NFL Thread 2019-2020

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Most NFL contracts are not "guaranteed." They usually are front-loaded with a signing bonus, but then have little to no guarantees.

For example, McCaffrey becoming the "highest paid back in the NFL" sounds impressive. But he still has 2 years left on his current deal, his new one doesn't kick in until 2022, and he will be 30 by the time it ends. Heck, it's possible that he won't even play Year 2 of his new contract, let alone for the entirety of it.

So yeah ... Kaepernick declined his 2017 player option, but he was not guaranteed anything for that 2017 season anyway, and it appeared he would get cut to save salary cap and to rid the team of an "agitator."

As the Business Insider article said:

The contract gave Kaepernick a $12.3 million signing bonus and a 2014 salary of just $645,000. Those were the only truly guaranteed portions of the contract, despite reports that Kaepernick's deal included a record $61 million in "guaranteed" money. It turned out the $61 million was only guaranteed if he were to suffer a career-ending injury.

Each year of the contract after the first, the 49ers were free to cut Kaepernick and not owe him any more money.

That's SOP in the NFL. Anytime anybody reads about an NFL contract, eyebrows should be raised about what it actually pays the athlete.

Kaepernick was blackballed, plain and simple. Of course he "brought it on himself." It was his decision to lead a movement, one the NFL was not yet ready for, and he wasn't always a great spokesperson for that movement. But let's not pretend he wasn't blackballed because of it.

Thanks for your obsession with me and pulling out a quote that sultan had just linked to the article.

Must be nice to have so much free time as a househusband.

[MU82]

Thanks for your obsession with me and pulling out a quote that sultan had just linked to the article.

Must be nice to have so much free time as a househusband.

I wasn't responding to you, Mr. Obsessive. I was in a conversation with reasonable people making reasonable points. You might want to try it sometime.

[4everwarriors]

Eye'm guessin' Kap duzant got nothin' left in his tank ta offer NFL teems, hey?

[MU82]

Eye'm guessin' Kap duzant got nothin' left in his tank ta offer NFL teems, hey?

Seriously, Doc ... if you look at the list of backup QBs in the NFL, you don't think he could be one?

For example, the Panthers' backup is a kid they drafted last year who began the year as a third-stringer, moved up due to injuries, and then looked completely lost the one game he played at the end of the season after having taken part in every meeting and practice all year. I would take Kaepernick over Greer in a heartbeat -- or at least would like to see Kaepernick get the chance to earn the backup job over Greer.

That's all assuming Kaepernick was willing to take backup pay and vie for a backup job, which he might not. That's certainly part of all this. But to say he simply isn't good enough to be one of the NFL's best 64 quarterbacks ... that seems a little presumptuous, oona?

[Pakuni]

Eye'm guessin' Kap duzant got nothin' left in his tank ta offer NFL teems, hey?

Yeah ... 32 years old is ancient for a quarterback.

[rocket surgeon]

Seriously, Doc ... if you look at the list of backup QBs in the NFL, you don't think he could be one?

For example, the Panthers' backup is a kid they drafted last year who began the year as a third-stringer, moved up due to injuries, and then looked completely lost the one game he played at the end of the season after having taken part in every meeting and practice all year. I would take Kaepernick over Greer in a heartbeat -- or at least would like to see Kaepernick get the chance to earn the backup job over Greer.

That's all assuming Kaepernick was willing to take backup pay and vie for a backup job, which he might not. That's certainly part of all this. But to say he simply isn't good enough to be one of the NFL's best 64 quarterbacks ... that seems a little presumptuous, oona?

  that's all fine and good 82, but "extra baggage is all part of the deal.  let's say you are the best university professor in the world, but ya just tweeted out "all lives mater" or i would never kneel for the national anthem.  are schools bangin on your door to bring you in?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

  that's all fine and good 82, but "extra baggage is all part of the deal.  let's say you are the best university professor in the world, but ya just tweeted out "all lives mater" or i would never kneel for the national anthem.  are schools bangin on your door to bring you in?

Do failed sportswriter next.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

  that's all fine and good 82, but "extra baggage is all part of the deal.  let's say you are the best university professor in the world, but ya just tweeted out "all lives mater" or i would never kneel for the national anthem.  are schools bangin on your door to bring you in?

The point is what he did shouldn't have been considered "baggage" to begin with. 

[MU82]

Do failed sportswriter next.

Your obsession with me is beyond weird. I ignore you except for when you say something about me, but you can't help yourself.

Your bullying tactics won't work any better than your buddy BJ's did.

Hey man, I know you don't like me, and I'm beyond caring about that. I tried having a discussion with you via PM so we didn't do this within threads, but you blew me off.

Anyway, whatever you might perceive my faults might be, at least I didn't use The Last Dance comment stream to make a racist comment about Jordan.

Wonder when the series will get to MJ and all the white women he was with while still married to Juanita.

So congrats for having that character-revealing statement on your resume. It's always good to know who the racists are.

[Pakuni]

And he walked away from a guaranteed contract with the 49ers.

The 49ers told him they were going to cut him, but gave him a chance to opt out first.
John Lynch later confirmed this.
"We gave him the option: 'You can opt out, we can release you, whatever.' And he chose to opt out, but that was just a formality."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-49ers-wouldve-cut-colin-kaepernick-if-he-hadnt-opted-out-of-his-contract/

[4everwarriors]

Kap hasn't played competitively in 4 years. There isn't enough WD-40 to get that machine hummin' again, hey?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Your obsession with me is beyond weird. I ignore you except for when you say something about me, but you can't help yourself.

Your bullying tactics won't work any better than your buddy BJ's did.

Hey man, I know you don't like me, and I'm beyond caring about that. I tried having a discussion with you via PM so we didn't do this within threads, but you blew me off.

Anyway, whatever you might perceive my faults might be, at least I didn't use The Last Dance comment stream to make a racist comment about Jordan.

So congrats for having that character-revealing statement on your resume. It's always good to know who the racists are.

Poor nads, everyone is always picking on him.

You ain't no angel either.

*inventor of slut shaming.  (EA says hi.)
*ghoul that wishes death upon entire US cities.
*subject to multiple bans, because you lack maturity and self control.

I really dont give a shït what you or anyone else thinks.  Unlike the super smart and serious crew, this all an act for me.  This place has been and will be a joke, and I treat it as such.

But keep patting yourselves on the back, smart people.  You guys got it all figured out.  Enjoy the leftwing circlejerk that you've created for yourself.   

As for nads, I will miss your amusing antidotes about your wife, having a beer with your fellow emasculated buddies, and your views on MyPanthers^tm.

[MU82]

As for nads, I will miss your amusing antidotes about your wife, having a beer with your fellow emasculated buddies, and your views on MyPanthers^tm.

See ya. Enjoy hanging out with your racist friends.

[Jockey]

Poor nads, everyone is always picking on him.

You ain't no angel either.

*inventor of slut shaming.  (EA says hi.)
*ghoul that wishes death upon entire US cities.
*subject to multiple bans, because you lack maturity and self control.

I really dont give a shït what you or anyone else thinks.  Unlike the super smart and serious crew, this all an act for me.  This place has been and will be a joke, and I treat it as such.

But keep patting yourselves on the back, smart people.  You guys got it all figured out.  Enjoy the leftwing circlejerk that you've created for yourself.   

As for nads, I will miss your amusing antidotes about your wife, having a beer with your fellow emasculated buddies, and your views on MyPanthers^tm.

Who woulda thunk that being called a racist after making a racist comment would set you off so.

[jesmu84]

Wow.

What happened here?

[Hards Alumni]

Poor nads, everyone is always picking on him.

You ain't no angel either.

*inventor of slut shaming.  (EA says hi.)
*ghoul that wishes death upon entire US cities.
*subject to multiple bans, because you lack maturity and self control.

I really dont give a shït what you or anyone else thinks.  Unlike the super smart and serious crew, this all an act for me.  This place has been and will be a joke, and I treat it as such.

But keep patting yourselves on the back, smart people.  You guys got it all figured out.  Enjoy the leftwing circlejerk that you've created for yourself.   

As for nads, I will miss your amusing antidotes about your wife, having a beer with your fellow emasculated buddies, and your views on MyPanthers^tm.

Maybe take a break, bud. 

[wadesworld]

It’s not Ziggy’s fault.  If the crazy lefts on here wouldn’t make him post, he wouldn’t do it.

[tower912]

I feel for Ziggy.   I remember when I was defending CK and the righty circle jerk was in full roar.  Very frustrating.   Not my style to lash out.   I tend to walk away.   But I understand the impulse. 

  Right now the board isn't fun for him because the political winds are blowing against him.   And politics of COVID and protests have taken over the board.   

I think this highlights the wisdom of the mods banning politics prior to 3 months ago.   Egos are getting bruised.  Lines are being drawn.   We aren't ever going to be able to read a post about MU basketball without remembering for a second political  insults that were hurled.

Hang in there Ziggy.

[keefe]

Kap hasn't played competitively in 4 years. There isn't enough WD-40 to get that machine hummin' again, hey?

Some people have fought and bled for something enduring and real.

Freedom ain't free, hey Doc?

[MU82]

  that's all fine and good 82, but "extra baggage is all part of the deal.  let's say you are the best university professor in the world, but ya just tweeted out "all lives mater" or i would never kneel for the national anthem.  are schools bangin on your door to bring you in?

Hey rocket. I specifically acknowledged his baggage and said I could see why it would be an issue. So not sure what you're arguing with me about here.

[wadesworld]

Some people have fought and bled for something enduring and real.

Freedom ain't free, hey Doc?

Yeah equality and justice ain’t enduring or real. Keep minorities oppressed please!

  

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Some people have fought and bled for something enduring and real.

Freedom ain't free, hey Doc?

Exactly.

Thank you for fighting for Colin Kaepernick's right to protest.

[Hards Alumni]

Some people have fought and bled for something enduring and real.

Freedom ain't free, hey Doc?

Imperialism is Freedom now? 

[tower912]

Always have to fight for your right to not have your neck knelt on for 8:46.

CK's kneeling was always about BLM.   Everything else was a creation of the echo chamber.

[MU82]

Outside Panthers stadium stood a statue of former owner Jerry Richardson, who was forced to sell the team a few years back because of numerous racist and sexist words and deeds.

His statue was just removed from the stadium gates, and it will not return.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article243442916.html?

Good riddance.