Author Topic: General College Basketball Thread 2020-2021 (Read 156430 times)

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #1025 on:** March 13, 2021, 05:13:21 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 13, 2021, 05:06:12 PM

I wonder if one of Iona's long term goals with hiring Rick would be a conference upgrade. They would be a smallish A10 school, but would be larger than both St. Bonaventure and Davidson.

Rick is a helluva coach. Always has been.

To your point, some 1 seed is going to get Iona and be at least a little nervous.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #1026 on:** March 13, 2021, 05:27:45 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 13, 2021, 05:06:12 PM

I wonder if one of Iona's long term goals with hiring Rick would be a conference upgrade. They would be a smallish A10 school, but would be larger than both St. Bonaventure and Davidson.

Rick is a helluva coach. Always has been.

Iona recently bought a well respected small nearby school in the Concordia System with incredible real estate . They are going to turn that into a health sciences campus. They are definitely upgrading from an academic perspective. Give them some time to integrate that acquisition and build their academic reputation and it might be possible to move up. Right now they are well positioned in the MAAC.

JWags85 · « **Reply #1027 on:** March 13, 2021, 05:45:36 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 13, 2021, 05:06:12 PM

I wonder if one of Iona's long term goals with hiring Rick would be a conference upgrade. They would be a smallish A10 school, but would be larger than both St. Bonaventure and Davidson.

Rick is a helluva coach. Always has been.

I never realized how tiny St Bonaventure was. I will say, I wonder if their gym is a barrier for A10 admission. It only seats about 2500. Davidson and St B both have arenas double that size. Duquesne and Fordham have the smallest gyms at 3500, but one is a founding member and the other is a historic gym and a school that gave stability and a NYC presence when Rutgers left the conference in 1995.

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #1028 on:** March 13, 2021, 05:56:00 PM »

Brad Underwood has locked up a #1 seed in his fourth year. He's getting key contributions from two seniors, his first team AA is a junior, one of his sophomores was named first team All Big Ten, and one of his freshmen was named Sixth Man of the Year (another is a starter).

Again, rebuilding doesn't have to be the long drawn out process some have made it out to be. He had two crappy years, then they were bound for the tourney last year and obviously improved in year four.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #1029 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:02:13 PM »

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 13, 2021, 05:56:00 PM

Brad Underwood has locked up a #1 seed in his fourth year. He's getting key contributions from two seniors, his first team AA is a junior, one of his sophomores was named first team All Big Ten, and one of his freshmen was named Sixth Man of the Year (another is a starter).

Again, rebuilding doesn't have to be the long drawn out process some have made it out to be. He had two crappy years, then they were bound for the tourney last year and obviously improved in year four.

Yep. Oats and Mussleman have also done well in the SEC.

wisblue · « **Reply #1030 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:07:36 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2021, 02:15:39 PM

Wow. I didn't understand that last offensive possession by Michigan. Almost an incredible comeback.

It was a bad possession, but it might have been different if either Livers or Wagner had been available.

Two weeks ago Michigan looked like a Final Four contender and now they look like a candidate for a first weekend exit.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #1031 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 13, 2021, 05:56:00 PM

Brad Underwood has locked up a #1 seed in his fourth year. He's getting key contributions from two seniors, his first team AA is a junior, one of his sophomores was named first team All Big Ten, and one of his freshmen was named Sixth Man of the Year (another is a starter).

Again, rebuilding doesn't have to be the long drawn out process some have made it out to be. He had two crappy years, then they were bound for the tourney last year and obviously improved in year four.

3 to 4 years is a very reasonable timeline for a rebuild

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #1032 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:11:32 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2021, 06:02:13 PM

Yep. Oats and Mussleman have also done well in the SEC.

Indeed. And Crean was in the Final Four in his fourth year (with his own players), and Buzz's S16-S16-E8 started in his third year (with his own players).

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #1033 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:16:37 PM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 13, 2021, 06:08:26 PM

3 to 4 years is a very reasonable timeline for a rebuild

Especially considering Underwood actually took over a dumpster fire (if Wojo took over a dumpster fire, I can't imagine what y'all are gonna call what the next guy has to inherit from Wojo).

It took until year five for Wojo to get a single top 25 vote. Big red flag. You gotta build on the fly these days in CBB.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #1034 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:30:54 PM »

Quote from: wisblue on March 13, 2021, 06:07:36 PM

It was a bad possession, but it might have been different if either Livers or Wagner had been available.

Two weeks ago Michigan looked like a Final Four contender and now they look like a candidate for a first weekend exit.

I think they'll be alright although the Livers injury is an issue. Illinois and Michigan have a real shot imo.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #1035 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:32:36 PM »

I haven't watched the SEC too much. How good is Alabama?

MuggsyB · « **Reply #1036 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:34:28 PM »

Cunningham looks like the 1st pick to me. Will he play PG like Doncic in the NBA? He's got a lot of versatility in his game.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #1037 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:36:42 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2021, 06:32:36 PM

I haven't watched the SEC too much. How good is Alabama?

They play fast.

They shoot a ton of 3s otherwise get it to the rack.

Silent Verbal · « **Reply #1038 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 13, 2021, 05:56:00 PM

Brad Underwood has locked up a #1 seed in his fourth year. He's getting key contributions from two seniors, his first team AA is a junior, one of his sophomores was named first team All Big Ten, and one of his freshmen was named Sixth Man of the Year (another is a starter).

Again, rebuilding doesn't have to be the long drawn out process some have made it out to be. He had two crappy years, then they were bound for the tourney last year and obviously improved in year four.

In previous years, you would’ve heard any number of “buts” from the usual suspects, with a few even saying things like, “Well, Underwood didn’t make the tournament until his (x)th season as a head coach. Wojo is still learning.” People actually used this logic to compare Wojo to Jay Wright. Laughable.

At least everybody seems to be on the same page now.

Warriors4ever · « **Reply #1039 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:40:47 PM »

U if I is my second team, got my law degree there . Lou Henson had just arrived, every year he came over before the season started for a lunch discussion about the upcoming season. He was always personable and gracious about it, better than the football coach though Illinois had horrible years while I was there.
So at least I have one alma mater to root for. I was at the game in Rosemont when they beat Arizona to go to the Final Four, one of the best games I ever attended.
And in 2003 they played and lost to Notre Dame in the first game the same day we beat Missouri. I came close to seeing both my teams lose which would have been horrible. I had my Illinois shirt over my MU shirt for the first game, and a Marquette cap on. The cheerleaders arrived early and were passing out stuff to the MU fans and the one by us did a double-take when she saw me lol
Go Illini!

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #1040 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:47:48 PM »

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2021, 06:34:28 PM

Cunningham looks like the 1st pick to me. Will he play PG like Doncic in the NBA? He's got a lot of versatility in his game.

Improved their defensive dramatically versus last year. Oats is the real deal as a coach.

Small Orange Soda · « **Reply #1041 on:** March 13, 2021, 07:12:59 PM »

Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 13, 2021, 06:39:46 PM

In previous years, you would’ve heard any number of “buts” from the usual suspects, with a few even saying things like, “Well, Underwood didn’t make the tournament until his (x)th season as a head coach. Wojo is still learning.” People actually used this logic to compare Wojo to Jay Wright. Laughable.

At least everybody seems to be on the same page now.

Umm, have you not seen Coach K's record at Army???

Silent Verbal · « **Reply #1042 on:** March 13, 2021, 07:24:55 PM »

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 13, 2021, 07:12:59 PM

Umm, have you not seen Coach K's record at Army???

If this was Reddit, I’d say, “Have an upvote.”

Billy Hoyle · « **Reply #1043 on:** March 13, 2021, 07:26:51 PM »

Shaka winning Big 12 tourney: done deal.

The first Texas school to win the Big 12 tourney, ever.

MuggsyB · « **Reply #1044 on:** March 13, 2021, 07:29:17 PM »

Ohio up 20 at the half on Buffalo. I'm really hoping they get in because they have a terrific PG in Jason Preston. That's not a team 3 seeds are gonna want to see on the 14 line.