Prediction Time

[brewcity77]

For the easy answer, just go ahead with the poll question. If you want more detail, here's the full schedule to either quote or copy and paste:

Nov 13 - v Belmont
Nov 16 - v IUPUI
Nov 19 - v Iowa
Nov 23 - LSU
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St
Nov 29 - v Jackson State
Dec 2 - v Grambling
Dec 5 - v Maine
Dec 8 - v San Jose State
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin
Dec 21 - v Chicago State
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown
Jan 5 - @ Providence
Jan 9 - v St. John's
Jan 13 - @ Villanova
Jan 16 - v Xavier
Jan 20 - v DePaul
Jan 23 - @ St. John's
Jan 27 - v Stetson
Jan 30 - v Butler
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall
Feb 6 - @ Xavier
Feb 10 - v Providence
Feb 13 - v Creighton
Feb 20 - @ DePaul
Feb 24 - @ Creighton
Feb 27 - v Villanova
Mar 1 - v Georgetown
Mar 5 - @ Butler

Non-conference Record:
Conference Record:
Total Record:

[brewcity77]

My predictions...

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa L
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin W
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier W
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler L
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton W
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown W
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Non-conference Record: 11-2
Conference Record: 11-7
Total Record: 22-9

A rocky start with losses to Iowa and LSU has the doubters out in force, but the combination of a pillow-soft schedule and an inexperienced Wisconsin win has fans entering Big East play on a high at 10-2. We embody the Team Bubble Watch moniker until mid-February when we rattle off 4 wins in a row to get us to double-digit league wins. A tough three-game finish has us finish at 11-7 in league play and just on the inside of the bubble, with one win needed at MSG to ensure we go back to the Dance for the first time since 2013.

[tower912]

For the easy answer, just go ahead with the poll question. If you want more detail, here's the full schedule to either quote or copy and paste:

Nov 13 - v Belmont        L
Nov 16 - v IUPUI            W
Nov 19 - v Iowa              L
Nov 23 - LSU                   L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St    L
Nov 29 - v Jackson State         W
Dec 2 - v Grambling                W
Dec 5 - v Maine                     W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State        W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin            L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State       W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian         W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall          W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown  L
Jan 5 - @ Providence     L
Jan 9 - v St. John's       W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova     L
Jan 16 - v Xavier       L
Jan 20 - v DePaul      W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's     L
Jan 27 - v Stetson      W
Jan 30 - v Butler     W
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall     L
Feb 6 - @ Xavier      L
Feb 10 - v Providence     W
Feb 13 - v Creighton      W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul     L
Feb 24 - @ Creighton    W
Feb 27 - v Villanova      L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown    L   
Mar 5 - @ Butler     L

Non-conference Record:7-5
Conference Record:  7-11
Total Record:

I want to believe.   I just don't trust freshmen.    Hopefully, I am dreadfully wrong and get mocked mercilessly.

[dgies9156]

I'm a dreamer and I think 23-8. The eight losses are to:

At Georgetown
At Villanova
At Wisconsin (I HATE THIS and Desperately hope I am wrong!)
At Butler
Iowa
LSU
At Providence
Villanova

[wadesworld]

A rocky start with losses to Iowa and LSU has the doubters out in force, but the combination of a pillow-soft schedule and an inexperienced Wisconsin win has fans entering Big East play on a high at 10-2. We embody the Team Bubble Watch moniker until mid-February when we rattle off 4 wins in a row to get us to double-digit league wins. A tough three-game finish has us finish at 11-7 in league play and just on the inside of the bubble, with one win needed at MSG to ensure we go back to the Dance for the first time since 2013.

When your top 2 players have started on a National runner up team, you are not inexperienced.

[wadesworld]

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown W
Jan 5 - @ Providence W
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier W
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler W
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton W
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown W
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Non-conference Record: 11-2
Conference Record: 14-4
Total Record: 25-6

3 seed.  Elite 8.

[brewcity77]

When your top 2 players have started on a National runner up team, you are not inexperienced.

When you have zero scholarship seniors and only two players that have ever averaged more than 8 mpg in a collegiate season, you are inexperienced.

[Silkk the Shaka]

23-8
11-7 conference
6 seed NCAA
S16

[wadesworld]

When you have zero scholarship seniors and only two players that have ever averaged more than 8 mpg in a collegiate season, you are inexperienced.

Their starting point guard was the starting point guard in the National Title game.  If that is inexperienced, then every single team in the entire country is beyond inexperienced.

[Litehouse]

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa L
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St L
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier W
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's L
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler W
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton L
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown W
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Non-conference Record: 9-4
Conference Record: 10-8
Total Record:  19-12

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

When you have zero scholarship seniors and only two players that have ever averaged more than 8 mpg in a collegiate season, you are inexperienced.

You just described this year's Marquette team.  So Marquette is going to go on the road and out inexperience the Badgers???

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You just described this year's Marquette team.  So Marquette is going to go on the road and out inexperience the Badgers???

Marquette has four players who have averaged 8 our Nye mpg. But your point is a good one. We are just as if not more inexperienced than the vadgers. Beating them in their house would be a very tall order

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Marquette has four players who have averaged 8 our Nye mpg. But your point is a good one. We are just as if not more inexperienced than the vadgers. Beating them in their house would be a very tall order

Sorry, thought you wrote ppg, not mpg.  Still, my point about MU being inexperienced stands.

[real chili 83]

NM

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I want to believe.   I just don't trust freshmen.    Hopefully, I am dreadfully wrong and get mocked mercilessly.

I don't know how you say you can't trust freshman after watching Kentucky and Duke recently, and before you say well yea but they were top 25 guys, we actually have one of those guys, plus a stud SG and center. I trust freshman, the college basketball scene isn't what it was 10 years ago.

[Jay Bee]

I don't know how you say you can't trust freshman after watching Kentucky and Duke recently, and before you say well yea but they were top 25 guys, we actually have one of those guys, plus a stud SG and center. I trust freshman, the college basketball scene isn't what it was 10 years ago.

Duke was very unique. Sure, some of saw their national championship coming a mile away, but that's because of their unique frosh.

[wadesworld]

Duke was very unique. Sure, some of saw their national championship coming a mile away, but that's because of their unique frosh.

BeeJay I think the best thing about you is your ability to pat yourself on the back. The worst of their 4 freshman was an All American, and they had a star senior. This wasn't like calling George Mason to the Final Four.

[Jay Bee]

Kentucky was the HEAVY favorite before the season started. Not for me. Duke was just one of several teams in the mix "for second."

At tourney time? Kentucky was 'incapable of losing' according to some, and an enormous favorite to win it all.

Them's the facts.

[brewcity77]

Their starting point guard was the starting point guard in the National Title game.  If that is inexperienced, then every single team in the entire country is beyond inexperienced.

You're confusing experienced players with an experienced team. Bo is used to experienced teams. He doesn't remotely have that this year. As a team, they are inexperienced.

Marquette is a little more experienced, but the difference in my opinion is that I feel our newcomers are better than their newcomers.

[hoyasincebirth]

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU W
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier L
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler L
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton W
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown L
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

[Galway Eagle]

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU W
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier L
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler L
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton W
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown L
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Wait you think we'll take out a very very good lsu team but can't beat you nova x or butler once? You must not be a big fan of the top freshmen in the country.

[PGsHeroes32]

Alright Everyone is entitled to their predictions

But why in the hell are so many people picking Iowa?

I will be truly disappointed if we lose that game.

More worried about Belmont.

I think we go 10-2(11 once we play Stetson) in non conference by losing to wisco(sadly) and 1 in Brooklyn.

Then I'll temper expectations with a 10-8 conference(hoping for 11-7).

[hoyasincebirth]

Wait you think we'll take out a very very good lsu team but can't beat you nova x or butler once? You must not be a big fan of the top freshmen in the country.

1) I don't think LSU has that much talent outside of Simmons if Martin or Mickey were still around yeah you'd have no chance, but since they're gone

2) They have a terrible coach. Sure Wojo hasn't proven anything at this level yet, but at least he hasn't proven to be terrible like Jones has.

[MUchamp22]

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St L
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier W
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler L
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence L
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton L
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown W
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Non-conference Record: 10-3
Conference Record: 10-9
Total Record: 20-12

I think this is a very realistic record for this schedule. However, I think the most important game is the Wisconsin game. This is because it is our teams first true road test in a tough environment if they come together in that game and battle (they don't even have to win) I think it will be a huge confidence booster going forward. There will be a couple disappointing losses like home vs. Providence or at Creighton, but that is par for the course. I think at Creighton is the biggest trap game on the schedule because we could easily look forward to the big matchup with Nova. Overall, I think it is a good season. They are in the discussion for the tourney, but no one thinks they were totally snubbed when they aren't in. Get a solid seed in the NIT and then anything can happen. A pretty good stepping stone for Wojo's second season though.

[Galway Eagle]

1) I don't think LSU has that much talent outside of Simmons if Martin or Mickey were still around yeah you'd have no chance, but since they're gone

2) They have a terrible coach. Sure Wojo hasn't proven anything at this level yet, but at least he hasn't proven to be terrible like Jones has.

Blakeny who's a freshmen was a McDonald's AA (rated higher than Nova's Jalen Brunson) plus they bring in top 100 Brandon Sampson. You obviously mentioned Simmons and that'll be one heck of a great matchup watching the two best PFs go at it.

Top returning scorers this year are SR Keith Hornsby with 13.5 and Former top 100 now JR Tim Quartermen scored 11.5ppg last year.

Former top 100 Elbert Robinson is now experienced and may take the next step. Soph and likely backup guard Jalyn Patterson scored 7ppg last year. Another backup guard SR Josh Gray put up 7ppg.

Four of their starters will likely be two McDonald's all Americans and two players that averaged over 10ppg. Plus their two backups averaged 7.  Compare that to us we'll start two players who averaged in doubles and one all American. And neither of our backups averaged what Patterson and Gray did.

You've got me on the coaching argument though I maintain it seems weird to say we'll beat LSU and not take one game against you Nova X or Butler.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My gut reaction:

Nov 13 - v Belmont L
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier W
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler W
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton L
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown L
Mar 5 - @ Butler W

Non-conference Record: 10-3
Conference Record: 11-7
Total Record: 21-10

A lot more optimistic than maybe I should be. A lot of the conference home games I have as wins could easily be losses. My boldest pick is sweeping butler. I think we match up really well with them. Belmont, Iowa, LSU, Arizona state, Wisconsin and nc state are all teams capable of beating us. We could easily go 0-5 in our quality non conference games. I have us going 2-3

[wadesworld]

Blakeny who's a freshmen was a McDonald's AA (rated higher than Nova's Jalen Brunson) plus they bring in top 100 Brandon Sampson. You obviously mentioned Simmons and that'll be one heck of a great matchup watching the two best PFs go at it.

Top returning scorers this year are SR Keith Hornsby with 13.5 and Former top 100 now JR Tim Quartermen scored 11.5ppg last year.

Former top 100 Elbert Robinson is now experienced and may take the next step. Soph and likely backup guard Jalyn Patterson scored 7ppg last year. Another backup guard SR Josh Gray put up 7ppg.

Four of their starters will likely be two McDonald's all Americans and two players that averaged over 10ppg. Plus their two backups averaged 7.  Compare that to us we'll start two players who averaged in doubles and one all American. And neither of our backups averaged what Patterson and Gray did.

You've got me on the coaching argument though I maintain it seems weird to say we'll beat LSU and not take one game against you Nova X or Butler.

We didn't even go 0-8 against those 4 teams last year.  No way in hell it's happening this year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We didn't even go 0-8 against those 4 teams last year.  No way in hell it's happening this year.

....We went 0-9 against those teams last year. We only beat providence, Creighton, DePaul, and seton hall.

[hoyasincebirth]

Blakeny who's a freshmen was a McDonald's AA (rated higher than Nova's Jalen Brunson) plus they bring in top 100 Brandon Sampson. You obviously mentioned Simmons and that'll be one heck of a great matchup watching the two best PFs go at it.

Top returning scorers this year are SR Keith Hornsby with 13.5 and Former top 100 now JR Tim Quartermen scored 11.5ppg last year.

Former top 100 Elbert Robinson is now experienced and may take the next step. Soph and likely backup guard Jalyn Patterson scored 7ppg last year. Another backup guard SR Josh Gray put up 7ppg.

Four of their starters will likely be two McDonald's all Americans and two players that averaged over 10ppg. Plus their two backups averaged 7.  Compare that to us we'll start two players who averaged in doubles and one all American. And neither of our backups averaged what Patterson and Gray did.

You've got me on the coaching argument though I maintain it seems weird to say we'll beat LSU and not take one game against you Nova X or Butler.

I fully aware of all their players, I'm just not that impressed. Don't get me wrong it will be a good win if you can get it, but I think Marquette is up to the challenge. I view LSU as a fringe top 25 team. I view Georgetown, Nova, Butler, and X as top 15/20 teams.

And obviously with regards to who I have you beating in conference compared to out of conference. Since I'm a BE homer, I always tend to overate the BE teams OOC. And in conference Obviously more likely than not Marquette will win a game or 2 they should lose like against Us, Nova, X or Butler but will also likely lose a game they should win like @ creighton or vs. Seton Hall or something. I tend to just go with the better teams winning the games rather than try and guess which upsets will happen.

[Galway Eagle]

I fully aware of all their players, I'm just not that impressed. Don't get me wrong it will be a good win if you can get it, but I think Marquette is up to the challenge. I view LSU as a fringe top 25 team. I view Georgetown, Nova, Butler, and X as top 15/20 teams.

And obviously with regards to who I have you beating in conference compared to out of conference. Since I'm a BE homer, I always tend to overate the BE teams OOC. And in conference Obviously more likely than not Marquette will win a game or 2 they should lose like against Us, Nova, X or Butler but will also likely lose a game they should win like @ creighton or vs. Seton Hall or something. I tend to just go with the better teams winning the games rather than try and guess which upsets will happen.

To each their own I just think you either vastly underestimate their talent having 4 former top 100s or vastly overrate ours (though I suppose we have 6 former top 100s).

I also think you're too high on butler. Their front court will be at best ok. So I think that MU splits that with fisher ellanson dominating a game and jones and Dunham dominating the other.

[wadesworld]

....We went 0-9 against those teams last year. We only beat providence, Creighton, DePaul, and seton hall.

Forgot we threw away all our chances.  We had Xavier and Butler beat, but then we didn't.

Oh well, I'm still predicting 0-2 against Nova, 1-1 against Butler and Xavier, and 2-0 against Georgetown.

[PGsHeroes32]

Anyone going to tell me why they think the clowns show in looks(uthoff) and actions(Woodbury) coached by a bad version of Bo(mcCaffery) is going to come into our house and win?

[Galway Eagle]

Anyone going to tell me why they think the clowns show in looks(uthoff) and actions(Woodbury) coached by a bad version of Bo(mcCaffery) is going to come into our house and win?

I pretty much agree with your assessment I'm more worried about Belmont than Iowa. 

[wadesworld]

Alright Everyone is entitled to their predictions

But why in the hell are so many people picking Iowa?

I will be truly disappointed if we lose that game.

More worried about Belmont.

I think we go 10-2(11 once we play Stetson) in non conference by losing to wisco(sadly) and 1 in Brooklyn.

Then I'll temper expectations with a 10-8 conference(hoping for 11-7).

I pretty much agree with your assessment I'm more worried about Belmont than Iowa.

Belmont would finish in the bottom 4 of the B1G every single year.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Anyone going to tell me why they think the clowns show in looks(uthoff) and actions(Woodbury) coached by a bad version of Bo(mcCaffery) is going to come into our house and win?

Because they were ranked almost 100 spots higher than us in kenpom last season and they only lost 42% of their offense whereas we lost 56%. Now we bring in a much better recruiting class but you are underestimating Iowa. They will be in the top half of the B1G and probably make the tourney. They also have WAY more experience. All that being said, I picked us to win because I like how we match up. But this will be an upset win, not a walk in the park like you seem to think it will be

[Galway Eagle]

Belmont would finish in the bottom 4 of the B1G every single year.

While I disagree with that because they'd have access to the recruiting resources of the B1G and have a great coach, I respect your opinion. That being said Belmont is a very experienced team and is very early. If it were later on I wouldn't think it was a huge game but it's because of when not who.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Forgot we threw away all our chances.  We had Xavier and Butler beat, but then we didn't.

Oh well, I'm still predicting 0-2 against Nova, 1-1 against Butler and Xavier, and 2-0 against Georgetown.

I'm 0-4 versus nova and gtwn, 3-1 against X and Butler

[PGsHeroes32]

Because they were ranked almost 100 spots higher than us in kenpom last season and they only lost 42% of their offense whereas we lost 56%. Now we bring in a much better recruiting class but you are underestimating Iowa. They will be in the top half of the B1G and probably make the tourney. They also have WAY more experience. All that being said, I picked us to win because I like how we match up. But this will be an upset win, not a walk in the park like you seem to think it will be

We lost Carlino, Derrick and Juan. They lost Aaron White a 4 year star lol.

I'm not saying it's a walk in the park. I'm saying its a far easier and more inexcusable loss than LsU or AT Wisconsin which for some reason people are picking us to win.

I watched Iowa play about 15 times last year. I know exactly what they have coming back.

A loss would be disappointing.

[JakeBarnes]

I'm 0-4 versus nova and gtwn, 3-1 against X and Butler

I'm going perfect season. It's the offseason, so forget pragmatic statements. Marquette will treat the NCAA like they treated Sam Basket Massagno.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm not saying it's a walk in the park. I'm saying its a far easier and more inexcusable loss than LsU or AT Wisconsin which for some reason people are picking us to win.

A loss would be disappointing.

Exactly one person (hoyasincebirth) has picked us to beat lsu. Exactly one person has picked us to beat Wisconsin (brewcity).  A lot more people have picked us to beat Iowa. Iowa is a solid team. Losing to them would hurt but would be far from disappointing. They would qualify as a good loss by tournament committee standards

[Galway Eagle]

Exactly one person (hoyasincebirth) has picked us to beat lsu. Exactly one person has picked us to beat Wisconsin (brewcity).  A lot more people have picked us to beat Iowa. Iowa is a solid team. Losing to them would hurt but would be far from disappointing. They would qualify as a good loss by tournament committee standards

I'm adding my name to the beat Wisconsin crowd. This is a predominantly Wisconsin based Marquette team that I think will be hungry that game.

[brewcity77]

I'm adding my name to the beat Wisconsin crowd. This is a predominantly Wisconsin based Marquette team that I think will be hungry that game.

I think that will help too. I know it's near sacrilege for anyone to bet against Bo, but I think part of the reason he stayed was because he knew this would be a down year, and if Gard was going to get the job (decent chance of interim had Bo left in late June/early July) he was going to struggle.

I like Hayes. I think he's going to be a great player next year. I don't like Koenig, but he's also a very good player. And maybe Happ pans out for them. But Vitto Brown is a pure stone. He's not a guy like Kaminsky or Leuer that showed flashes before emerging as good players, he's a guy that's sucked for two years and will play simply because the roster is thin. Showalter is scrappy and all, but he's no Josh Gasser. And there's no one else on that roster that I have any faith will give regular, quality contributions next year.

I see Wisconsin fighting to be a top-half Big 10 team. Call me crazy, but I think 8-5 non-conference (losses to Georgetown (n), VCU (n), at Oklahoma, at Syracuse, Marquette) and within a game of .500 in conference. They have a very tough conference schedule (H/H with Maryland, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana) and a very thin roster.

Maybe three of Van Vliet, Illikainen, Pritzl, and Thomas will be enough of stud freshmen to give 15+ quality minutes off the bench as true freshmen, with one of them stepping up as a 25 mpg, 10 ppg, 5 rpg type guy from day one. I just don't see that. Bo has never won anything with kids. For Wisconsin to make the NCAA Tournament, in my opinion, would take Bo's greatest ever effort as a coach.

Go ahead, call me crazy. And the last time I doubted them (2011, when Leuer and Nankivil left before Berggren became the next rotating door Bo big) they proved me wrong. But I'll go out on the limb and say Wisconsin misses the tourney and has their worst season since Bo arrived.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin W
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier W
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's W
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler W
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton W
Feb 27 - v Villanova W
Mar 1 - v Georgetown L
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Non-conference Record: 12-1
Conference Record: 12-6
Total Record: 24-7 headed to the BET, and playing solely for seeding.

I am drinkin' the KOOLAID!  In reality, they'll probably be closer to 20-11 than 24-7, but I just couldn't mark down that many Ls.  I do think this will be a fun season, tho.

[Galway Eagle]

I think that will help too. I know it's near sacrilege for anyone to bet against Bo, but I think part of the reason he stayed was because he knew this would be a down year, and if Gard was going to get the job (decent chance of interim had Bo left in late June/early July) he was going to struggle.

I like Hayes. I think he's going to be a great player next year. I don't like Koenig, but he's also a very good player. And maybe Happ pans out for them. But Vitto Brown is a pure stone. He's not a guy like Kaminsky or Leuer that showed flashes before emerging as good players, he's a guy that's sucked for two years and will play simply because the roster is thin. Showalter is scrappy and all, but he's no Josh Gasser. And there's no one else on that roster that I have any faith will give regular, quality contributions next year.

I see Wisconsin fighting to be a top-half Big 10 team. Call me crazy, but I think 8-5 non-conference (losses to Georgetown (n), VCU (n), at Oklahoma, at Syracuse, Marquette) and within a game of .500 in conference. They have a very tough conference schedule (H/H with Maryland, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana) and a very thin roster.

Maybe three of Van Vliet, Illikainen, Pritzl, and Thomas will be enough of stud freshmen to give 15+ quality minutes off the bench as true freshmen, with one of them stepping up as a 25 mpg, 10 ppg, 5 rpg type guy from day one. I just don't see that. Bo has never won anything with kids. For Wisconsin to make the NCAA Tournament, in my opinion, would take Bo's greatest ever effort as a coach.

Go ahead, call me crazy. And the last time I doubted them (2011, when Leuer and Nankivil left before Berggren became the next rotating door Bo big) they proved me wrong. But I'll go out on the limb and say Wisconsin misses the tourney and has their worst season since Bo arrived.

About the way I see it. With our added bonus of some emotion from fisher, Wilson, Cohen, both ellansons, heldt, heck even sacar probably hates UW since he's from Minnesota.  By the way when was the last time we had more players from Wisconsin than Wisconsin did? Are we gonna be the new Wisconsin team?!

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

About the way I see it. With our added bonus of some emotion from fisher, Wilson, Cohen, both ellansons, heldt, heck even sacar probably hates UW since he's from Minnesota.  By the way when was the last time we had more players from Wisconsin than Wisconsin did? Are we gonna be the new Wisconsin team?!

I understand why people think Marquette could win based on talent and a number of the other factors mentioned above.  I just don't think Wisconsin-based emotion is one of them.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Exactly one person (hoyasincebirth) has picked us to beat lsu. Exactly one person has picked us to beat Wisconsin (brewcity).  A lot more people have picked us to beat Iowa. Iowa is a solid team. Losing to them would hurt but would be far from disappointing. They would qualify as a good loss by tournament committee standards

I may need to take this back as we are up to three Wisconsin victory predictors

[wadesworld]

I understand why people think Marquette could win based on talent and a number of the other factors mentioned above.  I just don't think Wisconsin-based emotion is one of them.

Thank you.  You are a smart man.

[PGsHeroes32]

Exactly one person (hoyasincebirth) has picked us to beat lsu. Exactly one person has picked us to beat Wisconsin (brewcity).  A lot more people have picked us to beat Iowa. Iowa is a solid team. Losing to them would hurt but would be far from disappointing. They would qualify as a good loss by tournament committee standards

No they won't lol. It's at home. A "good loss" by committee standards is losing at home to ranked teams usually well into the top 20.

And this is all assuming Iowa even solidlly makes the tourney.

[tower912]

I may have the most negative prediction going.   I said Iowa was going to be a loss for the same reason I was pessimistic about the rest.    4 returning players off of a bad team.   5 freshmen being counted on for major contributions.   10 scholarship players.    May I be completely wrong.   May I have to eat crow tartare, crow a la mode, buffalo crow wings etc.    I simply cannot trust that everything is going to be OK and that this is a 20 win team.   I HOPE it will be.   Nothing would make be happier than being proven so wrong that I am shamed for life.      But until I see it on the court against other high-level D1 schools, I'm not buying. 

[wadesworld]

I may have the most negative prediction going.   I said Iowa was going to be a loss for the same reason I was pessimistic about the rest.    4 returning players off of a bad team.   5 freshmen being counted on for major contributions.   10 scholarship players.    May I be completely wrong.   May I have to eat crow tartare, crow a la mode, buffalo crow wings etc.    I simply cannot trust that everything is going to be OK and that this is a 20 win team.   I HOPE it will be.   Nothing would make be happier than being proven so wrong that I am shamed for life.      But until I see it on the court against other high-level D1 schools, I'm not buying.

Doubting Thomas didn't believe until he saw either. Oops.

[tower912]

May I be proven as wrong as he was. 

[Jay Bee]

Iowa is very good and has lots of experience at the top of their lineup

Don't sleep on Dale Jones either (Jimmy & Joe's JUCO).

Uthoff, Woodbury, Gesell, Clemmons all seniors with experience...

Jok and Uhl have gotten a good taste.

My boi Andrew Fleming comes into the fold this year as a frosh..

...oh yeah, and Brady.

Tough team. If they stay healthy they can impress in the Big Ten.

[PGsHeroes32]

Iowa is very good and has lots of experience at the top of their lineup

Don't sleep on Dale Jones either (Jimmy & Joe's JUCO).

Uthoff, Woodbury, Gesell, Clemmons all seniors with experience...

Jok and Uhl have gotten a good taste.

My boi Andrew Fleming comes into the fold this year as a frosh..

...oh yeah, and Brady.

Tough team. If they stay healthy they can impress in the Big Ten.

Jok and Uthoff are good. Woodbury has value but is a dbag.

Gesell sucks. Pretty sure most Iowa fans are looking forward to him being gone. And Clemens is streaky.

If we can guard uthoff wen are a ok.

It's just weird that I'm seeing a lot of overall positive season predictions on here(us getting 22-24 wins) and doing well in the BE. But a Iowa home loss is being heavily picked.

I feel if we lose the Iowa game it's because we end up being worse than a lot of us optimists are believing and more of a NIT team.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It's just weird that I'm seeing a lot of overall positive season predictions on here(us getting 22-24 wins) and doing well in the BE. But a Iowa home loss is being heavily picked.

I feel if we lose the Iowa game it's because we end up being worse than a lot of us optimists are believing and more of a NIT team.

Literally two people have picked Iowa to win.  Two. That's not heavy at all

[PGsHeroes32]

Literally two people have picked Iowa to win.  Two. That's not heavy at all

You eating paint chips?

The first 4 people all picked Iowa lol.

I stopped there to avoid pouring salt on the wounds.

[hdog1017]

Chose 19-12 or worse. 

I think Wojo is a good recruiter but not a good coach.  I hope he proves me wrong on my second point. 

[MUfan12]

I think Wojo is a good recruiter but not a good coach.

So the key to proving you're a good coach is winning with 8 scholarship guys, 7 of which you didn't recruit?



You might end up being right, but last season proves nothing in that regard.

[MU82]

I'm going to hold off on my predictions until I see how healthy we are -- and how un-transferred from we are! -- a few days before our first game.

I mean, two years ago at this time, we thought McKay was gonna be a stud for us.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You eating paint chips?

The first 4 people all picked Iowa lol.

I stopped there to avoid pouring salt on the wounds.

I did miss one. It was three not four. Brewcity, dgies, and litehouse. Everyone since has picked Iowa to lose.

Please don't resort to insults to make a point. It takes away from your argument

[g0lden3agle]

I did miss one. It was three not four. Brewcity, dgies, and litehouse. Everyone since has picked Iowa to lose.

Please don't resort to insults to make a point. It takes away from your argument

Tower's was slipped in there as a quote as well.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Tower's was slipped in there as a quote as well.

You are right, I was wrong. I thought tower was just quoting brews post. That is my mistake. Still, a majority have picked us to win and those who have picked us to lose have given sound reasoning why they think that

[jsglow]

For the easy answer, just go ahead with the poll question. If you want more detail, here's the full schedule to either quote or copy and paste:

Nov 13 - v Belmont W
Nov 16 - v IUPUI W
Nov 19 - v Iowa W
Nov 23 - LSU L
Nov 24 - NC State/Arizona St W
Nov 29 - v Jackson State W
Dec 2 - v Grambling W
Dec 5 - v Maine W
Dec 8 - v San Jose State W
Dec 12 - @ Wisconsin L
Dec 21 - v Chicago State W
Dec 27 - v Presbyterian W
Dec 30 - v Seton Hall W
Jan 2 - @ Georgetown L
Jan 5 - @ Providence L
Jan 9 - v St. John's W
Jan 13 - @ Villanova L
Jan 16 - v Xavier L
Jan 20 - v DePaul W
Jan 23 - @ St. John's L
Jan 27 - v Stetson W
Jan 30 - v Butler W
Feb 3 - @ Seton Hall W
Feb 6 - @ Xavier L
Feb 10 - v Providence W
Feb 13 - v Creighton W
Feb 20 - @ DePaul W
Feb 24 - @ Creighton W
Feb 27 - v Villanova L
Mar 1 - v Georgetown W
Mar 5 - @ Butler L

Non-conference Record: 11-2
Conference Record: 10-8
Total Record: 21-10

I think we will be a much better team this year but I personally believe that there's still much growth necessary.  Last year's team lost almost 20 times.  I'll say we'll reverse that to get 21 wins prior to the Big East Tournament.  I'll speculate that we go 1-1 in NYC and get into the NCAA as about a #10 seed.  I'm predicting 2 Freshman driven 'mistake games'; a home loss to Xavier and a road loss to the Johnnies.  I'm also predicting two 'quality' wins including both Butler and GTown at home.

[PGsHeroes32]

I did miss one. It was three not four. Brewcity, dgies, and litehouse. Everyone since has picked Iowa to lose.

Please don't resort to insults to make a point. It takes away from your argument

It was less of an insult and more of an inquiry on how you found your conclusion.

Plus, my initial post on why so many people were picking Iowa...was back on the 1st page when just about everyone was in fact picking Iowa.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It was less of an insult and more of an inquiry on how you found your conclusion.

Plus, my initial post on why so many people were picking Iowa...was back on the 1st page when just about everyone was in fact picking Iowa.

Ah the old I didnt call you an idiot, I just implied that you do things only an idiot would do argument. It's a classic.

I'm sorry hh, I did miss two posts that make your initial comment make more sense. When I made my comment later I was looking at the whole thread

[tower912]

I may have the most negative prediction going.   I said Iowa was going to be a loss for the same reason I was pessimistic about the rest.    4 returning players off of a bad team.   5 freshmen being counted on for major contributions.   10 scholarship players.    May I be completely wrong.   May I have to eat crow tartare, crow a la mode, buffalo crow wings etc.    I simply cannot trust that everything is going to be OK and that this is a 20 win team.   I HOPE it will be.   Nothing would make be happier than being proven so wrong that I am shamed for life.      But until I see it on the court against other high-level D1 schools, I'm not buying.

Bump.   

[WarriorPride68]

Bump.   

Thanks for bumping. This thread is glorious.

[MUFlutieEffect]

Thanks for bumping. This thread is glorious.

Looks like there wasn't a single Scooper predicting a 1-2 start...

[MerrittsMustache]

Looks like there wasn't a single Scooper predicting a 1-2 start...

Tower did.

Why do you think he bumped this thread? 

[tower912]

 

[MUFlutieEffect]

My apologies, Sire - well done.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

12-1 OOC record sounds pretty damn good right now.

[dgies9156]

Just burn this thread

[mubb3434]

I still think we go 11-3 in non-conference and 9-9 in conference play. Puts us at 20-12 going into the Big East Tournament.