Kolek planning to go pro
You're not thinking this through. If our HCWs and other who are essential are getting sick from covid then they can't do their ESSENTIAL jobs. You used the example of a 24 year old getting the vaccine over a 65 year old... well if the 65 year old is sitting home or masking and going to the store and NOT doing all the irresponsible crap they shouldn't be doing, then they have low risk. Meanwhile the 24 year old nurse is doing the best she can, working overtime to care for the 65 year olds who are running around town, going to bars, and seeing family. If she gets sick, it puts her family at risk, and she can't do her job to care for people. THIS PUTS THE 65 YEAR OLD AT RISK IN A DIFFERENT, BUT MORE DEADLY WAY.Not to mention there are a hell of a lot less essential workers than there are 65+ year olds in Florida. The issue here ISN'T the potential for death, its the potential for health care and essential worker collapse.DeSantis knows who votes in Florida, and that there are a lot more 65+ voters than there are essential workers. He did simple math, period.
The line drawn for essential workers is ridiculous. My 39yr old sister and 68yr old mom are both getting vaccinated tomorrow because as nurses they're deemed essential... they run a medispa. Granted they did some volunteer work in clinics for a bit earlier on in the shut down but not anymore.I don't know if every state is just saying "this person is a licensed medical professional of some sort so vaccinate them" but if so that's ridiculous and we could've done better.
You’re misrepresenting. HCW are at the front of the line in Florida and in my area have already received the first dose. But the 22 year old grocery clerk and the 40 year old teacher (who have almost no chance of dying from Covid) will now wait in line behind those 65+ instead of those 75+. And those between 65 and 74 are in much greater danger of death than those younger. I have 4 kids, ages 36, 37, 39 and 42. They have kids. None of them voted for Trump and (if eligible) none of them would have voted for DeSantis. Two are deemed essential workers. But they’re aware that their parents (ages 69 and 72) are much more vulnerable to Covid than they are. They would all give up their place in line for a senior and are very grateful that their (at greater risk) parents will get the vaccine more quickly because they live in Florida. I recall that when your parents were stuck on that cruise ship you were very concerned. Assuming they’re both 72, do you think that should wait until 118 million have been vaccinated to get the shot? Based on CDC guidelines that was the New York Times estimate for me. There are evidently a hell of a lot more workers deemed essential than you think.
My 39yr old sister and 68yr old mom are both getting vaccinated tomorrow because as nurses they're deemed essential... they run a medispa.
Curious...what state? This seems to be a crapshoot depending on state.
Arizona, I suppose in Scottsdale Botox and lasers are medical necessities
I hadn't noticed until now .. one of the triggers to be in the Phase 1c vaccine group?Being a past or current smoker.I guess I can stop trying to be obese now. I smoked a few cigars years ago. Or not, but who would know?Maybe I'll buy a pack of Lucky's on the way to the vaccination, just to be safe.
Some on here, and De Santis (and other governors) are trying to over-simplify the calculus on saving lives. The best way to save lives is to stop the spread. The CDC closely examines which populations are contributing most to the spread. Those are the essential workers, who are unable to stay home and WFH.
https://abc11.com/moderna-vaccine-side-effects-covid-19-fda-dr-shirley-chi/9083838/
It is 3 pts out of 30,000 and the filler is not identified.
[quote author=Hards_Alumni link=topic=60399.msg1292309#msg1292309 date=1609257751Additionally, I think it is quite telling to see the people who were harping how we 'cant shut down the economy' think that retirees who can literally shelter in place for months NEED the vaccine first. It would be funny, if it weren't such a ME FIRST boomer mentality. You guys have had everything handed to your generation your entire lives... why stop now! It was all about saving the economy for months, and now its all about saving people. What a total crock of sh!t.HardsI started on the CBOE as a runner making $500 a month. Left the firm I worked for 6 years later, borrowed money from a bank to open a trading account, leased a seat and went to work for myself. I was barely 30 and already had one of four kids and a wife to support. Nothing was “handed” to me, and there were plenty of ups and downs. I’m grateful for all of them, but mostly for my family and the friends I made along the way. Your hatred of my (and your parent’s) generation puzzles me. Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you given the family business to run by your parents? I would think gratitude rather than bitterness would be what you feel towards those boomers.Re the Covid, this board has scores of posts on the horrendous death count. We know who it kills. Florida has a plan that will better protect those people - which I thought was the idea. I guess it’s not for you - off with their heads, death to the entitled!
Says the guy who says he doesn’t care about motive anymore, yet this new rule just by happenstance benefits YOU.
It’s high comedy from the Tap. Just bask in the egotism.
Do the 4000 black men freed due to the Prison Reform Bill have to oppose it on philosophical grounds because it benefits them? Is it logical to oppose a policy that makes sense just because you may benefit? Mean spirited nonsense.
[quote author=Hards_Alumni link=topic=60399.msg1292309#msg1292309 date=1609257751Additionally, I think it is quite telling to see the people who were harping how we 'cant shut down the economy' think that retirees who can literally shelter in place for months NEED the vaccine first. It would be funny, if it weren't such a ME FIRST boomer mentality. You guys have had everything handed to your generation your entire lives... why stop now! It was all about saving the economy for months, and now its all about saving people. What a total crock of sh!t.HardsI started on the CBOE as a runner making $500 a month. Left the firm I worked for 6 years later, borrowed money from a bank to open a trading account, leased a seat and went to work for myself. I was barely 30 and already had one of four kids and a wife to support. Nothing was “handed” to me, and there were plenty of ups and downs. I’m grateful for all of them, but mostly for my family and the friends I made along the way. Your hatred of my (and your parent’s) generation puzzles me. Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you given the family business to run by your parents? I would think gratitude rather than bitterness would be what you feel towards those boomers.Re the Covid, this board has scores of posts on the horrendous death count. We know who it kills. Florida has a plan that will better protect those people - which I thought was the idea. I guess it’s not for you - off with their heads, death to the entitled!Edit: I’m told you work in your in-laws family business, not your parent’s. Sorry for the misstatement but the point still stands.