NFL Thread 2019-2020

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Pretty sure the Bears jumped GB to take Mooney.

[DegenerateDish]

This draft has been much better to watch from a production standpoint than any draft I can remember. I like not having to see some young kid and his family sit in the green room and be embarrassed (?) when they fall. Love seeing the front office staffs at their homes (or yachts). It’s a very personable production, flows much better, a lot less pomp and circumstance is fine by me.

[dgies9156]

This draft has been much better to watch from a production standpoint than any draft I can remember. I like not having to see some young kid and his family sit in the green room and be embarrassed (?) when they fall. Love seeing the front office staffs at their homes (or yachts). It’s a very personable production, flows much better, a lot less pomp and circumstance is fine by me.

10-4 Brother Dish. Really loved Bill Belichek's dog at the New England draft central! That was priceless.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

So much for Pace drafting a QB every year until they get one. Really doubling down on the Nick Foles/Mitch Trubisky combo.

At least take a flyer on Anthony Gordon...

[Hards Alumni]

So much for Pace drafting a QB every year until they get one. Really doubling down on the Nick Foles/Mitch Trubisky combo.

At least take a flyer on Anthony Gordon...

UDFA

[CreightonWarrior]

So in a year where the packers badly need a WR and we keep hearing about a deep wr draft class the packers get zero.

[injuryBug]

So in a year where the packers badly need a WR and we keep hearing about a deep wr draft class the packers get zero.

Packers are shifting to a running team.  LeFleur was always big on the run.  See the success of Baltimore, Tenn and SF and it is easy to see the shift GB is making.  Instead of passing to open up the run we will now see old school run to open up the pass. 

[wadesworld]

Packers are shifting to a running team.  LeFleur was always big on the run.  See the success of Baltimore, Tenn and SF and it is easy to see the shift GB is making.  Instead of passing to open up the run we will now see old school run to open up the pass.

But we traded up to draft Patrick Mahomes so...

[MU82]

Given that the Bears gave away one of the 10 best tight ends in NFL history back in 2011, it's pretty funny that they now have 10 tight ends on their roster.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Pete Fiutak
@PeteFiutak
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Southern Illinois S Jeremy Chinn was the only player from an Illinois school selected in the #2020NFLDraft.

More players were selected from North Dakota, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Connecticut, New Mexico, Idaho and Wyoming - than from any of the Illinois FBS programs.

[GB Warrior]

Given that the Bears gave away one of the 10 best tight ends in NFL history back in 2011, it's pretty funny that they now have 10 tight ends on their roster.

Just trying to atone for the crimes of Mike Martz

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Pete Fiutak
@PeteFiutak
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4h
Southern Illinois S Jeremy Chinn was the only player from an Illinois school selected in the #2020NFLDraft.

More players were selected from North Dakota, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Connecticut, New Mexico, Idaho and Wyoming - than from any of the Illinois FBS programs.

I mean, that's not a surprise. Northwestern has had some success in recent years getting guys to teh NFL but Illinois is far from a football state.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I mean, that's not a surprise. Northwestern has had some success in recent years getting guys to teh NFL but Illinois is far from a football state.

They have seven division one football programs.  One player drafted.

[MU82]

Pete Fiutak
@PeteFiutak
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4h
Southern Illinois S Jeremy Chinn was the only player from an Illinois school selected in the #2020NFLDraft.

More players were selected from North Dakota, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Connecticut, New Mexico, Idaho and Wyoming - than from any of the Illinois FBS programs.

Panthers traded up to draft Chinn, giving up 5th round pick to move up 5 spots. So I obviously hope they know what they're doing. He looks like a heck of an athlete.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Smoking Jay and Kristin Cavallari are getting divorced.

[Pakuni]

Pete Fiutak
@PeteFiutak
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4h
Southern Illinois S Jeremy Chinn was the only player from an Illinois school selected in the #2020NFLDraft.

More players were selected from North Dakota, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Connecticut, New Mexico, Idaho and Wyoming - than from any of the Illinois FBS programs.

And yet the Illini still beat Bucky.

[WarriorDad]

Smoking Jay and Kristin Cavallari are getting divorced.

I will to burn my paperback of Balancing in Heels: My Journey to Health, Happiness, and Making it all Work by Kristin Cavalari



In other news, Cardinals rated 4th best draft and selected best overall player (Simmons).   

[wadesworld]

I will to burn my paperback of Balancing in Heels: My Journey to Health, Happiness, and Making it all Work by Kristin Cavalari



In other news, Cardinals rated 4th best draft and selected best overall player (Simmons).

Ahh yes. Draft grades the day after the draft. Those always go great!

[cheebs09]

I will to burn my paperback of Balancing in Heels: My Journey to Health, Happiness, and Making it all Work by Kristin Cavalari



In other news, Cardinals rated 4th best draft and selected best overall player (Simmons).

Big Laguna Beach fan?

[MU82]

Here's an interesting, sometimes-amusing take on the draft from the LA Times' Sam Farmer, who shares 32 observations:

https://tylerpaper.com/sports/sam-farmer-the-reality-is-the-virtual-nfl-draft-format-was-great-and-31-other/article_b9654d7c-87f3-11ea-bcd0-6f8b4a4dbca7.html

Two of my favorites:

++ After watching NFL general managers draft from home, this much is undeniable: These guys have very high ceilings.

++ Weird how the mom of Iowa tackle Tristan Wirfs was wearing a faded #LFG T-shirt before the draft. That’s Tom Brady’s signature hashtag and stands for “Let’s … Go.” Then Wirfs, who could have gone much earlier, was drafted 13th by Tampa Bay to block for Brady.

[Pakuni]

Ahh yes. Draft grades the day after the draft. Those always go great!

Now why would you say that?

8. Christian McCaffrey, RB Stanford — Carolina Panthers
Grade: D+
Analysis: McCaffrey will be make the Panthers offense better. Like Darren Sproles, he’ll make an impact on all four downs. But is he worth a No. 8 pick? I’m not so sure. You can get a good running back in the later rounds. Dalvin Cook may end up a better NFL running back and he didn’t even go in the first round.

10. Patrick Mahomes, QB Texas Tech — Kansas City Chiefs (from Buffalo)
Grade: C-
Analysis: Calling Mahomes a project is a major understatement. He’s nowhere near ready to play in the NFL. And, honestly, he may never be. Between his inconsistent accuracy due to poor mechanics, his tendency to bail from clean pockets and his lack of field vision, he’s going to leave as many big plays on the field as he creates. This was a risky pick.

12. Deshaun Watson, QB Clemson — Houston Texans (from CLE via PHI)
Grade: C+
Analysis: The Texans finally get their quarterback of the future. Or so they think. I’m not so sure Watson will ever develop into a top QB, but he’ll be an improvement over what they’ve had in Houston the last few years. That’s not saying a whole lot. The Clemson star needs to hit the deep ball more consistently and do a better job of reading defenses.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-grades-picks-analysis-results

[wadesworld]

Now why would you say that?

8. Christian McCaffrey, RB Stanford — Carolina Panthers
Grade: D+
Analysis: McCaffrey will be make the Panthers offense better. Like Darren Sproles, he’ll make an impact on all four downs. But is he worth a No. 8 pick? I’m not so sure. You can get a good running back in the later rounds. Dalvin Cook may end up a better NFL running back and he didn’t even go in the first round.

10. Patrick Mahomes, QB Texas Tech — Kansas City Chiefs (from Buffalo)
Grade: C-
Analysis: Calling Mahomes a project is a major understatement. He’s nowhere near ready to play in the NFL. And, honestly, he may never be. Between his inconsistent accuracy due to poor mechanics, his tendency to bail from clean pockets and his lack of field vision, he’s going to leave as many big plays on the field as he creates. This was a risky pick.

12. Deshaun Watson, QB Clemson — Houston Texans (from CLE via PHI)
Grade: C+
Analysis: The Texans finally get their quarterback of the future. Or so they think. I’m not so sure Watson will ever develop into a top QB, but he’ll be an improvement over what they’ve had in Houston the last few years. That’s not saying a whole lot. The Clemson star needs to hit the deep ball more consistently and do a better job of reading defenses.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-grades-picks-analysis-results

Thank God we have Draft grades in this time of Covid 19. We don’t even need to play the games and risk the health of people involved. Just check out random draft grades. The Cardinals killed it! Simulated 2020 Super Bowl Champs! The Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Cubs fan (huh?) is all set!

[tower912]

Great find, Pakuni.

[Jockey]

I don't find grades to be a bad thing this early.

As we see, I think most Scoopers are smart enough to know that they are simply a snapshot in time.  We (and the draft experts) don't really know. For the most part, the grades are what these "experts" see as far as the draftees making their team better NEXT year.

So, of course the Packers' grades would be among the lowest in the league. They drafted for the future as none of these guys will make any difference this fall. I don't agree with what they did, but we won't know if their draft was a success until we see what Love does 5 years from now. So it could be anywhere from a total bust draft (if Love is a bust) to a great draft if he becomes a star.

[Pakuni]

I don't find grades to be a bad thing this early.

As we see, I think most Scoopers are smart enough to know that they are simply a snapshot in time.  We (and the draft experts) don't really know. For the most part, the grades are what these "experts" see as far as the draftees making their team better NEXT year.

So, of course the Packers' grades would be among the lowest in the league. They drafted for the future as none of these guys will make any difference this fall. I don't agree with what they did, but we won't know if their draft was a success until we see what Love does 5 years from now. So it could be anywhere from a total bust draft (if Love is a bust) to a great draft if he becomes a star.

I'm not sure if it's all about next year. The Dolphins are getting good grades for taking Tua, and he may not even see the field next year, for example. Same with the Ravens for taking Dobbins, who likely will be a backup next season.

I don't mind the draft grades at all. They just shouldn't be taken too seriously. The biggest problem is that they're based almost entirely on how the Kipers. McShays, Bruglers, etc., of the world rank these guys and their values, as opposed to the teams.
 I don't mind those guys and think for the most part they do decent work, but the reality is they can't possibly do as much work on these players that NFL teams do, nor do they have the same access to information as the teams. That's even more of an issue this year, when media guys couldn't hang around pro days to get tips on where plays stand with the teams.