Author Topic: General College Basketball Thread 2020-2021 (Read 156432 times)

wadesworld · « **Reply #550 on:** February 14, 2021, 04:28:40 PM »

Quote from: cheese ball chaser on February 14, 2021, 04:20:49 PM

Looking for some other teams to follow that don't suck. Any recommendations? I'm thinking Loyola Marymount, Loyola Chicago and Illinois.

The NBA. College basketball sucks, outside of Butler and Gonzaga, who just curbstomp everyone.

Mr. Nielsen · « **Reply #551 on:** February 14, 2021, 05:06:04 PM »

Gonzaga, Baylor or the field?

I'll roll the dice and take the field.

cheese ball chaser · « **Reply #552 on:** February 14, 2021, 05:10:40 PM »

Quote from: BLM on February 14, 2021, 04:28:40 PM

The NBA. College basketball sucks, outside of Butler and Gonzaga, who just curbstomp everyone.

Butler? What? Baylor?

MU82 · « **Reply #553 on:** February 14, 2021, 05:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2021, 03:35:04 PM

Angry people looking for a scapegoat will invariably find one.

Very true. We certainly saw that here with Markus.

That, of course, doesn't mean Joey has been good for Michigan State. He hasn't been ... and he doesn't even have Markus and/or Wojo to blame it on anymore.

JWags85 · « **Reply #554 on:** February 14, 2021, 05:48:43 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 14, 2021, 05:06:04 PM

Gonzaga, Baylor or the field?

I'll roll the dice and take the field.

Most years, this is the move, but I’ve not seen anyone remotely in the same class as those two. Since the WVU game, nobody has stayed with Gonzaga remotely close. Baylor has been steamrolling good teams regularly

wadesworld · « **Reply #555 on:** February 14, 2021, 05:59:20 PM »

Quote from: cheese ball chaser on February 14, 2021, 05:10:40 PM

Butler? What? Baylor?

Yes, Baylor. Sorry.

VegasWarrior77 · « **Reply #556 on:** February 14, 2021, 07:05:14 PM »

Floppy motivated Michigan:

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/universitymichigan/wolverines/2021/02/14/michigan-basketball-juwan-howard-wisconsin-badgers/4484411001/

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #557 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:01:55 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 14, 2021, 05:06:04 PM

Gonzaga, Baylor or the field?

I'll roll the dice and take the field.

Gonzaga and Baylor are lapping college basketball right now. The analytical difference between them and the rest is unseen before. Michigan is closing in on them but are still far away. Single elimination tournaments always say take the field, though.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #558 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:03:31 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2021, 05:15:31 PM

Very true. We certainly saw that here with Markus.

That, of course, doesn't mean Joey has been good for Michigan State. He hasn't been ... and he doesn't even have Markus and/or Wojo to blame it on anymore.

Izzo has taken the Coach K approach to coaching in that he isn’t doing any. When he has a lot of talent, they win a lot. When they don’t, he isn’t out coaching anyone anymore

tower912 · « **Reply #559 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:45:15 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2021, 05:03:31 PM

Izzo has taken the Coach K approach to coaching in that he isn’t doing any. When he has a lot of talent, they win a lot. When they don’t, he isn’t out coaching anyone anymore

Balderdash. Last year's team relied on Tillman and Winston for leadership. This team does not have a leader or a point guard. The team also had a terribly disjointed off-season as well as a disjointed season. A bad combination for a team that was always going to need time to gel.

CountryRoads · « **Reply #560 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:47:13 PM »

Jalen Johnson quits Duke. That should be the end of them this year.

Billy Hoyle · « **Reply #561 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:47:17 PM »

On the subject of Coach K...

Per Goodman, Jalen Johnson opting out of the rest of the season.

Silent Verbal · « **Reply #562 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:49:32 PM »

He was gonna be a one and done anyways. Not much point playing out the string and risking injury for a team that’s going nowhere.

But hey, maybe he just had a really difficult Econ exam to study for.

tower912 · « **Reply #563 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:51:32 PM »

Hopefully it was personal ECON, as he is about to get paid.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #564 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:52:20 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2021, 05:01:55 PM

Gonzaga and Baylor are lapping college basketball right now. The analytical difference between them and the rest is unseen before. Michigan is closing in on them but are still far away. Single elimination tournaments always say take the field, though.

Agree all around, especially the last part.

The gap between Gonzaga/Baylor and the next tier is significant...but it's nowhere near the gap between 2018 UVa and UMBC, 2016 Michigan State and MTSU, 2012 Duke and Lehigh, etc, etc. When it's win or go home, you just never know.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #565 on:** February 15, 2021, 06:08:35 PM »

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 15, 2021, 05:47:17 PM

On the subject of Coach K...

Per Goodman, Jalen Johnson opting out of the rest of the season.

Whew, we dodged a bullet there when Johnson opted for Duke. We don't need the publicity of another recruit bolting Marquette's program, aina?

tower912 · « **Reply #566 on:** February 15, 2021, 06:10:46 PM »

Did he write a letter?

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #567 on:** February 15, 2021, 06:32:32 PM »

Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2021, 05:45:15 PM

Balderdash. Last year's team relied on Tillman and Winston for leadership. This team does not have a leader or a point guard. The team also had a terribly disjointed off-season as well as a disjointed season. A bad combination for a team that was always going to need time to gel.

The coach puts the roster together. Villanova seems to have overcome a disjointed season(s) and so have plenty of other teams. They’ve gotten progressively worse as the season has gone along.

The cult of the coach needs to end at these premier programs. He’s been a failure this year and quite frankly, he’s been a bad coach in game for awhile

JWags85 · « **Reply #568 on:** February 15, 2021, 06:58:01 PM »

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 15, 2021, 05:52:20 PM

Agree all around, especially the last part.

The gap between Gonzaga/Baylor and the next tier is significant...but it's nowhere near the gap between 2018 UVa and UMBC, 2016 Michigan State and MTSU, 2012 Duke and Lehigh, etc, etc. When it's win or go home, you just never know.

FWIW, MSU and Duke in those years were 2 seeds, not top 5 teams, much less the unquestioned top 2 teams.

UVA is always vulnerable given how few points they score, limited possessions always allow a lesser team to stay closer. That UVA team was very good but lost to WVU in non con and actually snuck by BC and Cuse early in the ACC season and benefited from a relatively soft ACC that year. They weren’t absolutely shellacking anyone and everyone in their path like Gonzaga and Baylor.

Anything can happen with one and done and college kids, but both Gonzaga and Baylor are significantly ahead of all 3 of those teams you listed

brewcity77 · « **Reply #569 on:** February 15, 2021, 07:00:19 PM »

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 15, 2021, 05:47:13 PM

Jalen Johnson quits Duke. That should be the end of them this year.

Duke as a team seemed to opt out of the season months ago, hard to blame anyone for bailing at this point.

tower912 · « **Reply #570 on:** February 15, 2021, 07:22:01 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

The coach puts the roster together. Villanova seems to have overcome a disjointed season(s) and so have plenty of other teams. They’ve gotten progressively worse as the season has gone along.

The cult of the coach needs to end at these premier programs. He’s been a failure this year and quite frankly, he’s been a bad coach in game for awhile

In 2019, he was a freaking genius getting that roster and rotation to the final four. I have to respectfully disagree.

Young team with new players and old players in new roles. Watts was supposed to be a PG but did not develop in the off-season. Langford has never returned to what he was before the foot injury. About 6 guys at the 4-5 with nobody seizing it

I guarantee with a normal off-season that they are back where they should be next year.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #571 on:** February 15, 2021, 07:25:13 PM »

Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2021, 07:22:01 PM

In 2019, he was a freaking genius getting that roster and rotation to the final four. I have to respectfully disagree.

Young team with new players and old players in new roles. Watts was supposed to be a PG but did not develop in the off-season. Langford has never returned to what he was before the foot injury. About 6 guys at the 4-5 with nobody seizing it

I guarantee with a normal off-season that they are back where they should be next year.

I agree to disagree 🙂

tower912 · « **Reply #572 on:** February 15, 2021, 07:30:47 PM »

We agree

wadesworld · « **Reply #573 on:** February 15, 2021, 07:55:10 PM »

So now K AND Izzo are bad coaches?

My goodness.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #574 on:** February 15, 2021, 07:57:03 PM »

Quote from: BLM on February 15, 2021, 07:55:10 PM

So now K AND Izzo are bad coaches?

My goodness.

Have you watched Duke’s offense the last half decade?

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