers has always been the king of “oh my gosh look how hurt I am” only to move just fine on the next series to look like a gritty hero.  Rodgers is a winner, but his narrative, his ego, his stats/perception has always been just as important as team success (eg: taking sacks to not screw up his completion percentage).  Everything about his off the field image and brand and perception has always been closely managed and curated.

Rodgers is a phony but so was Favre.

[4everwarriors]

Trade his ass for Trevor Lawrence and a few other picks and the Pack is good. Love can be the back-up, hey?