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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TheTulsaWarrior on August 26, 2020, 08:57:39 AM
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Doc Rivers represents the best of the Marquette family. I'm proud of him and the other current and past players and coaches who are standing up for the real American Dream of equality and justice. They refuse to "shut up and dribble." https://twitter.com/i/status/1298475639863992321
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A truly fine human being.
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
Yes, TheTulsaWarrior, with his 144 total posts loves to hear himself talk. LOL.
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
lol
Of all the threads you pick to throw a tantrum about, its this one?
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
Ok? Bye
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
Irony.
I think it stems from the term "Special snowflake", meaning unique, delicate and mentally fragile. Falls under the "participation prize" umbrella. IE "Well, aren't you a special snowflake!" It is used to describe someone w weak emotional fortitude, someone who needs constant validation and positive reinforcement but is in actuality a giant vagina.
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
Imagine being this fragile.
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
Did you consider starting basketball related topics? A lineup thread started yesterday
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This board is hot garbage. I used to come here for MU hoops news/opinion. Like everything else in 2020, it's been destroyed by an active vocal minority (5000+ posters who love to hear themselves talk) who look at everything through a political lens. I'm done. Deleting my account. Good riddance.
While I agree this is not the place for this topic, you can do what most do and ignore the posts.
This has been a great site for MU basketball but I would never come here for COVID or political news or insight.
I don't care what athletes have to say about political issues and I don't care what CBS News has to say about sports.
I like Doc and he is entitled to his opinions but it carries as much weight as my next door neighbor (who I also like).
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Yeah! Shut up and dribble!
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Yeah! Shut up and dribble!
What part of "he is entitled to his opinions" = "Shut up and dribble"?
I find it offensive to give more credibility to a celebrity and multi-millionaire that other regular citizens of this country. This happens way to frequently with both Democrats and Republicans.
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What part of "he is entitled to his opinions" = "Shut up and dribble"?
I find it offensive to give more credibility to a celebrity and multi-millionaire that other regular citizens of this country. This happens way to frequently with both Democrats and Republicans.
I don't know if this is "credible," but when someone famous gets behind something, it certainly carries more weight than if your next door neighbor does.
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I don't know if this is "credible," but when someone famous gets behind something, it certainly carries more weight than if your next door neighbor does.
That's my point. Thank you.
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What part of "he is entitled to his opinions" = "Shut up and dribble"?
I find it offensive to give more credibility to a celebrity and multi-millionaire that other regular citizens of this country. This happens way to frequently with both Democrats and Republicans.
IMO, Doc is a little bit more than a celebrity. He is a leader of a highly visible organization. And the way he handled the Clippers during the whole Donald Stirling incident kind of elevated him into a rare position regarding race relations within the NBA. And he has always handled that moral authority with grace, intelligence, and compassion. Just my 2 cents.
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IMO, Doc is a little bit more than a celebrity. He is a leader of a highly visible organization. And the way he handled the Clippers during the whole Donald Stirling incident kind of elevated him into a rare position regarding race relations within the NBA. And he has always handled that moral authority with grace, intelligence, and compassion. Just my 2 cents.
Fair enough. I didn't intend to shut down this thread. I respect all opinions. IMHO, sports people and other celebrities are given way to much credibility in regards to many issues. But I'm just some random poster looking for MU info so it really doesn't matter.
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What part of "he is entitled to his opinions" = "Shut up and dribble"?
I find it offensive to give more credibility to a celebrity and multi-millionaire that other regular citizens of this country. This happens way to frequently with both Democrats and Republicans.
This.
Some “celebrities” (like some salesmen, plumbers, teachers, accountants, etc.) are interesting people with informed opinions. I consider Doc in this group. So (agree or disagree) when he speaks I pay attention. But no closer than I do to lots of other folks I know who are not “famous”.
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Like it or not, celebrities have a pulpit. Doc used his. Many celebrities and athletes have been condemned for NOT using their fame to make a statement. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. And if that is the case, be damned for something you believe to be right. It is easier to take criticism with a clear conscience.
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If I had celebrity I would no doubt be using it to promote my thoughts including Marquette basketball.
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Most of us have MU degrees and feel that education give credence to our opinions. Doc Rivers falls into this group as well. He also has a platform for which he can display his voice. I can understand those that call for Kanye or Kyrie or Lebron "stay in their lane" (Whether or not I agree) but when that extends to educated individuals, that literally have the same education as those who would have him hush up. I cannot figure that logic out.
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Kerr and Popovich have used their pulpit.
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IMO, Doc is a little bit more than a celebrity. He is a leader of a highly visible organization. And the way he handled the Clippers during the whole Donald Stirling incident kind of elevated him into a rare position regarding race relations within the NBA. And he has always handled that moral authority with grace, intelligence, and compassion. Just my 2 cents.
+1,000.
Go, Doc!
And bye, Felicia Mods, Delete
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Kerr and Popovich have used their pulpit.
They are 100% entitled to their opinion. Just remember they are basketball coaches first and foremost.
Remember, Kerr made the error of stating the NBA had no rule against not standing for the anthem but the NFL did. 100% wrong.
Is he a bad guy, No. But he and other celebrities and sports icons are not the best source of information.
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It is easier to take criticism with a clear conscience.
I think our president the perfect example of this.
Not that it matters, but I think Trump is an ass.
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Just remember they are basketball coaches first and foremost.
So?
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They are 100% entitled to their opinion. Just remember they are basketball coaches first and foremost.
Remember, Kerr made the error of stating the NBA had no rule against not standing for the anthem but the NFL did. 100% wrong.
Is he a bad guy, No. But he and other celebrities and sports icons are not the best source of information.
The point is they have influence that you or I don't have. (Assuming you're not famous.)
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They are 100% entitled to their opinion. Just remember they are basketball coaches first and foremost.
Remember, Kerr made the error of stating the NBA had no rule against not standing for the anthem but the NFL did. 100% wrong.
Is he a bad guy, No. But he and other celebrities and sports icons are not the best source of information.
When you form an opinion does someone say "you're entitled to your opinion but just remember he's a business person (guessing? Idk what you do) first and foremost so he's not the best source of information" what do you then say to lend credence to your opinion?
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When you form an opinion does someone say "you're entitled to your opinion but just remember he's a business person (guessing? Idk what you do) first and foremost so he's not the best source of information" what do you then say to lend credence to your opinion?
I would agree. But I'm not supporting or promoting any opinion other than be careful who you listen to. I am no expert on race relations or police policies. Doc is no expert and either is the Republican, Kanye West.
IMHO we should listen to experts in their fields, be it politics or COVID or sports, etc. Doc is an expert in basketball. I'm proud that he is an MU alum and I'd take him as our coach any day.
We will agree to disagree on this. Regardless of platforms, I like to look at who the person is not who the media proclaims them to be.
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I would agree. But I'm not supporting or promoting any opinion other than be careful who you listen to. I am no expert on race relations or police policies. Doc is no expert and either is the Republican, Kanye West.
IMHO we should listen to experts in their fields, be it politics or COVID or sports, etc. Doc is an expert in basketball. I'm proud that he is an MU alum and I'd take him as our coach any day.
We will agree to disagree on this. Regardless of platforms, I like to look at who the person is not who the media proclaims them to be.
I'd agree with you ... except you are not an expert in the field of "who others should listen to."
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Doc received death threats while at Marquette because of who he fell in love with.
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So?
So? Do you take tax opinions from your doctor? Do you get your news from the Comedy Channel? Do you call a veterinarian if your car gets stolen?
I support people's rights to agree with or be swayed by celebrities but I don't have to agree with it. (That they should listen to celebrities; I am not commenting on Doc's comments because it is not what I have an issue with)
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I'd agree with you ... except you are not an expert in the field of "who others should listen to."
100% agree. I am not. Just a random internet poster. I support the freedom to read, agree and disagree with any thoughts.
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I would agree. But I'm not supporting or promoting any opinion other than be careful who you listen to. I am no expert on race relations or police policies. Doc is no expert and either is the Republican, Kanye West.
IMHO we should listen to experts in their fields, be it politics or COVID or sports, etc. Doc is an expert in basketball. I'm proud that he is an MU alum and I'd take him as our coach any day.
We will agree to disagree on this. Regardless of platforms, I like to look at who the person is not who the media proclaims them to be.
While I agree with you about Kanye West, not because he supports Trump, but because he's an uneducated, bipolar individual with a huge God complex. Disclaimer: The middle is not an issue for the average joe but with his platform added to being uneducated and having a God complex then yes it's a problem.
Back to Doc, he's a black american who grew up in an era where there was still discrimination and grew up in a predominantly high crime black neighborhood just west of an unbelievably stuffy wealthy white neighborhood and just south of a super racist blue collar neighborhood. Then went to an extremely white private school for upper middle class individuals where he fell in love with a White girl. So I would say that makes him entitled to give "expert" takes on the matter of race relations from an educated black man's perspective who's likely seen it from all sides.
I agree with you about a lot of celebrities just that tweet out stupid things and hop on the next SJW cause but there are certain very well educated celebrities that do have extensive life experience beyond sports or Hollywood and I do not believe it's worth muzzling them because "they're [celebrities] first and foremost".
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So? Do you take tax opinions from your doctor? Do you get your news from the Comedy Channel? Do you call a veterinarian if your car gets stolen?
I support people's rights to agree with or be swayed by celebrities but I don't have to agree with it. (That they should listen to celebrities; I am not commenting on Doc's comments because it is not what I have an issue with)
So whose opinions are worth hearing on matters of racial injustice?
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Good job Doc. He has the life experiences to be credible and the notoriety to hopefully make a difference. Good for him.
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So whose opinions are worth hearing on matters of racial injustice?
I have never said anyone's opinion does not matter. I only said that that celebrity's opinions don't matter more than anyone else.
That said, I would value an attorney's opinion mostly. Not exclusively. I also like to think that there are some fair minded news reporters. Just my opinion which doesn't mean much.
Let's get everyone educated and out to vote.
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Silence is violence.
Good for celebrities for speaking up. I hope they continue to do so.
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Silence is violence.
Good for celebrities for speaking up. I hope they continue to do so.
They don’t like when they protest silently by kneeling. They don’t like when they speak up. Maybe they just don’t like them at all.
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Doc received death threats while at Marquette because of who he fell in love with.
his teammates turned against him too.
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Doc received death threats while at Marquette because of who he fell in love with.
Yes, he knows about it, he lived it!
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#fellinlove
You sound like my 13 year old daughter.
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In defense of my initial post, Doc Rivers is a Marquette icon and one of the most respected voices in not only the nation's basketball community but in the African American Community. Was it a political statement or simply voicing Marquette's mission statement of "being the difference."
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@MarquetteU: We stand with the @Bucks.
We stand with the @Brewers
We stand with our state.
We stand for racial justice.
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Black Lives Matter.
We love you, Glenn.
We Are Marquette!
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I defense of my initial post, Doc Rivers is a Marquette icon and one of the most respected voices in not only the nation's basketball community but in the African American Community. Was it a political statement or simply voicing Marquette's mission statement of "being the difference."
It embarrasses me that you feel the need to defend a wonderful initial post. I would like to express support for Doc as well, and state that this is not the first time I've been proud that he is associated with the same alma mater as I am.
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It embarrasses me that you feel the need to defend a wonderful initial post. I would like to express support for Doc as well, and state that this is not the first time I've been proud that he is associated with the same alma mater as I am.
Amen and amen.
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#fellinlove
You sound like my 13 year old daughter.
Do you.... do you think 13 year old girls are the only ones who believe in love?
#toomanlyforlove
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Yes......why why yes I do.
#softy
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Yes......why why yes I do.
#softy
I'm sure she'll appreciate your toast at her wedding some day where you substitute the word "love" for "carnal lust"
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Yes......why why yes I do.
#softy
Toxic masculinity on full display.
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They are 100% entitled to their opinion. Just remember they are basketball coaches first and foremost.
First and foremost they are men.
Men who deserve the same rights and privileges as anyone else under the constitution.
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Yes......why why yes I do.
#softy
I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not. I hope it is.
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First and foremost they are men.
Men who deserve the same rights and privileges as anyone else under the constitution.
He's not arguing against this.
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I would agree. But I'm not supporting or promoting any opinion other than be careful who you listen to. I am no expert on race relations or police policies. Doc is no expert and either is the Republican, Kanye West.
IMHO we should listen to experts in their fields, be it politics or COVID or sports, etc. Doc is an expert in basketball. I'm proud that he is an MU alum and I'd take him as our coach any day.
We will agree to disagree on this. Regardless of platforms, I like to look at who the person is not who the media proclaims them to be.
You all read Kendi?
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First and foremost they are men.
Men who deserve the same rights and privileges as anyone else under the constitution.
NM
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I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not. I hope it is.
Of course it is.....people are just a little amped up on here.
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I think our president the perfect example of this.
Not that it matters, but I think Trump is an ass.
why go there? Why?
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I would agree. But I'm not supporting or promoting any opinion other than be careful who you listen to. I am no expert on race relations or police policies. Doc is no expert and either is the Republican, Kanye West.
IMHO we should listen to experts in their fields, be it politics or COVID or sports, etc. Doc is an expert in basketball. I'm proud that he is an MU alum and I'd take him as our coach any day.
We will agree to disagree on this. Regardless of platforms, I like to look at who the person is not who the media proclaims them to be.
Doc has some very real world experience on race relations. For sure at Marquette and during his time in Atlanta. I think that gives him more credence than an average person.
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Of course it is.....people are just a little amped up on here.
I have apparently lost my ability to tell (without the teal, at least).
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First and foremost they are men.
Men who deserve the same rights and privileges as anyone else under the constitution.
You are just looking to disagree. I have been consistent in stating that all opinions matter and should be considered. From men or women. I just don't think being a celebrity gives you more credibility than anyone else, including you. This is just my humble opinion.
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Doc has some very real world experience on race relations. For sure at Marquette and during his time in Atlanta. I think that gives him more credence than an average person.
His home was burned down bc he has a white wife. Imagine being a Dad and having every toy your kids own being destroyed. How hopeless would you feel? I will listen to Doc Rivers talk about racism all day long.
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Doc Rivers is a good man. He's generally been fair in his commentary on matters of race and social justice. He's right to be outraged by what happened in Kenosha, especially coming on the heels of Floyd case.
It would be helpful to the cause if he, LeBron, etc., would also include statements about the importance to comply with the orders of Police, and to not resist arrest.
Unfortunately it seems both sides of this issue won't concede anything. Those who staunchly support police, point toward lack of compliance as "justification," and those who support the victims historically make no comment about their resistance serving as a catalyst.
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Doc Rivers represents the best of the Marquette family. I'm proud of him and the other current and past players and coaches who are standing up for the real American Dream of equality and justice. They refuse to "shut up and dribble." https://twitter.com/i/status/1298475639863992321
How is he representing his family?
His father is Grady Rivers, a Police Lieutenant in the Chicago Police Department. His father would attend Glenn's high school games at Proviso East in Maywood Illinois in uniform. He coached Glenn's little league games with his CPD squad car on the field with the radio turned up all the way so he could hear the dispatcher.
Grady was very proud to have been part of the Chicago Police Department. He should be. Grady passed away in 2007 so we'll never know what he thinks about his son's suggestion that the police seek out African Americans to shoot them.
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Doc Rivers is a good man. He's generally been fair in his commentary on matters of race and social justice. He's right to be outraged by what happened in Kenosha, especially coming on the heels of Floyd case.
It would be helpful to the cause if he, LeBron, etc., would also include statements about the importance to comply with the orders of Police, and to not resist arrest.
Unfortunately it seems both sides of this issue won't concede anything. Those who staunchly support police, point toward lack of compliance as "justification," and those who support the victims historically make no comment about their resistance serving as a catalyst.
Maybe bc if Sam Hauser were to resist, he would get tackled, if Jamal Cain were to resist, he would get shot. We saw it plain as day with the 17 year shooter in Kenosha. He defied orders 2-3 times, kept walking towards police and nothing happened to him.
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It would be helpful to the cause if he, LeBron, etc., would also include statements about the importance to comply with the orders of Police, and to not resist arrest.
Unfortunately it seems both sides of this issue won't concede anything. Those who staunchly support police, point toward lack of compliance as "justification," and those who support the victims historically make no comment about their resistance serving as a catalyst.
What police order did Breonna Taylor resist? The ones the police claim to have made but that neighbors say was BS, and that they can't prove because there was no video footage?
Look, anybody can find all kinds of justifications for these murders of Black folks. Or they can change the subject to Black-on-Black crime, family values, reverse racism, "evil liberals" or whatever else they need so they can feel better about themselves.
Back to the OP ... I'm very proud of my friend and fellow alum, Glenn Rivers.
We Are Marquette! Black Lives Matter.
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Doc Rivers is a good man. He's generally been fair in his commentary on matters of race and social justice. He's right to be outraged by what happened in Kenosha, especially coming on the heels of Floyd case.
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It would be helpful to the cause if he, LeBron, etc., would also include statements about the importance to comply with the orders of Police, and to not resist arrest.
Unfortunately it seems both sides of this issue won't concede anything. Those who staunchly support police, point toward lack of compliance as "justification," and those who support the victims historically make no comment about their resistance serving as a catalyst.
No
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Doc Rivers is a good man. He's generally been fair in his commentary on matters of race and social justice. He's right to be outraged by what happened in Kenosha, especially coming on the heels of Floyd case.
It would be helpful to the cause if he, LeBron, etc., would also include statements about the importance to comply with the orders of Police, and to not resist arrest.
Unfortunately it seems both sides of this issue won't concede anything. Those who staunchly support police, point toward lack of compliance as "justification," and those who support the victims historically make no comment about their resistance serving as a catalyst.
On "side" is literally conceding their lives. Doc is 100% right, black people have been enormously restrained and patient in trying to get the other "side" to understand that executing them in the streets is unacceptable.
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On "side" is literally conceding their lives. Doc is 100% right, black people have been enormously restrained and patient in trying to get the other "side" to understand that executing them in the streets is unacceptable.
Yeah, I can just imagine if the interwebs, social media, etc, were around decades ago.
"Jackie Robinson might have a better argument to make if he didn't steal so many bases. Why does he have to piss off all the white ballplayers by being better than they are?"
That's a joke, of course, but can you imagine what interwebs trolls woulda been twitting about MLK?
Wrong is wrong. Stop discriminating against Black folks just because they are Black. Stop shooting them, accusing them, arresting them, making dog-whistle comments about them, trying to justify your racism toward them, etc. It's effen 2020. You don't have to be "woke," just wake the eff up.
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Wrong is wrong. Stop discriminating against Black folks just because they are Black. Stop shooting them, accusing them, arresting them, making dog-whistle comments about them, trying to justify your racism toward them, etc. It's effen 2020. You don't have to be "woke," just wake the eff up.
Racism is WRONG and evil. Blacks have been unfairly treated. I could not agree more.
But (there is always a 'but) some people, of every race, need to be arrested and sadly shot to preserve innocent lives (yes even police lives). Absolute statements undermine the quality of the cause.
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What police order did Breonna Taylor resist? The ones the police claim to have made but that neighbors say was BS, and that they can't prove because there was no video footage?
Look, anybody can find all kinds of justifications for these murders of Black folks. Or they can change the subject to Black-on-Black crime, family values, reverse racism, "evil liberals" or whatever else they need so they can feel better about themselves.
Back to the OP ... I'm very proud of my friend and fellow alum, Glenn Rivers.
We Are Marquette! Black Lives Matter.
While Taylor did not deserve to be shot and killed and the police should be arrested, her boyfriend did shoot one of the officers upon their entering their apartment with a valid warrant:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/16/breonna-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/
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While Taylor did not deserve to be shot and killed and the police should be arrested, her boyfriend did shoot one of the officers upon their entering their apartment with a valid warrant:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/16/breonna-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/
A no knock warrant where they were plain clothed and smashing on the door in the middle of the night.
If it had been a white family, you'd hear people yelling "CASTLE DOCTRINE", and "STAND YOUR GROUND" from the rooftops. The 2A people would be EVERYWHERE.
Instead, its crickets from those people.
Better to ask yourself, "Huh, why's that?" than to defend what happened.
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A no knock warrant where they were plain clothed and smashing on the door in the middle of the night.
If it had been a white family, you'd hear people yelling "CASTLE DOCTRINE", and "STAND YOUR GROUND" from the rooftops. The 2A people would be EVERYWHERE.
Instead, its crickets from those people.
Better to ask yourself, "Huh, why's that?" than to defend what happened.
"While Taylor did not deserve to be shot and killed and the police should be arrested"
Quit trying to undermined the cause with lies. There is enough evidence to support the cause without making stuff up. The poster made their feelings crystal clear.
The ugly hate and ignorance on both sides is so sad.
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"While Taylor did not deserve to be shot and killed and the police should be arrested"
Quit trying to undermined the cause with lies. There is enough evidence to support the cause without making stuff up. The poster made their feelings crystal clear.
The ugly hate and ignorance on both sides is so sad.
Oh piss off, I can comment that no knocks are a terrible idea. And I can also comment that the people who would usually be up in arms about this sort of thing are SILENT. Nothing I said was a lie.
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While Taylor did not deserve to be shot and killed and the police should be arrested, her boyfriend did shoot one of the officers upon their entering their apartment with a valid warrant:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/16/breonna-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/
The police used a battering ram to break into the residence in the middle of the night without announcing themselves. Clearly the boyfriend thought their home was being invaded and he defended it with a lawfully possessed firearm.
And the prosecutor dismissed the indictment against the boyfriend, saying he was lawfully defending himself when he fired.
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Oh piss off, I can comment that no knocks are a terrible idea. And I can also comment that the people who would usually be up in arms about this sort of thing are SILENT. Nothing I said was a lie.
What did the poster write that you disagree with? The poster said it was wrong and the cops should be arrested. Should the families of the cops be put in prison to make you happy?
I had no problem with your opinion but you completely ignored the actual post to advance your agenda. That is BS and untruthful.
I guess I'll just 'piss off'. Enjoy your day.
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What did the poster write that you disagree with? The poster said it was wrong and the cops should be arrested. Should the families of the cops be put in prison to make you happy?
I had no problem with your opinion but you completely ignored the actual post to advance your agenda. That is BS and untruthful.
I guess I'll just 'piss off'. Enjoy your day.
Calling it a warrant, while technically true, is doing it a disservice. No knock warrants should be illegal because of situations exactly like this. Outlaw them. They're garbage and infringe on the rights of Americans.
I have no agenda, put down the airplane glue.
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Calling it a warrant, while technically true, is doing it a disservice. No knock warrants should be illegal because of situations exactly like this. Outlaw them. They're garbage and infringe on the rights of Americans.
I have no agenda, put down the airplane glue.
LOL! No agenda? Even a third grader can see your agenda. I don't even disagree with with your agenda but man up to defend it and don't hide behind a legitimate and factual post by painting that poster as bad.
As I asked before, besides arresting and trying them in court, what more do you want at this point?
I think honest and thoughtful people can debate the value of "no knock warrants", but that post didn't touch on that issue. You used it to promote your agenda.
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You are just looking to disagree. I have been consistent in stating that all opinions matter and should be considered. From men or women. I just don't think being a celebrity gives you more credibility than anyone else, including you. This is just my humble opinion.
You said that first and foremost he was a coach.
I disagree and I think Doc would as well. First and foremost, he is a husband a father, and a man. That is what drives his opinion - not the fact that he is a coach. That is why he said, “All you hear [from] Donald Trump and all of them, talking about fear. We’re the ones getting killed. We’re the ones getting shot. We’re the ones denied to live in certain communities. We’ve been hung. We’ve been shot. And all you do is keep hearing about fear.”
That was an injured man talking - not a coach.
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Our jobs defining who we are is such an odd US thing.
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Our jobs defining who we are is such an odd US thing.
And ironically a Karl Marx thing.
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LOL! No agenda? Even a third grader can see your agenda. I don't even disagree with with your agenda but man up to defend it and don't hide behind a legitimate and factual post by painting that poster as bad.
As I asked before, besides arresting and trying them in court, what more do you want at this point?
I think honest and thoughtful people can debate the value of "no knock warrants", but that post didn't touch on that issue. You used it to promote your agenda.
It's literally the first thing I said.
Reading is fundamental.
The bolded part is a no-brainer, but it hasn't happened. I want no knocks gone.
Why do I need to spell out the obvious for you twice in one post?
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It's literally the first thing I said.
Reading is fundamental.
The bolded part is a no-brainer, but it hasn't happened. I want no knocks gone.
Why do I need to spell out the obvious for you twice in one post?
The poster wrote the cops should be arrested. I didn't see where you posted it but regardless, you took issue with the post that called out the situation and the call for arrests.
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The poster wrote the cops should be arrested. I didn't see where you posted it but regardless, you took issue with the post that called out the situation and the call for arrests.
Hards can speak for himself, but my impression is that he was calling out the part where Billy implied (wrongly) that Breona Taylor's boyfriend was to blame for what happened.
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Hards can speak for himself, but my impression is that he was calling out the part where Billy implied (wrongly) that Breona Taylor's boyfriend was to blame for what happened.
He said they should be arrested. He was very clear about it. He obviously feels they are in the wrong.
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He said they should be arrested. He was very clear about it. He obviously feels they are in the wrong.
Cool.
He also wrongly blamed Breonna Taylor's boyfriend. Unless you're his sock puppet account, your need to defend him is very odd.
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Cool.
He also wrongly blamed Breonna Taylor's boyfriend. Unless you're his sock puppet account, your need to defend him is very odd.
The boyfriend is guilty but the cops should be arrested? How do you reconcile that?
You are right. I shouldn't be defending someone I don't know. I just get mad when a just movement is polluted with BS.
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The boyfriend is guilty but the cops should be arrested? How do you reconcile that?
Ask him. He's the one who wrote it.
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Again, Breonna Taylor did nothing wrong and her boyfriend was exonerated.
Had they been white and had Breonna survived, they’d have been invited to speak at this week’s Lie-A-Thon for heroically standing their ground.
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I get it now. "No agenda". Thanks for the conversation.
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I would agree. But I'm not supporting or promoting any opinion other than be careful who you listen to. I am no expert on race relations or police policies. Doc is no expert and either is the Republican, Kanye West.
IMHO we should listen to experts in their fields, be it politics or COVID or sports, etc. Doc is an expert in basketball. I'm proud that he is an MU alum and I'd take him as our coach any day.
We will agree to disagree on this. Regardless of platforms, I like to look at who the person is not who the media proclaims them to be.
I'm sorry but I don't recall people saying "Bill Bradley is an expert in basketball" and therefore should not be listened to when he spoke about tax reform or the rights of Native Americans.
Doc has more relevant personal experience with the issues in the dialogue that is relevant today than nearly any man alive (MU issues, Atlanta house, Donald Sterling) and has also proven during his career to be a great leader. I'm happy to listen to Doc on this subject and wish he would speak up and speak out more thereby using his position of notoriety as a platform for the change that is necessary in our society because in his case the notoriety gets the attention but the substance behind it is what will make the change.
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Cool.
He also wrongly blamed Breonna Taylor's boyfriend. Unless you're his sock puppet account, your need to defend him is very odd.
Stating facts is not blaming.
-there was a warrant
-the cops knocked
-the boyfriend shot In what was likely legally self defense
-the police engaged in extreme behavior that resulted in Taylor’s death (but not in her bed as has been claimed) and should be arrested.
I realize that in today’s environment being in the middle and taking a principled approach is one thing both sides oppose. You have to choose your “facts” depending upon your political persuasion and stick with them regardless. As the article I posted showed, there are myths perpetuated by both sides. Apparently it wrong to seek the whole story. This is how we ended up with Trump.
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Stating facts is not blaming.
-there was a warrant
-the cops knocked
-the boyfriend shot In what was likely legally self defense
-the police engaged in extreme behavior that resulted in Taylor’s death (but not in her bed as has been claimed) and should be arrested.
I realize that in today’s environment being in the middle and taking a principled approach is one thing both sides oppose. You have to choose your “facts” depending upon your political persuasion and stick with them regardless. As the article I posted showed, there are myths perpetuated by both sides, the same which is being done in Kenosha. Apparently it wrong to seek the whole story. This is how we ended up with Trump.
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Stating facts is not blaming.
-there was a warrant
-the cops knocked
-the boyfriend shot In what was likely legally self defense
-the police engaged in extreme behavior that resulted in Taylor’s death (but not in her bed as has been claimed) and should be arrested.
I realize that in today’s environment being in the middle and taking a principled approach is one thing both sides oppose. You have to choose your “facts” depending upon your political persuasion and stick with them regardless. As the article I posted showed, there are myths perpetuated by both sides. Apparently it wrong to seek the whole story. This is how we ended up with Trump.
Those facts are very much up for debate. In the article you linked, the cops claim to have announced their presence, a claim that is refuted by Breonna's boyfriend, and the neighbors. Additionally, why have a no knock warrant and be in plain clothes if you're going to immediately announce you're the police here to execute a warrant? Pretty strange, ain'it?
This is where I take issue. People blindly believe police officers because they have never been mistreated by them. Ever make a mistake, and realize that a simple white lie can change the narrative? The police are counting on the average (white) person to believe them no matter what. This is also why no knock warrants are terrible without body cams. Because now we have no idea what happened for sure, and an innocent woman is dead.
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Hey ... about Glenn Rivers ...
So proud of him! Really rooting for his Clippers now because I want to see him hoist that trophy.
In the real world, NBA games and even championships are relatively trivial. But still ... they are playing, and his team has a legit shot, and I'd like to see the great Marquette alum - and great human being - win the title.
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Those facts are very much up for debate. In the article you linked, the cops claim to have announced their presence, a claim that is refuted by Breonna's boyfriend, and the neighbors. Additionally, why have a no knock warrant and be in plain clothes if you're going to immediately announce you're the police here to execute a warrant? Pretty strange, ain'it?
This is where I take issue. People blindly believe police officers because they have never been mistreated by them. Ever make a mistake, and realize that a simple white lie can change the narrative? The police are counting on the average (white) person to believe them no matter what. This is also why no knock warrants are terrible without body cams. Because now we have no idea what happened for sure, and an innocent woman is dead.
people also believe everything they read on the internet from their chosen sources. For example" "Jacob Blake raped a 14 year old," "a police officer in Oakland was killed by a BLM protester," and "the Portland rioters are right wing agents and provocatures." Don't forget, the riots in Chicago were triggered by a false Twitter post saying a 15 year old boy had been murdered by police when in fact it was a 20 year old suspect with a gun who was running for police...and he was not killed.
Instead of taking social media postings at face value to gin up outrage how about we dig deeper to find out the truth before we react.
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people also believe everything they read on the internet from their chosen sources. For example" "Jacob Blake raped a 14 year old," "a police officer in Oakland was killed by a BLM protester," and "the Portland rioters are right wing agents and provocatures." Don't forget, the riots in Chicago were triggered by a false Twitter post saying a 15 year old boy had been murdered by police when in fact it was a 20 year old suspect with a gun who was running for police...and he was not killed.
Instead of taking social media postings at face value to gin up outrage how about we dig deeper to find out the truth before we react.
I'm not sure I've taken social media postings at face value, so I don't disagree.
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Hey ... about Glenn Rivers ...
So proud of him! Really rooting for his Clippers now because I want to see him hoist that trophy.
In the real world, NBA games and even championships are relatively trivial. But still ... they are playing, and his team has a legit shot, and I'd like to see the great Marquette alum - and great human being - win the title.
+1
Love that Rivers is speaking out and I feel that Marquette's basketball alums and current players have acquitted themselves very well in this environment. Clearly they got the message of Cura Personalis.
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people also believe everything they read on the internet from their chosen sources. For example" "Jacob Blake raped a 14 year old," "a police officer in Oakland was killed by a BLM protester," and "the Portland rioters are right wing agents and provocatures." Don't forget, the riots in Chicago were triggered by a false Twitter post saying a 15 year old boy had been murdered by police when in fact it was a 20 year old suspect with a gun who was running for police...and he was not killed.
Instead of taking social media postings at face value to gin up outrage how about we dig deeper to find out the truth before we react.
Not just social media. This morning on a sports radio show, I think ESPN Radio but I could be wrong, they stated that Jacob Blake was killed.
This movement is too important to be diluted by misinformation.
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Most posters don't understand the role Bill Russell played in the development of the NBA. He had the courage to risk everything to speak out on racial injustice. You do not forfeit your right to make a political statement if you are an All American or an All Star. To say "shut up and dribble" is un-American. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/27/bill-russell-nba-boycott/
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Most posters don't understand the role Bill Russell played in the development of the NBA. He had the courage to risk everything to speak out on racial injustice. You do not forfeit your right to make a political statement if you are an All American or an All Star. To say "shut up and dribble" is un-American. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/27/bill-russell-nba-boycott/
I think these same people are not quite so offended when a white All Star speaks out.
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Most posters don't understand the role Bill Russell played in the development of the NBA. He had the courage to risk everything to speak out on racial injustice. You do not forfeit your right to make a political statement if you are an All American or an All Star. To say "shut up and dribble" is un-American. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/27/bill-russell-nba-boycott/
Which posters have said being an All-Star or All American should forfeit the right to speak out or make a polical statement? Please call them out by name because they are wrong.
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I'm not sure I've taken social media postings at face value, so I don't disagree.
last night my neighbor was over and we were having some beers. He was raised a moderate Republican (his dad was chief strategist for both Ahold and Pete Wilson and was played by Jeff Goldblum in a movie about running Yeltsin's campaign) but is now solidly Biden. He brought up the 14 year old thing...the first I'd heard of it. So I googled and came across PolitiFact WI which debunked it. The point being that there is so much out there that you don't know what's legit and what isn't, especially when it's so easily dissimated and sounds so plausible that intelligent individuals on any side of the spectrum can be misled.
The most successful field that has result from the Trump error is that of fact checker. I feel bad for Daniel Dale on CNN, it's non-stop!
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last night my neighbor was over and we were having some beers. He was raised a moderate Republican (his dad was chief strategist for both Ahold and Pete Wilson and was played by Jeff Goldblum in a movie about running Yeltsin's campaign) but is now solidly Biden. He brought up the 14 year old thing...the first I'd heard of it. So I googled and came across PolitiFact WI which debunked it. The point being that there is so much out there that you don't know what's legit and what isn't, especially when it's so easily dissimated and sounds so plausible that intelligent individuals on any side of the spectrum can be misled.
The most successful field that has result from the Trump error is that of fact checker. I feel bad for Daniel Dale on CNN, it's non-stop!
I won't disagree that anyone can be fooled, of course. Some folks want to be fooled, and when they're fooled they can't accept it because it messes with their world view and they feel foolish. The real problem is when folks dig in their heels and can't admit they made mistakes because they know society will tear them apart for it. So instead they double down and continue to debate or distract.
Step one of fixing our culture is to make it okay to be wrong, and then having society be accepting of that when it is admitted.
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While I agree this is not the place for this topic, you can do what most do and ignore the posts.
This has been a great site for MU basketball but I would never come here for COVID or political news or insight.
I don't care what athletes have to say about political issues and I don't care what CBS News has to say about sports.
I like Doc and he is entitled to his opinions but it carries as much weight as my next door neighbor (who I also like).
Amen.
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Amen.
While the typical/usual virtue signalers here are proud of Doc, it’s seems like the dominant opinion agrees with you ...
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All eyes on Conference Semi-Finals with NBA TV Ratings down by a whopping 27%
https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/basketball/news-all-eyes-on-conference-semi-finals-with-nba-tv-ratings-down-by-a-whopping-27
Many people across the United States of America and the rest of the globe felt that the NBA was too involved in political matters in the country, and less focused on playing basketball.
But this is not the case with other sports.
MLB TV ratings surge, particularly among younger viewers
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2002255
Which Sport is Doing Best on TV Since Return from COVID?
https://newstalk870.am/which-sport-is-doing-best-on-tv-since-return-from-covid/
Analysts say it's perhaps for a variety of reasons, but so far the sport that Americans (and others) appear to be watching is the NHL. Of the major American sports (not including the mess that is NASCAR now), hockey appears to be it.
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While the typical/usual virtue signalers here are proud of Doc, it’s seems like the dominant opinion agrees with you ...
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All eyes on Conference Semi-Finals with NBA TV Ratings down by a whopping 27%
https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/basketball/news-all-eyes-on-conference-semi-finals-with-nba-tv-ratings-down-by-a-whopping-27
Many people across the United States of America and the rest of the globe felt that the NBA was too involved in political matters in the country, and less focused on playing basketball.
But this is not the case with other sports.
MLB TV ratings surge, particularly among younger viewers
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2002255
Which Sport is Doing Best on TV Since Return from COVID?
https://newstalk870.am/which-sport-is-doing-best-on-tv-since-return-from-covid/
Analysts say it's perhaps for a variety of reasons, but so far the sport that Americans (and others) appear to be watching is the NHL. Of the major American sports (not including the mess that is NASCAR now), hockey appears to be it.
Rockets Thunder game 7, largest audience for a first round game on ESPN in 3 years. Largest audience for a cable sports program since the nfl draft.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1301634882922217473
NHL down double digits after post restart highs.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2020/09/stanley-cup-ratings-decline-nbc-post-restart-highs/
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While the typical/usual virtue signalers here are proud of Doc, it’s seems like the dominant opinion agrees with you ...
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All eyes on Conference Semi-Finals with NBA TV Ratings down by a whopping 27%
https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/basketball/news-all-eyes-on-conference-semi-finals-with-nba-tv-ratings-down-by-a-whopping-27
Many people across the United States of America and the rest of the globe felt that the NBA was too involved in political matters in the country, and less focused on playing basketball.
But this is not the case with other sports.
MLB TV ratings surge, particularly among younger viewers
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2002255
Which Sport is Doing Best on TV Since Return from COVID?
https://newstalk870.am/which-sport-is-doing-best-on-tv-since-return-from-covid/
Analysts say it's perhaps for a variety of reasons, but so far the sport that Americans (and others) appear to be watching is the NHL. Of the major American sports (not including the mess that is NASCAR now), hockey appears to be it.
I'm sorry to hear you are ashamed of our fellow Marquette alum, Glenn Rivers.
I'm still very proud of him. If being proud of a person who tells the truth, who speaks from the heart, who speaks for millions in a class that has been beaten down by systemic racism for hundreds of years, and who has been a wonderful husband, father and role model is "virtue signaling," I guess I plead guilty to being a virtue signaler.
Expressing admiration for racists, as some have done here, I guess that's what? Douchenozzle signaling?
Despite the wish of racists everywhere, the NBA will be fine.
I'm a hockey fan, but it has always been a niche sport in the U.S.
NHL ratings are roughly 1/4 to 1/3 as high as the NBA's.
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Shocking the NBA ratings would be down. Can’t figure out why. Could it be that they’ve been playing games starting at 11:00 AM ET and continuing them throughout the day during the weekdays while some people need to work or be in classes? Nah. Could it be that their entire Playoffs has gone on in the heart of summer when it’s normally starting in April, and currently getting outside and enjoying nice weather is a pretty big priority given social distancing? Nah. Could it be that TV ratings for pretty much all sports are down? Nah.
It’s that everyone involved is a Marxist Communist. Led by Doc Rivers. Sad!
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I gotta admit, I'm not watching much NBA outside the Bucks, haven't watched a second of NHL, and only occasionally watching the Brewers. The NFL starts next week, and I can't think of a Packer season I have anticipated less.
I think there is just too much other stuff going on right now. Sports just aren't that important right now.
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Still trying to figure out what kind of person - let alone any kind of Marquette alum - WOULDN’T be proud if Rivers, and why.
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Heisey believes it's far more important for professional sports leagues to coddle snowflakes and chase TV ratings than it is to stand on the right side of history.
He's made this point only a few hundred times over the past five years, and I think we can all move on now. He is who we thought he is.
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Shocking the NBA ratings would be down. Can’t figure out why. Could it be that they’ve been playing games starting at 11:00 AM ET and continuing them throughout the day during the weekdays while some people need to work or be in classes? Nah. Could it be that their entire Playoffs has gone on in the heart of summer when it’s normally starting in April, and currently getting outside and enjoying nice weather is a pretty big priority given social distancing? Nah. Could it be that TV ratings for pretty much all sports are down? Nah.
It’s that everyone involved is a Marxist Communist. Led by Doc Rivers. Sad!
NBA ratings have been in a downward spiral for years. They’ve just entered a warp speed decline in the bubble. Ratings for ABC games, where obviously the marquee games are broadcast, are down 45% since 2011-12. Last seasons Finals series saw a double digit decline.
Not to mention other than hockey, which has never been a serious television viewer competitor for them, they have postseason to themselves among sports.There is no college football, no NFL preseason, there’s been one golf major, etc. Many activities in the country remain scaled back or just canceled across the country.
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NBA ratings have been in a downward spiral for years. They’ve just entered a warp speed decline in the bubble. Ratings for ABC games, where obviously the marquee games are broadcast, are down 45% since 2011-12. Last seasons Finals series saw a double digit decline.
Not to mention other than hockey, which has never been a serious television viewer competitor for them, they have postseason to themselves among sports.There is no college football, no NFL preseason, there’s been one golf major, etc. Many activities in the country remain scaled back or just canceled across the country.
Ratings for almost all sporting events are decreasing. This isn’t news.
But anyway, the NBA knows their brand and their audience. They’re fine.
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Heisey believes it's far more important for professional sports leagues to coddle snowflakes and chase TV ratings than it is to stand on the right side of history.
He's made this point only a few hundred times over the past five years, and I think we can all move on now. He is who we thought he is.
Pukuni never misses a chance to signal his moral superiority over those that disagree with him.
He's made this point only a few hundred times over the past five years, and I think we can all move on now. He is who we thought he is.
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Ratings for almost all sporting events are decreasing. This isn’t news.
But anyway, the NBA knows their brand and their audience. They’re fine.
Does that brand also include the human rights abuses in their Chinese camps.
Report: N.B.A.’s Academies in China Abused Athletes
The report said athletes were struck by coaches, housed in crowded conditions and not given schooling as promised.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/sports/basketball/nba-china-abuse.html#:~:text=The%20N.B.A.%20had%20three%20academies,Uighurs%2C%20a%20largely%20Muslim%20minority.
The N.B.A. had three academies in China, including one in the Xinjiang region, in the far northwest of the country, where the government has been accused of perpetrating human rights abuses against the Uighurs, a largely Muslim minority.
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Doc Rivers continues to be a great representative of Marquette on and off the court.
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Does that brand also include the human rights abuses in their Chinese camps.
Report: N.B.A.’s Academies in China Abused Athletes
The report said athletes were struck by coaches, housed in crowded conditions and not given schooling as promised.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/sports/basketball/nba-china-abuse.html#:~:text=The%20N.B.A.%20had%20three%20academies,Uighurs%2C%20a%20largely%20Muslim%20minority.
The N.B.A. had three academies in China, including one in the Xinjiang region, in the far northwest of the country, where the government has been accused of perpetrating human rights abuses against the Uighurs, a largely Muslim minority.
Yep they should be more wary of China.
Not sure how that is relevant to your post but Ok.
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Heisie 2.0 never misses a chance to signal his moral superiority over those that disagree with him.
He's made this point only a few hundred times over the past five years, and I think we can all move on now. He is who we thought he is.
See how easy this is?
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Does that brand also include the human rights abuses in their Chinese camps.
Ideally, yes. The NBA should stop doing business with abusive companies and/or countries, or at the very least work to affect serious change.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with Marquette alums, current students, faculty and administration being proud of a wonderful representative of Marquette University like Glenn "Doc" Rivers.
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Ratings for almost all sporting events are decreasing. This isn’t news.
But anyway, the NBA knows their brand and their audience. They’re fine.
Really?
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/nfl-ratings-increase-for-second-straight-year-11578006629
https://sportsnaut.com/2019/10/mlb-playoffs-tv-ratings-soared-considerably-this-year/amp/
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Really?
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/nfl-ratings-increase-for-second-straight-year-11578006629
https://sportsnaut.com/2019/10/mlb-playoffs-tv-ratings-soared-considerably-this-year/amp/
Increasing from pretty close to all time lows.
Look, if you don't like the NBA or its politics, don't watch. No one here really cares.
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Nothing wrong with Doc or other athletes choosing to exercise their freedom of speech.
I believe where they lose some of is when they take an extreme viewpoint complaining/likening sport to modern day slavery.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/sports/basketball/slavery-anniversary-basketball-owners.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=athletes+who+have+suggested+it+is+a+form+of+slavery&oq=athletes+who+have+suggested+it+is+a+form+of+slavery&aqs=chrome..69i57.27339j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Pukuni never misses a chance to signal his moral superiority over those that disagree with him.
In your case, intellectual superiority as well.
I'm also funnier, and probably better looking.
Don't feel too bad. Your copy-and-paste skills put mine to shame.
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Kentucky Derby Ratings "Brutal".
Perhaps if the horses wouldn't have kneeled...
https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1302749263634534400?s=19
Go Doc. 👍
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Kentucky Derby Ratings "Brutal".
Perhaps if the horses wouldn't have kneeled...
https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1302749263634534400?s=19
Go Doc. 👍
It's those Marxist ponies from the BHM movement!
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Context is very important here and Fluffy touched on it a little. Viewership for TV this summer is very down. So yes, NBA is losing eyeballs but they are still winning veiwers.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/rockets/article/NBA-s-TV-ratings-up-since-restart-15490159.php (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/rockets/article/NBA-s-TV-ratings-up-since-restart-15490159.php)
Key stat:
the nightly prime time games on ABC, ESPN or TNT have been the most-watched programs among men 18-49 since the restart, according to the Nielsen Co.
The NBA would love to see past #s but if they are winning each night, they will still command big $$$ bc it's still the best way to rest a mass amount of people. It's the new normal and it has been accelerated by COVID-19 but I would bet the NBA had modeled this out for future years so they were ready. As long as live sports are the #1 thing on TV, the NBA will be fine.
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It's those Marxist ponies from the BHM movement!
All Hooved Animals Matter.
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All Hooved Animals Matter.
FIFY
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FIFY
Could do an Animal Farm joke but it's better I don't.
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Kentucky Derby Ratings "Brutal".
Perhaps if the horses wouldn't have kneeled...
https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1302749263634534400?s=19
Go Doc. 👍
Calling that race the Kentucky Derby was absurd. It would be akin to the Indy 500 being run in October.
KD is fun because of everything around the race, not the race itself. It's the most beautiful weekend of the year... spring has sprung. To me, it is the official start of nice weather, grilling outside, and not quite summer... but you can sniff it. A cool day in September? Not the Derby... that's college football season.
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Calling that race the Kentucky Derby was absurd. It would be akin to the Indy 500 being run in October.
KD is fun because of everything around the race, not the race itself. It's the most beautiful weekend of the year... spring has sprung. To me, it is the official start of nice weather, grilling outside, and not quite summer... but you can sniff it. A cool day in September? Not the Derby... that's college football season.
What about August?
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I think that's part of the reason for lackluster ratings with some of the sports. Everything is off of its normal calendar and rhythm. I had no idea the Indy 500 was being run until the day after. We've gone from no sports, to almost too much sports, but then its weird without crowds, etc. So nothing seems right about it.
And then the NFL starts tonight.
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Calling that race the Kentucky Derby was absurd. It would be akin to the Indy 500 being run in October.
KD is fun because of everything around the race, not the race itself. It's the most beautiful weekend of the year... spring has sprung. To me, it is the official start of nice weather, grilling outside, and not quite summer... but you can sniff it. A cool day in September? Not the Derby... that's college football season.
Mostly Sunny, afternoon high of 82 degrees. That's much better weather than many past first weekends in May, in LOU-ih-vulle.
The overall point of course is that several television sports ratings are down and don't fit the narrative that somehow people are not watching because of social justice protests and statements.
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his teammates turned against him too.
I wonder how much of that was due to the fact that she was Marotta's girlfriend, left alone for the summer while Marotta was in DC interning?
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I wonder how much of that was due to the fact that she was Marotta's girlfriend, left alone for the summer while Marotta was in DC interning?
IIRC Doc and Marc were very close friends prior to that summer.
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Sad to see Clippers go out so lamely. I was rooting for a Heat-Clippers finals, Jimmy/Jae vs Rivers.
But I'm still proud of our fellow alum, Glenn "Doc" Rivers, for having such an important voice on such an important issue.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
Thanks for reminding me that I'm doing the right thing by supporting the Bucks and the NBA. It is clear we should judge right and wrong by the ratings. Think the South would still have slavery if that were the case?
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Thanks for reminding me that I'm doing the right thing by supporting the Bucks and the NBA. It is clear we should judge right and wrong by the ratings. Think the South would still have slavery if that were the case?
Another moron comparing the social and cultural challenges of certain communities to the horrors of legalized slavery. Keep slurping fool. Enjoy watching the Bucks. Oh wait.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
I suggest you look at my signature and do the same for Marquette. If this is your attitude, the players do not want you supporting them nor the program.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
Poor, fragile darling.
Black people would like to apologize for the inconvenience they've caused you by mentioning that they'd really rather society stop sanctioning their murders.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
The NFL was the #1 program on TV this week. And in August, the NBA was the #1 program on TV.
Viewership is down across every program for a host of reasons. But the NFL and the NBA continue to be incredibly valuable (actually the most valuable) TV inventory for networks. You can expect to still see massive rate increases when both leagues re-up their TV deals.
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In another thread I asked for a Scoop user name etymology........who reincarnated as CleanishProgram?
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
One week of data is enough data to establish a trend? ok ::)
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1?
Ratings for the Fox games were up.
Ratings for the NBC games were down slightly.
Ratings for the CBS games were down more.
As always, ratings are driven largely by matchups. And ratings are always down during a presidential election year.
Sorry to ruin your narrative.
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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1490455749336/la-clippers-coach-doc-rivers-pictured-out-with-stunning-new-girlfriend-as-he-secretly-divorces-wife-of-34-years
Hey?
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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1490455749336/la-clippers-coach-doc-rivers-pictured-out-with-stunning-new-girlfriend-as-he-secretly-divorces-wife-of-34-years
Hey?
What is the point you think you're making here, hey?
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
You were fine with 100 years of playing the national anthem before games though
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This is the "Proud of Doc Rivers" thread, aina?
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And? Say what you wanna say
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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1490455749336/la-clippers-coach-doc-rivers-pictured-out-with-stunning-new-girlfriend-as-he-secretly-divorces-wife-of-34-years
Hey?
I guess this means you'll be fully supporting him for president in 2024. Especially if he also boasts about grabbing women by the private parts just because he is famous.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
Troll alert!
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not a troll. guy has a diffferent view. oh well. my entire moms side is the same way. Massive packer fans their whole lives. screaming at the tv every sunday. Now they dare even speak the name packers to each other.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
1.26 million more people watched Doc and the Clippers lose (ESPN) then the President’s town hall (ABC). Apparently everyone is sick of politics???
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As the story goes, Doc quietly divorced (which is his business), and is with a much younger woman (again, his biz).
That must have cost him a bundle.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
The NFL ratings were fine all things considered.
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not a troll. guy has a diffferent view. oh well. my entire moms side is the same way. Massive packer fans their whole lives. screaming at the tv every sunday. Now they dare even speak the name packers to each other.
I'm sure the Packers will miss them, but will enjoy having them back eventually. (Even if they claim to still be ignoring them.)
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I will say this, I think Doc is a pretty good coach when it comes to the locker room and overall player management.
I don't think he's a great tactical coach. In fact, I don't think he is very good at all in that department.
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I'm sure the Packers will miss them, but will enjoy having them back eventually. (Even if they claim to still be ignoring them.)
The Venn diagram of people who swore off the NFL forever in 2016 and people who are swearing off the NFL forever today is pretty much a circle.
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Another moron comparing the social and cultural challenges of certain communities to the horrors of legalized slavery. Keep slurping fool. Enjoy watching the Bucks. Oh wait.
Thank you for your opinion. Yours is as worthless as mine.
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The Venn diagram of people who swore off the NFL forever in 2016 and people who are swearing off the NFL forever today is pretty much a circle.
So true, they might not be as enthusiastic but no way they didn't get excited watching the packers get to the NFC finals last year just because some guys stood up for a cause.
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Are the people boycotting the NFL still boycotting Nike, Keurig, whatever that razor company was, every company that posts a rainbow during pride month, etc etc? It's hard to keep track. And they complain that the "snowflakes" are "offended by everything" :o
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Are the people boycotting the NFL still boycotting Nike, Keurig, whatever that razor company was, every company that posts a rainbow during pride month, etc etc? It's hard to keep track. And they complain that the "snowflakes" are "offended by everything" :o
Considering that most of these folks have the attention spans of gnats, and similar brain functionality...
They'll be back.
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Are the people boycotting the NFL still boycotting Nike, Keurig, whatever that razor company was, every company that posts a rainbow during pride month, etc etc? It's hard to keep track. And they complain that the "snowflakes" are "offended by everything" :o
Same people who rail against "cancel culture."
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For everyone who wants to obsess about ratings YoY, context needs to be considered. Check out this look at TV consumption in Q1 2020 vs Q1 2019.
http://twitter.com/4AsResearch/status/1306603294727565312 (http://twitter.com/4AsResearch/status/1306603294727565312)
Huge drops within the 18-34 (15% down) and 35-49 (8% down). People are simply watching less TV. But when they do watch TV, sports including the NBA and the NFL lead the way.
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Are the people boycotting the NFL still boycotting Nike, Keurig, whatever that razor company was, every company that posts a rainbow during pride month, etc etc? It's hard to keep track. And they complain that the "snowflakes" are "offended by everything" :o
I've been boycotting the NFL since they reinstated Michael Vick, though at this point it's more that I just don't watch the sport, and couldn't even if I had a renewed desire to.
I was eating dinner the other night and some NFL game was on in the background and honestly, I don't get how people watch it. The pace of the game is just so molasses slow. In 30 minutes of the game being on, I didn't see any actual game action. I wasn't paying close attention, but every time I glanced at the screen, it was a shot of the sidelines, or a coach talking into a clipboard, or chains moving, or a huddle, or commercials. There's so little actual gameplay in the game. At one point I thought I looked up and saw live action but quickly realized it was a highlight from another game. It baffles me how anyone can sit still for 3 hours interested in a game with 11 minutes of actual game action. I think the NFL speaks to America thoroughly because it so completely embodies our sedentary lifestyles. Virtually no action in a 3 hour period and we call that exciting. How it competes with basketball, hockey, or soccer where there are more often than not things going on when you look at the screen baffles me.
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I've been boycotting the NFL since they reinstated Michael Vick, though at this point it's more that I just don't watch the sport, and couldn't even if I had a renewed desire to.
I was eating dinner the other night and some NFL game was on in the background and honestly, I don't get how people watch it. The pace of the game is just so molasses slow. In 30 minutes of the game being on, I didn't see any actual game action. I wasn't paying close attention, but every time I glanced at the screen, it was a shot of the sidelines, or a coach talking into a clipboard, or chains moving, or a huddle, or commercials. There's so little actual gameplay in the game. At one point I thought I looked up and saw live action but quickly realized it was a highlight from another game. It baffles me how anyone can sit still for 3 hours interested in a game with 11 minutes of actual game action. I think the NFL speaks to America thoroughly because it so completely embodies our sedentary lifestyles. Virtually no action in a 3 hour period and we call that exciting. How it competes with basketball, hockey, or soccer where there are more often than not things going on when you look at the screen baffles me.
Football is all about building anticipation, following by short intense action, then reviewing that action...back to anticipation, etc.
I don't find it that much different than soccer because while the play is ongoing, I certainly wouldn't call it continuous "game action."
But if you don't like it, you don't like it. No biggie.
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Football is all about building anticipation, following by short intense action, then reviewing that action...back to anticipation, etc.
I don't find it that much different than soccer because while the play is ongoing, I certainly wouldn't call it continuous "game action."
But if you don't like it, you don't like it. No biggie.
Yeah, I enjoy and watch a lot of soccer, but I wouldn't call the action scintillating compared to that of a football game.
The worst thing about soccer, IMO, is the lack of any real competition in the domestic leagues. The PL may be the most competitive, and even then only a few teams have a chance to finish at the top in any given year. What's the point if you're the fan of a mid-table club like Everton, Southampton, etc.? You're never good enough to compete for something important. The most excitement you get is maybe a bad year when you get to fend off relegation. Hurray?
And things are much worse in the other major leagues.
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Yeah, I enjoy and watch a lot of soccer, but I wouldn't call the action scintillating compared to that of a football game.
The worst thing about soccer, IMO, is the lack of any real competition in the domestic leagues. The PL may be the most competitive, and even then only a few teams have a chance to finish at the top in any given year. What's the point if you're the fan of a mid-table club like Everton, Southampton, etc.? You're never good enough to compete for something important. The most excitement you get is maybe a bad year when you get to fend off relegation. Hurray?
And things are much worse in the other major leagues.
So you're saying the best players are spread out among the biggest leagues in the world... effectively diluting talent?
;)
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Yeah, I enjoy and watch a lot of soccer, but I wouldn't call the action scintillating compared to that of a football game.
The worst thing about soccer, IMO, is the lack of any real competition in the domestic leagues. The PL may be the most competitive, and even then only a few teams have a chance to finish at the top in any given year. What's the point if you're the fan of a mid-table club like Everton, Southampton, etc.? You're never good enough to compete for something important. The most excitement you get is maybe a bad year when you get to fend off relegation. Hurray?
And things are much worse in the other major leagues.
While the best moments won't match the PL, the Championship is a far more entertaining week-to-week league because the competition level is far more equal. You legitimately won't know who will win week to week. Of course, the games are a lot harder to get and if you're tuning in for the star power, it simply isn't there, but the competition is. I think it's even worse in leagues like Italy and Spain (as you allude to) where the number of teams truly at the top is small and the gap between them and the next tier is pretty large.
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Without fantasy football, it would be interesting to see what ratings would be. I’m sure many people are on their phones/computers watching other games during the dead time. I know I am.
Gambling as well seems to me tailored to football. Most games on the same day of the week. Can make some bets and see the results. Versus NBA or MLB with multiple games during the week making it tougher to follow.
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So you're saying the best players are spread out among the biggest leagues in the world... effectively diluting talent?
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No, I'm saying the best players are concentrated on only about 8-10 percent of the major domestic league rosters, making the annual competition a mostly futile gesture for a large majority of clubs. For those clubs, it's not about building a team good enough to win it all, it's about building one that isn't so bad that they're relegated.
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I think the biggest comp to top soccer leagues is college football. By and large the top programs will always be the top programs, with some moving up and some moving down over the course of years.
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No, I'm saying the best players are concentrated on only about 8-10 percent of the major domestic league rosters, making the annual competition a mostly futile gesture for a large majority of clubs. For those clubs, it's not about building a team good enough to win it all, it's about building one that isn't so bad that they're relegated.
Fair assessment, however, what American Football gains in a larger percentage of teams that have realistic chances of winning a title, they more than lose because of the teams that are intentionally tanking, IMO. In a lot of cases relegation fights can be more interesting and fun to watch than title challenges, as was the case last year in the Premier League.
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No, I'm saying the best players are concentrated on only about 8-10 percent of the major domestic league rosters, making the annual competition a mostly futile gesture for a large majority of clubs. For those clubs, it's not about building a team good enough to win it all, it's about building one that isn't so bad that they're relegated.
I think there's still viable avenues for smaller teams to compete for Europe, even if not the Champions' League. Wolves, Burnley, Everton, Southampton, and West Ham have all had European campaigns in recent years. As a Reading FC fan, it was a blast when they made a push for Europe in their first ever EPL season back in 2007.
But I do relate to the overall futility for those clubs. If you aren't City, United, Liverpool, Chelsea, or Arsenal, the odds of seeing your team holding the title at the end of the season is incredibly remote. Better odds of winning a FA or EFL Cup. It's tough when you're a fan of a team like Stoke City, who spent 10 years in the PL and never finished higher than 9th. It's tougher when you're a fan of a team that looks at that Stoke run and daydreams about that level of success.
Of course...Stoke is now in the Championship, so...
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Thought this thread was about Doc Rivers.... ?-(
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Thought this thread was about Doc Rivers.... ?-(
I'm not sure why people keeping wasting time with posts like this. Threads evolve on every message board. Mods don't seem to care.
So either get used to it, or move along.
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Thought this thread was about Doc Rivers.... ?-(
If you are looking for pizza advice you need to check out the Kenosha thread
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Of course...Stoke is now in the Championship, so...
Yeah, and I think this is more or less my point. For the large majority of European soccer clubs, the only real goal/hope is to not be relegated. Barring the sudden appearance of a Gulf state sheikh or Russian oligarch, there's no path to championships (2016 Leicester exceped), or even sustainable success for most clubs.
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Yeah, and I think this is more or less my point. For the large majority of European soccer clubs, the only real goal/hope is to not be relegated. Barring the sudden appearance of a Gulf state sheikh or Russian oligarch, there's no path to championships (2016 Leicester exceped), or even sustainable success for most clubs.
Even those are turning into false hope for more teams than not. For every Roman Abramovich that is willing to use his money to win, there are a dozen Anton Zingarevich, Tiger Thanakarnjanasuth, Dai Yongge types that never deliver those players nor results (and those are just Reading FC owners in the less-than-a-decade since John Madejski sold the club).
Leicester is such a ridiculously magical story. I suspect we'll never see their like again in our lifetimes.
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Leicester is such a ridiculously magical story. I suspect we'll never see their like again in our lifetimes.
Before that season my wife and I started watching EPL she decided she needed to choose a team. Since she likes foxes she chose Leicester, despite mt telling her “they’re probably going to get relegated.” What an amazing season.
Now teams like Leicester, Sheffield United, Wolves, etc are left to just fight for Europe instead of the EPL title.
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Anyone care to check the NFL ratings for Week 1? Seems we have enough data at this point to demonstrate a trend between social justice warrioring and viewership ratings, and it absolutely is having an effect on NBA ratings. It seems at least 80% of the visitors to this board can’t slurp BLM propaganda fast enough, but I have no interest in watching athletes spread lies about what is truly impacting the progress of the black community. My emotional connection to the NBA (Bucks) and the NFL (Packers) is gone, and it’s not coming back, and there are a lot of people like me. “Good riddance,” “We don’t need you,” “The sport is better off without you,” “you were never a real fan” etc, but it all just supports the fact that athletes have turned sports into a polarizing product, whether you slurpers feel it is warranted or not. I look forward to the advent of the MSNBA and the CNNFL. Maybe Fox will develop its own FOXFL.
Close...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-21/fox-is-poised-to-spend-up-to-2-billion-to-keep-sunday-football (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-21/fox-is-poised-to-spend-up-to-2-billion-to-keep-sunday-football)
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I just watched a newly posted series on Netflix called The Playbook a coach’s rules for life
Episode one is a 35 minute interview with Doc Rivers. Please watch:
Finish the race
Don’t be a victim
Unbuntu
Pressure is a privilege
Champions keep moving forward
Please then post your thoughts after watching . I really enjoyed it
Unbuntu!!
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My initial thought is that Doc's rules for life would be a lot more meaningful if he wouldn't blow so many 3-1 leads.
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And apparently Doc has been fired by the Clippers.
Scholl should give him a call. What harm can it do? ;) ;) ;)
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And apparently Doc has been fired by the Clippers.
Scholl should give him a call. What harm can it do? ;) ;) ;)
Los Angeles Clippers fire coach Doc Rivers after humiliating playoff collapse, per report.
Heard Doc helped connect Marquette with Wojo. Am a Pro Jo, But agree might not hurt to call.
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And apparently Doc has been fired by the Clippers.
Scholl should give him a call. What harm can it do? ;) ;) ;)
Unlike Billy, Doc would actually take the call.
(But not the job)
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Unlike Billy, Doc would actually take the call.
Sign me up for Doc.
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My guess is at this point, Doc would probably take a few years off and enjoy watching his son play in the league and spending time with his other kids.
It appears Doc has a lady friend in the picture as well. So he has a lot going on.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/us-news/251661/la-clippers-coach-doc-rivers-new-girlfriend-divorces-wife/
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Don't you think a lot of struggling NBA franchises have already called him. Would not surprise me if he has another job at the start of next season.
And recall, he was a commentator for the NBA on ABC for one season (calling the 2004 Finals with Al Michaels). If he is not coaching next season, I would expect he'll be on the other side of the court broadcasting.
He's an NBA guy, not a college guy.
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Don't you think a lot of struggling NBA franchise have already called him. Would not surprise me if he has another job at the start of next season.
And recall, he was a commentator for the NBA on ABC for one season (calling the 2004 Finals with Al Michaels). If he is not caoching next season, I would expect he'll be on the other side of the court broadcasting.
He's and NBA guy, not a college guy.
I agree but one can dream.
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Budenholzer kant cary Rivers' Bike. Yet, he keeps his job and Glenn gets chit-kanned. Guess dat da diff between this won horse town and LA, hey?
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Budenholzer kant cary Rivers' Bike. Yet, he keeps his job and Glenn gets chit-kanned. Guess dat da diff between this won horse town and LA, hey?
Based on what? He won an NBA title on a loaded team and hasn’t exactly “outkicked his coverage” the last few years.
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Oh great...... thought 4ever just strongly disliked the MU regime....but apparently it’s several Milwaukee teams....and the city itself. Bravo.
Lookout Counsell, you may be next.
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Based on what? He won an NBA title on a loaded team and hasn’t exactly “outkicked his coverage” the last few years.
Yep. He had a loaded team this year and lost to the Nuggets after being up 3-1.
Time for some new blood in the head coaching ranks.
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Yep. He had a loaded team this year and lost to the Nuggets after being up 3-1 and not the first time he's blown a 3-1 lead. From The Athletic:
"Rivers only won three playoff series in six appearances with the Clippers. In addition to his NBA-record three series lost after holding a 3-1 series lead, Rivers’ 3-8 record in potential series-clinching games with the Clippers is tied for the worst record with one team in NBA history."
Time for some new blood in the head coaching ranks.
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Yep. He had a loaded team this year and lost to the Nuggets after being up 3-1.
Time for some new blood in the head coaching ranks.
All I care about is how MU does. If Doc has a head coaching job in the NBA it is good for MU basketball. So I hope he gets another great job.
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All I care about is how MU does. If Doc has a head coaching job in the NBA it is good for MU basketball. So I hope he gets another great job.
Agree all I care about is how MU does and MU winning
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Doc Rivers to the 76ers:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30018563/sources-doc-rivers-agrees-deal-coach-philadelphia-76ers
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Can't believe he isn't coming to Marquette.
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Can't believe he isn't coming to Marquette.
Time for the meat eaters to open their checkbooks
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Doc Rivers to the 76ers:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30018563/sources-doc-rivers-agrees-deal-coach-philadelphia-76ers
Great news for Doc and MU.
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I was a little surprised Glenn took the Philly job.
I thought he might chill for a year, make some of that easy TV coin while collecting what Ballmer owes him, and then get back into coaching in 2021-22.
But he obviously wants to stay with it, and the Sixers do have talent. They seem to be something of a mental dumpster fire, but maybe he can turn that around.
Still very proud of our friend and fellow Warrior for being willing to work to make our country a better place.
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I was a little surprised Glenn took the Philly job.
I thought he might chill for a year, make some of that easy TV coin while collecting what Ballmer owes him, and then get back into coaching in 2021-22.
But he obviously wants to stay with it, and the Sixers do have talent. They seem to be something of a mental dumpster fire, but maybe he can turn that around.
Still very proud of our friend and fellow Warrior for being willing to work to make our country a better place.
I was shocked he didn't hop right on Dick Strong's private plane from Orlando minutes after the Clippers blew a 3-1 lead on the Nuggets to knock down the Al McGuire doors to come coach MU.
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I was shocked he didn't hop right on Dick Strong's private plane from Orlando minutes after the Clippers blew a 3-1 lead on the Nuggets to knock down the Al McGuire doors to come coach MU.
Well yeah. But failing that, I'm surprised he didn't take some time off.
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Why? Coaches coach. If someone wants a going to go ay them a lot of money, they are going to coach.
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Doc is stepping into a job with a team with a talented roster. Gets a 5 year guarantee. Hard to find those opportunities . Combine those facts with his competitive desire to make up for this years disappointment it makes good sense.
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Why? Coaches coach. If someone wants a going to go ay them a lot of money, they are going to coach.
I hear ya, and I'm truly glad for Glenn. I think he's a great coach and a better person.
He sounded a little defeated and exhausted after the Clippers got eliminated. I thought that, combined with his obvious distress from the racial unrest, might make him want to chill for a year.
All I want him to do is what gives him satisfaction, so if coaching the Sixers is it, I'll be rooting for him to succeed.
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https://twitter.com/MUOverload/status/1310975372628877314
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I hear ya, and I'm truly glad for Glenn. I think he's a great coach and a better person.
He sounded a little defeated and exhausted after the Clippers got eliminated. I thought that, combined with his obvious distress from the racial unrest, might make him want to chill for a year.
All I want him to do is what gives him satisfaction, so if coaching the Sixers is it, I'll be rooting for him to succeed.
I don’t know how “great” of a coach he is with three series losses while up 3-1 as well as eight first round exits. Good guy? Hell yes. Great coach? Not quite.
To succeed Philly need to move on from Simmons.
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I don’t know how “great” of a coach he is with three series losses while up 3-1 as well as eight first round exits. Good guy? Hell yes. Great coach? Not quite.
To succeed Philly need to move on from Simmons.
NBA champion. Along with lots of regular-season success.
I’ll settle for very good, NBA championship coach.
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I suppose the people were tired of those horses taking a knee:
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/1313489659951972358?s=19
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I hear ya, and I'm truly glad for Glenn. I think he's a great coach and a better person.
I read somewhere he's asked the Philly press to call him Glenn instead of Doc, because "there's only one Doc in Philly"
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I read somewhere he's asked the Philly press to call him Glenn instead of Doc, because "there's only one Doc in Philly"
https://twitter.com/marczumoff/status/1313242882862612480?s=20
I like it!
When he was at Marquette, those of us in classes with him and who got to know him called him Glenn. Hank called him Glenn, too. Majerus and most of the players called him Doc. Years later, when our paths would cross, I still called him Glenn.
And I agree with Glenn that basketball has/had only one true Doc/Dr. J! That's who Majerus nicknamed him after.
Julius was something in Philly, but when he was with the ABA Nets, the teenage me thought he was the greatest player I had ever seen, and I still thought so until Magic became a superstar.
Julius had Michael's finesse game and LeBron's power, he was a brilliant passer, outstanding ballhandler and an incredible rebounder. And arguably the best dunker ever. (Jordan, 'Nique and Thompson might disagree.) The ABA was an offensive league, so Dr. J didn't consistently play great D, but he made some awesome defensive plays. In that way, similar to LeBron now.
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I suppose the people were tired of those horses taking a knee:
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/1313489659951972358?s=19
the last time I watched a race is when American Pharoh was racing for the Triple Crown in the Belmont. I was at a bar for the Women's World Cup that day and the race was on. I'll always remember some dudes watching yelling "yeah, go horse!" during the race.
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the last time I watched a race is when American Pharoh was racing for the Triple Crown in the Belmont. I was at a bar for the Women's World Cup that day and the race was on. I'll always remember some dudes watching yelling "yeah, go horse!" during the race.
Would watch any level of horse racing over any level of soccer any day of the week.
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Would watch any level of horse racing over any level of soccer any day of the week.
Oooooo spicy take here. I like both, but I only watch three horse races a year, and only the KD is a 'must see'.
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Oooooo spicy take here. I like both, but I only watch three horse races a year, and only the KD is a 'must see'.
I couldn’t tell you the last time I saw any horse racing beyond highlights for a triple crown race.
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the last time I watched a race is when American Pharoh was racing for the Triple Crown in the Belmont. I was at a bar for the Women's World Cup that day and the race was on. I'll always remember some dudes watching yelling "yeah, go horse!" during the race.
Same except was at a bar for the blackhawks in the playoffs
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I couldn’t tell you the last time I saw any horse racing beyond highlights for a triple crown race.
Okay then I think you have a typo in your original comment. :-D
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Okay then I think you have a typo in your original comment. :-D
Nope!
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Nope!
Oh, so you really really hate soccer. lol
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At least horse races never end in nil-nil draws.
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At least horse races never end in nil-nil draws.
True, though they hardly ever have to give soccer players Lasix to stop them bleeding into their lungs from running up and down the field.
Actually, soccer vs. thorougbreds...I have no horse in this race.
(Thank you, thank you).
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At least horse races never end in nil-nil draws.
Two minutes of excitement with a fun gambling add on vs 2 hours of boredom. Hmmm...
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Actually, soccer has gotten me to appreciate the tie. I think the NFL should drop overtimes because no one deserves to win if they can't outscore someone in regulation.
(And are we really going to devolve into a "which sport is better" debate?)
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Actually, soccer has gotten me to appreciate the tie. I think the NFL should drop overtimes because no one deserves to win if they can't outscore someone in regulation.
(And are we really going to devolve into a "which sport is better" debate?)
I dislike ties. But the NFL overtime is my least favorite, followed by the NHL. Make it a shoot out or legit full extra time imo.
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I dislike ties. But the NFL overtime is my least favorite, followed by the NHL. Make it a shoot out or legit full extra time imo.
I'm not a fan of college football. You end up with ridiculous scores that don't represent the actual game played.
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Actually, soccer has gotten me to appreciate the tie. I think the NFL should drop overtimes because no one deserves to win if they can't outscore someone in regulation.
(And are we really going to devolve into a "which sport is better" debate?)
I prefer when "regulation time" isn't entirely up to the whims of one person.
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I prefer when "regulation time" isn't entirely up to the whims of one person.
Rarely feels like whims, except maybe on occasion when Fergie was still in charge at Man U. I feel like you can always peg added time within a minute or so if you're paying attention to the game.
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Rarely feels like whims, except maybe on occasion when Fergie was still in charge at Man U. I feel like you can always peg added time within a minute or so if you're paying attention to the game.
"Within a minute or so" = whims.
And even then, it's entirely situational. If a team down or tied is attacking, the game goes on regardless of time.
I'm a soccer fan, but make believe time is a monumental flaw in the game.
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"Within a minute or so" = whims.
And even then, it's entirely situational. If a team down or tied is attacking, the game goes on regardless of time.
I'm a soccer fan, but make believe time is a monumental flaw in the game.
100% agree. I’m trying to get into soccer more and this is a major stumbling block. Why can’t they just start and stop a clock for everyone to see?
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I mean, yeah it's annoying, but a "major stumbling block?"
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I mean, yeah it's annoying, but a "major stumbling block?"
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A major stumbling block is probably overstated. :)
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Some interesting numbers regarding sports viewing during social justice, COVID-19, and changing technology.
https://twitter.com/kavithadavidson/status/1316438140110934024?s=19
Also, some other NBA viewing data:
https://twitter.com/FOSInsights/status/1316514824856260608?s=19
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When all this is over, will sports television viewership "rebound" to something more normal?
I have my doubts.
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When all this is over, will sports television viewership "rebound" to something more normal?
I have my doubts.
Some of the interesting points in the study...one was a large percent of people preferred to watch sports with others as opposed to alone, which people cannot do during the Pandemic. This would likely be especially true with casual fans.
Another issue is cost. Traditional cable and satellite companies became more and more expensive over time and eventually many consumers rebelled against that. As sports streaming gets more costly and difficult, those sports viewers that switched will get increasingly frustrated with higher streaming costs, more complexities with viewing etc...
And as the economic divide keeps growing, Billionaire owners, Millionaire players, costs to attend.....as it has happened with corporate management vs their average employees, animosity and apathy will keep increasing over time as well.
As the study shows, many people aren't all that affected by increased social justice positions. The other things matter much more.
Here are some of the ways people are getting their sports highlights:
https://twitter.com/FOSInsights/status/1316701604335153156?s=19
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CG8LjuzjJHO/?igshid=1dai8utk80q2v
Proud of Sy, too.