Bad Mayo

[mattyv1908]

It's funny that you guys are calling this game a bad Mayo performance.  He made key baskets early, had some big assists throughout the game and a couple of aggressive turnovers late (given the fouls being called, for all we know he could have been instructed to take it to the rim by our staff).

To put in into comparison, his game tonight would be a top five career game from either of our point guards this year.  You guys are really silly.

[PGsHeroes32]

It's funny that you guys are calling this game a bad Mayo performance.  He made key baskets early, had some big assists throughout the game and a couple of aggressive turnovers late (given the fouls being called, for all we know he could have been instructed to take it to the rim by our staff).

To put in into comparison, his game tonight would be a top five career game from either of our point guards this year.  You guys are really silly.

No kidding, its how wadesworld roles.

He calls out other posters. He says they live in parents basements. He gets proven wrong.

Then contradicts everything he stands for and calls our one of the teams best players....and is wrong as usual.

Guy is an idiot. Somewhere Dwyane Wade is pissed off.

[Marqevans]

It's funny that you guys are calling this game a bad Mayo performance.  He made key baskets early, had some big assists throughout the game and a couple of aggressive turnovers late (given the fouls being called, for all we know he could have been instructed to take it to the rim by our staff).

To put in into comparison, his game tonight would be a top five career game from either of our point guards this year.  You guys are really silly.

I think people tend to focus on the end of the game.  His two turnovers in a row at the end really almost irreversibly changed the momentum of the game.

[PGsHeroes32]

Whats actually hilarious about this thread is it was started by a guy who when I said Buzz was foolish for simply not playing Gardner more in the second half vs DePaul(1.5 games support me btw)

He asked me "what college basketball team are you coaching"

Alright, Sh it head what college basketball team are you playing on? None?

NEXT.

[GGGG]

Exactly. I hate a couple of certain players but I'll celebrate WINS and give props to whoever.

This is just gross.

Says the guy who is going emotionally unhinged at the coach for Davante's playing time.

[GGGG]

I actually don't think Mayo was all that bad except for a couple of bad possessions in the second half. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Bad Jamil showed up tonight too

Have we ever had two talented players that were more consistently inconsistent that Jamil and Todd?

[tower912]

The last time Todd and Jamil were both this bad at the same time was the SJU game.   Being at home helped, but it was an impressive step to see the rest of the team overcome it.   

[wadesworld]

Whats actually hilarious about this thread is it was started by a guy who when I said Buzz was foolish for simply not playing Gardner more in the second half vs DePaul(1.5 games support me btw)

He asked me "what college basketball team are you coaching"

Alright, Sh it head what college basketball team are you playing on? None?

NEXT.

Again, saying "Buzz being the fool that he is..." is much different than saying "Buzz was foolish to not have played Gardner more in the 2nd half of the game..."  The first (which is exactly what you said) is calling Buzz a fool of a person.  The second is saying Buzz made a bad decision, which I would not necessarily disagree with.  If you don't want to be called out for calling someone a fool, think about what you are saying before you say it.

Can you stop crying now, 2 weeks later?

[wadesworld]

No kidding, its how wadesworld roles.

He calls out other posters. He says they live in parents basements. He gets proven wrong.

Then contradicts everything he stands for and calls our one of the teams best players....and is wrong as usual.

Guy is an idiot. Somewhere Dwyane Wade is pissed off.

Aww, I made a sarcastic post in a sarcastic thread that was specifically asking what posters live in their parents basements?  Are you calling every poster out who commented in that thread, or...?   

Yes, that is how i "role."

[MarsupialMadness]

Hey dude. Gardner hasn't missed tonight. Literally. Why are you charging into a crowded lane with 30 seconds left on the shot clock up 3 with 3 minutes to go when your big man has scored your team's last 9 points? Why? Just why? Absolutely inexcusable.

Absolutely inexcusable?  Really?

I'm happy to see the agression.  Everyone criticizes him for not being "the man", so he took a shot and drove the lane.  He missed the shot, we still won the game.

[wadesworld]

Absolutely inexcusable?  Really?

I'm happy to see the agression.  Everyone criticizes him for not being "the man", so he took a shot and drove the lane.  He missed the shot, we still won the game.

Entirely inexcusable.  Mayo has been the man on a number of occasions down the stretch this season.  If Davante hadn't scored the last 9 points for Marquette, fouled out 3 guys so far, and literally not missed a shot to that point then the shot may make more sense.  But why are we charging into the lane with tunnel vision with 30 seconds left on the shot clock given those facts?  I made a thread about this team not understanding "time and situation."  This would be another example of that.  Take away time on the shot clock, score, time left in the game, or anything that had happened up to that point in the game and the play was not a bad play.  But given time and situation, it was an inexcusable play.

[NersEllenson]

Know you are a Mayo lover...if you want to constantly argue that he's great and only needs more opportunities, please be sure to acknowledge when he's wasting his opportunities by playing selfish inconsistent ball.

I have been happy with Mayo's play of late, but he reverted back to his frustrating get mine game tonight. He took a few bad shots during key stretches late in the game when Gardner was owning the post and fouling every single big out of the game.

He isn't wasting opportunities...was he playing selfish ball when he rallied us back from Villanova.  Ever see D-Wade, Wesbrook, or any other slasher get stripped going to the basket, turn it over.  Todd is the one guy who will force action on the team, and can collapse a D.  Not always easy among the trees.  Todd took 4 shots last night...you want to call that "get mine," selfish, whatever.  Todd had 4 assists too. 

And yes, there is something about a defense knowing what is coming and doing what they can to shut it off....Gardner was that guy down the stretch..and GTown tried to take it away...Todd made decision to penetrate..he makes the 4' floater and doesn't get stripped on the other one...everyone is happy.

And BTW...what happened the last time we went to Gardner (who I love), he got double/tripled and missed the shot....there is such a thing as going to the well 1 too many times..

[NersEllenson]

If you are here defending the particular Mayo drives in this thread, you should be over defending Juan in the other thread because the situation was the exact same.

Except Mayo has a track record of being able to finish with a hoop 50% of the time, and has shown he can be effective going to the basket...

[MarsupialMadness]

Except Mayo has a track record of being able to finish with a hoop 50% of the time, and has shown he can be effective going to the basket...

+1. 

Criticizing our guards for attacking the basket!  With 3 minutes left!  Oh no.  I guess Todd shouldn't touch the ball anymore with the game hanging in the balance for the final 3 minutes.  I wonder why he was even in the game if not to only pass it to Davante?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Mayo has been nothing but a bright spot during conference play this year. I see Vander type numbers next year from him.

[Eldon]

Except Mayo has a track record of being able to finish with a hoop 50% of the time, and has shown he can be effective going to the basket...

Yup.  If Mayo is driving and actually making to the basket, I'm happy.  I'll take the miss or stripped-once-in-a-while for some aggressive baskets.

[BCHoopster]

Mayo has been nothing but a bright spot during conference play this year. I see Vander type numbers next year from him.

Your dreaming, does not have enough quickness, so he really has to be open to score and his range is not that good.  He is average at best.  Yesterday he had a 10 foot airball.  He is old for
his age, do not see that much improvement.  Vander was much quicker and much better in the open court. like the ability to dunk the ball, had a great left hand as well going to the hoop, Todd
not even close.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Your dreaming, does not have enough quickness, so he really has to be open to score and his range is not that good.  He is average at best.  Yesterday he had a 10 foot airball.  He is old for
his age, do not see that much improvement.  Vander was much quicker and much better in the open court. like the ability to dunk the ball, had a great left hand as well going to the hoop, Todd
not even close.

Again though, Vander was always talented but all it took was one offseason for the switch to turn on. I am not dreaming. Mayo will be averaging 16 a game next year.

[GGGG]

The only thing Todd does better than Vander is shoot the ball from deep.  They are equal in some areas, but Vander is better in most.

[BCHoopster]

Again though, Vander was always talented but all it took was one offseason for the switch to turn on. I am not dreaming. Mayo will be averaging 16 a game next year.

Time will tell, but he does nothing special.  I can see maybe 12 next year, not 16.  Then again I am not sure how they score points next year.  Deonte Burton might be there leading scorer next year.

[Windyplayer]

Your dreaming, does not have enough quickness, so he really has to be open to score and his range is not that good.  He is average at best.  Yesterday he had a 10 foot airball.  He is old for
his age, do not see that much improvement.  Vander was much quicker and much better in the open court. like the ability to dunk the ball, had a great left hand as well going to the hoop, Todd
not even close.

I totally disagree. Todd Mayo has a silky smooth drive and finish with his left hand. In fact, I think that's one of the most impressive parts of his game and it definitely rivals Blues'. I think your comment is based on large part on Blues' finish against Davidson last year, which was amazing, but I truly think Mayo is just as capable of that finish.

That aside, no question, Blue was more explosive and better in open court. But Mayo does have a lot of similar value to Blue, just not quite as much.

[Windyplayer]

The only thing Todd does better than Vander is shoot the ball from deep.  They are equal in some areas, but Vander is better in most.

This is beautifully concise.

[NersEllenson]

Your dreaming, does not have enough quickness, so he really has to be open to score and his range is not that good.  He is average at best.  Yesterday he had a 10 foot airball.  He is old for
his age, do not see that much improvement.  Vander was much quicker and much better in the open court. like the ability to dunk the ball, had a great left hand as well going to the hoop, Todd
not even close.

Well...he really isn't dreaming, because if you look at per 40...Mayo this year is better than Blue in virtually every measurable category...one big difference..Todd gets to the FT line at twice the rate Vander did.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=todd-mayo&i=1&p1=vander-blue

I'd agree Vander is a better overall athlete, is a longer player - wingspan and height - not sure about a better first step.  Vander was really good in transition last year....sadly, we don't really have a transition game this year...AT ALL.

[BCHoopster]

I totally disagree. Todd Mayo has a silky smooth drive and finish with his left hand. In fact, I think that's one of the most impressive parts of his game and it definitely rivals Blues'. I think your comment is based on large part on Blues' finish against Davidson last year, which was amazing, but I truly think Mayo is just as capable of that finish.

That aside, no question, Blue was more explosive and better in open court. But Mayo does have a lot of similar value to Blue, just not quite as much.

You must be drinking the same kool-aid on Todd, I sure do not see it.  16 a game next year, no chance.