Bear in mind these are sources within Wisconsin. Until I see an announcement that originates with the Hausers, I wouldn't consider it official.
Bear in mind these are sources within Wisconsin. Until I see an announcement that originates with the Hausers, I wouldn't consider it official.
This post at Buckyville by ACinMSP is one of the best ever and will be forever saved.
OMG...and some of them believe it. LOL.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/buckyville/sam-joey-hauser-transferring-from-marquette-t98828-s3700.html
To save you a click, a poster is suggesting that wealthy MU donors paid the hauser family to choose “anybody but Wisconsin.” These wealthy donors felt it better to use their money for this cause (vs spending the money on MU) because the ramifications of the hausers going to Bucky would have basically destroyed our programs reputation for years to come.
Have to be honest, this softens the blow. A step up for both of them. Still puzzling about why Sam left if they were going to split up anyway, I think it gives more credence to the narrative that he was as important in the decision as Joey and that’s more damning for Wojo. For him to forgo pro ball by a year and walk away from what could have been a truly special season which would have cemented his place in the pantheon of MU all-timers means he must really have lost all faith in Wojo and his system. I can’t think of any critique that would carry more weight than that.
But best of luck to him. I hope Wojo can rise to the challenge.
They both left because they were both unhappy. The idea that Sam was fine and would return was always fanciful nonsense.
Have to be honest, this softens the blow. A step up for both of them. Still puzzling about why Sam left if they were going to split up anyway, I think it gives more credence to the narrative that he was as important in the decision as Joey and that’s more damning for Wojo. For him to forgo pro ball by a year and walk away from what could have been a truly special season which would have cemented his place in the pantheon of MU all-timers means he must really have lost all faith in Wojo and his system. I can’t think of any critique that would carry more weight than that.B.S. you mean a step down for both of them leaving Marquette for public schools.
But best of luck to him. I hope Wojo can rise to the challenge.
So we have boosters to pay players to not go to WI? Wowser.I am thinking about playing for UW. Can someone spread the word to these high rollers?
So we have boosters to pay players to not go to WI? Wowser.
Fair enough. However, this makes far more sense than either or both going to UW.Guess they both landed well
It shows both Hausers have enough sense to play for a HOF, National Champion coach, and they care about winning.
Hitching your wagon to Greg Gard and Floppy McNutpuncher never made any sense to me, when there were far better options on the table.
Best of luck to Sam at UVA. As for Joey, I hope he beats UW a couple time each year, other than that I don't really care. His bad attitude went a long ways toward MU's collapse down the stretch and cost us a Big East title. For that I won't look back on his time here as fondly as Sam's.
This post at Buckyville by ACinMSP is one of the best ever and will be forever saved.Scoop has definitely not cornered the market on aholes!
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/buckyville/sam-joey-hauser-transferring-from-marquette-t98828-s3700.html
+1
As for Joey, I hope he beats UW a couple time each year, other than that I don't really care. His bad attitude went a long ways toward MU's collapse down the stretch and cost us a Big East title. For that I won't look back on his time here as fondly as Sam's.
There have been some fanciful stories, some terrible commentary and a lot of misinformation since they announced they were transferring but thinking Marquette boosters paid the family not to go to Wisconsin-Madison is next level insanebut the perfect continuation of the saga
Guess they both landed well
Both on elite squads competing for national championships. Meanwhile, MU continues to wallow in limited if any dance appearances, getting beat by a mid major in the dance. The Hausers saw the action up close and personal, and chose to move on. Meanwhile, many scoopers with their blinders on continue to offer excuses, and criticize them as treasonous turncoats. Sad saga in MU history. Now the page can be turned to the next exciting season under the wonderful wojo. Hopefully he can bring in some guys to replace the loss, although that is one big wish. Now let the soothsayers begin their bashing and excuse making
B.S. you mean a step down for both of them leaving Marquette for public schools.Yes...MSU and UVA are pathetic public institutions...that have contributed little to society.
Yes...MSU and UVA are pathetic public institutions...that have contributed little to society.
Can't understand Sam changing schools. It doesn't make sense. He is giving up so much. Will have to sit out a year. Play for a far away school for one year. Was Sam that unhappy to make such a dumb and or desperate move?I get (and share) your confusion, but the obvious answer is "yes."
The Dentists Did It.
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Guess they both landed well
Both on elite squads competing for national championships. Meanwhile, MU continues to wallow in limited if any dance appearances, getting beat by a mid major in the dance.
Can't understand Sam changing schools. It doesn't make sense. He is giving up so much. Will have to sit out a year. Play for a far away school for one year. Was Sam that unhappy to make such a dumb and or desperate move?
This argument has baffled me for months. Teams get upset by mid majors or lower every year in the tournament. Heck in 2018 UMBC beat #1 Virginia by 20 and Buffalo beat Arizona by 21. Not to mention Loyola-Chicago making it to the final four and none of those teams had a top 3 NBA draft pick on their roster. This is why it is called March Madness. Otherwise it would be called March Chalk and we could just put the four number ones in the final four and skip the rest.
Those teams are successful though. It was shocking when they lost. 80% of ncaa basketball had mu losing to Murray state
This argument has baffled me for months. Teams get upset by mid majors or lower every year in the tournament. Heck in 2018 UMBC beat #1 Virginia by 20 and Buffalo beat Arizona by 21. Not to mention Loyola-Chicago making it to the final four and none of those teams had a top 3 NBA draft pick on their roster. This is why it is called March Madness. Otherwise it would be called March Chalk and we could just put the four number ones in the final four and skip the rest.
80% of ncaa basketball had mu losing to Murray state
Untrue. We were solid favorites in the game. #FakeNewsYes, the line was obviously in MU's favor, but most of the "experts" and talking heads were picking Murray over MU as an upset special.
Untrue. We were solid favorites in the game. #FakeNews
What would you like scoopers to do? Have a grape sodaHow about demanding that Wojo be held accountable for his classic f ups, instead of criticizing kids around him and offering up their lame excuses for Wojo failures. How about taking the blinders off. How about quit chugging the Kool aid, and demanding performance instead of wasted years. Something even you should try. But it always more convenient to accept the same old same old. All the evidence is there for people, just do not want to admit that the guy is still over his head after 15 years at Duke, and 5 here.
I get (and share) your confusion, but the obvious answer is "yes."And that should speak volumes, when our best all around player bails out for greener pastures, because of unhappiness with the system.
How about demanding that Wojo be held accountable for his classic f ups, instead of criticizing kids around him and offering up their lame excuses for Wojo failures. How about taking the blinders off. How about quit chugging the Kool aid, and demanding performance instead of wasted years. Something even you should try. But it always more convenient to accept the same old same old. All the evidence is there for people, just do not want to admit that the guy is still over his head after 15 years at Duke, and 5 here.
To save you a click, a poster is suggesting that wealthy MU donors paid the hauser family to choose “anybody but Wisconsin.” These wealthy donors felt it better to use their money for this cause (vs spending the money on MU) because the ramifications of the hausers going to Bucky would have basically destroyed our programs reputation for years to come.
Also, I saw on there or 247 that the hold up on “admissions” allowed the hausers time to reconsider their verbal commitment.
Can't understand Sam changing schools. It doesn't make sense. He is giving up so much. Will have to sit out a year. Play for a far away school for one year. Was Sam that unhappy to make such a dumb and or desperate move?
Ummm, he is now playing for a National Championship coach and the reigning National Championship team. Maybe he just likes his chances at glory better there?
Have to be honest, this softens the blow. A step up for both of them. Still puzzling about why Sam left if they were going to split up anyway, I think it gives more credence to the narrative that he was as important in the decision as Joey and that’s more damning for Wojo. For him to forgo pro ball by a year and walk away from what could have been a truly special season which would have cemented his place in the pantheon of MU all-timers means he must really have lost all faith in Wojo and his system. I can’t think of any critique that would carry more weight than that.
But best of luck to him. I hope Wojo can rise to the challenge.
Vegas don't lie.
https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/6325635-marquette-vs-murray-state-college-basketball-betting-lines-spread-and-odds-for-ncaa-tournament
Nor did experts.
Ummm, he is now playing for a National Championship coach and the reigning National Championship team. Maybe he just likes his chances at glory better there?Good luck to him. He’s going to need it.
Ummm, he is now playing for a National Championship coach and the reigning National Championship team. Maybe he just likes his chances at glory better there?
How about demanding that Wojo be held accountable for his classic f ups, instead of criticizing kids around him and offering up their lame excuses for Wojo failures. How about taking the blinders off. How about quit chugging the Kool aid, and demanding performance instead of wasted years. Something even you should try. But it always more convenient to accept the same old same old. All the evidence is there for people, just do not want to admit that the guy is still over his head after 15 years at Duke, and 5 here.How about recognizing that the Hausers tanked the team and then jumped ship.
How about recognizing that the Hausers tanked the team and then jumped ship.
Has any of this been confirmed?
No, not by the people that matter anyway...Sam and Joey
1. I laughed out loud when I saw this because of what it says about the UW program (more on this later).
2. I was a victim of bad information. The exact same person who gave me that bad information -- #donedeal level misinformation -- subsequently told me that his source had been wrong and that Sam to Va, Joey to MSU was actually what was going to happen. The latter proved true.
3. It's on me that I not only spread the misinformation but that I took it to the next level, suggesting that the Hausers were "playing" or "punking" Bennett and Izzo. That turns out to have been unfair of me to say, and I regret having said it.
4. I do think it speaks to Sam's level of desperation to get away from Marquette that he would give away a year of his basketball career to play at Virginia. And I do think it speaks poorly of Wojo, or at least his relationship with Wojo. And yet, if there is truth to the MANY reports that the Hausers would have stayed had Markus gone, the Hausers-distrust-Wojo angle still has holes.
5. Sam played hard, he played well, he was a leader. Some of my fondest memories from the last few years were authored by Sam, especially his shot against Creighton and him pulling down the final rebound against Nova. He will be missed.
6. Joey might turn out to be a very good player. Indeed, if I were predicting, I would say he will. Izzo wanted him very much, and that alone is a major endorsement for his potential -- potential that we all got a feel for last season, especially during the first half of the season. Having said that, I am not emotionally invested in Joey at all, and while I wish him well I won't really "miss" him. The reports that he was the cause of all of this ... as I have said many times, I feel there's plenty of blame to go around.
7. As disappointing as this whole episode has been for Marquette, if I am to be as objective as I possibly can be, this is absolutely devastating for Wisconsin for all the reasons mentioned in Polzin's article. Gard has now missed out on the Hausers twice, and given the circumstances of this latest miss, it is almost incredible that it happened. An incredible indictment of the UW program.
8. Happy Memorial Day, everybody.
Great, I will return to my pipe dream wish that Sam will return until all hope is lost.
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Name a playa hoo announced his intention ta transfer, and den changed his mind and came back to da skool he announced his intent ta transfer from, hey?
Name a playa hoo announced his intention ta transfer, and den changed his mind and came back to da skool he announced his intent ta transfer from, hey?
Name 2 den, hey?
So we have boosters to pay players to not go to WI? Wowser.
1. I laughed out loud when I saw this because of what it says about the UW program (more on this later).
2. I was a victim of bad information. The exact same person who gave me that bad information -- #donedeal level misinformation -- subsequently told me that his source had been wrong and that Sam to Va, Joey to MSU was actually what was going to happen. The latter proved true.
3. It's on me that I not only spread the misinformation but that I took it to the next level, suggesting that the Hausers were "playing" or "punking" Bennett and Izzo. That turns out to have been unfair of me to say, and I regret having said it.
4. I do think it speaks to Sam's level of desperation to get away from Marquette that he would give away a year of his basketball career to play at Virginia. And I do think it speaks poorly of Wojo, or at least his relationship with Wojo. And yet, if there is truth to the MANY reports that the Hausers would have stayed had Markus gone, the Hausers-distrust-Wojo angle still has holes.
5. Sam played hard, he played well, he was a leader. Some of my fondest memories from the last few years were authored by Sam, especially his shot against Creighton and him pulling down the final rebound against Nova. He will be missed.
6. Joey might turn out to be a very good player. Indeed, if I were predicting, I would say he will. Izzo wanted him very much, and that alone is a major endorsement for his potential -- potential that we all got a feel for last season, especially during the first half of the season. Having said that, I am not emotionally invested in Joey at all, and while I wish him well I won't really "miss" him. The reports that he was the cause of all of this ... as I have said many times, I feel there's plenty of blame to go around.
7. As disappointing as this whole episode has been for Marquette, if I am to be as objective as I possibly can be, this is absolutely devastating for Wisconsin for all the reasons mentioned in Polzin's article. Gard has now missed out on the Hausers twice, and given the circumstances of this latest miss, it is almost incredible that it happened. An incredible indictment of the UW program.
8. Happy Memorial Day, everybody.
Taught ewe were sworn ta secrecy. Meat summit invite now in jeopardy, hey?
Name a playa hoo announced his intention ta transfer, and den changed his mind and came back to da skool he announced his intent ta transfer from, hey?
9. To those who think this was all about "touches", usage, shots, wanting to be the "man", etc. - take off the blue and gold glasses and look at the facts. Nobody on Virginia (even their top 10 lottery pick) gets statistical "star treatment" and even the stars on MSU have usage rates 20-30% lower than Markus's. At those two elite programs "The strength of our team is our team" is a way of life - not an empty slogan.
1. Agreed
2. I had the same information.
3. Even if that information had turned out to be accurate, I thought your suggestion that the Hausers were "punking" or using Izzo and Bennett was way out of line. In any recruitment there are favorites or leaders reported - and often they end up signing the player. That doesn't mean the other finalists were "used". Guys like Izzo and Bennett still want the chance to give a potential player a final face to face pitch. Your interpretation of the process indicated a predetermined anti Hauser bias IMO. Your apology (which you promised if proven wrong) proves (no surprise) that you're a stand up guy.
4. Agree (and have always felt) that Sam was desperately unhappy. The idea that Joey was the driving force here never made sense given all that Sam was sacrificing (top 10 team in 2020, legacy as a 2nd tier all time great at MU, etc.). Maybe he and Joey were gone regardless of Markus's decision and were giving him the courtesy of announcing first. Maybe they believed that Mojo would demand more team play if his star left. Either way, doesn't matter to me - IMO Wojo looks bad.
5. Amen.
6. Agree, except for any speculation that he was the "cause of this". Some opine that he's a baby who can't handle criticism. So because of that he left drill sergeant Wojo for easy going Tom Izzo? Hilarious.
7 and 8. Agree.
9. To those who think this was all about "touches", usage, shots, wanting to be the "man", etc. - take off the blue and gold glasses and look at the facts. Nobody on Virginia (even their top 10 lottery pick) gets statistical "star treatment" and even the stars on MSU have usage rates 20-30% lower than Markus's. At those two elite programs "The strength of our team is our team" is a way of life - not an empty slogan.
9. To those who think this was all about "touches", usage, shots, wanting to be the "man", etc. - take off the blue and gold glasses and look at the facts. Nobody on Virginia (even their top 10 lottery pick) gets statistical "star treatment" and even the stars on MSU have usage rates 20-30% lower than Markus's. At those two elite programs "The strength of our team is our team" is a way of life - not an empty slogan.
Stupid post. MSU and UVa rosters were far more talented than MUs and chock full if guys that could score. If Marcus did not score alot MU could be offensively bankrupt at times. Look at Purdue, a more apt comparison. Many PU fans bitched about Edwards useage and that he ball hogged n shot them out of games. While people that knew a damn thing at basketball knew that PU, just like MU, was an NIT team if their ball hog wasnt scoring 25+ in a game. All the people bitching at edwards were then loving him when he single handedly carried PU to the elite 8 and almost the final 4. In the elite 8 game where he went off against UVa no other PU player scored in double digits and it wasnt solely because edwards was hogging the ball. It was because his teammates were not that good. Unfortunately for MU there was a pair of brother and apparently their parent who were more interested in counting shots and touches than the sucess of the entire team. The young men at Purdue understood who should be shooting at bought into it for the benefit of the team and they enjoyed a B10 championship and an elite 8 run. Sacar, theo, jamal, and the rest of the fine young men working n committed together for the betterment of the team were on board. The Hausers fixated on their lack of glory and submarined the entire season. Two incredibly similar situations that ended in two entirely different fashions. Some can blame a coach they dont like, the rest of the world knows it was the malcontents.
I am glad they will be announcing the schools that they will grace with their mere precense, personally im glad they are announcing so we can leave this saga and classic case of how detrimental selfish individuals can be to a team and its ability to be successful. Wish them the best if u will, im just glad they are gone. They destroyed what could have been a magical season, if some want to wish them the best after they did that then so be it
And yet, Lenny, reports are they were willing to stay if Markus left. If that is accurate, it destroys the notion it is Wojo.
Sam definitely would have transferred from MU if he received as much usage as Markus. Because it's all about the team for him, not wanting more shots, says very naive person.
So all but a few in this big wide world know that Sam and Joey are malcontents. Thank God for them Izzo and Bennett are among those few fools not as smart as you..
They want to play in a program where team play is emphasized over hero ball. To you that is a sign of selfishness. LMAO.
Today you say they destroyed what could have been a magical season. Last week Sam was pretty good with some glaring flaws and Joey didn't even belong in a 7 or 8 man rotation. Huh?
Often when I read your posts I think "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard". But you always manage to outdo yourself. I guess that's an accomplishment of sorts.
Lenny doesn’t like Wojo....period.Who cares? Lots of people dislike Wojo. There are days I am one of them.
The only way anyone could get as much usage as Markus at MU is if we played by Iowa high school girls rules and only 3 players were allowed to cross into the offensive side of half court.
Sam transferred to a school where his usage and shots almost assuredly will NOT increase but his team win totals almost assuredly will. Anyone who is remotely fair and has half a brain can figure out what was and was not important to him.
And yet, Lenny, reports are they were willing to stay if Markus left. If that is accurate, it destroys the notion it is Wojo. If it isn't about touches and is about preferential treatment, why stay if Markus leaves? If it is about preferential treatment, the source, the coach who engaged in it is still there. Why stay if the one engaged in unfair treatment stays but the object leaves? That just doesn't track for me.
There is zero 'evidence' for just about everything in this case. There is hearsay and conjecture everywhere. All of the opinions expressed here, including yours and mine, are based on our interpretation of that hearsay and conjecture. The only verifiable fact is that the Hausers decided to leave a team that was listed as a preseason top 10 in a lot of places.That’s the only fact. None of us are in the Hausers’ heads. We shall see what we shall see.
Lenny, I'm not saying you are wrong, because no one knows what actually all went down. What I will say, is that you are placing a ton of bias into your statements and opinions, and then concluding that "anyone with half a brain"..."the only logical conclusion is"..."anyone can clearly see"... [your stance here].
There are about a million different variables, questions, possibilities at play here. Only one or two support your narrative. The most likely scenarios is that this was a really emotional, and confusing process involving young men, who were looking after their own interests, and a coach, who was looking out for what is best for the team in the long run.
We can't know the details. Spinning wheels, arguing, and throwing people under the bus, in the name of our biased narrative, when we maybe know 3 of a million variables is not good in the long run.
The only way anyone could get as much usage as Markus at MU is if we played by Iowa high school girls rules and only 3 players were allowed to cross into the offensive side of half court.
Sam transferred to a school where his usage and shots almost assuredly will NOT increase but his team win totals almost assuredly will. Anyone who is remotely fair and has half a brain can figure out what was and was not important to him.
My bad. A second fact. The Hausers announced their transfer shortly after Markus announced his return.That is a fact, though reading more into that is not factual.
First of all, there is zero evidence that the Hausers were staying if Markus left. That's pure conjecture.
That is a fact, though reading more into that is not factual.Correct. Beyond that is conjecture.
Forgetful,
Of course there are a lot of details we'll never know. But as far as I can tell, two basic theories have emerged:
1, The Hausers wanted more touches, more shots. They didn't have a problem with "hero ball", they just wanted to be the hero.
2. The Hausers were uncomfortable with the whole concept of "hero ball". To them it wasn't fun and ultimately they didn't think it was as effective.
Had they ended up at Iowa (or even, to a lesser extent, UW) one could make a logical argument for #1. Because they ended up at UVA and MSU all logic points to #2.
There is zero 'evidence' for just about everything in this case. There is hearsay and conjecture everywhere. All of the opinions expressed here, including yours and mine, are based on our interpretation of that hearsay and conjecture. The only verifiable fact is that the Hausers decided to leave a team that was listed as a preseason top 10 in a lot of places.
First of all, there is zero evidence that the Hausers were staying if Markus left. That's pure conjecture. But could I see a possible scenario where they could have stayed if the player the head coach threw out the playbook to defer to left? Why not?
Contrary to what at least one poster might say, I don't dislike Wojo. Before this incident I have moved back and forth between hopeful and a little less so. But IMO this whole situation and what led up to it is one huge red flag.
When I went to bed last night, the pavement outside was dry. When I woke up, it was wet. Whether or not it rained overnight, however, is pure conjecture.
IMHO the places they ended up (UVA and MSU) are evidence. Evidence of the fact this is about playing for coaches whose team's a) have won a lot more frequently than Wojo and b) have done it a team > individual concept. How anyone could believe they're going to Izzo or Bennett to get more "touches" blows me away. You go to those guys only if you're committed fully to the team over individual concept.
Lenny doesn’t like Wojo....period.
Purdue played Iowa HS girls rules?
I learn something new every day around here.
If Sam had Markus's usage the 2 of them would have had around a 75% usage. Purdue had 2 players that totaled 75% usage?
I learn something new every day around here.
Lenny doesn’t like Wojo....period.
Ummm, he is now playing for a National Championship coach and the reigning National Championship team. Maybe he just likes his chances at glory better there?
That's not what you wrote.
Let's be careful to assume because a couple of writers say they are going to MSU and VA, means it's true. Let's wait until there is OFFICIAL announcement from the boys themselves, or from the schools they transfer to, to assume that MSU and VA are done. Lots here thought the same thing about them going to UW as well...how did that end up??
Chico is lying....period.
IMHO the places they ended up (UVA and MSU) are evidence. Evidence of the fact this is about playing for coaches whose team's a) have won a lot more frequently than Wojo and b) have done it a team > individual concept. How anyone could believe they're going to Izzo or Bennett to get more "touches" blows me away. You go to those guys only if you're committed fully to the team over individual concept.Exactly.
I still don't care that they transferred or where they ended up. They aren't (and probably never were) Warriors.Neither is Wojo. Who is getting paid a ton.
Wojo said at his presser that he had talked to Tony Bennett on the phone. I would love to have heard that conversation.
You wrote (sarcastically) that Sam would have left if he was getting as much usage as Markus.
I wrote that if he was, we could leave 2 people in the backcourt to only play defense because 75% 0f our usage would be accounted for. You wrote that Purdue must play that way also, which implies they had 2 players who accounted for 75% usage. I think that is incorrect but if you have numbers that back it up I'm willing to listen.
Makes sense. If scoop does that and we get Wojo fired, we should be able to hire the next coach then, too. I hate kool-aidBut you love the Wojo kool aid. And since you are so all knowing about solutions, what would you have done. And please spare us the wojo platitudes
Well, perhaps we're just talking past one another. I wasn't suggesting that Sam AND Markus would have the same usage TOGETHER, but rather if roles were reversed (and Sam had Markus' usage), he wouldn't be transferring.
It appears you believe otherwise, because he's all about the team and winning.
Morning dew?
Sorry for the misunderstanding. However, I honestly don't think Sam would be comfortable with a 37%+ usage under any circumstances - doesn't seem like that type of a player, at least from what I've seen. Seems to prefer a system over freelance.
But you love the Wojo kool aid. And since you are so all knowing about solutions, what would you have done. And please spare us the wojo platitudes
Nothing will excuse the disaster of the past 3 months. Bit take a deep dive into the Wojo express.
Guru is correct. The reality is, not one person here has had good information on this whole situation. Everyone has a father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate who swears that they have good information. Hell, there was a poster who PMed me and I believe several other people and said the Hausers had committed to Wisconsin over a month ago. A lot of people are falling into the trap of the telephone game and believing everything a trusted "source" tells them. The only sources that matter are Joey and Sam themselves and I'm pretty sure very few (if any of us) have any direct connects to them. And even those that do, I don't think they are going to be sharing that info in a public forum like this.Exactly. There were upwards of 10 scoopers who claimed to have inside info/knew the Hausers/knew someone inside Mubb....
And maybe I'm overreacting because of who is involved, but personally I think Portykus trying to preempt the Hauser's announcement by saying they were going to MSU and UVA seems like a very dickish thing to do. I guess as a journalist your job is to report what you hear....but it strikes me as him trying to get back at the Hausers for not picking UW.
82 u suffer from logerrhea and anyone that has spent more than 5 minutes on this board knows it. Ur incoherrent rambling and consistent misrepresentations are par for your course. No need to apologize we expect it, ur are a true journalist in a profession that is at its lowest ebb. Carry on, we know that u will, our expectations will remain very low.
Guru is correct. The reality is, not one person here has had good information on this whole situation. Everyone has a father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate who swears that they have good information. Hell, there was a poster who PMed me and I believe several other people and said the Hausers had committed to Wisconsin over a month ago. A lot of people are falling into the trap of the telephone game and believing everything a trusted "source" tells them. The only sources that matter are Joey and Sam themselves and I'm pretty sure very few (if any of us) have any direct connects to them. And even those that do, I don't think they are going to be sharing that info in a public forum like this.
And maybe I'm overreacting because of who is involved, but personally I think Portykus trying to preempt the Hauser's announcement by saying they were going to MSU and UVA seems like a very dickish thing to do. I guess as a journalist your job is to report what you hear....but it strikes me as him trying to get back at the Hausers for not picking UW.
How about demanding that Wojo be held accountable for his classic f ups, instead of criticizing kids around him and offering up their lame excuses for Wojo failures. How about taking the blinders off. How about quit chugging the Kool aid, and demanding performance instead of wasted years. Something even you should try. But it always more convenient to accept the same old same old. All the evidence is there for people, just do not want to admit that the guy is still over his head after 15 years at Duke, and 5 here.
I’ll say this: Potrykus is a clown and it’s a joke that a complete Badger homer like him is allowed to be the beat writer for a reputable paper like the Journal Sentinel. He even posts on Buckyville, and I think he’s thrown shade at Marquette on there in the past, and also possibly on Twitter as well.Nailed it.
I feel the same way about Tom Haudricourt. Guy wouldn’t say a bad word about the Brewers to save his soul. But hey, that’s the Wisconsin sports media for you.
So what have you done to hold Wojo accountable besides bitch on a message board? You’re not an alum. You don’t go to games. You don’t donate money.
Seems like a pretty empty gesture.
The quotes in the MSU article are hilarious. Gard did great recruiting the Hausers, the Hausers just weren’t allowed to make their own decisions, according to an insider.
Is there any doubt Gard brought Anderson onto the roster, Anderson started getting in the Hausers ear about how great the Wisconsin system is, how great Gard is, how hard it must be to play for Wojo when he lets Markus run wild, and now Gard has Mr. Anderson, the Hausers’ high school coach, being his personal spokesperson on the Hauser recruitment? After the announcement of their transfer he goes on record speaking for the Hausers. Now there’s an anonymous source dropping all this knowledge about a silent verbal and now how that decision was taken out of their hands. Hard to figure out who this anonymous source is...
Exactly. There were upwards of 10 scoopers who claimed to have inside info/knew the Hausers/knew someone inside Mubb....I said UW early on...essentially heard it from the parents...at that time MSU and UVA were not possibilities. I would guess that is why they ended up at two different schools. If they were my kids...I'd be thinking Joey made a great choice. I'd be looking at Sam and saying it's a bit of a risk...but likely his best shot at the NBA. I love that they didn't go to UW.
Then to claim “my insider had bad intel”...
Frickin hilarious. No one knew a god damn thing.
But you love the Wojo kool aid. And since you are so all knowing about solutions, what would you have done. And please spare us the wojo platitudes
Nothing will excuse the disaster of the past 3 months. Bit take a deep dive into the Wojo express.
I said UW early on...essentially heard it from the parents...at that time MSU and UVA were not possibilities. I would guess that is why they ended up at two different schools. If they were my kids...I'd be thinking Joey made a great choice. I'd be looking at Sam and saying it's a bit of a risk...but likely his best shot at the NBA. I love that they didn't go to UW.You heard it from the Hausers they were going to UW. You proclaimed it several times. That is some serious fricking inside info....yet you were wrong.
I hope like hell MU can play lockdown deffense this year and Markus can be consistent with his game.
Are you trying to win the award for most ironic post of all time?
Well, perhaps we're just talking past one another. I wasn't suggesting that Sam AND Markus would have the same usage TOGETHER, but rather if roles were reversed (and Sam had Markus' usage), he wouldn't be transferring.
It appears you believe otherwise, because he's all about the team and winning.
I’d have cut Howard and let Mr. Hauser coach the team after firing Wojo
Sarcasm was such a great invention.
I’ll say this: Potrykus is a clown and it’s a joke that a complete Badger homer like him is allowed to be the beat writer for a reputable paper like the Journal Sentinel. He even posts on Buckyville, and I think he’s thrown shade at Marquette on there in the past, and also possibly on Twitter as well.
I feel the same way about Tom Haudricourt. Guy wouldn’t say a bad word about the Brewers to save his soul. But hey, that’s the Wisconsin sports media for you.
Exactly. There were upwards of 10 scoopers who claimed to have inside info/knew the Hausers/knew someone inside Mubb....
Then to claim “my insider had bad intel”...
Frickin hilarious. No one knew a god damn thing.
MSU was working through scholarship issues and UVA had guys exploring the draft process. No wonder people thought UW. The only thing that was never accurate was that they gave an early silent verbal.When did they change their mind? They were for sure going to UW and then changed their mind? Is this info from the Hauser’s parents or someone inside Mubb?
These are college kids who change their mind all the time. Recruiting info has a shelf life, and what someone is told can change in an instant. No need to go after people who post what they hear.
Sarcasm was such a great invention.
You heard it from the Hausers they were going to UW. You proclaimed it several times. That is some serious fricking inside info....yet you were wrong.I don't lie....initial post from april 22nd below...heard more (and more reliable) after that...again saying UW. Obviously things changed and they decided to split up...that means what i heard was wrong? I shouldn't have posted the info that was available at the time? Having inside info on this means jack sh1t to me. No one on this board knows who i am. If you think for one second that I care to impress anyone by happening to have a few connections on this one you are sorely mistaken.
I thank baby Jesus you (and others) were wrong. I guess I don’t understand why many claim to have connections and inside info.....and yet, you didn’t have anything.
MSU was working through scholarship issues and UVA had guys exploring the draft process. No wonder people thought UW. The only thing that was never accurate was that they gave an early silent verbal.
These are college kids who change their mind all the time. Recruiting info has a shelf life, and what someone is told can change in an instant. No need to go after people who post what they hear.
I like being called a “slurper” because I don’t attack Wojo in every postBut you do praise, defend and make excuses for him in every post. So wear the moniker with all the false pride you can muster.
I don't lie....initial post from april 22nd below...heard more (and more reliable) after that...again saying UW. Obviously things changed and they decided to split up...that means what i heard was wrong? I shouldn't have posted the info that was available at the time? Having inside info on this means jack sh1t to me. No one on this board knows who i am. If you think for one second that I care to impress anyone by happening to have a few connections on this one you are sorely mistaken.You are not the only one to have....heard it directly from your source(Hausers). I don’t believe the boys had made up their mind where they were going, but most all sources ASSUMED Wisconsin and stated such as fact. Then we heard of visits to other schools. Some doubled down, trusting their sources yet again, stating the boys were bambouzaling other coaches in some strange charade. If my sources tell me they are going to UW, why are they going through the level of deception? Post all the insider info you want, it just doesn’t seem to mean much in this case.
heard UW second hand through his parents...this person also raved about the parents being great individuals. At that time it sounded like they weren't hearing from MSU or UVA...as i said...hope that changes...i have no interest in seeing them go to bucky.
But you do praise, defend and make excuses for him in every post. So wear the moniker with all the false pride you can muster.
I said UW early on...essentially heard it from the parents...at that time MSU and UVA were not possibilities. I would guess that is why they ended up at two different schools. If they were my kids...I'd be thinking Joey made a great choice. I'd be looking at Sam and saying it's a bit of a risk...but likely his best shot at the NBA. I love that they didn't go to UW.
I hope like hell MU can play lockdown deffense this year and Markus can be consistent with his game.
You are not the only one to have....heard it directly from your source(Hausers). I don’t believe the boys had made up their mind where they were going, but most all sources ASSUMED Wisconsin and stated such as fact. Then we heard of visits to other schools. Some doubled down, trusting their sources yet again, stating the boys were bambouzaling other coaches in some strange charade. If my sources tell me they are going to UW, why are they going through the level of deception? Post all the insider info you want, it just doesn’t seem to mean much in this case.Never said they made up their mind...and I defended the boys when a poster claimed that they were "punking" TI and TB. Given how it ended up...seems like the initial comment of MSU and UVA not being interested is likely...and why they had to go in different directions.
I don’t think you intenationally lied, I think you and others wanted to be right and posted over and over with what turns out to be misinformation.
Doesn’t matter much, and thank sweet baby Jesus they are not wearing cardinal and white.
Nope, which is why I am not alone in saying what I did. You know what, I am probably those guys, too...ehh....with 100% certainty...eh?
Not taking sides one way or the other in the argument, but.....
I simply will point out that someone as slow and unathletic (relatively speaking) as Sam could never have as high of a usage rate as Markus.
So by your logic if I say that you're the biggest douche in the world and I'm not alone in saying it that would prove it was true.
Not that I would say that, of course...it's just comforting to know I could prove it to be true that easily...if I wanted to...eh?
You must have me confused with someone elseNo. Your number is well known.
Sam doesn't want the ball. He just wants the ball to move. Watch SPASH, it's beautiful.Yes as Wojo was
Huge miss for MU.
Yes as Wojo was
No. Your number is well known.
You can say anything you wish LT, nothing has stopped you in the past....don’t stop now.
I think you have me confused with someone elseNow you're going to confuse him
This post at Buckyville by ACinMSP is one of the best ever and will be forever saved.
OMG...and some of them believe it. LOL.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/buckyville/sam-joey-hauser-transferring-from-marquette-t98828-s3700.html
Not taking sides one way or the other in the argument, but.....
I simply will point out that someone as slow and unathletic (relatively speaking) as Sam could never have as high of a usage rate as Markus.
Some observations:
1. Does any other university get as many "silent verbals" as Wisconsin? Which then inevitably fall through? Such bad luck...
2. Greg Gard = Wisconsin's Hank Raymonds continues to ring true
3. The delusion of rodent fans is absurd. The Hausers' committed to Wisconsin, but 1) Stephanie Hauser is a bitch who made the decision that they had to go elsewhere, 2) Their credits wouldn't transfer because Marquette is such a bad school, and 3) Big MU donors paid the Hauser family to go anywhere but Madison. Did I miss any? They only one I didn't see them trot out was that the Hausers were worried about some 324th ranked prospect taking their playing time, so I guess that's progress.
4. Wee willie really, really, REALLY needs to get laid.
Some observations:
1. Does any other university get as many "silent verbals" as Wisconsin? Which then inevitably fall through? Such bad luck...
2. Greg Gard = Wisconsin's Hank Raymonds continues to ring true
3. The delusion of rodent fans is absurd. The Hausers' committed to Wisconsin, but 1) Stephanie Hauser is a bitch who made the decision that they had to go elsewhere, 2) Their credits wouldn't transfer because Marquette is such a bad school, and 3) Big MU donors paid the Hauser family to go anywhere but Madison. Did I miss any? They only one I didn't see them trot out was that the Hausers were worried about some 324th ranked prospect taking their playing time, so I guess that's progress.
4. Wee willie really, really, REALLY needs to get laid.
As embarrassing as it was to realized I'd checked out this weekend and hear this news from some friends with Wisconsin Badgers magnets on their car at Daily Mass this morning here in AUBURN ALABAMA, I took some satisfaction when the response to my joking "get that Badgers stuff out of a church parking lot," to hear the response, "I can't believe we didn't get the Hauser brothers. One thing I do notice a lot though is those of us who went to Marquette from far away often actually root for the Badgers against other teams and in football just because we really love the state from our time there. Note to self, if the main reason your wife marries you is because she is trying to escape the Wisconsin cold then you are probably never going to convince her - even after more than 30 years of marriage, that it would be fun to live there.
I will take your 50s and 60s this week over our 90s and humidity anytime if anyone wants to trade homes!
Some observations:
1. Does any other university get as many "silent verbals" as Wisconsin? Which then inevitably fall through? Such bad luck...
2. Greg Gard = Wisconsin's Hank Raymonds continues to ring true
3. The delusion of rodent fans is absurd. The Hausers' committed to Wisconsin, but 1) Stephanie Hauser is a bitch who made the decision that they had to go elsewhere, 2) Their credits wouldn't transfer because Marquette is such a bad school, and 3) Big MU donors paid the Hauser family to go anywhere but Madison. Did I miss any? They only one I didn't see them trot out was that the Hausers were worried about some 324th ranked prospect taking their playing time, so I guess that's progress.
4. Wee willie really, really, REALLY needs to get laid.
As embarrassing as it was to realized I'd checked out this weekend and hear this news from some friends with Wisconsin Badgers magnets on their car at Daily Mass this morning here in AUBURN ALABAMA, I took some satisfaction when the response to my joking "get that Badgers stuff out of a church parking lot," to hear the response, "I can't believe we didn't get the Hauser brothers. One thing I do notice a lot though is those of us who went to Marquette from far away often actually root for the Badgers against other teams and in football just because we really love the state from our time there. Note to self, if the main reason your wife marries you is because she is trying to escape the Wisconsin cold then you are probably never going to convince her - even after more than 30 years of marriage, that it would be fun to live there.
I will take your 50s and 60s this week over our 90s and humidity anytime if anyone wants to trade homes!
“One thing I do notice a lot though is those of us who went to Marquette from far away often actually root for the Badgers against other teams and in football”Samesies.
Umm no!, indont even follow collge football and still wish 0-12 upon Wisconsin in football and 0-fer in every other sport.
Sam doesn't want the ball. He just wants the ball to move. Watch SPASH, it's beautiful.
Huge miss for MU.
So he blew up his situation moving away from his parents, his girlfriend, his brother to take a 20 month game sabbatical all so he could play 30 games with a team that will remind of his high school halcyon days?
2. Greg Gard = Wisconsin's Hank Raymonds continues to ring true
Greg Gard = Wisconsin's Hank Raymonds continues to ring true
Well done all the way around, Smitty.I agree with this analysis.
Bo is a poor man's version of Al on numerous accounts. Same with Gard vs Hank.
No he did all that because the MU boosters that paid him not to go to UW. Come on keep up guyThis is funny, because it would make the Hausers ineligible. UW fans should turn the Hausers in, if they really believe this nonsense
So he blew up his situation moving away from his parents, his girlfriend, his brother to take a 20 month game sabbatical all so he could play 30 games with a team that will remind of his high school halcyon days?
People move away from their parents, girlfriends and brothers all the time - it's called college. Sam is a little late to the game, but the benefits (in his mind) might include a better program, a more prestigious university and a better coach who plays a style he prefers. Don't get me wrong, Lanche, I wish Sam thought ballin' for MU and Wojo was his dream come true. But it's not, and it's not like he left us for Florida Gulf State or Rutgers.Most likely they will get a better recruit at the 4 for '20
Most likely they will get a better recruit at the 4 for '20
Well, if Sam rides the pines and has a miserable experience at UVA you (or any of us) saying "I told you so" will be the least of his problems. Anyway, it's his decision.I really do not want that for him. But most likely it will happen, just the nature of the beast. Never stop recruiting, hey?
I would take Marquette any day over Virginia.
I would take Marquette any day over Virginia.
Virginia is an excellent school.So is Marquette.
So is Marquette.
Have there been any official news reports on this yet? As far as I can tell most of the websites stating it as fact aren't legit..
Virginia is an excellent school.
Marquette's a good school with a few excellent programs. Virginia is an excellent school
One thing people forget is that Joey was limited since he really plays the same position as Sam… Who does it better. Yes they played alongside each other, and yes Joey is more athletic. But Sam is a better outside shooter, ball handler, passer, post player, and defender.
Sam and Joey to UW until I see an official statement.
Sam and Joey to UW until I see an official statement.
Sam and Joey to UW until I see an official statement.Maybe they are waiting.to see if the MU donor check clears.
Do they need to wait to see who stays in the draft?
Is there any chance that Sam will come back to Marquette?
Nope
Is there any chance that Sam will come back to Marquette?
Is there any chance that Sam will come back to Marquette?
Is there any chance that Sam will come back to Marquette?
According to quantum theory, yes there is a chance. There is also a chance that the huge boulder in your front yard will suddenly fly into the air and land in my front yard.
Regarding Sam, I suspect the chance isn't great.
Honestly, I don't know how I'd feel if he returned. It would certainly improve our chances on paper of being a Final Four caliber team next season, but I wonder if it would have unintended consequences in terms of team chemistry and our roster for the future. Sam's departure creates a domino effect in minutes that will affect guys like Jamal, Greg, Brendan, Ed and others, so his sudden return would change those expectations. Would one or more of those guys resent his return? Would younger players be disappointed at the sudden "loss" of those minutes and transfer?
I have no inside info on Sam or Joey's plans, but I'm ready to move on with the guys we have.
Chance. The door is open.
Is there any deadline that they need to meet to make their announcement?
Is there any deadline that they need to meet to make their announcement?
Do we know that it is from Marquette's perspective? Any word as to whether Wojo & Company have reached out?
Is there any chance that Sam will come back to Marquette?
I've been told Sam and Wojo had an end-of-year meeting that turned into a shouting match.
So no.
Have there been any official news reports on this yet? As far as I can tell most of the websites stating it as fact aren't legit..
Nope. And I changed the subject to reflect the unofficial status of the report. Sam and Joey have not made official commitments - yet.
And, the last thing from Joey was retweeting Goodman as them saying "We hope to make a decision in the next few days, but a final decision hasn’t been made yet. ... and we never previously committed to Wisconsin."
Deadline is tomorrow at 11:59pm so I am guessing the Hausers will decide Friday. I kind of hope they end up at the same school as an F U to potrykus and other badger media for putting out that article last weekend.
Let me no wen Kate changes her mind and wants that threesome, hey?I will send you the invite soon as I get it.
Let me no wen Kate changes her mind and wants that threesome, hey?
If I had to bet, I'd put the current situation at:
Joey - 90% MSU, 10% UW
Sam - 50% UVA, 40% MU, 10% UW
Why do people think there is any chance Sam returns? lol
Why do people think there is any chance Sam returns? lol
Why do people think there is any chance Sam returns? lol
Why do people think there is any chance Sam returns? lol
I know I am in the minority, but I continue to be puzzled by the criticism of the media (Polzin also). They have sources at UW who tell them that the Hausers have informed UW that they have made a decision. If they trust those sources, even if they get a
no comment from the Hausers, they should report it IMO. If they get a denial from the Hausers, and they trust the sources, they still can report it with the denial.
Until the announces he is going elsewhere, you would think there is a small chance. Transferring never made a ton of sense for Sam, and especially now that it seems likely he's not even going to go to the same school as Joey, what is the point?[/b]
I don't think it is likely, but it sure would seem like returning to MU us the most prudent decision from Sam's perspective, assuming the bridges were sufficiently suppressed.
Its not like its never happened. Certainly not to the degree of talent as with Sam, but both Juan Anderson and Jake Thomas announced transfers and came back within the last handful of seasons.
Until the announces he is going elsewhere, you would think there is a small chance. Transferring never made a ton of sense for Sam, and especially now that it seems likely he's not even going to go to the same school as Joey, what is the point?
I don't think it is likely, but it sure would seem like returning to MU us the most prudent decision from Sam's perspective, assuming the bridges were sufficiently suppressed.
Its not like its never happened. Certainly not to the degree of talent as with Sam, but both Juan Anderson and Jake Thomas announced transfers and came back within the last handful of seasons.
Agree but then what would the morons like guru and keefe have to say??
I don't think it is likely, but it sure would seem like returning to MU us the most prudent decision from Sam's perspective...
That's not necessarily from Sam's perspective, though. That's from an MU fan's perspective. As the "unofficial" rumor stands, Sam is transferring to an elite school -- both in terms of current state of the basketball program and academics -- and he'll get two years there. If Sam is thinking beyond his potential for playing professional basketball, I would think that two years at UVA would be extremely attractive.
How will Sam get two years at any NCAA Member Institution?
Most he gets is one!
How will Sam get two years at any NCAA Member Institution?2 years of school, one year of ball.
Most he gets is one!
Deadline is tomorrow at 11:59pm so I am guessing the Hausers will decide Friday. I kind of hope they end up at the same school as an F U to potrykus and other badger media for putting out that article last weekend.
How will Sam get two years at any NCAA Member Institution?
Most he gets is one!
Sam wasn't happy at MU anymore. Why is it in his best interests to return?
I'm talking education, not basketball. He'll have two years at UVA -- one of the better schools in the country. He could get a good start on a graduate degree if he wants.
I can understand people saying that staying at MU might be "better" from Sam's perspective if he prioritizes being eligible to play pro ball a year earlier (and if he values being an "all-time great" at his school). But, if Sam values the education and degree, two years at UVA is a great opportunity. And it doesn't hurt that they also play pretty good basketball there.
I'm talking education, not basketball. He'll have two years at UVA -- one of the better schools in the country. He could get a good start on a graduate degree if he wants.
I can understand people saying that staying at MU might be "better" from Sam's perspective if he prioritizes being eligible to play pro ball a year earlier (and if he values being an "all-time great" at his school). But, if Sam values the education and degree, two years at UVA is a great opportunity. And it doesn't hurt that they also play pretty good basketball there.
From an education standpoint, MU is going to serve him just as fine as UVA.
I don’t think he returns, but whatever his choice, it will be 100% based on basketball and happiness with basketball reasoning.
MU is a fine school. Virginia is a level above MU.
Sam wasn't happy at MU anymore. Why is it in his best interests to return?
We need to let go of the idea that he'd return. Longest of longshots.
MU is a fine school. Virginia is a level above MU.
Let's say Sam did return: would that not potentially cause other players to want to leave the team?
You do realize the highlighted part played no role in his decision to attend UVa.
Instead, it is a reflection of what is important to you, a non-athlete that has zero aspiration or ability to get paid as a professional athlete, and not Sam's calculus.
He’s finished three years of an undergraduate education already. Will he somehow magically be smarter and more capable of making a living for himself if he finishes up at UVA?
Of course not. Ranking are almost entirely based on the qualities of the incoming student base anyway.
He’d do just as well finishing up at either place. The only advantage uva would have is a likely start toward a graduate degree because he would be there two years.
I do realize that. Which is why I specifically said if academics was a driving factor, it's a great opportunity.
I'm not suggesting that Sam is making his decision purely on academics. But let's not pretend that is all UVA has going for it. I was merely responding to an initial post that said returning to MU is the "most prudent" decision for Sam. I was pointing out that UVA has a hell of a lot going for it. Including stellar academics.
If you don't think that the name on the degree matters to a lot of people -- both in hiring and/or admitting to graduate school -- then I don't know what to tell you. No, he won't be smarter. But he will quite possibly be more marketable (depending upon what Sam's future plans are) which might just make him more capable of making a living. I wouldn't necessarily call it magic.
That was my initial point.
UVA is probably a better overall situation for most players coming out of HS or for say, a grad trasnfer. I am not naive enough to doubt that. That being said, one place (UVA) you cannot play in a game until November 2020, the other (MU) you can continue on playing on a top 10 team, get your degree and be cashing a paycheck playing basketball before you'd even step foot on a court in a real game at UVA.What has changed with d) that would make Sam want to return?
That is why coming back to MU is the most prudent if Sam decided to leave for reasons such as a) following Joey; b) upset with Markus over Joey related things; c) parents are upset with Wojo over lack of Joey getting involved, d) parents are upset with Wojo over lack of reigning in his All American. If Sam and Joey aren't even going to transfer to the same place, why exactly is Sam leaving again?
hat being said, I PERSONALLY feel like its in his best interest for his future basketball career to stay at MU. He comes back to MU as a 21 year old senior set to have a big season as a clear top 2 option on a top 10 team. If he leaves and goes to UVA as projected, he sits out a year, graduates as a 23.5 year old 5 year player. He has no idea who UVA may bring in between now and August 2020 that could compete with him for minutes. A lot of unknowns. Now maybe putting his best foot forward for an already longshot NBA career isn't his highest priority. That would make some sense. But I generally think it is safe to assume pretty much every high major college basketball player wants to do what is best for his future pro career.
What has changed with d) that would make Sam want to return?
I do realize that. Which is why I specifically said if academics was a driving factor, it's a great opportunity.
I'm not suggesting that Sam is making his decision purely on academics. But let's not pretend that is all UVA has going for it. I was merely responding to an initial post that said returning to MU is the "most prudent" decision for Sam. I was pointing out that UVA has a hell of a lot going for it. Including stellar academics.
Probably nothing. Just throwing out some of the theories that have been floated here as possible reasons he left. I have no f'ing clue what the actual reason is.
You do realize the highlighted part played no role in his decision to attend UVa.
I know I am in the minority, but I continue to be puzzled by the criticism of the media (Polzin also). They have sources at UW who tell them that the Hausers have informed UW that they have made a decision. If they trust those sources, even if they get a
no comment from the Hausers, they should report it IMO. If they get a denial from the Hausers, and they trust the sources, they still can report it with the denial.
I do as well. Like those telling us over and over that the Bros were going to Wisconsin.
I do get a kick out of those professing to know what's going on in Sam's mind.
I do get a kick out of those professing to know what's going on in Sam's mind.
Relatively annoying that both of them use cookie cutter responses rather than actually writing something for themselves. I am picturing Sam writing something out and joey just looking over his shoulder to write the same thingNah, smart. Why pour gasoline on the fire?
FWIW - I was not professing to know what is going on in Sam's mind. I have no idea and have said as much. I've pretty much avoided discussing it on here since it first happened. Just was starting to feel like the delay meant something. And perhaps with the news today (well technically this past weekend, but confirmed today), the reason for the delay was UVA didn't want both Sam and Joey.
Anyways, is what it is now. Sorta kinda will be rooting against Joey from now on. Too big of a fan of Sam to root against him, but will definitely be happy to say I told ya so if he finds himself playing alot less minutes than he'd like. But I don't suspect that will be the case. The kid is good and will likely be a major part of whatever UVA is going in 20-21.
Good luck to both. Time to focus on the guys in Milwaukee busting their asses to win some games
Anyways, is what it is now. Sorta kinda will be rooting against Joey from now on. Too big of a fan of Sam to root against him, but will definitely be happy to say I told ya so if he finds himself playing alot less minutes than he'd like. But I don't suspect that will be the case. The kid is good and will likely be a major part of whatever UVA is going in 20-21.
I'd be incredibly happy, I love Sam, and maybe just maybe it would keep you from lambasting him the way you have been...doubtful, but maybe.
Sam wasn't happy at MU anymore. Why is it in his best interests to return?
Exactly. People here can't fathom how Sam could sit out a year and maybe be recruited over when he could stay and star on a really good team. But this wasn't some recruiting battle with UVA. It was a decision with 2 components. First, Sam decided he wanted out of MU. Once that decision was reached he was left to choose from decidedly imperfect options. He doesn't want to sit out a year, but it's something he has to do in order to leave Marquette.It’s official according to js
I do realize that. Which is why I specifically said if academics was a driving factor, it's a great opportunity.
I'm not suggesting that Sam is making his decision purely on academics. But let's not pretend that is all UVA has going for it. I was merely responding to an initial post that said returning to MU is the "most prudent" decision for Sam. I was pointing out that UVA has a hell of a lot going for it. Including stellar academics.
If you don't think that the name on the degree matters to a lot of people -- both in hiring and/or admitting to graduate school -- then I don't know what to tell you. No, he won't be smarter. But he will quite possibly be more marketable (depending upon what Sam's future plans are) which might just make him more capable of making a living. I wouldn't necessarily call it magic.
That was my initial point.
I have no idea where anyone who works for me went to college unless they bring it up. And I’ve hired all of them.
Completely overrated nonsense.
If academics really matter ... Amaker at Harvard would fall over himself to get Sam and/or Joey. Why waste your time with a public school? Go to Harvard.
on the East Coast, there are strong alumni networks, especially on Wall Street. The strongest are those who went to the prestigious prep schools then to an Ivy. Athletes from schools with these networks also vault ahead of other alumni. That said, I don't think Sam is choosing UVA for their vast alumni network, he's choosing UVA because he believes Tony Bennett will get him a professional contract and championship rings.
I have no idea where anyone who works for me went to college unless they bring it up. And I’ve hired all of them.
Completely overrated nonsense.
I will lambast someone for leaving, if he doesnt leave then no need to lambaste. Simple logic guru
Agree but then what would the morons like guru and keefe have to say??What would they say? Haha this is gold coming from you lmao
Except you lambasted Luke Fischer constantly, while he was a current player. So that goes against your "simple logic".
Relatively annoying that both of them use cookie cutter responses rather than actually writing something for themselves. I am picturing Sam writing something out and joey just looking over his shoulder to write the same thingAnnoying? The fact they both stiffed UW is the best thing that’s happened this offseason!!
Relatively annoying that both of them use cookie cutter responses rather than actually writing something for themselves. I am picturing Sam writing something out and joey just looking over his shoulder to write the same thing
Serious question here. Were there ever any rumblings of the parents being an issue? I knew we heard second hand the boys didn’t want to play with Tyler Herro but did we legit hear anything about mom and dad sticking their noses into team business?No
I ask because mom is being blamed for them not going to Wisconsin-Madison. It seems laughable to me but who knows.
Serious question here. Were there ever any rumblings of the parents being an issue? I knew we heard second hand the boys didn’t want to play with Tyler Herro but did we legit hear anything about mom and dad sticking their noses into team business?
I ask because mom is being blamed for them not going to Wisconsin-Madison. It seems laughable to me but who knows.
Didn't he also frequently lambast Sacar Anim? Guy's a serial lambaster.
Why is no one talking about what really happened with Sam?
He was all set to return to Marquette until a Bucky booster stepped in and paid him not to come back. It’s obvious.
Went after Morrow not long ago, too. Consider the source.
Made me chuckle.
I would take UVA for free over Harvard any day of the week. Also, Harvard is not the defending national champion.
Went after Morrow?
82 u are so full of crap. The number of words in ur logerrhea filled posts dont make them any more valid.
Ur a blowhard and wrong more often then right.
Team is short on talent
Why we force the ball to morrow and theo who absolutely suck and dont post Sam is beyond me
It's not the obsessive tirades against Luke but still could be considered going after him
Went after Morrow not long ago, too. Consider the source.my source finally told me about the silent verbal. While Sam was visiting Madison late at night, he was heard screaming "I'm COMING!" through the walls of his girlfriends apartment. Apparently it's not what the Badgerfans thought.
Made me chuckle.
You just invalidated yourself from commenting on academics.
And unless UVa wins again next year, Sam will not play for the defending Champs.
In the JS article from Potrykus today, he doubles down on the two sources (Trevor Anderson and his dad?) who said the Hausers were coming to UW and practically paints Sam and Joey as heels for not doing so. What a dope.
That said, I don't think Sam is choosing UVA for their vast alumni network, he's choosing UVA because he believes Tony Bennett will get him a professional contract and championship rings.
The ONLY thing that will determine whether Sam gets a pro contract is his athletic ability. Period!! Bennett has nothing to do with that.
Sam has the necessary basketball skills and size to play in the NBA already. But, is he athletic enough? My guess is no.
The ONLY thing that will determine whether Sam gets a pro contract is his athletic ability. Period!! Bennett has nothing to do with that.
Sam has the necessary basketball skills and size to play in the NBA already. But, is he athletic enough? My guess is no.
Savor the Potrykus tears.
Do the official decisions of the Hausers hurt Marquette or Wisconsin more?
Serious question here. Were there ever any rumblings of the parents being an issue? I knew we heard second hand the boys didn’t want to play with Tyler Herro but did we legit hear anything about mom and dad sticking their noses into team business?
I ask because mom is being blamed for them not going to Wisconsin-Madison. It seems laughable to me but who knows.
The ONLY thing that will determine whether Sam gets a pro contract is his athletic ability. Period!! Bennett has nothing to do with that.
Sam has the necessary basketball skills and size to play in the NBA already. But, is he athletic enough? My guess is no.
You think Wesley Mathews has a long NBA career if Crean sticks around? I know he doesn't.
I think Buzz put guys who looked border line (or worse) into the league.
my source finally told me about the silent verbal. While Sam was visiting Madison late at night, he was heard screaming "I'm COMING!" through the walls of his girlfriends apartment. Apparently it's not what the Badgerfans thought.
Wes stuck out so much he went undrafted.Whatever improvement Wes had in that one year was far more about Dale Layer than about Buzz.
Buzz developed Wes some. He did not take Wes from having no chance whatsoever to stick in the NBA to having a decade long plus career. If Buzz can take a guy from no chance at a long NBA career to borderline NBA All Star in the NBA in one year he should be an NBA head coach.
Wes stuck out so much he went undrafted.
Buzz developed Wes some. He did not take Wes from having no chance whatsoever to stick in the NBA to having a decade long plus career. If Buzz can take a guy from no chance at a long NBA career to borderline NBA All Star in the NBA in one year he should be an NBA head coach.
In the JS article from Potrykus today, he doubles down on the two sources (Trevor Anderson and his dad?) who said the Hausers were coming to UW and practically paints Sam and Joey as heels for not doing so. What a dope.Which is why he (and Oates, et al) are mocked for their "journalism". They are incessant homers who feed the ridiculous "silent verbal" crap and then pile on to the kids and their parents when it turns out their expectations were based on nothing more than wet dreams. They are fan boys first, not journalists.
Which is why he (and Oates, et al) are mocked for their "journalism". They are incessant homers who feed the ridiculous "silent verbal" crap and then pile on to the kids and their parents when it turns out their expectations were based on nothing more than wet dreams. They are fan boys first, not journalists.
Then you have the Eric the Red clown who is simply a bitter, angry old man that spews the same dopey narratives for the delusional rodent message board masses. He's sort of like their version of Sand Knit, though I'll admit that Eric can actually spell.
Relatively annoying that both of them use cookie cutter responses rather than actually writing something for themselves. I am picturing Sam writing something out and joey just looking over his shoulder to write the same thing
Yeah, Eric the Red is a real piece of work. I was reading their board after they lost to Purdue earlier this year and he called Haarms “the biggest c*** in college basketball” and wasn’t even chastised by other posters, much less given a break by the mods. Totally classless. Well, he can strap this Hauser news to his sore ass.
There isn't a more arrogant, pompous SOB on any message board, anywhere..and that's being honest. I have no idea how his wife and kids love him.
Chicos, Lenny and Keefe would like a word.
Chicos, Lenny and Keefe would like a word.
Honestly sorry you feel that way.
Me too, Lenny. Very unfair shot at a very good Scooper.
Honestly sorry you feel that way.
In the JS article from Potrykus today, he doubles down on the two sources (Trevor Anderson and his dad?) who said the Hausers were coming to UW and practically paints Sam and Joey as heels for not doing so. What a dope.
Nah, I threw you in as a joke. Missed the mark, my bad.
Was debating between Lennys or MU82...
You think Wesley Mathews has a long NBA career if Crean sticks around? I know he doesn't.
I think Buzz put guys who looked border line (or worse) into the league.
Nah, I threw you in as a joke. Missed the mark, my bad.
Was debating between Lennys or MU82...
You know nothing of the kind. You can’t prove that, it is mere speculation on your part. Didn’t Crean help put a 3 star 150th ranked Oladipo in the league? We can play this game all day if you wish, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The fact that Travis Diener are the pros is enough to boggle the mods of both when he was a high school recruit at that size.
Agree that Wes got what he got totally on his own but does he even get a chance without the break out senior year?
Buycks, JFB and Jae all got much more out of their post college careers than could have been predicted. One constant of Buzz coached guys? Toughness. Tons of talent in the NBA - toughness can be the tiebreaker.
Butler was a Kentucky offer, most Kentucky kids that receive offers do so because they have a lot of talent.
Toughness was a constant? Every Buzz recruit was tough, thus a constant? Nope
Wow. Buzz was beating out Kentucky for recruits? Must be why he was so much more successful at MU than anyone not named Al! Thanks for reinforcing that point!
Yup, Buzz was beating out one of the dirtiest programs in NCAA history......of course for a long time you refused to acknowledge Butler was offers by Kentucky, instead relying on the littlest acorn story that Buzz molded him into the giant oak.......tell me about the Final Four Buzz reached....must be missing. Maybe he just wasn’t lucky enough in the crapshoot.
Maybe Todd Mayo knows.
I think it's much worse for us but they lost big too.
Sam is a much better player than Bennett was.
Yup, Buzz was beating out one of the dirtiest programs in NCAA history......of course for a long time you refused to acknowledge Butler was offers by Kentucky, instead relying on the littlest acorn story that Buzz molded him into the giant oak.......tell me about the Final Four Buzz reached....must be missing. Maybe he just wasn’t lucky enough in the crapshoot.
Maybe Todd Mayo knows.
Those who insist you can't lose what you never had will say we're the big losers and UW lost nothing.
I think it's much worse for us but they lost big too.
Those who insist you can't lose what you never had will say we're the big losers and UW lost nothing.
I think it's much worse for us but they lost big too.
I also think the actual loss for us is worse -- because we had Sam playing great for us and a potentially fine player in Joey on our team -- but F%ckyville sustained a soul-crushing loss.Not that I care, but a hypothetical. Would Sam and Joey been upset at Ethan Happ's high usage rate? Markus was 5th highest, but Happ was not far behind at number 14.
They could have had Sam originally but blew it because Bo strung him along. If they hadn't blown it, they almost surely would have had Joey, too. Instead, they let both go to their in-state rival. Now, unbelievably, they get a major, major gift: another shot at both of them. And it would seem even more of a no-brainer: grew up nearby, wanting to be rodents; Mom and Dad want to watch every game; close friends on the team; guaranteed starring roles; etc. But in the end, F%cky again has no Hausers on the team, with the younger one (who has more eligibility remaining) going to the best team in their conference. Just as stringing along Sam was ended up being a major indictment of Bo, this situation is a major indictment of Gard's ability to recruit.
For F%cky, it's about as devastating a recruiting hit as can be suffered by a team that never got a commitment from the athletes they "lost."
For us, it's a real loss, and I'm glad you recognize how much worse that is, Lenny.
I plan this to be my last comment on the "loss" topic in this thread. We need not subject others to our friendly discussion on it again. Would be happy to have a PM chat if you want, though that probably isn't necessary, either.
Joe Wolf and Ricky Olson say hello....and Sam Okey said goodbye too.
I don't understand, with all the back and forth on this thread regarding so many different issues, how there could have been 338 replies on this topic without anyone asserting that Crean sucks.So, Scoop is evolving?
Yup, Buzz was beating out one of the dirtiest programs in NCAA history......of course for a long time you refused to acknowledge Butler was offers by Kentucky, instead relying on the littlest acorn story that Buzz molded him into the giant oak.......tell me about the Final Four Buzz reached....must be missing. Maybe he just wasn’t lucky enough in the crapshoot.
Maybe Todd Mayo knows.
I also think the actual loss for us is worse -- because we had Sam playing great for us and a potentially fine player in Joey on our team -- but F%ckyville sustained a soul-crushing loss.
https://twitter.com/big_smooth10/status/1133729726235906049?s=21
Sam denying the whole 'silent verbal' thing.
Joey will be lucky to be a sixth man on MSU, after the experiment with him starting fails.
Joey will be lucky to be a sixth man on MSU, after the experiment with him starting fails.
So, in the end, the Hausers united the Marquette community by reminding us that Wisconsin is the true enemy and giving us one more reason to mock the Badgers. Thanks, Sam and Joey.
https://twitter.com/Jalen_J23/status/1133579426191613952
Not to mention that Jalen Johnson is taking note of Badger fans torching the Hausers on social media.
There's a lesson here for fans of all teams, don't light up a player's or their family's social media accounts. You look like a grade A idiot and hurt the team you care about in the process.
Joey will be lucky to be a sixth man on MSU, after the experiment with him starting fails.
Agreed completely. People need to stop being so brave behind their keyboards and acting irrationally with knee jerk reactions. I believe venting on this message board is better than social media but there still can be negative side effects to it.
It would be a great goodbye gift from the Hausers to not only not go to UW but also have everything go down in a way that recruits don't want to go there because of their fans reactions ;D
I heard Jalen Johnson gave Wisconsin a silent verbal.
I kid, I kid
The thing about a silent verbal, is that usually if you aren't going public with a decision yet, it is for good reason. You want to keep it quiet.
If the people you told leak it to the press, and it is published, you are going to seriously tick off the individual that wanted it private, possibly making them change their mind.
I know if I was given a new job offer, and I told the new employer that I intend on taking the job, but don't want to officially/formally announce it without tying up some loose ends first, and then they went and published it publicly. I would tell them to shove the job offer, as I don't want to work for some ashats that can't respect my privacy.
Leaking info to the press before someone wants it is never a good idea.
Actually, no. Joey could be featured on the 20-21 team. Winston will be gone, Henry might be gone, there is really no proven players on that team. IF Joey gets quicker and stronger and embraces the Izzo mentality, Joey COULD shine. He IS a 6'9, 235lb skilled stretch 4. There are a lot of building blocks there.
perhaps he believes Tony will develop his skills and abilities best and he’ll be in a system to better showcase them to help him stand out to scouts.
You think Wesley Mathews has a long NBA career if Crean sticks around? I know he doesn't.
I think Buzz put guys who looked border line (or worse) into the league.
Kinda like the #done deal Shaka "silent verbal", ai'na?
I understand your point, but it's not about skills. Sam has NBA quality basketball skills already.
But it is about athletic ability/quickness. The best comparison style and size-wise would probably be Kyle Korver. One of the premier shooters in the NBA. Yet, he never averaged over 12 points a game - even when playing 30+ minutes - because of a lack of quickness. Sam is slower than Kyle on both footspeed and shot release. Similar rebounders in college - Korver has averaged 3 RPG in the NBA.
With his skills, Sam could possibly latch on for a couple years as an end-of-bench guy at best. I wouldn't bet on it though.
I heard Jalen Johnson gave Wisconsin a silent verbal.
I kid, I kid
Yup. There is no such thing as a silent deal. Until everything is signed and public there is nothing.
Violating trust and publishing things, just leads to embarrassment and anger for everyone involved.
I don't believe Sam is a NBA player in today's league, but he can make a very nice living playing overseas.
But they will be young. Henry and X will probably be gone to the league. Virtually no contributors from last year's final four team will be there. Joey's freshman numbers are better than any 18-19 Sparty freshman. If Joey buys in and commits to the process, he will be fine.
Agree that Wes got what he got totally on his own but does he even get a chance without the break out senior year?
Buycks, JFB and Jae all got much more out of their post college careers than could have been predicted. One constant of Buzz coached guys? Toughness. Tons of talent in the NBA - toughness can be the tiebreaker.
Agree with all of it, but definitely a loss for both. I think the difference is that while it's tangibly a bigger loss for us because it's two starters, we at least seem to have players in place to take those minutes & already filled a scholarship for the coming year (Jayce) that will at the least help cover the minutes Joey would've provided by filling minutes JH would've played at the 5 and allowing Ed to slide to the 4, replacing more of JH's minutes effectively.
For Wisconsin, that also would've been 2 starters that, at least from a fan perspective, they see themselves as losing. Hard to imagine Aleem Ford or Nate Reuvers matches the level of efficiency & production either Hauser would've given. I also think it's a big blow that, when the Hausers stated they wanted to stay together, it was more appealing to split up and go to different out of state schools than it was to stay home together. That to me is a clear indicator that, while Wisconsin was on the list & received a visit, they were never really a serious option.
Both from an on-court and from a morale standpoint around Greg Gard, this is really bad news for them. In addition, while their 2017 recruiting class was solid, since then Gard has zero 4-star commits in 2018, 2019, or 2020 and zero top-150 players per 247 Sports. The Hausers would've provided a big injection of not just talent but also name recognition and proof of recruiting ability. They don't seem to be the favorites for any of their numerous 2020 4/5 star targets. Gard will have to replicate Bo-level player improvement, & might even need to do better in that regard than Bo did, to get remotely comparable results.
https://twitter.com/big_smooth10/status/1133729726235906049?s=21Because the whole "silent verbal" stupidity is a fiction made up by clowns like Eric the Red. He's now claimed twice that Joey was committed to Wisconsin, and instead of people calling him out, they prefer to pretend it's the players and/or their nefarious parents who screwed them, instead of their idiot leader making crap up to look like a big deal.
Sam denying the whole 'silent verbal' thing.
Because the whole "silent verbal" stupidity is a fiction made up by clowns like Eric the Red. He's now claimed twice that Joey was committed to Wisconsin, and instead of people calling him out, they prefer to pretend it's the players and/or their nefarious parents who screwed them, instead of their idiot leader making crap up to look like a big deal.
https://twitter.com/big_smooth10/status/1133729726235906049?s=21AR30 requesting tweet be deleted ;D
Sam denying the whole 'silent verbal' thing.
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Then clearly Joey should go play for Buzz.
In all seriousness, this could be exactly what Joey needs to go on to be an outstanding college player and, perhaps, an NBA prospect.
At Marquette, he was too close to mommy and daddy, he had Sam to protect him, he didn't get along with the team's All-American player, any little bit of criticism made him pout, and he apparently never really respected Wojo.
At Michigan State, he will not be coddled or protected. He will play for a demanding coach who will publicly call him out for his mistakes. The easy thing to do would have been to go to Wisconsin, where he would have instantly been BMOC, living close to his parents and with Sam at his side. He and his family must know all of that, so I'm impressed with this choice as a way to advance his career.
I wish him well, and I will be rooting for him at least 2 times a year!
At Michigan State, he will not be coddled or protected. He will play for a demanding coach who will publicly call him out for his mistakes. The easy thing to do would have been to go to Wisconsin, where he would have instantly been BMOC, living close to his parents and with Sam at his side. He and his family must know all of that, so I'm impressed with this choice as a way to advance his career.
I wish him well, and I will be rooting for him at least 2 times a year!
I'll second that. The easy thing for both Joey and Sam would be to go to Madison. So many built in advantages and easy lifestyle choices. Trevor, Sam's GF, an Arena they used to own at the WIAAs, 1 hour, 45 minute drive for Mom & Dad, a roster that needs them, local ties...
Instead they split up, each sit out year in new towns away from each other, family & friends and compete for PT on some of the best rosters in the NCAA. I admire that.
To be fair they had a chance to compete for playing time on one of the best rosters in the NCAA without sitting out a year...
Yep. Hopefully the next time an all American player gets on his ass for his crappy play he won’t act like a child and run home to momma.
To be fair they had a chance to compete for playing time on one of the best rosters in the NCAA without sitting out a year...Which just circles us back to the "how bad did things have to be" for them to take this step discussion. The only new piece of data we have is that at one point it was important for the Hauser's to play together. Guess that is no longer true. Oh, and that they are both valued enough by some top tier programs to eat a schollie for a year waiting on them to be eligible.
Which just circles us back to the "how bad did things have to be" for them to take this step discussion. The only new piece of data we have is that at one point it was important for the Hauser's to play together. Guess that is no longer true. Oh, and that they are both valued enough by some top tier programs to eat a schollie for a year waiting on them to be eligible.
Do we know this was the case during the transfer process, or are you referring to MU? During the transfer process, all we had was wild speculation, mainly coming from here and Madison.
Speaking of Madison, do Fran and Swenson still post and think they know all? Such amusing fellows back in the day on the Dodds board.
Well yeah ... there's this.A case could be made that the path they are taking is much safer. Going to one program with a legendary Hall if Fame coach known for player development and the another going to a future Hall of Fame coach who comes from your home town and your positioned to be a featured player the year your eligible. Those two versus a Badger program that could be down for many years .
And they wouldn't have been labeled as guys who quit at the first sign of adversity, too.
But having decided to transfer, I definitely respect them more for choosing the less-safe route, one that figures to benefit them more down the line.
**AR30**Thanks fingers screwup on phone
In all seriousness, this could be exactly what Joey needs to go on to be an outstanding college player and, perhaps, an NBA prospect.
At Marquette, he was too close to mommy and daddy, he had Sam to protect him, he didn't get along with the team's All-American player, any little bit of criticism made him pout, and he apparently never really respected Wojo.
At Michigan State, he will not be coddled or protected. He will play for a demanding coach who will publicly call him out for his mistakes. The easy thing to do would have been to go to Wisconsin, where he would have instantly been BMOC, living close to his parents and with Sam at his side. He and his family must know all of that, so I'm impressed with this choice as a way to advance his career.
I wish him well, and I will be rooting for him at least 2 times a year!
To be fair, we don’t really know what the relationship between Markus and Joey was like. During the game at DePaul, Markus kind of got in Joey’s face after some poor play, but it definitely didn’t look like a “getting on his ass” thing, more like a “hang in there and keep gutting it out” thing. Then again, I wasn’t on the court and don’t know exactly what was said. But neither was anybody else on this board, as far as I know.
So let’s stick to the facts we actually know, which are almost zero outside of the Hausers transferred and are now at MSU and UVA. Everybody involved has been tight-lipped, which is probably for the best.
You should go post on the MSU boards Mr. Hauser. Your little boy doesn’t play here any more.
I don't think RR was defending Joey. He was simply stating a fact that none of us know exactly what happened.
I believe Swenson still does.
It is humorous some of the comments coming from out west are glad they didn’t get the Hausers since they “quit” on Marquette and didn’t want “quitters”, “divas” or locker room “cancers” and “helicopter parents”.
I believe Swenson still does.
It is humorous some of the comments coming from out west are glad they didn’t get the Hausers since they “quit” on Marquette and didn’t want “quitters”, “divas” or locker room “cancers” and “helicopter parents”.
Rather remarkable some feel bad they quit on Marquette now!
Mike,
Agree 100% with paragraphs 1, 3 and 4.
Paragraph 2, not so much.
While clearly sour grapes from wisky fans that doent necessarily make them untrue. From all that we saw last year with the parents, the pouting, the team falling off a cliff, apparently attempting to lead a mutiny, etc they may be spot on.
The sudden shift in perspective on Joey from many here is pretty hilarious. He’s now viewed as being a whiny, soft malcontent. Never heard any of those assertions before he transferred. Some of you sound like scorned lovers
The sudden shift in perspective on Joey from many here is pretty hilarious. He’s now viewed as being a whiny, soft malcontent. Never heard any of those assertions before he transferred. Some of you sound like scorned loversSome teammates have referred to Joey as ‘Soft serve Vanilla’ that’s pretty funny and telling.
The sudden shift in perspective on Joey from many here is pretty hilarious. He’s now viewed as being a whiny, soft malcontent. Never heard any of those assertions before he transferred. Some of you sound like scorned lovers
I still think that both Sam and Joey's decisions had more to do with their NBA hopes than any particular rift with Markus, rift with Wojo, etc.
Sam only has one year of playing left to make an impression. Next year's MU team adds an aggressive guard who can score playing right alongside a guard who is always looking to score. Not to mention a more confident senior Sacar, a more seasoned Bailey, and a comeback Greg Elliot. Odds are, Sam's total ppg would have dipped next year just based on the shots going up around him (including those by his brother). If Sam's going to the NBA, it'll be for his shooting ability alone. A drop in production for any shooter can't look good to scouts, so his 2nd round draft odds probably would have been low. Now, at UVa, he has drawn attention to himself - sure, he has to sit a year, but a very good coach at a very good school wanted him, and their system may allow him to score more. Even if his scoring average stays about the same as it was at MU last year, he's built a story around himself and has proven he can play in arguably the best conference in men's hoops. 2nd round odds likely go up (I'm just assuming 1st round is out of the picture).
Joey's basically in the same boat, but obviously with more eligibility. If playing in the NBA is truly their end goal, then this might have been their best option.
Not saying their wasn't friction on all sides at the end of last year, but this may have been a business decision more than a personal decision.
Some teammates have referred to Joey as ‘Soft serve Vanilla’ that’s pretty funny and telling.
The sudden shift in perspective on Joey from many here is pretty hilarious. He’s now viewed as being a whiny, soft malcontent. Never heard any of those assertions before he transferred. Some of you sound like scorned loversI was polite because he was still here. But he was throwing his hands in the air in November when he didn't get the ball when he thought he should. I chalked it up to freshman immaturity. I noticed late in the year when he would get a defensive board and bring it up himself, then passing to Sam rather than passing it to Markus in stride. And I held my tongue thinking I was imagining it and letting my previous observations affect my interpretation of what I was seeing. His turnovers trying to pass it anywhere but to Markus. I attributed them all to being a freshman and assumed he would grow up. But they all happened. Now he can grow up for Izzo.
Some teammates have referred to Joey as ‘Soft serve Vanilla’ that’s pretty funny and telling.Where? Because I would laugh out loud if that was actually said publicly.
Some teammates have referred to Joey as ‘Soft serve Vanilla’ that’s pretty funny and telling.
You weren't listening then. There were plenty bashing on Joey during the last half of the season as there always is when players go through a long slump. Some made comments about his body language though those were usually dismissed.
That being said, there are definitely some bashing him now that weren't bashing him before. Definitely a scorned lover feel to a lot of it.
You weren't listening then. There were plenty bashing on Joey during the last half of the season as there always is when players go through a long slump. Some made comments about his body language though those were usually dismissed.Meh. I saw an occasional gripe about his body language and many complaints (with merit) about his D, but there’s straight revisionist character assassination going on ONLY because he transferred
That being said, there are definitely some bashing him now that weren't bashing him before. Definitely a scorned lover feel to a lot of it.
Meh. I saw an occasional gripe about his body language and many complaints (with merit) about his D, but there’s straight revisionist character assassination going on ONLY because he transferred
Yes, if he had stayed, most would have held their tongues and hoped he grew up. He didn't stay. Now the repressed gripes are coming out.Yeah that’s not what this is in my opinion (not referring to you). Some of the venomous posts are strongly influenced by scorned lover syndrome
I think we need to recognize that Joey was a freshmen playing out of position.
Joey would of been playing out of position one more year, if the Hausers stayed at MU or ended up at the same school.
Uva’s System isn’t going to allow him to score more. He will only score more if there aren’t more options available. MU’s offense is much more like an NBAs offense.WTF? MU's offense is much more like an NBA's offense?
Wee kneed sum tutti frutti playas, hey?Wee kneed sumore playas of the Kalibre of Sam and Joey tu replace whut Wojo lost.
WTF? MU's offense is much more like an NBA's offense?
Yeah. The four out pick and roll offense is a staple of nba teams.
Kinda funny that almost erevrybody that posts about Hausergate blame Joey and his antics. Rarely does ny body recognize that Wojo could have prevented this, but it is easier to blame the young turncoat than the man making the huge bucks.
Kinda funny that almost erevrybody that posts about Hausergate blame Joey and his antics. Rarely does ny body recognize that Wojo could have prevented this, but it is easier to blame the young turncoat than the man making the huge bucks.
As the days have gone on, more people are targeting Joey as the cause. But I'd still guess if you broke down the % of posts, most of the criticism would have been directed at Wojo. Whose most right? Who knows?Not rearly a criticism of Joey. Had he gone to MSU or UW, would this have happened? Reality is that they are basically the same player and that did not work out long term in MUs system and probably not elsewhere. That’s probably reflective of why they are not together any more? Food for thought.
What did you want Wojo to do?I have answered that for you previously. Wojo did not do enough to handle this situation. It appears that he did very little. So ho ahead with your blinders and keep defending a guy that is obviously in over his head.
As the days have gone on, more people are targeting Joey as the cause. But I'd still guess if you broke down the % of posts, most of the criticism would have been directed at Wojo. Whose most right? Who knows?
This.
Wojo took considerable more heat than Joey did, even after the "Crybaby Joey" narrative came out. Hell, I had been what joyless willie would call a "Wojo slurper," and I place the lion's share of blame on Wojo. I'd guess the ratio of Blame Wojo's to Blame Joey's was at least 2-to-1. At least. With a few Blame Markus & Wojo's thrown in. Very few Blame Sam's, though.
I am outraged that Wojo didn't do more to appease the Hausers!
Happy?
I am outraged that Wojo didn't do more to appease the Hausers!
Happy?
The last 5-6 months of Scoopdom has made me numb to this situation. I would greatly appreciate the all knowing scoopers to recount specifically what could have been done differently one last time and then all of us agree to never speak of it again.
That would also be known as "the best of both worlds". Meaning, those all knowing among us can put on display how brilliant they are by detailing the apparently obvious way this season should have been handled and then the rest of us don't have to live through the mind numbing drivel anymore.
Pretty telling, yes. As in wrong and kinda racist. Which "teammates"?Why? You gonna go give them a piece of your mind?
So the burden of proof is on the people not getting millions of dollars to run a program?
Let’s put Joey aside. We had a player who in three years had more points than butler and wade—transferred up, not down. And somehow ‘scoopers’ are supposed to specifically identify what the million dollar coach could have possibly done different.
Seems misplaced. Result is terrible — no excuse. As you point out, Now it’s just about what happens next. Tired of hearing why abnormal situations are nothing to worry about.
Wee kneed sum tutti frutti playas, hey?I always liked that gum.
I was polite because he was still here. But he was throwing his hands in the air in November when he didn't get the ball when he thought he should. I chalked it up to freshman immaturity. I noticed late in the year when he would get a defensive board and bring it up himself, then passing to Sam rather than passing it to Markus in stride. And I held my tongue thinking I was imagining it and letting my previous observations affect my interpretation of what I was seeing. His turnovers trying to pass it anywhere but to Markus. I attributed them all to being a freshman and assumed he would grow up. But they all happened. Now he can grow up for Izzo.I agree with this analysis.
Yes, if he had stayed, most would have held their tongues and hoped he grew up. He didn't stay. Now the repressed gripes are coming out.
Why? You gonna go give them a piece of your mind?
In hind sight Wojo should not of let Joey and Sam room together.I thought Sam and Markus were roommates.
Nope. Just wanted to know if the guy who made this up actually had any facts. Thanks for clearing it up.
So if Markus left what would you be "regressed griping" about?If Markus left, I would still be supporting those who stayed.
Nope. Just wanted to know if the guy who made this up actually had any facts. Thanks for clearing it up.It’s a fact Jack.
Like you making up Hauser was pressured at Georgetown....or just a few days ago that you knew with absolute certainty Wes Matthews doesn’t make the NBA without Buzz.....or the best yet, you are 100% certain fluffy is me?
Thanks for clearing that up and whenever you want to practice what you preach, let us all know.
Wait...Wes doesn’t make it to the nba without Buzz? He was an undrafted free agent. What exactly did Buzz do for him?
Wait...Wes doesn’t make it to the nba without Buzz? He was an undrafted free agent. What exactly did Buzz do for him?
Like you making up Hauser was pressured at Georgetown....or just a few days ago that you knew with absolute certainty Wes Matthews doesn’t make the NBA without Buzz.....or the best yet, you are 100% certain fluffy is me?
Thanks for clearing that up and whenever you want to practice what you preach, let us all know.
Why are you compelled to insert yourself (and the lies that you repeat time after freaking time) into conversations you're not included in? Obsession is a serious problem - perhaps Fluffy can help.
I’m not repeating any lie, just exposing your hypocrisy. Fluffy and I.....that’s fantastic.Does anyone know who the successor to Mike Deans Dark Glasses is?
I’m not repeating any lie, just exposing your hypocrisy. Fluffy and I.....that’s fantastic.
i get it, lennys tap and cheeks and fluffy are all the same :DDynamic Scooper!
I thought Sam and Markus were roommates.They were before Joey.
They were before Joey.
Yup, pre Joey, Sam and Markus were BFFs. Joey arrives, Sam and Joey room together.
Joey first roomed with Harry.....Well that proves it.
I wonder if this tweet is just coincidence?
https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/1135553506461540352?s=21
I wonder if this tweet is just coincidence?
https://twitter.com/mikebroeker/status/1135553506461540352?s=21
Shut this thread down. Sick of looking at it.
Shut this thread down. Sick of looking at it.
Then don’t.
It is at the top of the list every unnatural carnal knowledgeing day. Its hard to not see.
It is at the top of the list every unnatural carnal knowledgeing day. Its hard to not see.
Well then many don’t share your opinion.
I don't have time to go through 19 pages, and I'm not going to start a new thread to ask whether or not that whole rumor about MU donors paying off the Hausers is still going strong over in buckyland.I loved that story.
In the history of Scoop, with the exception of Bob Dukiet's legacy, there is no topic that posters won't revisit for decades.
It is at the top of the list every unnatural carnal knowledgeing day. Its hard to not see.
I don't have time to go through 19 pages, and I'm not going to start a new thread to ask whether or not that whole rumor about MU donors paying off the Hausers is still going strong over in buckyland.
Buckyland has moved on to talk about all the great recruits they aren’t going to get, and Ethan Happ’s draft chances.But it is still all mom's fault, and ErictheClown insists the Hausers are big fat liars and of course he is right, despite Sam posting they had NOT committed well before the final announcements.
But it is still all mom's fault, and ErictheClown insists the Hausers are big fat liars and of course he is right, despite Sam posting they had NOT committed well before the final announcements.
Eric the Red was probably there. Bet he’s at recruiting visits 😄
I am not going to read through 4500 posts, but has anyone on Buckyville floated the theory that the Hausers didn't come to Wisconsin because Davison punched Joey in the cohones? I don't believe it, but it would be fun to see Bucky fans lose their minds over it.
The 247 Board locked the Hauser thread
https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Board/103802/Contents/Marquette-Golden-Eagle-Transfers-Sam-Hauser-Joey-Hauser-Make-Decision-Wisconsin-Badgers-Basketball-Recruiting-132097096/
The 247 Board locked the Hauser threadall the badger fans saying they're gonna have a loaded 2020 class ;D
https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Board/103802/Contents/Marquette-Golden-Eagle-Transfers-Sam-Hauser-Joey-Hauser-Make-Decision-Wisconsin-Badgers-Basketball-Recruiting-132097096/
Looking forward to opening up that seat that ultimate "helicopter dad" dave hauser was occupying. Kinda like Lavar Ball but his sons will be playing in Europe instead of the nba.
The “big baller” has one in the nba. Sure has been pretty quiet about the other 2. Are his shoes still out there? My thoughts are that LA is trying to move Lonzo and take just about anything in return. Still can’t believe magic picked him at #2
Looking forward to opening up that seat that ultimate "helicopter dad" dave hauser was occupying. Kinda like Lavar Ball but his sons will be playing in Europe instead of the nba.You’re not very bright
He's an extremely talented disbutor and overall PG. He needs to overhaul his shot but he was having a really nice second year until the injury, turned into a very solid defender to. You can knock him for his Dad, but he was a consensus top 3 pick, not like he was an overhyped flash in the pan.
Middle brother isn't any good, but Melo has a lot of potential. Grew to a solid size and is a legit top 30 prospect playing against top tier prep school competition