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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 02:45:15 PM »
Do we have any idea what he did?

For all we know, he did something like walk on the grass on campus.  


I'm figurin' he porked a chick in the fieldhouse.
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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 10:13:10 PM »

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 11:19:41 PM »
Sex or a final four...

Hell that is one hard choice.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2011, 11:29:58 PM »
Well then BYU just gave its own basketball program the death penalty.

On another note, how would school officials even find out about that? And they expect us to believe the Jimmer's just been swatting groupies away like flies? Give me a break.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2011, 11:30:49 PM »
The kid had sex with his girlfriend...this is a borderline gross violation of human rights...but he did pick BYU, so he has to live with his decision.

If MU enacted similar policies, I'm quite sure everybody on this board wouldn't be here today.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2011, 12:11:16 AM »
Well then BYU just gave its own basketball program the death penalty.

On another note, how would school officials even find out about that? And they expect us to believe the Jimmer's just been swatting groupies away like flies? Give me a break.

I think BYU believes in a higher calling on this stuff.  This is pretty ballsy of them.  Whether we agree or not on the morality of it all, they have chosen to walk the walk on this.

Do you have evidence to the contrary on Jimmer?  I work with several BYU graduates and they take this stuff very seriously.  It's not for everyone, but every player knows what they are signing up for.  I'm sure there are plenty of stories of athletes getting away with stuff there, but BYU is sticking to it's guns.  I'll bet most BYU alum and most mormons are backing the school...just a guess.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2011, 10:07:27 AM »
what about lewinskys??  billy bob clinton said that ain't sex ;D

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2011, 10:15:01 AM »
I think BYU believes in a higher calling on this stuff.  This is pretty ballsy of them.  Whether we agree or not on the morality of it all, they have chosen to walk the walk on this.

I'll bet most BYU alum and most mormons are backing the school...just a guess.

I agree. I would think that most Alums and Mormons are going to follow the school on the decision. If BYU were to let him play just because of their chance (albeit likely their only chance) at postseason glory, it completely undercuts the Code of Honor that all Alums and current students stand for and are proud of.

Is it the best thing for the University at the current moment? No. In the long run? Definitely. These kids knew what they were getting into when they signed up, athlete or not.

some schools have wacky rules, but you know them and accept them when you choose to attend that school.
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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2011, 10:18:27 AM »
I think BYU believes in a higher calling on this stuff.  This is pretty ballsy of them.  Whether we agree or not on the morality of it all, they have chosen to walk the walk on this.

Do you have evidence to the contrary on Jimmer?  I work with several BYU graduates and they take this stuff very seriously.  It's not for everyone, but every player knows what they are signing up for.  I'm sure there are plenty of stories of athletes getting away with stuff there, but BYU is sticking to it's guns.  I'll bet most BYU alum and most mormons are backing the school...just a guess.

Reading Steve Delsohn's "Da Bears", it mentions McMahon back in the 80s at BYU.  He says he would leave BYU's campus every weekend and just come back for class and football.  So I don't know if everyone, athlete-wise is buying into it, they may just get out of dodge whenever possible.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2011, 11:11:33 AM »
Every school/basketball team has standards and rules, a code of conduct if you will. They range from the draconian (BYU) to the "whatever" (anything goes but felonies, and even those are okay if you're a starter).

The idea that having premarital sex should disqualify someone from playing college basketball is absurd to me and probably every other poster on this board, but that's unimportant. What's important is that it's not absurd to the Church that runs the school - and that the guys who play at BYU signed off on the rules voluntarily. They knew the consequences if they were caught breaking them. So I for one applaud BYU standing firm on their principles. It's easy to preach them in abstract, quite another to affirm them when results prove painful.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2011, 11:23:19 AM »
Every school/basketball team has standards and rules, a code of conduct if you will. They range from the draconian (BYU) to the "whatever" (anything goes but felonies, and even those are okay if you're a starter).

The idea that having premarital sex should disqualify someone from playing college basketball is absurd to me and probably every other poster on this board, but that's unimportant. What's important is that it's not absurd to the Church that runs the school - and that the guys who play at BYU signed off on the rules voluntarily. They knew the consequences if they were caught breaking them. So I for one applaud BYU standing firm on their principles. It's easy to preach them in abstract, quite another to affirm them when results prove painful.

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2011, 12:07:45 PM »
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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2011, 02:18:52 PM »
The kid had sex with his girlfriend...this is a borderline gross violation of human rights...but he did pick BYU, so he has to live with his decision.

If MU enacted similar policies, I'm quite sure everybody on this board wouldn't be here today.

I would like to categorically deny that I have had sex with anyone who post son this board!

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2011, 02:26:50 PM »
CNN said he was busted for sleeping with his G/F before marriage. Keep in mind this is a campus were coffee, tea & soda with caffeine is banned as a stimulant,

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2011, 03:28:16 PM »
So when is BYU going to announce the canceling of their basketball and football seasons? 

I'm guessing very few athletes are "qualifying". 

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2011, 02:15:11 AM »
Davies has 2 years of eligibility remaining after this season.  He seems like a stud (pun intended).  :)

If this doesn't get sorted out, a transfer is definitely in the cards.  Plenty of schools, ours included, need a big man like that. 

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2011, 10:22:42 AM »
OK...this is his girlfriend.

http://www.heraldextra.com/sports/high-school/volleyball/article_6b90cc82-9d51-5c70-88ff-55f64e3c1f3f.html

I would break an honor code or two for her...

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Re: BYU Suspends F Davies
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2011, 11:35:57 AM »
Reading Steve Delsohn's "Da Bears", it mentions McMahon back in the 80s at BYU.  He says he would leave BYU's campus every weekend and just come back for class and football.  So I don't know if everyone, athlete-wise is buying into it, they may just get out of dodge whenever possible.

Not only McMahon.

With news that BYU suspended Brandon Davies for violating its honor code, we called an authority on the topic, former Bear Glen Kozlowski. BYU suspended him in the spring of 1982.

"I had violated just about everything that was forbidden," Kozlowski told us. Teammate Jim McMahon also was suspended.

Kozlowski said he considered transferring but started dating a fellow BYU student and decided to serve his punishment and reapplied to the school a year later. "We got married the next year. … We have four sons and have been married for 29 years."

As for the Davies suspension: "He knew the rules," Kozlowski said. "Whether you agree with them or not you have to abide by them because you sign a pledge when you enroll."