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Title: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: SERocks on April 05, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay?fbclid=IwAR0y2kQO_4kpZaptloDrI_DqtYUn3ZJMPFFWv3-BocYLYNqnucMfOEvvSJU
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: cheebs09 on April 05, 2019, 11:13:39 AM
I’m taking anything Jennings and Finley say with the largest grain of salt. The striking comment was Rodgers is turning into Favre after adamant he wouldn’t. I feel like there’s quite a bit of truth to that.

I will say, I thought Ryan Grant came out looking the best in this. Provided balanced assessments and didn’t hide behind anonymity.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: Goose on April 05, 2019, 11:39:41 AM
All parties look to blame to me. I 100% respect Rodger's talent, but never a fan of him as person. Sad thing, they wasted a decade of his talent. Mark Murphy should be removed for allowing Ted to stay as long as he did. I thought the article was tell done and it pissed me off as a Packer fan. If Rodger's is a team guy, which I doubt, this might be the year to take a flyer on Pack winning it all.

Always hear how competitive he is and the chip on his shoulder, maybe this is the year he leads the squad to SB. He has gotten knocked around by media, family and friends in a way few would have predicted 3-4 years ago. My fingers are crossed he really does have a chip on his shoulder and it shows up in W's and not his own stats.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: MUBBau on April 05, 2019, 11:52:24 AM
Rodgers is so petty he will win a Super Bowl this year to prove that McCarthy was the problem.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: mu03eng on April 05, 2019, 11:55:01 AM
Rodgers is so petty he will win a Super Bowl this year to prove that McCarthy was the problem.

I'm cool with it
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: Eldon on April 05, 2019, 11:57:43 AM
Favre would take paycuts to keep guys on the team.  Ask yourself this: would A-Rod ever do such a thing?

Be honest with yourself.  You know the answer.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: WarriorDad on April 05, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
He seems very petty, maybe the cause of his family estrangement?
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: jsglow on April 05, 2019, 12:24:20 PM
Rodgers is so petty he will win a Super Bowl this year to prove that McCarthy was the problem.

I can see that too. Look, lots of axe grinding in that story.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 05, 2019, 01:07:48 PM
Favre would take paycuts to keep guys on the team.  Ask yourself this: would A-Rod ever do such a thing?

Be honest with yourself.  You know the answer.


Rodgers has altered his contracts to allow the Packers to have more flexibility.  However he has not to my knowledge taken a pay cut.  Nor should he.

That doesn't take away from the fact that he is very petty.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: CreightonWarrior on April 05, 2019, 01:17:50 PM
I'd take Rodgers over McCarthy if that's what the question is.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 05, 2019, 01:20:12 PM
In the NFL, you build around a quarterback.  The Packers really have no choice but to put up with his pettiness, but Murphy attempting to put a fence around him isn't a bad move.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: MU82 on April 05, 2019, 01:37:00 PM
This is for all those who think WRs are the only divas on a football team.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: MUBurrow on April 05, 2019, 01:41:19 PM
Favre would take paycuts to keep guys on the team.  Ask yourself this: would A-Rod ever do such a thing?

Be honest with yourself.  You know the answer.

This shouldn't ever be a data point on whether a guy is a good teammate/team player.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: Jockey on April 05, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Favre would take paycuts to keep guys on the team.  Ask yourself this: would A-Rod ever do such a thing?

Be honest with yourself.  You know the answer.

I question whether Fabre ever took a pay cut. Let’s see the proof.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 05, 2019, 06:11:37 PM
All parties look to blame to me. I 100% respect Rodger's talent, but never a fan of him as person. Sad thing, they wasted a decade of his talent. Mark Murphy should be removed for allowing Ted to stay as long as he did. I thought the article was tell done and it pissed me off as a Packer fan. If Rodger's is a team guy, which I doubt, this might be the year to take a flyer on Pack winning it all.

Always hear how competitive he is and the chip on his shoulder, maybe this is the year he leads the squad to SB. He has gotten knocked around by media, family and friends in a way few would have predicted 3-4 years ago. My fingers are crossed he really does have a chip on his shoulder and it shows up in W's and not his own stats.

yes sir goose man!  you can take the dude out of california ,but ya can't take the california out of the dude.  member when he told everyone to hold hands before the bear-packer game...yup! 

 just win baby!
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 08, 2019, 11:34:08 AM
Favre would take paycuts to keep guys on the team.  Ask yourself this: would A-Rod ever do such a thing?

Be honest with yourself.  You know the answer.

I do not recall that ever happening, any links to support this?
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: JWags85 on April 08, 2019, 12:18:16 PM
All parties look to blame to me. I 100% respect Rodger's talent, but never a fan of him as person. Sad thing, they wasted a decade of his talent. Mark Murphy should be removed for allowing Ted to stay as long as he did. I thought the article was tell done and it pissed me off as a Packer fan. If Rodger's is a team guy, which I doubt, this might be the year to take a flyer on Pack winning it all.

Always hear how competitive he is and the chip on his shoulder, maybe this is the year he leads the squad to SB. He has gotten knocked around by media, family and friends in a way few would have predicted 3-4 years ago. My fingers are crossed he really does have a chip on his shoulder and it shows up in W's and not his own stats.

Depends on if he's still gonna do stuff like keep taking sacks to preserve his completion percentage.

I, as a Bears fan, can willingly and candidly admit that he's probably the most talented QB of all time, and when he's on his game, I think he's the best at playing that position of all time.  However, I think he's a drama queen and a douche who cares more about #12 and the his brand than anything else.  So the article didn't surprise me.

(And yes of course I'd take him on the Bears in a second, im not a fool)
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: dgies9156 on April 08, 2019, 12:32:43 PM
(And yes of course I'd take him on the Bears in a second, I'm not a fool)

If Aaron Rodgers was a Bear next year, with Matt Nagy as head coach, the Bears might go 16-0.

Assuming, of course, the Bears ever find a serviceable placekicker.

Doink

Doink
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: Jockey on April 08, 2019, 01:02:04 PM
All parties look to blame to me. I 100% respect Rodger's talent, but never a fan of him as person. Sad thing, they wasted a decade of his talent. Mark Murphy should be removed for allowing Ted to stay as long as he did. I thought the article was tell done and it pissed me off as a Packer fan. If Rodger's is a team guy, which I doubt, this might be the year to take a flyer on Pack winning it all.


You are spot on about Murphy. While all 4 parties have some blame here, I think the order is 1) Murphy, 2) Thompson, 3) McCarthy, 4) Rodgers.

The 2015 draft was unarguably one of the worst drafts in NFL history - for Murphy to let Thompson continue is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2019, 05:56:45 AM
not unexpectedly, aaron disputes the BR story-and the rest of the story-


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26473333/rodgers-disputes-reported-feud-mccarthy

  amazing what some guys("journalists") will write to get a little click bait, but ya'd think if a dude wants to write a story, he would have a little more than anecdotal juice.  might as well said it was olivia that was massaging mccarthy
 
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 09, 2019, 07:34:31 AM
not unexpectedly, aaron disputes the BR story-and the rest of the story-


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26473333/rodgers-disputes-reported-feud-mccarthy

  amazing what some guys("journalists") will write to get a little click bait, but ya'd think if a dude wants to write a story, he would have a little more than anecdotal juice.  might as well said it was olivia that was massaging mccarthy
 


The reporter was directly quoting guys. It wasn’t simply speculation.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: jficke13 on April 09, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
None of what was in that BR story surprised me.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: GB Warrior on April 09, 2019, 08:52:06 AM

The reporter was directly quoting guys. It wasn’t simply speculation.

Sources Fermichael Jinley and Craig Jennings were highly critical of him.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 09, 2019, 09:04:50 AM
Sources Fermichael Jinley and Craig Jennings were highly critical of him.


Well yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.  I always take this type of criticism with a grain of salt after it got out there.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: #UnleashSean on April 09, 2019, 10:15:44 AM
not unexpectedly, aaron disputes the BR story-and the rest of the story-


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26473333/rodgers-disputes-reported-feud-mccarthy

  amazing what some guys("journalists") will write to get a little click bait, but ya'd think if a dude wants to write a story, he would have a little more than anecdotal juice.  might as well said it was olivia that was massaging mccarthy
 

What Rodgers says "The thing is about the article, it's -- it's not a mystery. This was a smear attack by a writer looking to advance his career talking with mostly irrelevant, bitter players who all have an agenda, whether they're advancing their own careers or just trying to stir old stuff up,"

Is pretty much par for the course what the bleacher article said.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: Jockey on April 09, 2019, 10:49:16 AM
Sources Fermichael Jinley and Craig Jennings were highly critical of him.

These are two guys who have had issues with ARod for years.
Title: Re: Did the Packers fire the right people? a/k/a Can Aaron control/contain his ego?
Post by: D'Lo Brown on April 09, 2019, 04:45:07 PM
What Rodgers says "The thing is about the article, it's -- it's not a mystery. This was a smear attack by a writer looking to advance his career talking with mostly irrelevant, bitter players who all have an agenda, whether they're advancing their own careers or just trying to stir old stuff up,"

Is pretty much par for the course what the bleacher article said.

Attacking the messenger and not the message is a smear/disinformation tactic, however.

Coming on the radio and embellishing yourself to appear like a saint as well as making everyone else haters... Is probably a sign.

That said, these types of personalities rarely have that much of an impact on the team's performance. Fans tend to drastically overstate the value of "locker room chemistry". Super Bowl champions have had these types of personalities since 1967. No player is going to drop a pass from Rodgers just to spite him. Nobody likes Roethlisberger, either, and he does fine.