2020-21 NFL Season

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Looks like MU82 has got his new QB ... Sam Darnold to the Panthers for 2nd and 4th round picks in 2022 and a 6th round pick in 2021.

This has a been a frequent discussion on New York sports talk radio for the last 3 months.

The consensus seems to be that Sam was ruined by two horrible coaching regimes of the Jets.  Neither knew what the hell they were doing with him.  He has top flight talent and needs a reset somewhere else with a good coach so he can flourish. 

Jets have seem set on Zach Wilson since the Saleh hire. 

[Pakuni]

All in all, I'm open-minded about this. Rhule has been a pretty good judge of talent so far, and if he likes Darnold, I'm gonna be optimistic about it, too.

Rhule gave Tedy Bridgewater $33 million guaranteed 12 months ago, and now is trading three draft picks for his replacement ... a replacement who's going to be owed $18 million next year or he's a one-year rental.
So, how much do you really trust his judgement?

[MU82]

Rhule gave Tedy Bridgewater $33 million guaranteed 12 months ago, and now is trading three draft picks for his replacement ... a replacement who's going to be owed $18 million next year or he's a one-year rental.
So, how much do you really trust his judgement?

Well, as I said, I’m open minded and I’m an optimist.

Bridgewater was pretty good last season before he got hurt.

We’ll see how it works out.

[rocket surgeon]

Texans may be worried that Watsons troubles may end up in his suspension . They may pick up Alex Smith as insurance
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Deshaun-Watson-investigation-Houston-Texas-could-sign-Alex-Smith-Washington-Football-Team-163552874/

 has any pro player done the huber thing?

[JWags85]

The Watson case continues to get more and more complex and wild. Character witnesses coming forward by name to support Watson is what I believe forced Buzzbee’s hand to bring forth the public testimony of the masseuse who had the presser yesterday. 

Heard a good breakdown on the radio about how though the cases/plaintiffs are piling up, the evidence is still a bit in the hearsay realm and not super strong.  Also, interesting comments on how Buzzbee seems to be angling to go to law enforcement authorities above the state/local level, but still not sure if that’s a bluff or not.  Additionally, kind of bizarre how he’s seemingly choosing to stage this in the court of public opinion instead of legal channels.

Best related tweet I saw today was “At this point, Watson is either Bill Cosby...or Rubin Carter. No middle ground anymore”

[forgetful]

The Watson case continues to get more and more complex and wild. Character witnesses coming forward by name to support Watson is what I believe forced Buzzbee’s hand to bring forth the public testimony of the masseuse who had the presser yesterday. 

Heard a good breakdown on the radio about how though the cases/plaintiffs are piling up, the evidence is still a bit in the hearsay realm and not super strong.  Also, interesting comments on how Buzzbee seems to be angling to go to law enforcement authorities above the state/local level, but still not sure if that’s a bluff or not.  Additionally, kind of bizarre how he’s seemingly choosing to stage this in the court of public opinion instead of legal channels.

Best related tweet I saw today was “At this point, Watson is either Bill Cosby...or Rubin Carter. No middle ground anymore”

Buzzbee really seems to be pushing to publicly embarrass Watson to a point where he might decide to just pay a big settlement to get this out of the public eye. That type of approach makes it look like a sham of a case.

Really a disservice to so many people out there that have been victims, and possibly even his clients (depending on evidence). Victims need to go to police, need to have their voice heard in court, and the perpetrators held accountable. Pushing this as a public narrative is a disservice to everyone involved except for the lawyer picking up a paycheck.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Buzzbee really seems to be pushing to publicly embarrass Watson to a point where he might decide to just pay a big settlement to get this out of the public eye. That type of approach makes it look like a sham of a case.

Really a disservice to so many people out there that have been victims, and possibly even his clients (depending on evidence). Victims need to go to police, need to have their voice heard in court, and the perpetrators held accountable. Pushing this as a public narrative is a disservice to everyone involved except for the lawyer picking up a paycheck.

Sexual assault victims often use civil courts in high profile cases because the threshold of evidence is lower than in criminal courts.  (As it should be.)  To claim that this route does a "disservice" to other alleged victims shows that you don't understand the realities of trying to prove criminal assault took place.  This is probably their best shot at justice.

[forgetful]

Sexual assault victims often use civil courts in high profile cases because the threshold of evidence is lower than in criminal courts.  (As it should be.)  To claim that this route does a "disservice" to other alleged victims shows that you don't understand the realities of trying to prove criminal assault took place.  This is probably their best shot at justice.

I'm not talking about trying this in civil courts. I support that. My criticism is in Buzzbee trying to push the story, and have the victims speaking out in public. That is designed to put a public pressure campaign on Watson to settle out of court to stop the constant press.

When I said have their voice heard in court, I meant civil or criminal. Whichever is chosen, they should still speak to police, who may take on their own criminal investigations. Trying something in civil court is different than in the court of public opinion, the latter does a disservice to victims.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'm not talking about trying this in civil courts. I support that. My criticism is in Buzzbee trying to push the story, and have the victims speaking out in public. That is designed to put a public pressure campaign on Watson to settle out of court to stop the constant press.

When I said have their voice heard in court, I meant civil or criminal. Whichever is chosen, they should still speak to police, who may take on their own criminal investigations. Trying something in civil court is different than in the court of public opinion, the latter does a disservice to victims.

OK I get that.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Buzzbee really seems to be pushing to publicly embarrass Watson to a point where he might decide to just pay a big settlement to get this out of the public eye. That type of approach makes it look like a sham of a case.

Really a disservice to so many people out there that have been victims, and possibly even his clients (depending on evidence). Victims need to go to police, need to have their voice heard in court, and the perpetrators held accountable. Pushing this as a public narrative is a disservice to everyone involved except for the lawyer picking up a paycheck.

Victims don't need to go to police or need to go to court. They don't need to do anything. Provided the allegations are true, I am for victims seeking justice (within the confines of the law) in whatever way helps them the most. I don't think it does a disservice to any law abiding citizen.

[Pakuni]

Why is it only in sexual assault/harassment cases do we talk about victims needing to behave in a particular way, and if they don't, they're harming other victims?

 

[MU82]

I could have put this in the mass shooting thread, but the suspect here is a former NFL player, so ...

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article250520194.html?

Former NFL player Phillip Adams, who had a number of injuries during his journeyman’s career in the league, is at the center of a mass shooting case in South Carolina.

He was identified as the suspect who shot six people in York County Wednesday, killing five, before later killing himself, sources told The Herald of Rock Hill.

[jficke13]

horrifying

[JWags85]

The NFL wants you to know there is no way, none at all, this had ANYTHING to do with CTE.  Not from someone who got 2 concussions within 3 weeks.  Please move along.

Yes that may be jumping to conclusions, but smoke and fire, etc...

[MU82]

The NFL wants you to know there is no way, none at all, this had ANYTHING to do with CTE.  Not from someone who got 2 concussions within 3 weeks.  Please move along.

Yes that may be jumping to conclusions, but smoke and fire, etc...

Yep. Nothing to see here ...

[Pakuni]

The NFL wants you to know there is no way, none at all, this had ANYTHING to do with CTE.  Not from someone who got 2 concussions within 3 weeks.  Please move along.

Yes that may be jumping to conclusions, but smoke and fire, etc...

"Our findings suggest homicidal violence among NFL players is rare, as NFL players have substantially lower rates of dying and being arrested as a consequence of homicidal violence compared to the general US population."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6490588/

[Pakuni]

Is the NFL trying to be (gasp!) fun?

@brgridiron
The NFL is expected to pass a rule that will relax jersey number restrictions, per @peter_king

— QB: 1-19
— WR: 1-49, 80-89
— RB: 1-49, 80-89
— TE: 1-49, 80-89
— DB: 1-49
— LB: 1-59, 90-99
— OL: 50-79
— DL: 50-79, 90-99

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Is the NFL trying to be (gasp!) fun?

@brgridiron
The NFL is expected to pass a rule that will relax jersey number restrictions, per @peter_king

— QB: 1-19
— WR: 1-49, 80-89
— RB: 1-49, 80-89
— TE: 1-49, 80-89
— DB: 1-49
— LB: 1-59, 90-99
— OL: 50-79
— DL: 50-79, 90-99

So the college numbering system.  I'm cool with that.

[Pakuni]

So the college numbering system.  I'm cool with that.

My only complaint is not allowing DLs to wear lower numbers like in college, i.e. Chase Young #2 or Derrick Brown #5.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Is the NFL trying to be (gasp!) fun?

@brgridiron
The NFL is expected to pass a rule that will relax jersey number restrictions, per @peter_king

— QB: 1-19
— WR: 1-49, 80-89
— RB: 1-49, 80-89
— TE: 1-49, 80-89
— DB: 1-49
— LB: 1-59, 90-99
— OL: 50-79
— DL: 50-79, 90-99

Kickers and Punters restricted to 0 and 00?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My only complaint is not allowing DLs to wear lower numbers like in college, i.e. Chase Young #2 or Derrick Brown #5.

I think those are guys classified as OLBs.

[Pakuni]

I think those are guys classified as OLBs.

Brown is a 325-pound DT.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yeah and college football numbering rules are only strong recommendations.  Not requirements.  My bad.

[naginiF]

Is the NFL trying to be (gasp!) fun?

@brgridiron
The NFL is expected to pass a rule that will relax jersey number restrictions, per @peter_king

— QB: 1-19
— WR: 1-49, 80-89
— RB: 1-49, 80-89
— TE: 1-49, 80-89
— DB: 1-49
— LB: 1-59, 90-99
— OL: 50-79
— DL: 50-79, 90-99

Flash forward 4 months after huge turnover in numbers drives people to nfl.com to the "NFL jersey sales are at a 10 year high. Huge surge in popularity for the sport" article

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Hate the college number system.

NFL move could be tied to the numbers of numbers in the 50s and 90s retired.  I know the Bears have issues with uniform numbers.