Kolek planning to go pro
There is an incentive, keep their very highly paid job. Again, it’s not some fluffing of Musk to state that many Twitter employees were paid exceptional well for years working for a company that was utterly failing as a business. Now being asked to make sacrifices and work extra hard/out of the box/different than they did for the last few years to keep that job, that’s not an absurd ask.Musk’s plan and methods have left a lot to desire, but that doesn’t have to also mean that there wasn’t a bunch of major issues, business and culture wise, at that company that needed to change. Rebelling against Musk the megalomaniac has a lot of people completely forgetting what a mess Twitter was forever and suddenly making these employees out to be selfless geniuses who were killing it before the new mean boss.
He's creating a toxic culture. Employees that are good at what they do can and will go elsewhere. This is a recipe destined to retain those who can't find another job, a means to retain the employees you actually want to get rid of.
I actually think there will be a number of younger, talented people that will stick it out because it is a challenge that will look good on a resume. And could be financially rewarding. We will see.
You clearly don’t know younger people. They don’t like to work, they only want handouts and are over reliant on technology.
ForgetfulIt’s clear you know much more about running a business than Musk. Why not start one and become the world’s richest man?
The culture is already toxic and people are clearly unhappy. The owner of the business is giving an off-ramp to people who don't want to be a part of it any longer, and is laying out the expectations for those who remain. Musk has a reputation for being demanding, but Tesla is supposed to be a good place to work.Again, I can actually see this improving the culture over time if the people who don't like what Musk is doing just leave.
So, every extremely rich person is perfect and therefore can't be criticized?
The problem is, as someone else said, he is incenting the talented people to leave and the poor and mediocre to stick around. The only thing working in Musk's favor is that tech darlings are currently shedding jobs, so it isn't quite as easy to job hop in the industry as it was even just 6 months ago. Nonetheless, the best people are going to have options, the poor ones are going to be anchored to Twitter, making the culture even more challenging and contributing little to actually remaking the company.
How is he incenting the talented people to leave? Talented people don't like to work hard?And talented people ALWAYS have options - they don't have to rely on a three month severance to find their next gig.
Talented people with options won't stick around if the inducement to do so is "work more and more intensely for the same pay in this toxic culture I'm building or you're fired" because they view it as a "challenge."The only people who remain under such circumstances are the ones without options.Yes, talented people always have options. Which is why making your business the least appealing option doesn't seem to be a solid strategy.But what do we know? We're not Elon Musk.
It'd be hard since forgetful won't get to start with enormous wealth.Stop licking billionaire's boots.It's okay to criticize people who are being stupid, and Musk certainly is.
That being said, I do find it really amusing that people are acting like, that particular app tech knowledge aside, he doesn't have a track record of pushing and getting the most out of engineering and tech talent and running businesses that require overhauls or completely new ways of doing things. He needs consiglieres experienced in the space to convert his overall vision or desires into actionable steps within the ways of working for a company like this.And also, suddenly people are painting Twitter, the company, as some high functioning and efficient utopia that suddenly Musk has cruelly ruined, which is hilarious in and of itself.
How is he incenting the talented people to leave? Talented people don't like to work hard?
By being a total free speech advocate who will not allow free speech to the talented people in his own company?
The appeal to authority argument here continues to get weaker by the day, but regardless, has anyone actually said or implied either of these things?Seems to me that the criticism of Musk here and elsewhere has centered entirely around his handling of Twitter. No one is suggesting he hasn't been tremendously successful with some of his other ventures. (Nor, should I note, is anyone raising some of his notable failures).And I can't recall a single post here - or story I've read online - suggesting Twitter was a high-functioning and efficient anything.
I'm not saying "F them all" but 3 month severance to leave a company that you've contributed to floundering for years isn't some horror story.
I guess alot of the Musk bashing is the broad brush recency bias that people are all too fond of these days. You're only as good as your recent efforts. Coaches with a decade of success are morons who have no clue what they are doing during a bad season. Politicians are heroes one month, villains the next. Etc...
Couple devils advocate points...Even before Musk, there was an opinion, amongst Wall St analysts and others, that Twitter had a lot of very well compensated people who were objectively bad at their jobs, that job being creating and running operations for a profitable company. Twitter was always among the better paying companies in the space despite not having results like others. So people were being overpaid for underperformance for years, so I don't know if requiring above and beyond performance befitting of their roles and compensation is expecting more work for less pay. If you're in a normal salaried 9 to 5 making X but only working 20 hours a week, taking 2 hour lunches and new management comes in and says "this company is messed up, everyone is working 40 hours a week, 30 min lunch max till we fix this". I don't view that as being toxic-ly asked to work more for the same pay. Of course anyone who doesn't like it, in either scenario is more than welcome to leave and I could understand why they would. If the grass is truly greener, remains to be seen.The other point is that Ive seen a TON of "I love Twitter. I love the work. I love the company/product/my job" posts from current or former employees. Could be a stress test from Musk to see how many people actually do versus just loving the cushy culture at "fun" tech company. Again, there may be better ways to go about it, but you do need to figure out at some point what you really have talent and buy-in wise when the rubber meets the road.Ive criticized Musk plenty in here and I don't think he has much of a clue when it comes to actual operational strategy for an app like this. Not all tech companies are created equal. Just like incredibly successful and intelligent business people failing miserably when buying a sports franchise or diversifying their brand into a space they know NOTHING about.That being said, I do find it really amusing that people are acting like, that particular app tech knowledge aside, he doesn't have a track record of pushing and getting the most out of engineering and tech talent and running businesses that require overhauls or completely new ways of doing things. He needs consiglieres experienced in the space to convert his overall vision or desires into actionable steps within the ways of working for a company like this.And also, suddenly people are painting Twitter, the company, as some high functioning and efficient utopia that suddenly Musk has cruelly ruined, which is hilarious in and of itself.
Someone doesn't understand how free speech works.