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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Pakuni on April 03, 2014, 06:28:54 PM
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Not necessarily a surprise, and not sure it's worth much with so much time to go before he finishes high school, but there it is.
Daily Eagle @Daily_Eagle
Philip Flory is still committed to Marquette, and plans to meet with Coach Wojo next week. #mubb
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Phew. Must have
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It's something positive.
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So much can happen between now and his senior year, but it's good to hear. Sounds like he's a very talented kid. I believe he's the top ranked WI player for 2017.
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Not necessarily a surprise, and not sure it's worth much with so much time to go before he finishes high school, but there it is.
Daily Eagle @Daily_Eagle
Philip Flory is still committed to Marquette, and plans to meet with Coach Wojo next week. #mubb
Lets see what kind of player he turns out to be. Right now it is nice to have him committed providing he continues on the expected maturation curve.
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As mentioned already, not a surprise, found this quote from when he gave his verbal last September-
“'I watched a lot of Marquette basketball games as a kid, and they were my favorite team. I also get the chance to follow my father’s footsteps. Marquette was always my choice of where I wanted to play,'” said Phillip."
Always critical to keep the best in your home state, for any program.
He's listed at 6'3" will be interesting to see what he is when he gets to MU. Think his dad was 6'5".
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As mentioned already, not a surprise, found this quote from when he gave his verbal last September-
“'I watched a lot of Marquette basketball games as a kid, and they were my favorite team. I also get the chance to follow my father’s footsteps. Marquette was always my choice of where I wanted to play,'” said Phillip."
Always critical to keep the best in your home state, for any program.
He's listed at 6'3" will be interesting to see what he is when he gets to MU. Think his dad was 6'5".
I hope he pans out, but Buzz wasn't the greatest at picking out talent at the junior and senior levels in high school. Hopefully, he lucked out with an 8th grader that's just starting to take algebra.
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He's a legacy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FMENQeCbxfI#t=26
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Lets see what kind of player he turns out to be. Right now it is nice to have him committed providing he continues on the expected maturation curve.
Or what?? He gets The WoJo NoGo?
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Heard yesterday that Flory might be switching to Stevens Point HS. That will be one nice high school team for the next two years. Three highly rated recruits: Trevor Anderson (Jr.), Sam Hauser (Jr.), Flory (Soph.) and Hauser's little brother Joey who will be a freshman (6' 4"). Also heard that Flory is good friends with Henry Ellingson from Rice Lake and is always in his ear trying to get him to come to MU.
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Heard yesterday that Flory might be switching to Stevens Point HS. That will be one nice high school team for the next two years. Three highly rated recruits: Trevor Anderson (Jr.), Sam Hauser (Jr.), Flory (Soph.) and Hauser's little brother Joey who will be a freshman (6' 4"). Also heard that Flory is good friends with Henry Ellingson from Rice Lake and is always in his ear trying to get him to come to MU.
I saw him play twice last year. Didn't shoot particularly well in either game. Got his points from the stripe. It's too early to judge, but he appears older than 14/15. Forgot he was just a Fr.
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There are several years of development that he will undergo, and he could progress or not over that time. Glad he is committed, and not saying that Wojo would not offer him a scholarship, but should it not be Wojo's right to decide when the kid is a Jr. in HS whether he would offer or not.
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It's a precarious situation when you have a commit that young. If he doesn't pan out and offers are only coming from the DIII variety, then MU will definitely not give him a scholarship. However, if he exceeds expectations, MU would expect him to stay committed despite offers from myriad blue bloods. I'm not banking on anything with Flory at his current age, and knowing what I know now, would not blame him for going elsewhere when the time comes to make an informed decision based on his skill level and what's best for him as a 17 or 18-year old young man.
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Hes an MU lifer so im not really worried about blue bloods if he absolutely blows up. I really hope he continues to improve and becomes an absolute stud. Still have 3 years but we will see.
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FREEPORT WARRIOR---Good source--- Flory family is contemplating moving to Milwaukee. He would like to
go to Germantown if possible. Word from up north.
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FREEPORT WARRIOR---Good source--- Flory family is contemplating moving to Milwaukee. He would like to
go to Germantown if possible. Word from up north.
Talked to the father of an AAU teammate of his yesterday afternoon and passed along the info. Hide me.
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http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2014/07/28/flory-transferring-oshkosh-north/13298631/
Flory transferring from Wisconsin Rapids to Oshkosh North.
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http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2014/07/28/flory-transferring-oshkosh-north/13298631/
Flory transferring from Wisconsin Rapids to Oshkosh North.
I think this is a precarious situation. It would not surprise me if he has to do a pg year at a basketball factory.
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I think this is a precarious situation. It would not surprise me if he has to do a pg year at a basketball factory.
Why? He is eligible for a transfer since he is moving.
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Heard yesterday that Flory might be switching to Stevens Point HS. That will be one nice high school team for the next two years. Three highly rated recruits: Trevor Anderson (Jr.), Sam Hauser (Jr.), Flory (Soph.) and Hauser's little brother Joey who will be a freshman (6' 4"). Also heard that Flory is good friends with Henry Ellingson from Rice Lake and is always in his ear trying to get him to come to MU.
Just curious. Where do you hear such things of what 15 year old is whispering into the ears of a 17 year old in the hinterlands of northern Wisconsin?
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Always critical to keep the best in your home state, for any program.
Serious question: Why is it critical to keep the best WI kids in-state for MU? How would it be worse if we let them go but picked off the best kids from IL each year?
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Just curious. Where do you hear such things of what 15 year old is whispering into the ears of a 17 year old in the hinterlands of northern Wisconsin?
Mark Miller reported yesterday that Flory is going to Oshkosh North.
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Serious question: Why is it critical to keep the best WI kids in-state for MU? How would it be worse if we let them go but picked off the best kids from IL each year?
Because we aren't going to get the best kids from Illinois every year........
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Just curious. Where do you hear such things of what 15 year old is whispering into the ears of a 17 year old in the hinterlands of northern Wisconsin?
A friend whose son played with him for a few years. I heard the Oshkosh North thing a few weeks ago but was told to keep quiet because Mark Miller was going to break it once it was absolutely a #done deal. And before you say"bs," "source" and all of the typical stuff, I private messaged Earl Tatum (who called me out a few months back for a crappy source on this exact issue) two weeks ago when I found out. Apparently it came down to Germantown and Oshkosh North because the elder Flory has some type of position that doesn't require a specific home base and he wanted to get into a good program with a solid coach. I was also told that the "feelers" were put out to Stevens Point and the reception was lukewarm. Perhaps too many D1 players and not enough basketballs.
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A friend whose son played with him for a few years. I heard the Oshkosh North thing a few weeks ago but was told to keep quiet because Mark Miller was going to break it once it was absolutely a #done deal. And before you say"bs," "source" and all of the typical stuff, I private messaged Earl Tatum (who called me out a few months back for a crappy source on this exact issue) two weeks ago when I found out. Apparently it came down to Germantown and Oshkosh North because the elder Flory has some type of position that doesn't require a specific home base and he wanted to get into a good program with a solid coach. I was also told that the "feelers" were put out to Stevens Point and the reception was lukewarm. Perhaps too many D1 players and not enough basketballs.
Why would a former player form Mt Vernon, NY care about the source of information on some 15 year old kid from Wisconsin?
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Why would a former player form Mt Vernon, NY care about the source of information on some 15 year old kid from Wisconsin?
Since I see no teal . . .
FREEPORT WARRIOR---Good source--- Flory family is contemplating moving to Milwaukee. He would like to
go to Germantown if possible. Word from up north.
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Why? He is eligible for a transfer since he is moving.
I think because Wojo wants to keep our reputation up and thus will honor the offer that Buzz made . However, he could very well stipulate that kid has to go to one of those PG schools and play some better competition for a year. Buys some time for both parties without losing face . Right now the kid is not on the trajectory of a high D 1 commit. Not saying that he won't be but an extra year can only help.
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Because we aren't going to get the best kids from Illinois every year........
Agreed... I mean isn't the main thing just getting the best player we can? Regardless of where the kid is from?
I feel like the idea of "owning Wisconsin" gets a ton of play
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I think because Wojo wants to keep our reputation up and thus will honor the offer that Buzz made . However, he could very well stipulate that kid has to go to one of those PG schools and play some better competition for a year. Buys some time for both parties without losing face . Right now the kid is not on the trajectory of a high D 1 commit. Not saying that he won't be but an extra year can only help.
Where do you get that he doesn't have the trajectory of a high d-1 commit? He's been playing up an age group all summer for PGE and basically leading the u16 team against some good national competition. He played up 2 years this past weekend.
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So much can happen between now and his senior year, but it's good to hear. Sounds like he's a very talented kid. I believe he's the top ranked WI player for 2017.
Yeah, but who knows what happens when you take the training wheels off.
Serious question: Why is it critical to keep the best WI kids in-state for MU? How would it be worse if we let them go but picked off the best kids from IL each year?
You want the best players, certainly. I know some of us have blinders on when it comes to this state, but most kids aren't looking at their college options, seeing a Wisconsin school and saying
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzew1kYAPv1rn95k2o1_400.gif)
In summary, it's important to claim the ones that are worthy to be selected so that went a crop of talent comes up as it has recently, we are the ones that they gravitate towards.
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http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2014/07/28/flory-transferring-oshkosh-north/13298631/
Flory transferring from Wisconsin Rapids to Oshkosh North.
What I love is the part of the article that refers to the speculation "of the family relocating had circulated on Marquette online message boards as early as late March..."
SCOOP POWER
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Where do you get that he doesn't have the trajectory of a high d-1 commit? He's been playing up an age group all summer for PGE and basically leading the u16 team against some good national competition. He played up 2 years this past weekend.
When it comes to giving an offer to a kid post 8th grade, that kid needs to be a Lead Pipe Cinch.I am from the old school and a can't miss player at that stage needs to exhibit the following characteristics. First he should be a dominant player on his local high school scene and making his team a force , Second he must demonstrate an ability to be one of the top 5-10 players at an older division AAU tournament and finally he needs to have extensive scrimmage activity with current college players where he is seen as more than holding his own. I think Flory falls short on all these metrics right now. That is why I think the PG option where he plays at a fancy prep school against great competition is a possibly outcome. Lets put it another way, when Flory is a senior he needs to have a highlight film that looks like this young mans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI
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When it comes to giving an offer to a kid post 8th grade, that kid needs to be a Lead Pipe Cinch.I am from the old school and a can't miss player at that stage needs to exhibit the following characteristics. First he should be a dominant player on his local high school scene and making his team a force , Second he must demonstrate an ability to be one of the top 5-10 players at an older division AAU tournament and finally he needs to have extensive scrimmage activity with current college players where he is seen as more than holding his own. I think Flory falls short on all these metrics right now. That is why I think the PG option where he plays at a fancy prep school against great competition is a possibly outcome. Lets put it another way, when Flory is a senior he needs to have a highlight film that looks like this young mans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TxMYxKiEI
A case could be made that you're wrong on all three. Flory was a major cog on his HS team as a Frosh (is the highest ranked WI player in 2017), he frequently plays up a year or two in AAU competition, and what got him the offer was holding his own against MU's WESLEY MATTHEWS. Yes, the one that currently starts for the Portland Trail Blazers (see below).
http://painttouches.com/2013/08/31/what-does-florys-commitment-mean-for-marquette/
Plus, he's a legacy.
Not that difficult to see the fit here.
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So now this board wants to rip on a 9th grader?
Pathetic!
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I'm not convinced that Flory is a PG. He is 6"3 as a freshman. I grew about four inches after my freshmen year. He could be a solid wing or forward. Wasn't his pops 6"5ish?
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I'm not convinced that Flory is a PG. He is 6"3 as a freshman. I grew about four inches after my freshmen year. He could be a solid wing or forward. Wasn't his pops 6"5ish?
Yes, dad was 6'5"
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I'm not convinced that Flory is a PG. He is 6"3 as a freshman. I grew about four inches after my freshmen year. He could be a solid wing or forward. Wasn't his pops 6"5ish?
So Magic Johnson was playing out of position all those years?
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So Magic Johnson was playing out of position all those years?
Which of the 5 positions?
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Doggy style, hey?
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Just stop. Let the kid be a kid. Start worrying about his height and development in about 2 years.