2024 Green Bay Packers Thread

[WhiteTrash]

Packers not ready to move on from Rodgers..
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/qb-aaron-rodgers-will-take-his-time-on-return-decision-packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-says

Do the Packers have another realistic option?

[cheebs09]

Do the Packers have another realistic option?

I don’t think so. It’s pretty much he retires or the Packers take a ridiculous cap hit trading him.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yep. The only way they get rid of him is through his retirement.

[Uncle Rico]

Yep. The only way they get rid of him is through his retirement.

Keep him but tank for Caleb Williams

[4everwarriors]

Dey don't have know replacement on der roster ether doe, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

Dey don't have know replacement on der roster ether doe, hey?

Put Bakhtiari at QB and tank

[HutchwasClutch]

I don’t think so. It’s pretty much he retires or the Packers take a ridiculous cap hit trading him.

His retiring is not a get out of salary cap hell free card.   Cap hit is 40 million if he retires. 

I’d be shocked if he walked away from a guaranteed 59 million.  That just doesn’t happen. 

They’re in an awful situation with him. 

[Herman Cain]

NFL Network Analysts saying no way Rodgers retires

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/nfl-network-shoots-down-aaron-rodgers-retirement-conversation/

[Uncle Rico]

NFL Network Analysts saying no way Rodgers retires

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/nfl-network-shoots-down-aaron-rodgers-retirement-conversation/

That was one of the worst things I’ve ever read

[tower912]

Jamaal Williams fined more for his touchdown celebration than Quay Walker was for pushing a member of the Lions medical staff.

[cheebs09]

His retiring is not a get out of salary cap hell free card.   Cap hit is 40 million if he retires. 

I’d be shocked if he walked away from a guaranteed 59 million.  That just doesn’t happen. 

They’re in an awful situation with him.

Agreed. I was just stating the only real way he wouldn’t be the Packers quarterback next year. I don’t see any way the Packers make the choice to get rid of him.

[HutchwasClutch]

Agreed. I was just stating the only real way he wouldn’t be the Packers quarterback next year. I don’t see any way the Packers make the choice to get rid of him.

I think a trade is a real possibility.  Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday.  They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return.  They want him to play now.

Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself.  But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room.   How many teams could do that?

[HutchwasClutch]

Jamaal Williams fined more for his touchdown celebration than Quay Walker was for pushing a member of the Lions medical staff.

That is ridiculous.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think a trade is a real possibility.  Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday.  They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return.  They want him to play now.

Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself.  But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room.   How many teams could do that?

His dead cap next year is $99 million. I mean, I would never say never, but that is a ridiculous figure.

[cheebs09]

I think a trade is a real possibility.  Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday.  They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return.  They want him to play now.

Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself.  But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room.   How many teams could do that?

I think they drafted him with the intention of moving on from Rodgers in the next year or two. Then Rodgers was MVP and they went to the NFCC multiple times. I think Love’s draft position is irrelevant now.

I think if money wasn’t a factor, they’d move to Love now. However, Rodgers’ contract just doesn’t allow that.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Put Bakhtiari at QB and tank

Bak running the wildcat would be something. Also probably end up with a better QB rating than Fields.

[HutchwasClutch]

I think they drafted him with the intention of moving on from Rodgers in the next year or two. Then Rodgers was MVP and they went to the NFCC multiple times. I think Love’s draft position is irrelevant now.

I think if money wasn’t a factor, they’d move to Love now. However, Rodgers’ contract just doesn’t allow that.

No team, especially the Packers, are ok with a wasted first round pick by never giving the guy a chance to succeed or fail or something in between.  Gutekunst went very bold moving up and selecting Love.  That pick will forever be tied to him.  He’s not about to throw all that away on a guy who keeps failing over and over when it matters most. 

So I think everything that goes into the investment of Love in the first place is highly relevant.   Whether they can make it work to move on from Rodgers, we’ll see. But a trade is more realistic than hoping he’ll retire.  And don’t underestimate what teams will do for a first ballot HOF who’s just one year removed from back to back MVP’s.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Tell me how you manage the $99 million cap hit?

[HutchwasClutch]

Tell me how you manage the $99 million cap hit?

That isn’t the cap hit in a trade scenario unless they exercise an option bonus pre trade to drop his ‘23 cap number.  If they plan to try and trade him, no way is that option exercised of course.  And they have all the way from beginning of league year until the day before their first regular season game next year to pick up the option or not.  More than enough time to try and trade him and if that fails, pick up the option for the benefit of the ‘23 cap. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-how-aaron-rodgers-future-decision-affects-the-packers-bottom-line/amp/

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I think a trade is a real possibility.  Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday.  They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return.  They want him to play now.

Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself.  But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room.   How many teams could do that?

The Bears could.

How many picks would GB give up to dump that contact?

[forgetful]

Tell me how you manage the $99 million cap hit?

You either cut or trade him after June 1st. Then the hit is only 30-32M depending on whether he is cut or traded.

If he's traded, the team trading him either will take a $59M cap hit, or if they exercise the option something like only $17M.

[HutchwasClutch]

You either cut or trade him after June 1st. Then the hit is only 30-32M depending on whether he is cut or traded.

If he's traded, the team trading him either will take a $59M cap hit, or if they exercise the option something like only $17M.

No team trading for him would not exercise the option to lower his ‘23 cap number.  So then the cap hit becomes 15.79M for his new team.  Not easy for many teams, but certainly doable for others.  Especially since you can get creative with clearing cap space with their other players. 

Whether it’s a $40M or $20M cap hit to the Packers for ‘23 is whether they trade him before June 2 or June 2 and after.  Problem is teams want their QB situation for the coming year addressed well before that date.  So pretty likely a $40M cap hit to Packers by trading him.

Other major caveat to a trade is they have to find a team acceptable to Rodgers or he can just walk away and retire.  That’s probably the only way he walks away from all that guaranteed ‘23 money - team he has no interest in playing for. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That isn’t the cap hit in a trade scenario unless they exercise an option bonus pre trade to drop his ‘23 cap number.  If they plan to try and trade him, no way is that option exercised of course.  And they have all the way from beginning of league year until the day before their first regular season game next year to pick up the option or not.  More than enough time to try and trade him and if that fails, pick up the option for the benefit of the ‘23 cap. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-how-aaron-rodgers-future-decision-affects-the-packers-bottom-line/amp/

You either cut or trade him after June 1st. Then the hit is only 30-32M depending on whether he is cut or traded.

If he's traded, the team trading him either will take a $59M cap hit, or if they exercise the option something like only $17M.

Thanks to you both.

[MU82]

Maybe the Panthers would take Rodgers if the Packers throw in a couple of high draft picks.

[Uncle Rico]

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