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Author Topic: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread  (Read 95440 times)

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3150 on: March 15, 2024, 03:02:44 PM »
But it opens up another.

Could be. Would be weird for the Steelers to give up an asset for him to serve as a backup and then need to decide on an option/extension under those circumstances.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3151 on: March 15, 2024, 03:03:00 PM »
As Russel Wilson's backup?

Yes. Mason Rudolph is a free agent, and who knows how long Russ will be there.


Could be. Would be weird for the Steelers to give up an asset for him to serve as a backup and then need to decide on an option/extension under those circumstances.

True. But Pickett apparently wanted to move on.

And this point Fields can really only be looking at back up options right?
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3152 on: March 15, 2024, 03:15:23 PM »
And this point Fields can really only be looking at back up options right?
Best case is he is given a chance to compete for the starting job.

Stunning to think how media and most fans (including non Justin fans) were so far off on Fields' value.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3153 on: March 15, 2024, 04:23:14 PM »
Jokes aside, I'd be cool with the Packers unloading a 4th or 5th for him.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3154 on: March 15, 2024, 04:30:08 PM »
Jokes aside, I'd be cool with the Packers unloading a 4th or 5th for him.

Yeah, god help the packers if they have to play Sean Clifford
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3155 on: March 15, 2024, 07:13:21 PM »
Jokes aside, I'd be cool with the Packers unloading a 4th or 5th for him.

Agreed. Have 2 power backs. Need a dynamic back.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3156 on: March 16, 2024, 05:45:19 PM »
Fields to Steelers for 2025 6th

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3157 on: March 16, 2024, 05:47:42 PM »
But Scoop told me he’d get minimum 2 seconds, if not a first and second.

Lol.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3158 on: March 16, 2024, 05:48:01 PM »
Fields to Steelers for 2025 6th

Lol
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3159 on: March 16, 2024, 05:54:27 PM »
As Russel Wilson's backup?

Hey look. I got something right.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3160 on: March 16, 2024, 06:16:36 PM »
I must admit that I thought the Bears would do better than that though.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3161 on: March 16, 2024, 06:23:52 PM »
At the very least, it’s worth remembering that Fields was a Pace move/pick, and not Poles.  So I can appreciate Poles realizing a sunk cost and working to assemble more talent around a rookie this time around.

The next time the Bears don’t ruin a highly drafted QB will be the first, but people acting like this is Groundhog Day from Fields’ start aren’t being honest.  Allen, Moore, Everett, a much improved Kmet, and 2 good RBs is a far better landing spot for a green QB than Byron Pringle, Chase Claypool, and a between the tackles RB.

I’m not sold on or a fan of Williams, but I was excited about Fields so at least I can temper expectations comfortably

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3162 on: March 16, 2024, 06:27:40 PM »
Schefter, Kiper, Rapoport peddling the market for Fields was certainly something.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3163 on: March 16, 2024, 06:32:16 PM »
Tyrod Taylor!

Transitioning to his real path. Career backup.

I thought he would bring more - until nothing happened at the Combine. That pretty much let us know what the market was.

And what coach or GM wants to put his NFL career in Field’s hands?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3164 on: March 16, 2024, 06:36:45 PM »
Williams has been a better QB than Fields for years already. It’s a laughable return given a former top draft pick at QB, but the biggest thing is you’re getting a huge upgrade at the most important position in the game.

Now, whether Williams is good or not is the debate.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3165 on: March 16, 2024, 06:43:09 PM »
But Scoop told me he’d get minimum 2 seconds, if not a first and second.

Lol.
Scoop and pretty much everyone else was wrong about Fields' value.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3166 on: March 16, 2024, 08:02:11 PM »
So I guess it can turn into a 4th round pick if Fields plays 51% of the Steeler’s snaps this year.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3167 on: March 16, 2024, 08:14:30 PM »
Did the Steelers give up a 6th round pick for a QB that might have been released?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3168 on: March 16, 2024, 08:28:43 PM »
I haven't really followed the Bears closely for years. Did they hang onto Fields for too long, figuring offers would improve over time instead of get worse over time?

I agree with Wags that Williams will have some talent round him. If the coaches don't ruin him and if the line's any good (is it?), he might have a legit chance to succeed, even as a rookie.

It will be interesting to hear what Fields has to say after going from starter with a big payday coming up to backing up an old (washed up?) QB.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3169 on: March 16, 2024, 08:49:24 PM »
Did the Steelers give up a 6th round pick for a QB that might have been released?

A sixth round pick isn’t that big of a deal really.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3170 on: March 16, 2024, 08:55:52 PM »
A sixth round pick isn’t that big of a deal really.

What did they get for Pickett?
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3171 on: March 16, 2024, 09:17:43 PM »
Fields had a very classy goodby message to Chicago. Always a class act and hard worker. I wish him well.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3172 on: March 17, 2024, 12:06:41 AM »
It will be interesting to hear what Fields has to say after going from starter with a big payday coming up to backing up an old (washed up?) QB.

For the many (often justified) criticisms of Fields on field performance, I’ve always been fairly impressed and pleased with how he’s handled the media and off the field aspect of being and NFL starter. 

Which leads to my next point.  I think he was very lacking in a lot of ways as a starter, but I also think the Bears let him down in a variety of ways.  Both can be true. 

And one only needs to look to Baker Mayfield for motivation/inspiration.  Highly drafted and regarded QB.  Showed a lot of spark in Cleveland, but got ousted for a variety of fit reasons, got cut from a disaster of an organization in Carolina (no offense Mike  ;D), was a serviceable backup in LA for a minute, then got another chance in Tampa after taking some licks, and performed and got himself a fat contract.

He’s headed to the Steelers as a “backup” but it is very much in the realm of possibility for him to get starter reps for a good chunk of the year given how Wilson has been.

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« Reply #3173 on: March 17, 2024, 06:24:33 AM »
Oh I absolutely agree that the Bears let him down. Personnel and coaching staff wise.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #3174 on: March 17, 2024, 09:18:09 AM »
For the many (often justified) criticisms of Fields on field performance, I’ve always been fairly impressed and pleased with how he’s handled the media and off the field aspect of being and NFL starter. 

Which leads to my next point.  I think he was very lacking in a lot of ways as a starter, but I also think the Bears let him down in a variety of ways.  Both can be true. 

And one only needs to look to Baker Mayfield for motivation/inspiration.  Highly drafted and regarded QB.  Showed a lot of spark in Cleveland, but got ousted for a variety of fit reasons, got cut from a disaster of an organization in Carolina (no offense Mike  ;D), was a serviceable backup in LA for a minute, then got another chance in Tampa after taking some licks, and performed and got himself a fat contract.

He’s headed to the Steelers as a “backup” but it is very much in the realm of possibility for him to get starter reps for a good chunk of the year given how Wilson has been.

Lots of good points in there, Wags, especially about how Fields could end up starting a good chunk of the season for Pittsburgh. Not only given how Wilson has been, but because very few QBs stay healthy an entire season.

Fields' goodbye-to-Chicago note was, as WT pointed out, quite classy.

And no offense taken on your fact about the disaster that is the Carolina organization. Now that you mention it, "No Offense" would be a good working title for the official NFL films production about the 2023 Carolina Panthers.
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