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Title: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: GuyIncognito on February 28, 2010, 12:56:54 PM
Please get his nickname right.

ACCEPTABLE
Cooby
Coobie
Coobs

NOT ACCEPTABLE
Cubes (is a square, also sounds like pubes)
Cuby
Cubby (small bear, or nickname for cubs)
Cubie
Cubbie

Now, rip away, because he is terrible
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: krocheck on February 28, 2010, 01:03:31 PM
He has scored 15 points in this game.  Has he thrown up bricks, yes, but he's at least contributed significantly today.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: willie warrior on February 28, 2010, 01:03:52 PM
Cannot play D
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Doctor V on February 28, 2010, 01:04:30 PM
cubillian?
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: marquetteff03 on February 28, 2010, 01:06:47 PM
He is a good player I just sick of him jacking up 3's early in the possession when we may have other options that are higher percentage. I like to see Jimmy and Zar get touches b4 Cooby, Coobs or whoever plays ratchet arm.

That being said he has made 2 of late which is good. But next time he misses I am all over him.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Josey Wales on February 28, 2010, 01:26:53 PM
So if I type cubi or cubby you're not going to know who I'm talking about, or you're just a control freak? Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: The Lens on February 28, 2010, 01:31:44 PM
You gotta be a real jack nut to rip anyone on this team.

No one is perfect but all do something that contributes to success.

Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: downtown85 on February 28, 2010, 01:35:15 PM
I think he should be SOG.  no teal. 
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on February 28, 2010, 01:35:58 PM
Homer and Mac said he's the player of the game.  Played 44 of 45 minutes without a turnover.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Coleman on February 28, 2010, 01:36:56 PM
yeah I don't really understand the hate...He had 16 pts, shot 50% from the field, was 2-6 from 3 (not great but not as bad everyone makes him out to be), 4 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block and 0 turnovers.

So what gives?
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on February 28, 2010, 01:38:09 PM
He took those missed threes at questionable times.  It was painful, I am actually surprised at the stat line he ended up with.  Very good going to the rack today, but his timing was a little off on the 3's.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Rocco on February 28, 2010, 01:42:10 PM
yeah I don't really understand the hate...He had 16 pts, shot 50% from the field, was 2-6 from 3 (not great but not as bad everyone makes him out to be), 4 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block and 0 turnovers.

So what gives?
I encourage you to watch Cubillan on defense.  Just him, don't watch the ball or the play.  Watch him from the time he picks his guy up at half court, to the time his guys either scores or gets an assist.  Your opinion on the Venezuelan assassin will change tremendously.  I will be willing to bet 40% of opposing teams points are directly because of a break down of his defense.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: nycwarrior on February 28, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
Rip on Cubillan? For today's game? Really?

He did jack up some 3s quicker than you'd like to see and missed the last FT but other than that I thought he was in the mix for just about every loose ball and had his best game (at least that I can recall) going to the bucket.

Good game for him in my opinion.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: The Lens on February 28, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
Obviously penetrating creates the paint touches Buzzard wants but it also is good for he and Mo b/c it increases the likelihood of them getting to the line throughout the game.  When they just sit back and jack, they end up with the ball in their hands in pressure FT moments, having not shot one all game.  I really like the aggressiveness in getting to the hoop.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Sharpie on February 28, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
There are things that we could rip each and every player today with. I just don't understand why cubillan get's so much heat for the way he is playing. If you were to tell me he would have this stat line and jacked and also jacked up some questionable shots at questionable times during a big east game....I would have been thrilled. He went from nonexistent last year to being a solid contributor for us and in my eyes, I will take his aggressive play any day and take my hat off to him and Acker both stepping up this year. If they hadn't we would be at the absolute bottom of the league.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: what the fulce? on February 28, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
Yea he took some bad 3's today but I can think of bad plays made by everyone today. I think some people just have it ingrained in them that he can't play well and have selective memory. I actually thought he played alright on defense and was hustling and came up with a couple of 50/50 at clutch points in the game. No turnovers plus his drives to the rack, my vote for SotG.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: avid1010 on February 28, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
You gotta be a real jack nut to rip anyone on this team.

No one is perfect but all do something that contributes to success.



Jack nut?  

Anyhow, he played a great first half, and in the second half went back to his old ways.  I think Buzz is confident that he knows what he's going to get out of Coobie, but his man was playing 3 steps off of him in the second half and that really clogged things up for MU.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: wojosdojo on February 28, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
Agreed. He did a great job at taking it to the hole today and came up with some big big plays; 3 pt play and 3 ptr. At begining of OT. He was taking a lot of threes today but he was open, lay off because it was his night. He's taking good care of the ball and it doing what he is told to do. Therefore if you don't like it you might not want to watch because I don't think Buzz is changing anything up.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: avid1010 on February 28, 2010, 01:52:06 PM
Agreed. He did a great job at taking it to the hole today and came up with some big big plays; 3 pt play and 3 ptr. At begining of OT. He was taking a lot of threes today but he was open, lay off because it was his night. He's taking good care of the ball and it doing what he is told to do. Therefore if you don't like it you might not want to watch because I don't think Buzz is changing anything up.

Buzz may not make a change, but he's openly criticized Coobie for his shot selection.  He's the only player on the team that I see force offense for himself (some would call this selfish).  He did not do a good job of taking it to the hoop today.  He did a good job of taking it to the hoop in the first half.  Then they decided to let him shoot, and he continued to shoot bricks in big second half possessions.  I appreciate much of what he does, but the shot selection needs to improve.  He hasn't earned the right to force shots.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Nukem2 on February 28, 2010, 01:54:52 PM
Buzz may not make a change, but he's openly criticized Coobie for his shot selection.  He's the only player on the team that I see force offense for himself (some would call this selfish).  He did not do a good job of taking it to the hoop today.  He did a good job of taking it to the hoop in the first half.  Then they decided to let him shoot, and he continued to shoot bricks in big second half possessions.  I appreciate much of what he does, but the shot selection needs to improve.  He hasn't earned the right to force shots.
Kudos to Coobey today.  My only continuing problem is his proclivity to take treys off the dribble.  I think he is zero for the season in that respect.  Needs to shoot treys off catch-and-shoot situations only.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: OhioGoldenEagle on February 28, 2010, 01:58:45 PM
I think he should be SOG.  no teal. 

+ 1

In spite of his string of missed 3's, he played REALLY well today.  He was crucial early in the game, taking his man off the dribble and scoring in the paint, which got us off to a good start and enough of a cushion to win this game.  He is the SoG of today's game IMO.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: The Lens on February 28, 2010, 01:59:52 PM
Jack nut?  

Anyhow, he played a great first half, and in the second half went back to his old ways.  I think Buzz is confident that he knows what he's going to get out of Coobie, but his man was playing 3 steps off of him in the second half and that really clogged things up for MU.

Yes, jack nut.  

I just don't see any reason to immediately after our 3rd road W in a row to jump on here and rip away at a starter who played 44 minutes.  Sure he does stupid things.  But so does Lazar (reach in fouls), so does DJO (lost on D), so does everyone.  
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: war1980rior on February 28, 2010, 02:02:43 PM
Yes, jack nut.  

I just don't see any reason to immediately after our 3rd road W in a row to jump on here and rip away at a starter who played 44 minutes.  Sure he does stupid things.  But so does Lazar (reach in fouls), so does DJO (lost on D), so does everyone.  

Absolutely correct.  No reason to rip on ANY of our guys.  They each played their hearts out.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Rocco on February 28, 2010, 02:04:56 PM
Yes, jack nut.  

I just don't see any reason to immediately after our 3rd road W in a row to jump on here and rip away at a starter who played 44 minutes.  Sure he does stupid things.  But so does Lazar (reach in fouls), so does DJO (lost on D), so does everyone.  
You are right, we should be praising the team.  Im guilty as anyone.  I just cant stand Cubillan and I honestly can't wait for him to be gone.  That said, what this team is doing is incredible and we should really be appreciating these awesome wins.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: wojosdojo on February 28, 2010, 02:06:25 PM
Cubbie had a great heads up steal in OT not to add lazars key strip.

Do you guys think lazar takes questionable 3s at times? Or is he told to do that because he's the leader.

Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: avid1010 on February 28, 2010, 02:07:44 PM
Yes, jack nut.  

I just don't see any reason to immediately after our 3rd road W in a row to jump on here and rip away at a starter who played 44 minutes.  Sure he does stupid things.  But so does Lazar (reach in fouls), so does DJO (lost on D), so does everyone.  

I have never, and to my knowledge no one on this board has ever, ripped Cobbie for his effort.  I see no problem with discussion on his shot selection.  I thought he played a great first half and a lousy second half.  Is that okay to say within your set of rules or am I a jack nut?
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: The Lens on February 28, 2010, 02:13:44 PM
I have never, and to my knowledge no one on this board has ever, ripped Cobbie for his effort.  I see no problem with discussion on his shot selection.  I thought he played a great first half and a lousy second half.  Is that okay to say within your set of rules or am I a jack nut?

Avid, what you're saying is much much different than what the original poster said.  You questioned DC's shot selections, the original posted called him terrible.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: GuyIncognito on February 28, 2010, 02:19:34 PM
Avid, what you're saying is much much different than what the original poster said.  You questioned DC's shot selections, the original posted called him terrible.

Please quote where I criticized his effort/character, jack nut.

Nevermind, I see you edited your post because you were wrong.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: avid1010 on February 28, 2010, 02:24:33 PM
Avid, what you're saying is much much different than what the original poster said.  You questioned DC's shot selections, the original posted called him terrible.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: NCMUFan on February 28, 2010, 02:36:36 PM
How about the heads up play against St. Johns when it was 4 against 0, St. John's misses the layup, Coobey grabs the rebound and then is fouled.  Or how about today, the inbound pass hits the SH player in the back and Coobey is their to snatch it between three SH players.  Those are huge plays when it is 3 or 4 against 1.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: TJ on February 28, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Do you guys think lazar takes questionable 3s at times?
Yes.  Especially in the Cincy game.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on February 28, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
cubi wants to win and yes he did today take some questionable shots that in the grand scheme of things could have ended up in DJO or Hayward or Ackers hands for the smae type of shot.  he is guilty of that but he really busts his ass.  he is the best we have right now.

there is no doubt Acker and cubi are weak defensively.  The Shu post player had 25 of the easiest points today becuase we cannot stop dribble penetration. 

that has been the issue all season long so i am not sure the point of after every single game...28 times now...we need to rip on Acker or cubillan for being exactly who they are.

Mu recruited them and they are the players on our team.  You can either choose to point out their deficiences ad nauseum after every game or root for them to do the best of their abilities.  ripping on them is not going to suddenly make them defend dribble penetration like DJ used to.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: mosarsour on February 28, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
I just want to know if I can call him Cubillionaire?
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Daniel on February 28, 2010, 04:24:52 PM
All I have to say is his abbreviated name should include a Cu since that is how his name starts out.  No Coo etc.  Ty :)

Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: marquette99 on February 28, 2010, 04:51:07 PM
I will apologize for calling him cube, but I watched him drive through sh 4 times for 9 pts, then end our 3-pt drought. He doesn't turn it over.  Thought he played great.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Coleman on February 28, 2010, 06:46:22 PM
I will apologize for calling him cube, but I watched him drive through sh 4 times for 9 pts, then end our 3-pt drought. He doesn't turn it over.  Thought he played great.

The lack of turnovers I think is the most overlooked stat out there. Can't say enough about a guard who plays 44 minutes and doesn't turn the ball over. Ok, so he jacked up 3-4 bad threes. You can consider those turnovers if you want, but they still had a chance at going in (he shot 33% from three point range, after all).

Basically, what I'm trying to say is...every player is going to make mistakes on offense. Cubillan's lack of turnovers allows me to overlook a couple bad shots in a game like this. His overall performance was outstanding.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on February 28, 2010, 07:23:05 PM
I hope Cooby can breakout "the worm" after he nails 6 three's against Looeyville.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 28, 2010, 10:21:56 PM
I love the kid.  Busts his ass.  I thought he made some stellar drives to the hoop today, hit at least one (maybe two) three pointers, and his defense wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be.  I never understood the crap that people give Acker and Cubes here....they're kids, busting butt for our university.

Kudos to them all.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Doctor V on February 28, 2010, 11:57:08 PM
I hope Cooby can breakout "the worm" after he nails 6 three's against Looeyville.

Its been some time. Ill say senior night
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: mugrad99 on March 01, 2010, 06:28:05 AM
I love the kid.  Busts his ass.  I thought he made some stellar drives to the hoop today, hit at least one (maybe two) three pointers, and his defense wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be.  I never understood the crap that people give Acker and Cubes here....they're CREAN'Skids, busting butt for our university.

fixed it before anyone else did
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: war1980rior on March 01, 2010, 09:00:00 AM
I love the kid.  Busts his ass.  I thought he made some stellar drives to the hoop today, hit at least one (maybe two) three pointers, and his defense wasn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be.  I never understood the crap that people give Acker and Cubes here....they're kids, busting butt for our university.

Kudos to them all.

+1.  They've both played well beyond expectations, considering during pre-season we didn't expect either to get much playing time.  Yeah, they may occasionally do something I don't like, but I scream just as much each time Lazar gets a reach in foul.  They've contributed a ton this year!  These are a group of seniors we should all be very proud of.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 01, 2010, 09:34:07 AM
fixed it before anyone else did

LOL.  Yes, that is definitely the reason why some people here have hated on these kids, because of who recruited them.  Pathetic, but that's the reason for a few posters.
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: Ready2Fly on March 01, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
I just want to know if I can call him Cubillionaire?

It's not "Cubillionaire," it's "The Cubillionaire."
Title: Re: Before you rip on Cubillan...
Post by: damuts222 on March 01, 2010, 09:44:35 AM
 Who wants to be a Cubillionaire? Thats awful I apogize  :D