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Title: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: brewnewsman on July 10, 2010, 05:54:41 PM
Way to go Wes!

Yahoo:
Wesley Matthews has signed a 5-year, $34 million offer sheet with Portland, his agent, Lance Young, tells Y!

Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: StillAWarrior on July 10, 2010, 05:57:13 PM
Way to go Wes!

Yahoo:
Wesley Matthews has signed a 5-year, $34 million offer sheet with Portland, his agent, Lance Young, tells Y!


Wow.  That's great.  From undrafted free agent to 5 years at $6 million plus per year.  That's awesome.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: NersEllenson on July 10, 2010, 05:59:44 PM
Way to go Wes!

Yahoo:
Wesley Matthews has signed a 5-year, $34 million offer sheet with Portland, his agent, Lance Young, tells Y!


Does Utah get the opportunity to match that - or does this mean Wes is going to Portland?
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: StillAWarrior on July 10, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Does Utah get the opportunity to match that - or does this mean Wes is going to Portland?

I'm fairly certain Utah gets a chance to match.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: brewnewsman on July 10, 2010, 06:27:19 PM
Utah has seven days to match.  He seemed like a good fit there so hopefully they do.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: Pakuni on July 10, 2010, 06:28:43 PM
Tough to say no to that kind of money, but you've got to believe Wes hopes Utah matches so he isn't stuck as Brandon Roy's backup for the next several years.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: nyg on July 10, 2010, 06:29:43 PM
Utah has seven days to match.  He seemed like a good fit there so hopefully they do.

I hope so.  He goes to Portland, then he comes off the bench.  He doesn't beat out Brandon Roy at SG.  
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: Pakuni on July 10, 2010, 06:46:16 PM
Awesome factoid about the offer sheet: it calls for Wes to make $9.2 million next year, more than any player who actually was selected in the 2009 draft.
He who laughs last laughs best, I guess.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GOMU1104 on July 10, 2010, 06:59:13 PM
Awesome factoid about the offer sheet: it calls for Wes to make $9.2 million next year, more than any player who actually was selected in the 2009 draft.
He who laughs last laughs best, I guess.

Its acually around double of what the #1 pick, Blake Griffin, will make. 
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GOO on July 10, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
I doubt Wes is worried about being a backup. That should be way down the list when guaranteed money is involved.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: MUfan12 on July 10, 2010, 07:08:53 PM
Doesn't Utah have some space freed up with Korver and Boozer gone? Yet according to the Salt Lake Tribune beat writer it's far from a guarantee they'll match.

I'd much rather see him in Utah, but I'm thrilled that he's gonna get paid. Certainly earned it!
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GOMU1104 on July 10, 2010, 07:17:28 PM
Doesn't Utah have some space freed up with Korver and Boozer gone? Yet according to the Salt Lake Tribune beat writer it's far from a guarantee they'll match.

I'd much rather see him in Utah, but I'm thrilled that he's gonna get paid. Certainly earned it!

That organization is in terrible shape financially.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 10, 2010, 07:21:05 PM
My only concern is that the Blazers fired Kevin Pritchard because NBA writers kept talking about what a good job he was doing.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 10, 2010, 07:27:39 PM
Good for Wes! He and Roy could definitely see the court at the same time. Portland just traded Martell Webster and there are minutes to be had. Portland's potential 2/3's for next season...
Wes Matthews
Brandon Roy
Nic Batum
Luke Babbitt
Elliot Williams

Whether Utah matches or not, Wes should be in a good place to play. In terms of the $9.2M next season, many contracts for restricted FAs are front-loaded because it hurts the previous team the most in terms of cap space.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 10, 2010, 08:47:55 PM
I hope they match.

I feel really bad for DWill.

He, not Chris Paul, may just end up leaving Utah for NYK. He's got NOTHING in Utah.

CJ Miles? AK47? Millsap? Koufos? Fesenko? I know it's not "nothing" but it's a far cry from Boozer, Wes, Korver...
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: groove on July 10, 2010, 09:27:11 PM
Portland pulled the same thing on Utah last season with an inflated offer sheet to Paul Millsap. Utah matched it. Wouldn't be surprised to see Utah pass on this one, 9.2 million for someone who hasn't even started a half season's worth of games. But I'm happy for Wes, win win situation for him.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2010, 07:58:20 AM
I love Wes, but that is a risky contract for Portland...or if Utah matches.  I guess in a league with 30 teams, you only need to find one buyer.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: Windyplayer on July 11, 2010, 10:21:37 AM
So assuming Utah doesn't match Portland's offer, will Matthews and Diener be teammates or is Diener expected to be traded?
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: pbiflyer on July 11, 2010, 10:29:22 AM
Diener is currently a free agent. He only had a one year deal.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: Daniel on July 11, 2010, 10:48:16 AM
Great for Wes!  His head must be spinning with excitement over this deal!  He deserves it and worked hard for it - keep it going Wes!
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: patso on July 11, 2010, 11:34:14 AM
Hopefully not Jim McIlvane #2
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: avid1010 on July 11, 2010, 03:33:59 PM
I love Wes, but that is a risky contract for Portland...or if Utah matches.  I guess in a league with 30 teams, you only need to find one buyer.

You love Wes, but yet had to say something to defend your comments that Wes wasn't worth half of what he was just offered.  I guess in a league of 30 teams, Wes is worth more that you care to admit.  Risky?  You don't know that any more than you knew how much he was worth in free agency.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GGGG on July 11, 2010, 08:07:17 PM
You love Wes, but yet had to say something to defend your comments that Wes wasn't worth half of what he was just offered. 


When did I say that?

I'm sorry, but some here are questioning Salmons deal with the Bucks.  Salmons is a proven NBA player....Wes isn't...yet he's going to make just $6 million less over the course of the contract.

I'm just saying it's risky.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: HoopsMalone on July 11, 2010, 08:30:05 PM
Portland must have liked what Wes showed in the playoffs covering Kobe and Carmello. 

Portland and OKC are the two teams that could challenge the Lakers soon.  Maybe not next season, but in two seasons if things keep trending the way that they are.  Even if Wes backs up Brandon Roy, he will see some strong minutes.

Portland also was one of the teams that the Bulls were trying to trade Deng to.  All the rumors had Portland's big center and a guard or two being sent to Chicago.  Wes would have a lot more room in the rotation if Portland did send a few guards to Chicago for Deng. 
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: avid1010 on July 11, 2010, 08:47:06 PM

When did I say that?

I'm sorry, but some here are questioning Salmons deal with the Bucks.  Salmons is a proven NBA player....Wes isn't...yet he's going to make just $6 million less over the course of the contract.

I'm just saying it's risky.
Actually you didn't say half, you said less than half when you said, "Yeah...no way Matthews is a $3 M a year player at this point.  Too limited offensively."  

I'm not sure how risky of an offer it is.  Your comparison to Salmons is nice, but Portland wasn't offering him for a reason.  I can give you plenty of players who make that kind of money that never get off the bench, but that doesn't prove a point either.  The fact is Wesley is a young role player, that doesn't need the ball in his hands like a Salmons does.  He does many things that Salmons, or players like him, don't do, and for that reason he found a team very interested in his services.  Portland makes an offer to a solid role player that is young and has an upside.  They front loaded the contract, which makes me believe they really want him in a Portland jersey next year.  Is it risky to expect a rookie to continue playing at the level he did as a rookie?  If Wes does that, I think Portland comes out just fine, if he improves, they make out well.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: wojosdojo on July 11, 2010, 11:27:30 PM
Sure hopes Utah matches, and if they do I would think he'd like to stay there. Sloan really likes Wes and we can't forget that Utah was the only team that gave Wes a chance. Plus, we'd be able to watch him more  ;).
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GGGG on July 12, 2010, 07:45:12 AM
Actually you didn't say half, you said less than half when you said, "Yeah...no way Matthews is a $3 M a year player at this point.  Too limited offensively."  


Well, you can be assured that I didn't say it was risky to defend comments I had made back in May.

I honestly didn't even remember saying the above.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on July 12, 2010, 08:03:59 AM
Sure hopes Utah matches, and if they do I would think he'd like to stay there. Sloan really likes Wes and we can't forget that Utah was the only team that gave Wes a chance. Plus, we'd be able to watch him more  ;).

if utah matches, he has to go there.  that's the whole point of being a restricted free agent.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: MUBurrow on July 12, 2010, 10:56:18 AM
wow, on an earlier thread we had discussed that portland is tricky when it comes to playing time, because they have a lot of guys that seemingly mirror wes in terms of size and strengths.  but for that kind of money, they must have a plan to get him on the floor.

side note: even if they aren't sure how to employ him, maybe they figure that he has enough intangibles that he would be easily tradeable if they dont end up giving him enough pt to reflect that kind of $$? a playoff team could always use a guy like that off the bench at the deadline.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: shiloh26 on July 12, 2010, 11:28:15 AM
wow, on an earlier thread we had discussed that portland is tricky when it comes to playing time, because they have a lot of guys that seemingly mirror wes in terms of size and strengths.  but for that kind of money, they must have a plan to get him on the floor.

side note: even if they aren't sure how to employ him, maybe they figure that he has enough intangibles that he would be easily tradeable if they dont end up giving him enough pt to reflect that kind of $$? a playoff team could always use a guy like that off the bench at the deadline.

Yeah, as someone else mentioned, teams must have liked how he showed up in the playoffs as a rookie, guarding some of the best offensive players in the game. 
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: RawdogDX on July 12, 2010, 11:42:18 AM
Portland may have slightly overpaid, but they got a good player locked up for a long time and that is what is important.  In 3 years if Wes can do, for an entire season, what he did this year in the playoffs it will a steal at 6 mill.

Roy spends a lot of time at the 3 so Wes will get a lot of minutes, if not start.  Also when typing brandon roy into the bing search bar the first thing that pops up is: brandon roy injury.  
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on July 12, 2010, 03:31:35 PM
Think Roy might start at the 3 and let Wes play the 2?
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: GB Warrior on July 14, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
He's officially a Trailblazer!

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=1681&line=137913&spln=1 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=1681&line=137913&spln=1)
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on July 14, 2010, 09:28:35 PM
Awesome. Im hearing that the blazers coach likes Wes at the 2 and 3. Im also hearing that this signing could signal a big trade by the blazers to get rid of fernandez or maybe batum


Chris Paul is rumored.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: MUWarrior11 on July 14, 2010, 09:36:38 PM
Count me as a Blazers fan
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: MUfan12 on July 14, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Wow... Raja Bell?

Utah must be in some dire financial straits.
Title: Re: Wes: 5yr, $34M
Post by: Markusquette on July 14, 2010, 10:22:28 PM
Wow... Raja Bell?

Utah must be in some dire financial straits.

Bell's a pretty good pickup, not much of a downgrade or none at all if he can stay healthy.