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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 12, 2017, 10:15:36 PM

Title: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 12, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/885201239130112002
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: rocky_warrior on July 12, 2017, 10:20:06 PM
Champions of Statistics!
Or is that....
Statistically, Champions!

Either way, it was fun to watch.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Jay Bee on July 12, 2017, 11:16:13 PM
Also should be a reminder to the whiners this coming year...'ooooh, he's down from last year!!'

An historic, absolutely amazing accomplishment by Markus
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: brewcity77 on July 13, 2017, 09:40:32 AM
Also should be a reminder to the whiners this coming year...'ooooh, he's down from last year!!'

An historic, absolutely amazing accomplishment by Markus

Markus will almost certainly have a lower three point percentage, but that won't diminish this accomplishment and doesn't mean he can't still improve his overall game.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 13, 2017, 10:16:04 AM
Markus will almost certainly have a lower three point percentage, but that won't diminish this accomplishment and doesn't mean he can't still improve his overall game.

Absolutely. But I guarantee that at some point next season we will got a thread titled something like "What's Wrong with Markus' Shot?" if he's shooting around 40% from deep.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 13, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
Absolutely. But I guarantee that at some point next season we will got a thread titled something like "What's Wrong with Markus' Shot?" if he's shooting around 40% from deep.

Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: bilsu on July 13, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
Absolutely. But I guarantee that at some point next season we will got a thread titled something like "What's Wrong with Markus' Shot?" if he's shooting around 40% from deep.
I expect a decrease and I think 48% (which is excellent) is a reasonable expectation. A decline to 40% would make me think something is wrong.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Nukem2 on July 13, 2017, 10:35:54 AM
Markus will almost certainly have a lower three point percentage, but that won't diminish this accomplishment and doesn't mean he can't still improve his overall game.
Yep.  Life in sports.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: warriorchick on July 13, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.


Matt Heldt is taking too many no-footers instead of passing out to him.

He's losing quickness.

He's too old.

His neck has gotten thinner.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on July 13, 2017, 11:13:23 AM
He's not 17 anymore.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: brewcity77 on July 13, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
I expect a decrease and I think 48% (which is excellent) is a reasonable expectation. A decline to 40% would make me think something is wrong.

You'd be wrong. In the past 5 seasons, there have been 11 qualifying players to shoot over 50% from three that had eligibility remaining. Of those, Nate Buss (40.8% in 2015), Brandon Pye (40.5% in 2015), Micah Mason (44.5% in 2015), and James McGee (41.8% in 2016) were the only ones to eclipse 40% in the following season.

7/11 (63.6%) players that broke 50% failed to even break 40% the next year, and only two broke 41% with none reaching 45%. Maybe Markus will break that trend, but anything over 40% should be celebrated.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Benny B on July 13, 2017, 11:32:34 AM
He's not 17 anymore.

Noice.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: g0lden3agle on July 13, 2017, 11:34:51 AM
You'd be wrong. In the past 5 seasons, there have been 11 qualifying players to shoot over 50% from three that had eligibility remaining. Of those, Nate Buss (40.8% in 2015), Brandon Pye (40.5% in 2015), Micah Mason (44.5% in 2015), and James McGee (41.8% in 2016) were the only ones to eclipse 40% in the following season.

7/11 (63.6%) players that broke 50% failed to even break 40% the next year, and only two broke 41% with none reaching 45%. Maybe Markus will break that trend, but anything over 40% should be celebrated.

What sort of volume did those players shoot in their over 50% season vs. their season(s) to follow? 
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: brewcity77 on July 13, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
What sort of volume did those players shoot in their over 50% season vs. their season(s) to follow?

Every one of the eleven players increased their attempts in the subsequent season. I would anticipate Markus will do the same.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: tower912 on July 13, 2017, 12:13:31 PM
Head games, substitution patterns, Wojo doesn't know how to use him, is ruining his confidence.   Takes him out too fast, won't let him play through mistakes, is/isn't running the offense through him.....
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: real chili 83 on July 13, 2017, 12:28:12 PM
He's not 17 anymore.

No
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on July 13, 2017, 12:50:05 PM
I expect a decrease and I think 48% (which is excellent) is a reasonable expectation. A decline to 40% would make me think something is wrong.
Way to get the ball rolling early
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: GGGG on July 13, 2017, 01:45:34 PM
Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.


Wojo sucks.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: MerrittsMustache on July 13, 2017, 01:56:07 PM
Wojo sucks.

There will also be a Dominic James comparison thrown in there as well.

Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: dgies9156 on July 13, 2017, 02:11:07 PM
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 13, 2017, 02:40:01 PM
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

Well....one of those was a team award.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: mu03eng on July 13, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/7QOd9u8qQ4Hio/200.gif)
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: wadesworld on July 13, 2017, 03:02:56 PM
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

It's not really a choice.  It's not like had we shot a lower percentage from 3 as a team (or if Marcus himself shot a lower percentage from 3) our team would've beat South Carolina and taken their spot in the Final Four...
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 13, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
It's not really a choice.  It's not like had we shot a lower percentage from 3 as a team (or if Marcus himself shot a lower percentage from 3) our team would've beat South Carolina and taken their spot in the Final Four...

How do you figure? I think that shooting lower percentages from shots worth more points would definitely mean a W in not just one game but also a guaranteed final four
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on July 13, 2017, 04:24:39 PM
It's not really a choice.  It's not like had we shot a lower percentage from 3 as a team (or if Marcus himself shot a lower percentage from 3) our team would've beat South Carolina and taken their spot in the Final Four...

Exactly. It's a false equivalent.  I mean, wouldn't we all prefer world peace to winning a national championship?
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Newsdreams on July 13, 2017, 07:30:17 PM
Exactly. It's a false equivalent.  I mean, wouldn't we all prefer world peace to winning a national championship?
NOT ME!
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: wadesworld on July 13, 2017, 07:45:04 PM
NOT ME!

+1.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Loose Cannon on July 13, 2017, 07:52:27 PM




  MU would be Proud.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 13, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
feed him the rock-

       "the best thing about freshman is that they become sophomores"
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Dawson Rental on July 14, 2017, 08:07:55 AM
Allow me to take this one...

He's taking bad shots.

The D is focused on him.

He's not tall enough to shoot in the BE.

The team lacks leadership.

Too much pressure from Greg Elliott breathing down his neck.

He needed to redshirt.

nm, beaten to the punch.
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: Dawson Rental on July 14, 2017, 08:11:57 AM
Last time I checked, basketball was a team game (with the possible exception of LSU when Pete Maravich was there).

I'm happy that our guys have received recognition for playing well.

But it means nothing.

I'd trade the recognition for a win against South Carolina last March.

Wouldn't you?

I'll bet Markus would!

Sure would.  Who exactly is offering the trade?
Title: Re: Hang a Bann...er....Plaque!
Post by: barfolomew on July 14, 2017, 10:58:31 AM
nm

Wrong thread, sir.