Markus

[WarriorFan]

ESPN lists Markus at 6'0"... maybe its shoes plus hair?
I'd like to see him standing next to Mo Acker... pretty sure there wouldn't be much difference.

[warriorchick]

ESPN lists Markus at 6'0"... maybe its shoes plus hair?
I'd like to see him standing next to Mo Acker... pretty sure there wouldn't be much difference.

Definitely taller than Mo...but no way is he 6 foot.

[MU82]

To me, I always think if you are not going to get drafted get your degree.  A guy like Markus would have a great chance at coaching and there are going to be positions that require the college degree.  Maximize your options.  Going back to school and paying for it later is a pain in the neck.  He'll only be 21 if he stays another year anyway.  If you think you are going to get drafted in the second round it is a tougher choice and either option would be reasonable.  If you are going to be a first round choice, unless you REALLY love college, go.  If you are a lottery pick, if you REALLY love college, go anyway.

I don't know Markus but I've read a lot about him and he sure sounds like an intelligent young man. Assuming that's true, he would have absolutely no problem earning his degree down the line, be it a year from now or 10 years from now. Heck, he could finish his bachelor's and earn his masters online in a couple years.

[MomofMUltiples]

I don't know Markus but I've read a lot about him and he sure sounds like an intelligent young man. Assuming that's true, he would have absolutely no problem earning his degree down the line, be it a year from now or 10 years from now. Heck, he could finish his bachelor's and earn his masters online in a couple years.

Further, seeing how open Markus has been about a number of issues this season, I believe that when he makes a decision he will announce it with a great deal of class, and respect for his teammates and the MU fans.

Markus is bound to test the waters this year, we should expect that.  Also, remember that this year certain elite players are permitted to hire an agent to help them navigate the draft process and still return to school should they decide to do so.  I expect that Markus, who is a finalist for a number of national awards, would be permitted to hire an agent. This path has certain restrictions on what the agent can pay for, but I think it offers those "testing the waters" most of the same advantages as other potential draftees in terms of prepping for interviews, setting up individual team workouts, etc.   

All of my observances through the media is that Markus is level-headed and has a strong family support system that will help him make the best decision for him. 

[MU82]

Further, seeing how open Markus has been about a number of issues this season, I believe that when he makes a decision he will announce it with a great deal of class, and respect for his teammates and the MU fans.

Markus is bound to test the waters this year, we should expect that.  Also, remember that this year certain elite players are permitted to hire an agent to help them navigate the draft process and still return to school should they decide to do so.  I expect that Markus, who is a finalist for a number of national awards, would be permitted to hire an agent. This path has certain restrictions on what the agent can pay for, but I think it offers those "testing the waters" most of the same advantages as other potential draftees in terms of prepping for interviews, setting up individual team workouts, etc.   

All of my observances through the media is that Markus is level-headed and has a strong family support system that will help him make the best decision for him.

Outstanding observations.

[GoldenEagle323]

If he goes undrafted, it would be dumb not to come back. Realistic chance at a final four next season

[GoldenEagle323]

1. NYK   Zion Williamson   PF   Duke   Fr.   6-6   18.6
2. CLE   RJ Barrett   SG/SF   Duke   Fr.   6-7   18.7
3. PHX   Ja Morant   PG   Murray St   So.   6-3   19.6
4. CHI   Darius Garland   PG   Vanderbilt   Fr.   6-3   19.1
5. ATL   De'Andre Hunter   PF   Virginia   So.   6-8   21.2
6. MEM   Cam Reddish   SF   Duke   Fr.   6-9   19.5
7. ATL (via DAL)   Jarrett Culver   SG   Texas Tech   So.   6-6   20.0
8. WAS   Sekou Doumbouya   PF   Limoges   Intl.   6-9   18.2
9. NOP   Jaxson Hayes   C   Texas   Fr.   7-0   18.8
10. LAL   Romeo Langford   SF   Indiana   Fr.   6-6   19.3
11. CHA   Coby White   PG/SG   North Carolina   Fr.   6-5   19.0
12. MIN   Kevin Porter Jr.   SG   USC   Fr.   6-6   18.8
13. MIA   PJ Washington   PF   Kentucky   So.   6-8   20.5
14. BOS (via SAC)   Bol Bol   C   Oregon   Fr.   7-2   19.3
15. ORL   Keldon Johnson   SF   Kentucky   Fr.   6-6   19.4
16. BKN   Rui Hachimura   PF   Gonzaga   Jr.   6-9   21.1
17. DET   Nassir Little   SF/PF   North Carolina   Fr.   6-6   19.0
18. BOS (via LAC)   Talen Horton-Tucker   SF   Iowa St   Fr.   6-4   18.3
19. SAS   Cameron Johnson   SF/PF   North Carolina   Sr.   6-9   23.0
20. OKC   Tyler Herro   SG   Kentucky   Fr.   6-5   19.1
21. UTA   Nickeil Alexander-Walker   SG   Virginia Tech   So.   6-6   20.5
22. POR   Brandon Clarke   PF   Gonzaga   Jr.   6-8   22.4
23. IND   KZ Okpala   SF/PF   Stanford   So.   6-9   19.8
24. BOS   Goga Bitadze   C   Buducnost   Intl.   6-11   19.6
25. CLE (via HOU)   Jontay Porter   C   Missouri   So.   6-11   19.3
26. PHI   Matisse Thybulle   SF   Washington   Sr.   6-6   22.0
27. BKN (via DEN)   Grant Williams   PF   Tennessee   Jr.   6-7   20.2
28. GSW   Ty Jerome   PG/SG   Virginia   Jr.   6-5   21.6
29. SAS (via TOR)   Luguentz Dort   SG   Arizona St   Fr.   6-5   19.9
30. MIL   Bruno Fernando   C   Maryland   So.   6-10   20.5
31. BKN (via NYK)   Tre Jones   PG   Duke   Fr.   6-3   19.1
32. PHI (via CLE)   Chuma Okeke   SF/PF   Auburn   So.   6-7   20.5
33. PHX   Eric Paschall   PF   Villanova   Sr.   6-8   22.3
34. PHI (via CHI)   Admiral Schofield   SF/PF   Tennessee   Sr.   6-5   21.9
35. ATL   Dylan Windler   SF   Belmont   Sr.   6-7   22.4
36. CHI (via MEM)   Jalen McDaniels   SF/PF   SDSU   So.   6-10   21.1
37. DAL   Daniel Gafford   C   Arkansas   So.   6-10   20.4
38. CHA (via WAS)   Luka Samanic   PF   O. Ljubljana   Intl.   6-11   19.1
39. NOP   Isaiah Roby   PF   Nebraska   Jr.   6-8   21.1
40. SAC (via LAL)   Ayo Dosunmu   PG/SG   Illinois   Fr.   6-4   19.1
41. ATL (via CHA)   Ashton Hagans   PG   Kentucky   Fr.   6-3   19.6
42. ATL( via MIN)   Darius Bazley   SF/PF   N/A   Fr.   6-9   18.7
43. MIN (via MIA)   Dedric Lawson   PF   Kansas   Jr.   6-8   21.4
44. PHI (via SAC)   Joshua Obiesie   PG/SG   Wuerzburg   Intl.   6-6   18.8
45. SAC (via ORL)   Deividas Sirvydis   SF   L. Rytas   Intl.   6-9   18.7
46. ORL (via BKN)   Shamorie Ponds   PG   St. John's   Jr.   6-1   20.7
47. DET   Nazreon Reid   PF/C   LSU   Fr.   6-10   19.5
48. LAC   Carsen Edwards   PG   Purdue   Jr.   6-0   21.0
49. SAS   Amir Hinton   PG/SG   Shaw   Jr.   6-5   22.0
50. CHA (via OKC)   Jaylen Hoard   PF   Wake Forest   Fr.   6-9   19.9
51. UTA   Miye Oni   SF   Yale   Jr.   6-6   21.6
52. LAC (via POR)   Yovel Zoosman   SF   Maccabi   Intl.   6-8   20.8
53. IND   Adam Mokoka   SG   Mega Bemax   Intl.   6-5   20.6
54. BOS   Brian Bowen   SF   Sydney   Intl.   6-7   20.4
55. NYK (via HOU)   Terence Davis   SG   Mississippi   Sr.   6-4   21.8
56. PHI   Charles Bassey   C   W. Kentucky   Fr.   6-11   18.3
57. NOP (via DEN)   Louis King   SF/PF   Oregon   Fr.   6-8   19.9
58. GSW   John Konchar   SG   IPFW   Sr.   6-6   23.0
59. TOR   James Palmer Jr.   SF   Nebraska   Sr.   6-6   22.6
60. SAC (via MIL)   Charles Matthews   SF   Michigan   Jr.   6-6   22.3


latest espn mock draft for anyone that cares

[MomofMUltiples]

If he goes undrafted, it would be dumb not to come back. Realistic chance at a final four next season

As far as I know, players still need to notify the NCAA of their intent to return about 10 days after the completion of the draft combine.  They cannot wait to see if they are drafted.

[GoldenEagle323]

As far as I know, players still need to notify the NCAA of their intent to return about 10 days after the completion of the draft combine.  They cannot wait to see if they are drafted.

it would be dumb for him to leave is what im saying

[MU82]

it would be dumb for him to leave is what im saying

Unless he wants to leave for any number of reasons that matter to him.

Then it would be dumb for him to follow the advice of anonymous interwebs posters.

[esotericmindguy]

it would be dumb for him to leave is what im saying

If you say so.

[Not A Serious Person]

Can't a third reason to leave would be to make money professionally? The guy was BEast Player of the Year. I doubt his NBA stock gets any higher next year as he will be the same height but a year older. If you could get a job in your chosen field a year earlier, would you have stayed at Marquette? Sure I liked my time at MU, but if I could've gotten out a year early with a job lined up I would've been done in 3.

Completely disagree. 

He can get a lot better.  Look no further than Markus' good friend and roommate at the Chris Paul basketball camp Ja Morant.

If Markus wants to be a PG, he can work on getting strong, faster, a better distributor of the basketball. In short lots of things he can do to improve.

As much as NBA scouting is portrayed as a highly technical science ... a postseason run matters a lot if you want to get drafted.

Just Ask Donte DiVincenzo, you think he would still have been the 17th pick in the draft if Nova bombed out in the second round last year?  Every player has a run of three or four really good games in a year.  Instead of having it January, Donte picked the NCAA tourney and shining in the National Championship game.  His reward is millions from the Bucks to sit on the bench.

So here's how Markus gets drafted in the first round next year.  Average 31 in next year's NCAA and drop 40 to get MU in the FF. 

[fjm]

Can someone add Powell’s name to the mock draft and get him to
Leave seton hall. I can’t handle another year of him.

[GooooMarquette]

So Kemba could be a 6'11" center if he wore a stovepipe hat.

The last I checked, shoes actually make a difference in how high off the ground your hands and arms are; they get you closer to the hoop. Oh, and players actually do wear them on the court.

Stovepipe hats, not so much.

But if you want to argue simply for the sake of arguing, have at it.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So Kemba could be a 6'11" center if he wore a stovepipe hat.

I don't think that would be very effective, but it would be fun to watch!

[Smokin' Jae]

As far as I know, players still need to notify the NCAA of their intent to return about 10 days after the completion of the draft combine.  They cannot wait to see if they are drafted.

No longer the case, can hire an agent and return to school if undrafted. Must notify the ad by the Monday after the draft
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2018/08/college-basketball-ncaa-rules-agents-explanation-nba-draft-undrafted-players-fbi/amp

[brewcity77]

The last I checked, shoes actually make a difference in how high off the ground your hands and arms are; they get you closer to the hoop. Oh, and players actually do wear them on the court.

So why don't players all wear lifts, or go all out for 4" stiletto heels? That gets you further off the ground.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

So why don't players all wear lifts, or go all out for 4" stiletto heels? That gets you further off the ground.

[GooooMarquette]

So why don't players all wear lifts, or go all out for 4" stiletto heels? That gets you further off the ground.

Maybe because it wouldn’t work in a game? Just a guess....

[4everwarriors]

Sorry, Markus is no Kemba Walker. Not a rip on Howard, Kemba is the real deal in the NBA.

Da only similarity shared by Kemba and Markus is der first names begin wit "M," aina?

[MomofMUltiples]

No longer the case, can hire an agent and return to school if undrafted. Must notify the ad by the Monday after the draft
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2018/08/college-basketball-ncaa-rules-agents-explanation-nba-draft-undrafted-players-fbi/amp

The information I read says that this option will only become available if other rule changes take place - but perhaps they already have.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/flexibility-going-pro-and-getting-degree

[Jockey]

The last I checked, shoes actually make a difference in how high off the ground your hands and arms are; they get you closer to the hoop. Oh, and players actually do wear them on the court.

Stovepipe hats, not so much.

But if you want to argue simply for the sake of arguing, have at it.

Not much of a sense of humor? I don’t know how to be more obvious when making a joke.

[onepost]

Not much of a sense of humor? I don’t know how to be more obvious when making a joke.

GoooooMarquette has had a really tough showing in this thread.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So Markus made AP Second Team All American.  Obviously Scoopers weren't doing the voting.

[Not A Serious Person]

Interesting to note that the only senior on the first, second or third team is Happ.

https://ktiv.com/2019/04/02/duke-freshmen-williamson-barrett-top-ap-all-america-team/

First Team

Zion Williamson, Duke, 6-7, 285, freshman, Spartanburg, S.C., 22.1 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 2.1 apg, 69.3 fg pct, 1.8 blocks, 2.2 steals (64 of 64 first-place votes, 320 points).

Grant Williams, Tennessee, 6-7, 236, junior, Charlotte, N.C., 19.0 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.1 apg, 56.5 fg pct, 82.6 ft pct, 1.4 blocks, 1.1 steals (49, 286).

RJ Barrett, Duke, 6-7, 202, freshman, Mississauga, Ontario, 22.9 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.1 apg (44, 275).

Ja Morant, Murray State, 6-3, 175, sophomore, Dalzell, S.C., 24.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 10.0 apg, 50.3 fg pct, 81.0 ft pct, 1.8 steals (43, 272).

Cassius Winston, Michigan State, 6-1, 185, junior, Detroit, 18.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 7.6 apg, 40.4 3-pt fg pct, 84.0 ft pct (42,268).

Second Team

Rui Hachimura, Gonzaga, 6-8, 230, junior, Toyama, Japan, 20.1 rpg, 6.6 rpg, 60.9 fg pct, 1.0 steals (25, 207).

Jarrett Culver, Texas Tech, 6-6, 195, sophomore, Lubbock, Texas, 18.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.4 steals (15, 188).

Markus Howard, Marquette, 5-11, 175, junior, Chandler, Ariz., 24.8 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 4.0 apg, 40.6 3-pt fg pct, 3.5 3-pt fg/game, 88.7 ft pct, 1.1 steals (11, 186).

Ethan Happ, Wisconsin, 6-10, 237, senior, Milan, Ill., 17.5 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 53.1 fg pct, 1.3 blocks, 1.1 steals (6, 139).

Carsen Edwards, Purdue, 6-1, 200, junior, Atascocita, Texas, 23.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.0 apg, 84.3 ft pct, 3.3 3-pt fg/game, 1.4 steals (6, 133).

Third Team

De’Andre Hunter, Virginia, 6-7, 225, junior, Philadelphia, 15.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.1 apg, 53.0 fg pct, 45.7 3-pt fg pct (3, 125).

Dedric Lawson, Kansas, 6-9, 235, Memphis, Tenn., 19.1 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 82.4 ft pct, 1.1 blocks, 1.3 steals (3, 110).

Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga, 6-8, 215, junior, Phoenix, 16.5 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 69.3 fg pct, 3.1 blocks, 1.2 steals (4, 92).

PJ Washington, Kentucky, 6-8, 228 sophomore, Dallas, 14.8 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 51.5 fg pct, 41.9 3-pt fg pct, 1.2 blocks (1, 79).

Kyle Guy, Virginia, 6-2, 175, junior, Indianapolis, 15.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.2 apg, 46.3 3-pt fg pct, 83.6 ft pct (1, 44).

Honorable Mention (alphabetical order)

Keith Braxton, St. Francis (Pa.); Ignas Brazdeikis, Michigan; Tookie Brown, Georgia Southern; Chris Clemons, Campbell; RJ Cole, Howard; Jeremy Combs, Texas Southern; Jarron Cumberland, Cincinnati; Mike Daum, South Dakota State; Jordan Davis, Northern Colorado; Cameron Delaney, Sam Houston State; Lamine Diane, Cal State Northridge; Daniel Gafford, Arkansas; Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson; Rapolas Ivanauskas, Colgate; Ty Jerome, Virginia; Cameron Johnson, North Carolina; Anthony Lamb, Vermont; Fletcher Magee, Wofford; Caleb Martin, Nevada; CJ Massinburg, Buffalo; Garrison Mathews, Lipscomb; Luke Maye, North Carolina; Drew McDonald, Northern Kentucky; Sam Merrill, Utah State; Jaylen Nowell, Washington; Miye Oni, Yale; Shamorie Ponds, St. John’s; Myles Powell, Seton Hall; Admiral Schofield, Tennessee; Marial Shayok, Iowa State; B.J. Stith, Old Dominion; Matisse Thybulle, Washington; Jake Toolson, Utah Valley; Marques Townes, Loyola of Chicago; Tremont Waters, LSU; Coby White, North Carolina; Justin Wright-Foreman, Hofstra; Cameron Young, Quinnipiac.