2020-21 NFL Season

[forgetful]

I’ll wait on the final Jones contract details, but I have a very difficult time understanding why they just didn’t franchise him. His cap hit is going to have to be $6 mil or below in 2021 for this to make sense. Packers are going to end up eating Jones dead money eventually while trying to figure out what to pay Dillon.

My guess is Jones gets $19 million in cash in 2021, $6 mil cap hit this year, next year a $14 mil cap hit. Voidable years will have a dead money conversion of $10 million.

The cap hit for this signing will likely be lower than the franchise tag cap number. It also puts him under contract at below market rate for 4-years.

If they franchise him, the chance of him staying longer term is near zero. It also shows other players that GB will not trap you with a franchise tag.

Lots of wins with this deal, I don't see many negatives.

[DegenerateDish]

The cap hit for this signing will likely be lower than the franchise tag cap number. It also puts him under contract at below market rate for 4-years.

If they franchise him, the chance of him staying longer term is near zero. It also shows other players that GB will not trap you with a franchise tag.

Lots of wins with this deal, I don't see many negatives.

Yes, that’s why I targeted $6 mil in 2021. Any number above that would make no sense.

The negative is Green Bay taking on the risk of injury or lack of performance in year 2. Franchise tag means no risk and you franchise him again in 22 when he’ll be 28.

Oh, also...

THEY DRATED A RUNNING BACK IN THE 2ND ROUND.

[forgetful]

Yes, that’s why I targeted $6 mil in 2021. Any number above that would make no sense.

The negative is Green Bay taking on the risk of injury or lack of performance in year 2. Franchise tag means no risk and you franchise him again in 22 when he’ll be 28.

Oh, also...

THEY DRATED A RUNNING BACK IN THE 2ND ROUND.

Yes, the injury risk is always a potential problem. But I like the idea of rewarding players. I think long-term that type of treatment can go a long way.

On the drafted running back. GB needs that power-back compliment. I think the tandem of Jones and Dillon could be brilliant. We'll see, and I'm far from an NFL expert, but I like the possibilities.

The biggest downside I see is that unless they get really creative cap wise, this doesn't really allow them to bring in an impact WR. Possibly sign long term deals for Rodgers, Z'darius, and Adams. Then go sign Golladay. Could be a pretty solid team in that case.

[Jockey]

Yes, that’s why I targeted $6 mil in 2021. Any number above that would make no sense.

The negative is Green Bay taking on the risk of injury or lack of performance in year 2. Franchise tag means no risk and you franchise him again in 22 when he’ll be 28.

Oh, also...

THEY DRATED A RUNNING BACK IN THE 2ND ROUND.

Which is great news. Both guys should be in the 15-17 touches per game range.

[hairy worthen]

Tagging a player may have saved them some money, but now the Packers have two really good backs that compliment each other tied up for a few years. Tagging a player doesn't always work out well for the team. Lets see how well it works out for the Bears and Robinson. I see that as a distraction coming soon. Remarkably the Packers are going to be keeping nearly everyone save Lindsley after being over 30 million over the cap. Many other teams can't say the same.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yes, the injury risk is always a potential problem. But I like the idea of rewarding players. I think long-term that type of treatment can go a long way.

On the drafted running back. GB needs that power-back compliment. I think the tandem of Jones and Dillon could be brilliant. We'll see, and I'm far from an NFL expert, but I like the possibilities.

The biggest downside I see is that unless they get really creative cap wise, this doesn't really allow them to bring in an impact WR. Possibly sign long term deals for Rodgers, Z'darius, and Adams. Then go sign Golladay. Could be a pretty solid team in that case.

Do the Packers really need an impact receiver?  I think they need more work on the defensive side of the ball.  It would be nice to have an ILB with some speed.

[hairy worthen]

Do the Packers really need an impact receiver?  I think they need more work on the defensive side of the ball.  It would be nice to have an ILB with some speed.

Hopefully they address the defense now. I think they are ok at receiver. The bigger need is at cornerback, d line and middle linebacker.

[Herman Cain]

Aaron Jones averaged 5.5 yards per carry last year. He is an effective receiver and he wants to be in Green Bay. I think this is a good move all the way around.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I'm split on the Jones signing. On one hand, I don't like tying up lots if cap space in the RB position.

On the other hand, Jones is a playmaker and letting him go would have created a hole on offense.

I really want to see the full contract structure before making a final judgment.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Hopefully they address the defense now. I think they are ok at receiver. The bigger need is at cornerback, d line and middle linebacker.

Not that he's a world beater but Devin Funchess opted out last year, so there's another body for the receiving corps.

[CreightonWarrior]

Not surprising Jamaal Williams headed to Free Agency.

[CreightonWarrior]

Corey Linsley headed to the Chargers.

[DegenerateDish]

Anytime you can let arguably the best center in football walk, while paying a 27 year old RB, nearly the same dollars as said all pro center in year 1, after you draft a RB in the second round the year before...ya gotta do it.

Comical.

[🏀]

Anytime you can let arguably the best center in football walk, while paying a 27 year old RB, nearly the same dollars as said all pro center in year 1, after you draft a RB in the second round the year before...ya gotta do it.

Comical.

Agreed. This was a poor move. Linsley > Jones

[withoutbias]

You’re hung up on this drafting a RB thing. It’s a total non issue. The Packers had 2 or more backs on the field more than any team in the NFL last season. They were certainly not going to be going into the season with Dillon as the only back with snaps on the Packers. So either they were drafting a back high after taking a back high last year, or they were bringing back a back after drafting a back high last year. And they’re very different backs. AJ is incredibly dynamic, on an offense with very few playmakers.

You can replace a center very easily, as the Packers showed when Linsley went out.

[Hards Alumni]

Anytime you can let arguably the best center in football walk, while paying a 27 year old RB, nearly the same dollars as said all pro center in year 1, after you draft a RB in the second round the year before...ya gotta do it.

Comical.

Anyone who has followed the Packers for the last year knew Linsley was gone.  They could never afford him.  I'm not defending the Jones contract, because I agree.  Never pay running backs.  There are bigger needs in GB than OL... and locking up a center for 5 years 62.5 mil.... I hope that the Chargers enjoy him.  Spend money on OTs, not centers.

But, for the record.  I'm FULLY on board with the fire Gute crowd.  I'd like to spearhead that operation.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yeah I’m not worried about Linsley at all. Jones was way more valuable but yeah that contract...

But no way they are going to dish out big bucks for a center. They never have.

[Hards Alumni]

Agreed. This was a poor move. Linsley > Jones

Linsley was never an option.  It was never and either or thing.

[Herman Cain]

The team has a salary cap and they have to fit players into that into a relative value matrix . This incorporates talent and positional need .

My view is Aaron Jones was worth the money  . The Packers have a very solid backfield with one explosive guy and one grind it out guy. Packers need good running backs for a credible play action game.

Linemen can be found. The premium offensive line position is left tackle for which the Packers are paying up well.

The only problem the Packers had last year was their coach making a terrible play call on fourth and goal with the game on the line versus Tampa Bay

[Jockey]

You’re hung up on this drafting a RB thing. It’s a total non issue. The Packers had 2 or more backs on the field more than any team in the NFL last season. They were certainly not going to be going into the season with Dillon as the only back with snaps on the Packers. So either they were drafting a back high after taking a back high last year, or they were bringing back a back after drafting a back high last year. And they’re very different backs. AJ is incredibly dynamic, on an offense with very few playmakers.

You can replace a center very easily, as the Packers showed when Linsley went out.

Agreed. They don't want Jones as a 25 touches per game guy. They want it closer to 15-17. Having a good 2nd back is necessary for LaFluer's offense.

[hairy worthen]

Anytime you can let arguably the best center in football walk, while paying a 27 year old RB, nearly the same dollars as said all pro center in year 1, after you draft a RB in the second round the year before...ya gotta do it.

Comical.

Silly comment. You may not agree with it, but it is not as slam dunk and “comical” as you make it.  Linsley is approaching the wrong side of 30 and already has missed games with back issues. They have players on the roster that can replace Linsley now. Drafting a running back in the second last year has nothing to do with it. Le Fleur’s offense is based on running the ball. They need at least two good backs and Jones catches passes out of the back field and occasionally lines up wide.

You could make an argument either way, but its not like it’s clear cut as you make it out to be. 

[BM1090]

Dalton to the Bears for 10 million.

[DegenerateDish]

Outside of him being Andy Dalton...THEY COULD HAVE SIGNED HIM A YEAR AGO...and not forfeited a 4th round pick for Foles.

Dumb/Stupid/Idiotic...I give up.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Hold on....$10 million?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Outside of him being Andy Dalton...THEY COULD HAVE SIGNED HIM A YEAR AGO...and not forfeited a 4th round pick for Foles.

Dumb/Stupid/Idiotic...I give up.

The Bears continue to make being a Bears fan increasingly difficult.