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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: drbob on March 23, 2019, 09:25:29 PM
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Villanova getting creamed by Purdue. Must be Jay Wright is a lousy coach also !! Guess Wojo has company.
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Well after Wojo wins two national titles in 3 years, along with several BE championships too, myself and others on this board sick of his bad coaching act will cut him slack.
Not only that they’re getting their ass handed to them by a 3 seed, not a 12
Nice try at throwing cold water on the critics though
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Villanova getting creamed by Purdue. Must be Jay Wright is a lousy coach also !! Guess Wojo has company.
Sadly, it seems we need to state the obvious now. Nova, as a 6 seed, losing to a good 3 seed in Purdue is expected. Sure, they probably should have kept it closer, but Wright's resume shows he is capable of winning these big games, even if he doesn't win them all. Wojo, on the other hand, doesn't exactly have a great track record in the NCAAs. His criticism is still well deserved until he proves himself more capable.
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Maybe the program is that scoopers had irrational enthusiasm all year . Wojo is trying to improve recruiting but Joey is not a one and done, Markus is not a first round pick,and Sam has trouble off the dribble. Theo and Ed have no game outside of 5 feet. Maybe Marquette is harder to recruit to than we think . Haven’t seen consistent recruiting since the Al years during which I was a student
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Maybe the program is that scoopers had irrational enthusiasm all year . Wojo is trying to improve recruiting but Joey is not a one and done, Markus is not a first round pick,and Sam has trouble off the dribble. Theo and Ed have no game outside of 5 feet. Maybe Marquette is harder to recruit to than we think . Haven’t seen consistent recruiting since the Al years during which I was a student
That’s the coaches job to improve all of those flaws.
The Al years of recruiting are so long gone. You’ve got to take guys and get them better. Way it is for schools all over country not named Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, and Kentucky
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Maybe Marquette is harder to recruit to than we think .
If someone can recruit to Lawrence F#cking Kansas then Milwaukee is a cake walk.
It's not the location. Who would willingly move to East Lansing, West Lafayette, or Spokane?
Fact is, the Big East is way down this year. We got 3.5 slots and were slaughtered in the first weekend.
It really makes one wonder just how indicative was our magical run in January and February? Perhaps, we were just a shade better than a very pedestrian group.
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Wow can’t believe this is a topic worth discussing. Really? Villanova gets creamed in a down year after 4 guys go to the nba and after 2 of 3 years winning a national championship, but they win the big east and advance to the round of 32 and we are going to compare this to Wojo’s tenure at Marquette? Hahahahahaha
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We were there once. But nobody has been able to get us there again in 42 years, not just Wojo. BOT won’t let him recruit the jc ranks and he just missed on Grimes Mannion and Tillman,each of which would be a difference maker
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drbob
Thanks for joining discussion tonight and starting the thread. Always nice to get some new blood on the board.
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We were there once. But nobody has been able to get us there again in 42 years, not just Wojo. BOT won’t let him recruit the jc ranks and he just missed on Grimes Mannion and Tillman,each of which would be a difference maker
There is nothing stopping Wojo from recruiting JUCOs as long as they academically qualify. Wojo has kicked the tires on several JUCOs, including one in the the last few month. A few years ago Wojo had a JUCO on campus for an official visit.
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Thanks Goose for the welcome but I am actually very old blood, not new . Have followed scoop for a long time, just rarely post. Been a die hard Warrior since 1968.
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Something to potentially worry about: Nova in a "down year" still won the BE and made it the the second round
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Thanks Goose for the welcome but I am actually very old blood, not new . Have followed scoop for a long time, just rarely post. Been a die hard Warrior since 1968.
Great...another "Old Man"
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Have a problem with “Old Men”????
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Have a problem with “Old Men”????
people apparently get triggered by the “o” word around here.
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Maybe Marquette is harder to recruit to than we think . Haven’t seen consistent recruiting since the Al years.
That's been painfully obvious since Mark Aguirre picked DePaul in 1978 and Marquette went steadily down hill and crashed under Dukiet. We've had little success in the Chicago area since then -- Doc & DWade -- and none in New York. Relying mainly on Wisconsin high schools and the Michigan/ Mich. St. leftovers in Detroit isn't going to get us very far. The results of the past several weeks are rather convincing.
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Have a problem with “Old Men”????
Depends. How much can you bench press?
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Villanova getting creamed by Purdue. Must be Jay Wright is a lousy coach also !! Guess Wojo has company.
15-3 is his NCAA record last 4 years. Enough said
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We've had little success in the Chicago area
The Hatchett Man
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15-3 is his NCAA record last 4 years. Enough said
And yet even the great ones can have down years, even multiple ones in a row. Enough said
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Depends. How much can you bench press?
Keefe, I knew you were older but I didn't think you needed adult diapers yet. ;D
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Thanks Goose for the welcome but I am actually very old blood, not new . Have followed scoop for a long time, just rarely post. Been a die hard Warrior since 1968.
Are you sure it wasn't 67 or 69? Be wary of Chicos, Cheebs JG or whatever moniker he uses
If you do not remember exactly when your fandom began, he will call you out, especially if it was back in the Kojis days.
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There is nothing stopping Wojo from recruiting JUCOs as long as they academically qualify. Wojo has kicked the tires on several JUCOs, including one in the the last few month. A few years ago Wojo had a JUCO on campus for an official visit.
Is my memory failing?
Didn't the BOT even up the elegibility standard above NCAA requirements when BUZZ was coaching? The concept was to make the Big East, Ivy League-lite.
Now the eagles come home to roost.
I don't think WOJO wants to leave Marquette, but it would not suprise me if he left the Big East.
Everything is not about money, as Buzz showed. A man has to live with himself for the rest of his life. Buzz played the cards the BOT dealt him. WOJO is playing the hand now. No risk, no reward, period.
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. We've had little success in the Chicago area since then -- Doc & DWade -- and none in New York. Relying mainly on Wisconsin high schools and the Michigan/ Mich. St. leftovers in Detroit isn't going to get us very far.
Those crummy WI kids- McIllvaine, Key, Logterman, Pieper, Diener, Novak, Hauser brothers, Wes Matthews, Vander, Jamil Wilson. Yeah, what a bunch of stiffs WI has given us we’ve just found no team success with.
Chicago area- Our for now all time leading scorer- McNeal.
Until Elliott and Cain we’ve hardly had anything from MI - Grimm and Brandon Bell. Before that Crawford. That’s about it.
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Those crummy WI kids- McIllvaine, Key, Logterman, Pieper, Diener, Novak, Hauser brothers, Wes Matthews, Vander, Jamil Wilson. Yeah, what a bunch of stiffs WI has given us we’ve just found no team success with.
Chicago area- Our for now all time leading scorer- McNeal.
Until Elliott and Cain we’ve hardly had anything from MI - Grimm and Brandon Bell. Before that Crawford. That’s about it.
That was then, this is now, good luck lookin in Rice Lake.
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That was then, this is now, good luck lookin in Rice Lake.
Yeah, you’re right. Milwaukee area alone only has 3 guys at top of their classes nationally currently.
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Actually 4 local kids who are near top of their classes nationally that any program would take. Not to mention Herro starting for Kentucky.
What a wasteland this state is in HS ball.
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Forget the ratings, you win with junk yard dogs.
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Forget the ratings, you win with junk yard dogs.
Gotcha Buzz ::)
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And yet even the great ones can have down years, even multiple ones in a row. Enough said
You are so right. And even in a down year he wins the regular season BE, the BE tournament and manages to win an NCAA game. That's a heck of a down year.
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Keefe, I knew you were older but I didn't think you needed adult diapers yet. ;D
Still commando in Levi's my friend
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Still commando in Levi's my friend
Commando is the only way to go. Cant see the panty lines.
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Well after Wojo wins two national titles in 3 years, along with several BE championships too, myself and others on this board sick of his bad coaching act will cut him slack.
Not only that they’re getting their ass handed to them by a 3 seed, not a 12
Nice try at throwing cold water on the critics though
I’ll believe it when I see it. There is a vocal minority of people around here who would find plenty of things to bitch about in the middle of a Wooden-esque run of championships. What’s amazing to me is that unlike generational stereotypes, it appears to be the older generations that are the most entitled amongst our fan base.
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Until Elliott and Cain we’ve hardly had anything from MI - Grimm and Brandon Bell. Before that Crawford. That’s about it.
How can you forget Polonowski, Pops Sims, Kenny Rice or John Jimmerson?
And the immortal coach attacker James (?) Matthews, too.
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You are so right. And even in a down year he wins the regular season BE, the BE tournament and manages to win an NCAA game. That's a heck of a down year.
And went out in the second round. Coach K was one inch away from doing it yesterday. Boeheim, lost in the first round. All coaches go through this. All of them.
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Still commando in Levi's my friend
If you are still wearing Levi's, you need to make switch to Duluth ballroom jeans. Most comfortable jeans on the planet and your nuts never get smashed.
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And went out in the second round. Coach K was one inch away from doing it yesterday. Boeheim, lost in the first round. All coaches go through this. All of them.
So what? They have earned credibility. Wojo has not. That is my point. Sorry its hard for you to understand.
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So what? They have earned credibility. Wojo has not. That is my point. Sorry its hard for you to understand.
Sorry it is also hard for you to understand that even the great coaches, programs, etc, don't get through. Wojo is a young coach, almost every coach you guys keep talking about have been around a long time, been seasoned....why don't you apply the same standards then?
Look how many people wanted Wright fired, coach K fired, etc....in their first 10 years. MANY. But you guys constantly point to what they did AFTER they matured and give them a pass for what they accomplished later, but don't afford that same comparison. Interesting.
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Wojo is a young coach? What constitute young these days?
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Wojo is a young coach? What constitute young these days?
In comparison to the programs being thrown around here and the coach comps....yes. People are throwing Wright around...the guy has been coaching at Nova since 2001, and prior to that since 1994 with Hofstra. Wright's first 3 years at Nova, no NCAA appearances.
Let's look at the very list of coaches in our conference and how Wojo compares in years as HC
Wright
Letaio
Cooley
Willard
McDermott
all with more head coaching experience then he has. SIGNIFICANTLY more in most cases.