Another 2014-2015 thread

[Blackhat]

Melvin and Seid should have been out a year ago.   

[NotAnAlum]

You are both chasing fool's gold.

I'm really thinking (and hoping) that they are right.  Our weakness at PG is creating a domino effect.  I think that if Buzz had the freshman version of Junior C. or Dominic J. they would be starting and playing 25+ mins and Derrick would be backing up.  Dawson simply isn’t any better at running the point for us and his little bit of outside shooting doesn’t make up for his unforced errors and weaker defense.  Then if you are going to have Derrick on the floor you need Jake on the floor because as Buzz says they have to guard him out at the 3.  Neither JJ or Burton is enough of a threat to draw the defense beyond the 3 pt line.  If Cohen or Hill could consistantly hit the 3 they’d be playing in Jake’s role.   Also if your PG can shoot the 3 then you can afford to have more of a slasher at the 2.  Assuming Mayo is on the team next year that is your 3rd guard.  Since the only returning front line player is Taylor and maybe Juan Buzz almost has to play freshman/transfers at the 4 & 5.
I beleive 3 of the top guys in minutes next year will be guys who didn't play at all or played very little this year.   It almost has to happen.

[brandx]

I agree with your sentiment that Buzz views the starters differently.  Maybe this is semantical, but if DuWil is playing 30 minutes but not starting is that different than starting?  I'll adjust my statement, DuWil will have more minutes at the 1 than DeWil by conference play next season.

That's why I really think we are saying the same thing, but arguing about it anyway. I agree with your statement that Duane will play more minutes.

But as the senior leaders, I think we will see Derrick and Juan start all season next year.

[mu03eng]

That's why I really think we are saying the same thing, but arguing about it anyway. I agree with your statement that Duane will play more minutes.

But as the senior leaders, I think we will see Derrick and Juan start all season next year.

Certainly a possibility and not worth debating(so many other more interesting things to debate around here  ) but I wouldn't be surprised if Derrick isn't starting at some point next season.

[tower912]

IF Derrick is the starter...... more that likely, his running mates will be Mayo and one of the following....Hill, DuWilson, JJJ, Deonte at the 3, as well as Juan, STjr, Fischer up front....in other words, there is going to be a lot more youth, a lot more explosiveness.    A steadying hand may be necessary.   

[jesmu84]

I agree with your sentiment that Buzz views the starters differently.  Maybe this is semantical, but if DuWil is playing 30 minutes but not starting is that different than starting?  I'll adjust my statement, DuWil will have more minutes at the 1 than DeWil by conference play next season.

If that happens, will Ners still be saying that Dawson deserves 30/game? You'd have to assume at that point Dawson isn't playing much more than he is now, so he'd have to have the same attitude, right?

[mu03eng]

If that happens, will Ners still be saying that Dawson deserves 30/game? You'd have to assume at that point Dawson isn't playing much more than he is now, so he'd have to have the same attitude, right?

One would think

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Why not put your best line-up on the floor to start the game? By having your "go-to" starting line-up, which isn't your best, you really reduce the likelihood of starting fast and grabbing the reins from the get-go so to speak. I realize there is a lot of ebb and flow to games, but I've seen games won or lost in the first 4 minutes (Buzz usually hangs with the starters until the first TV timeout), when a team comes out on an absolute tear, i.e. Zona against Colorado in a hostile environment on Saturday night. Any insights into the strategy behind Buzz's starting line-ups?

It's not a common strategy but it has been used by some of the greats. Phil Jackson used to start Kobe on the bench to try and catch teams off guard.

[tower912]

Going into the way back machine....the Lakers would start Kurt Rambis and bring Mychal Thompson off of the bench.    The 76'ers started Marc Iavaroni over Bobby Jones.   Ricky Pierce with the Bucks.  Starting doesn't matter nearly as much as minutes.   

[bilsu]

No one would be asking for Dawson to play more, if Duane Wilson had not got hurt. You also have to consider that both Duane and Dawson can play shooting guard. Derrick can only play point. The Wilson's will probably play a similar amount of time, but all of Derrick's time will be a the point.

[mileskishnish72]

Nobody commenting on Malek?

[Silkk the Shaka]

You are both chasing fool's gold.

Sugar, I know that odds are on your side on this one. I would not bet on him getting 25+ mpg. However, I think a reasonable estimate is somewhere between Burton and Blue/Mayo (12 mpg on the low side, 20 mpg on the high side). My reaoning being that he has the physical tools like Burton for his position from day 1, he reportedly has the defensive tenacity like freshman Blue (which Buzz clearly rewards), and the creative scoring skills of freshman Mayo. Combine all that with the fact that there will be ~100 mpg graduating, and I think the 12-20 mpg band is a failry safe bet.

However, if he suprises on the upside, he could play 25 mpg or more. Would I bet on it or even expect it? No, but it's not exactly out of the realm of possibility. I'll put it like this since I know you'll appreciate it. My best bet would be 16 mpg for him next year. I'm 68% confident that he'd play between 12 & 20 mpg, and 95% confident that he'd play between 8 & 24 mpg. Meaning I think there's a 2.5% chance he'll get 25+ mpg, but I wouldn't be totally shocked if it happened either. Is that still fool's gold?

[willie warrior]

No one would be asking for Dawson to play more, if Duane Wilson had not got hurt. You also have to consider that both Duane and Dawson can play shooting guard. Derrick can only play point. The Wilson's will probably play a similar amount of time, but all of Derrick's time will be a the point.

Two famous quotes sum it all up:
Kevin O'neil doing play analysis: MU is playing 4 on 5 with that PG out there
MU Fan's 12 year old daughter (who knows nothing about basketball): "Daddy. why isn't anybody guarding #12?"

[Henry Sugar]

However, if he suprises on the upside, he could play 25 mpg or more. Would I bet on it or even expect it? No, but it's not exactly out of the realm of possibility. I'll put it like this since I know you'll appreciate it. My best bet would be 16 mpg for him next year. I'm 68% confident that he'd play between 12 & 20 mpg, and 95% confident that he'd play between 8 & 24 mpg. Meaning I think there's a 2.5% chance he'll get 25+ mpg, but I wouldn't be totally shocked if it happened either. Is that still fool's gold?

Now you are speaking my language!

My 95% confidence interval is somewhere between 8-20 mpg, personally

[Hards Alumni]

Now you are speaking my language!

My 95% confidence interval is somewhere between 8-20 mpg, personally

I'm going to say with 100% confidence that he plays somewhere between 0-40 mpg!

[brandx]

I'm going to say with 100% confidence that he plays somewhere between 0-40 mpg!

I'm only about 98.75% confident on your prediction. He 'might' actually play 0 or 40 minutes.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Now you are speaking my language!

My 95% confidence interval is somewhere between 8-20 mpg, personally

[Archies Bat]

To spice the topic up even more, 247 Crystal Ball has three new MU predictions for Jarvis Garret within the last day, two of which switched their predictions from others to MU.

[oldwarrior81]

It's not a common strategy but it has been used by some of the greats. Phil Jackson used to start Kobe on the bench to try and catch teams off guard.

Kobe came off the bench for the first 4 games that Phil Jackson coached the Lakers in 1999.  After that Bryant started 1078 of 1079 games over the 12 seasons Jackson coached the Lakers.

[mu03eng]

Kobe came off the bench for the first 4 games that Phil Jackson coached the Lakers in 1999.  After that Bryant started 1078 of 1079 games over the 12 seasons Jackson coached the Lakers.

yeah....but still