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U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« on: June 14, 2020, 08:21:35 PM »
Looks like U Conn is going to make some Big Cuts to athletics . Football is sucking wind big time for them.

U Conn may be cutting up to 8 sports. Although some sports have raised funding in an attempt to stay alive.

From standpoint of the Big East, we want U Conn athletics to be healthy. Basketball needs to be their central focus, with minimizing the losses from football as much as possible. Although, I think eventually they should either get rid of football or go to FCS, where they could be a stronger team.

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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2020, 08:40:18 PM »
Yup.   Football has been a drain for years.    Yup, a state school at the mercy of the legislature.   
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 09:14:50 PM »
Football has been abysmal for UConn. They sank big money into it, only to be rewarded with lousy results and on-campus problems. They should crapcan it but there are alums and legislators to deal with. Basketball would be well ahead of where they are without the football moneyhole.

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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2020, 09:24:29 PM »
Good friend of our family and our son was over tonight.  He plays baseball at a Pac 12 school, he said they had a Zoom meeting earlier this week and were told there would be scholarship cuts and the big blow was that if there was no football this fall that there would be no baseball in the spring. 
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 07:31:04 AM »
Brown also announced they are cutting a ton of sports too.

One should expect that most schools will be cutting sports over the next year ... especially if football is played with no fans this fall (huge loss of revenues)
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 07:47:29 AM »
Brown also announced they are cutting a ton of sports too.

One should expect that most schools will be cutting sports over the next year ... especially if football is played with no fans this fall (huge loss of revenues)
Browns cuts were under the guise of competitive excellence for the remaining sports , with dollars reallocated and some sports elevated to varsity status. Said plans were in the works for some time.

Track and Field and Cross Country protested and were reinstated . So brown went from 38-32 sports .

Will be interesting to see what the final result is at U Conn
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 08:07:46 AM »
Browns cuts were under the guise of competitive excellence for the remaining sports , with dollars reallocated and some sports elevated to varsity status. Said plans were in the works for some time.

Track and Field and Cross Country protested and were reinstated . So brown went from 38-32 sports .

Will be interesting to see what the final result is at U Conn


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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 08:30:15 AM »
Football has been abysmal for UConn. They sank big money into it, only to be rewarded with lousy results and on-campus problems. They should crapcan it but there are alums and legislators to deal with. Basketball would be well ahead of where they are without the football moneyhole. if they hadn't hired Kevin Ollie.

FIFY.

Don't get me wrong, I think football hasn't worked at UConn.  But their issues are almost entirely due to Ollie being incompetent. 
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 08:47:46 AM »
This is impossible.  With the Billions of dollars that schools (NCAA) are making off the backs of young athletes they must have the money in reserve to keep sports going. 

I’ve got an idea, let’s take even more money from the schools and pay athletes more than the hundreds of thousands of dollars in value they are already getting so that more athletic programs go under.  The other kids in minor sports don’t deserve scholarships and an opportunity to get an education. Screw the NCAA and its model.  Am I right guys?  Who’s with me?


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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 09:33:58 AM »
Football, hockey and lacrosse are evil and must be destroyed.  Just kidding.

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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2020, 11:47:29 AM »

Because no self-respecting Ivy would admit to financial issues.

not as much money goes to athletics at Ivy schools as you'd think. There has always been hostility towards athletics at Ivy schools.
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2020, 02:00:06 PM »
This is impossible.  With the Billions of dollars that schools (NCAA) are making off the backs of young athletes they must have the money in reserve to keep sports going. 

I’ve got an idea, let’s take even more money from the schools and pay athletes more than the hundreds of thousands of dollars in value they are already getting so that more athletic programs go under.  The other kids in minor sports don’t deserve scholarships and an opportunity to get an education. Screw the NCAA and its model.  Am I right guys?  Who’s with me?


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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2020, 02:27:55 PM »
Football, hockey and lacrosse are evil and must be destroyed.  Just kidding.

Not lacrosse.  We have lacrosse.  And we're pretty good. 

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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2020, 02:57:05 PM »
not as much money goes to athletics at Ivy schools as you'd think. There has always been hostility towards athletics at Ivy schools.
All the Ivy Schools sponsor an enormous amount of varsity sports. It is one of their main sources of full tuition paying students.

The league itself does put limitations on practice hours etc . 
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2020, 12:12:37 AM »
This is impossible.  With the Billions of dollars that schools (NCAA) are making off the backs of young athletes they must have the money in reserve to keep sports going. 

I’ve got an idea, let’s take even more money from the schools and pay athletes more than the hundreds of thousands of dollars in value they are already getting so that more athletic programs go under.  The other kids in minor sports don’t deserve scholarships and an opportunity to get an education. Screw the NCAA and its model.  Am I right guys?  Who’s with me?



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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2020, 12:13:18 PM »
Update from UConn's board meeting yesterday.
Dropping 4 sports programs.



https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Trustees-UConn-COVID-19-budget-cuts-will-cause-15363769.php

UConn faces ‘brutal’ budget cuts
Several sports to be dropped as trustees weigh pandemic finances
By Linda Conner Lambeck

Brad Horrigan / TNS
PHOTO: University of Connecticut Athletic Director David Benedict at a ceremony for new facilities on campus in Storrs in October 2019.

STORRS — The University of Connecticut announced the elimination of several sports programs on Wednesday but will wait until September to determine how cuts forced by the COVID-19 shutdown will impact academic programs.

A clearer picture of the damaging impact is expected once UConn knows for sure how many students it will get and what kind of revenue will be generated.

For now, the best case scenario for the 2020-21 academic year shows a shortfall of $47 million. If things worsen, the spending plan could be off by as much as $129 million, university officials said.

Athletics will shoulder some of that burden with the elimination of men’s cross country, tennis, swimming and diving as well as women’s rowing after the upcoming academic year. Students in those sports will get to keep their scholarships.

Board Trustee Andy F. Bessette remarked that it was a brutal decision.

“The whole university is going to bleed a little bit,” Bessette said during Wednesday’s Board of Trustees meeting.

University President Tom Katsouleas said he recognizes the power and impact of athletics to UConn but said there remains widespread uncertainty so programs need to become more efficient and focused.

He called the decision to eliminate some sports programs painful but in the best interest of the longterm viability of UConn athletics. He also said a review of UConn athletics began long before the onset of the COVID-19 crisis.

The university athletics department was directed to cut its university subsidy by 25 percent. That amounts to about $10 million a year.

UConn has a $1.532 billion operation plan for the upcoming fiscal year. Student tuition and fees pays for about 40 percent of that. The state block grant to its flagship university is roughly 26 percent. The rest comes from grants, research funds, contracts and auxiliary enterprises.

Other options being considered to close the projected budget gap include:

• Reviewing academic programs to see if larger class sizes are possible without compromising quality — even though the fall plan calls for classes to run at 30 percent capacity.

• Cutting or reducing programs with low enrollment.

• Seek new revenue through entrepreneurial programs and auxiliary services.

• Cut labor costs by possibly postponing pay raises or instituting furloughs, layoffs or some combination. UConn spends 57 percent of its operating budget on staffing costs.

Earlier this week, Katsouleas announced that there would be furloughs of one or two days a month for managerial staff, including himself.

Talks with unions are ongoing. More than 90 percent of its employees are under collective bargaining agreements.

Tom Bontly, president of the UConn AAUP chapter, said the union is fully committed to protecting the high quality and affordability of public higher education and was awaiting more information.

“UConn AAUP stands ready to work with our colleagues in the administration to advance the university’s mission,” Bontly told trustees on Wednesday. “We need to work together on win-win solutions both long and short term.”

He called for cost cutting measures that won’t pass the buck to students or faculty and staff and asked that the state’s rainy day fund be taped to help UConn weather its current storm.

State Sen. Will Haskell, D-Westport, co-chair of the legislature’s Higher Education Committee, said he was saddened that student-athletes on the four affected teams have had their university athletic careers cut short.

“UConn’s Athletic Department has run a serious deficit for a number of years,” he added. “It is unfortunate that these four teams have been singled out for elimination when the financial problems are departmentwide. The Huskies football team, alone, ran a deficit of $13.3 million in 2019.”

The four sports cut impact 124 student-athletes and four coaches.

Trustees Chair Dan Toscano said in addition to more than a dozen speakers — most of whom pleaded with the board not to cut their respective sports — he received numerous emails from UConn alumni and others asking that sports be spared.

The board, which met for more than 5 hours Wednesday before approving the spending plan, was told that much of the COVID-19 loss can be tied to revenue lost when students were sent home last spring. There is also a big hit in NCAA revenue distributions.

Katsouleas told trustees that so far student deposits for the fall are good.

UConn plans to bring students back to campus in the fall but will fill its residence halls to only 70 percent capacity. Who gets to live on campus depends on desire and need, said Dean of Students Eleanor Daugherty.

Students will move in two weeks before the start of classes, will be tested for the virus and, according to Daugherty, essentially “live in a bubble.”

That doesn’t mean they will be confined to campus but encouraged to do so and would be expected to follow the same public health safety guidelines they would if at home.

“We can have a residential experience on campus,” Daugherty said. Apartments and suites will be almost fully occupied. Traditional dorms is what will have a 50 percent occupancy rate.

The rules will apply to both students who live in residence halls in Storrs and Stamford.

Student housing assignments will go out in July.

Space will be set aside in student housing should any students need to be quarantined.

Dining halls will be open for take-out service only. Should the university allow dine-in service at some point during the semester, seating and tables would be spaced to allow for social distancing.

The UConn Health budget also took a deep hit because of the pandemic, with a $115 million gap to fill in the new fiscal year.

On the capital side, UConn is still on target to receive $260 million in state bond money to support its NextGenCT Science program and other building projects.

lclambeck@ctpost.com ; twitter/lclambeck

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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2020, 03:42:37 PM »
Update from UConn's board meeting yesterday.
Dropping 4 sports programs.



https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Trustees-UConn-COVID-19-budget-cuts-will-cause-15363769.php

UConn faces ‘brutal’ budget cuts
Several sports to be dropped as trustees weigh pandemic finances
By Linda Conner Lambeck

Brad Horrigan / TNS
PHOTO: University of Connecticut Athletic Director David Benedict at a ceremony for new facilities on campus in Storrs in October 2019.

STORRS — The University of Connecticut announced the elimination of several sports programs on Wednesday but will wait until September to determine how cuts forced by the COVID-19 shutdown will impact academic programs.

A clearer picture of the damaging impact is expected once UConn knows for sure how many students it will get and what kind of revenue will be generated.

For now, the best case scenario for the 2020-21 academic year shows a shortfall of $47 million. If things worsen, the spending plan could be off by as much as $129 million, university officials said.

Athletics will shoulder some of that burden with the elimination of men’s cross country, tennis, swimming and diving as well as women’s rowing after the upcoming academic year. Students in those sports will get to keep their scholarships.

Board Trustee Andy F. Bessette remarked that it was a brutal decision.

“The whole university is going to bleed a little bit,” Bessette said during Wednesday’s Board of Trustees meeting.

University President Tom Katsouleas said he recognizes the power and impact of athletics to UConn but said there remains widespread uncertainty so programs need to become more efficient and focused.

He called the decision to eliminate some sports programs painful but in the best interest of the longterm viability of UConn athletics. He also said a review of UConn athletics began long before the onset of the COVID-19 crisis.

The university athletics department was directed to cut its university subsidy by 25 percent. That amounts to about $10 million a year.

UConn has a $1.532 billion operation plan for the upcoming fiscal year. Student tuition and fees pays for about 40 percent of that. The state block grant to its flagship university is roughly 26 percent. The rest comes from grants, research funds, contracts and auxiliary enterprises.

Other options being considered to close the projected budget gap include:

• Reviewing academic programs to see if larger class sizes are possible without compromising quality — even though the fall plan calls for classes to run at 30 percent capacity.

• Cutting or reducing programs with low enrollment.

• Seek new revenue through entrepreneurial programs and auxiliary services.

• Cut labor costs by possibly postponing pay raises or instituting furloughs, layoffs or some combination. UConn spends 57 percent of its operating budget on staffing costs.

Earlier this week, Katsouleas announced that there would be furloughs of one or two days a month for managerial staff, including himself.

Talks with unions are ongoing. More than 90 percent of its employees are under collective bargaining agreements.

Tom Bontly, president of the UConn AAUP chapter, said the union is fully committed to protecting the high quality and affordability of public higher education and was awaiting more information.

“UConn AAUP stands ready to work with our colleagues in the administration to advance the university’s mission,” Bontly told trustees on Wednesday. “We need to work together on win-win solutions both long and short term.”

He called for cost cutting measures that won’t pass the buck to students or faculty and staff and asked that the state’s rainy day fund be taped to help UConn weather its current storm.

State Sen. Will Haskell, D-Westport, co-chair of the legislature’s Higher Education Committee, said he was saddened that student-athletes on the four affected teams have had their university athletic careers cut short.

“UConn’s Athletic Department has run a serious deficit for a number of years,” he added. “It is unfortunate that these four teams have been singled out for elimination when the financial problems are departmentwide. The Huskies football team, alone, ran a deficit of $13.3 million in 2019.”

The four sports cut impact 124 student-athletes and four coaches.

Trustees Chair Dan Toscano said in addition to more than a dozen speakers — most of whom pleaded with the board not to cut their respective sports — he received numerous emails from UConn alumni and others asking that sports be spared.

The board, which met for more than 5 hours Wednesday before approving the spending plan, was told that much of the COVID-19 loss can be tied to revenue lost when students were sent home last spring. There is also a big hit in NCAA revenue distributions.

Katsouleas told trustees that so far student deposits for the fall are good.

UConn plans to bring students back to campus in the fall but will fill its residence halls to only 70 percent capacity. Who gets to live on campus depends on desire and need, said Dean of Students Eleanor Daugherty.

Students will move in two weeks before the start of classes, will be tested for the virus and, according to Daugherty, essentially “live in a bubble.”

That doesn’t mean they will be confined to campus but encouraged to do so and would be expected to follow the same public health safety guidelines they would if at home.

“We can have a residential experience on campus,” Daugherty said. Apartments and suites will be almost fully occupied. Traditional dorms is what will have a 50 percent occupancy rate.

The rules will apply to both students who live in residence halls in Storrs and Stamford.

Student housing assignments will go out in July.

Space will be set aside in student housing should any students need to be quarantined.

Dining halls will be open for take-out service only. Should the university allow dine-in service at some point during the semester, seating and tables would be spaced to allow for social distancing.

The UConn Health budget also took a deep hit because of the pandemic, with a $115 million gap to fill in the new fiscal year.

On the capital side, UConn is still on target to receive $260 million in state bond money to support its NextGenCT Science program and other building projects.

lclambeck@ctpost.com ; twitter/lclambeck
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Re: U Conn with Big Cuts To Athletics
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2020, 05:35:07 PM »
U Conn unwilling to address the elephant in the room a/k/a Football

They addressed it--it's got a lot of sunk costs but it represents top-line growth for athletics if things can be turned around.

The flagship state schools of 48 of the 50 play football, excepting Alaska and Vermont. It would be embarrassing to think why the leading state university somehow couldn't play when smaller state schools like Central Connecticut, Southern Connecticut, and New Haven can field teams.

The return of UConn means football in four of 11 Big East schools.

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2020, 05:58:27 PM »
They addressed it--it's got a lot of sunk costs but it represents top-line growth for athletics if things can be turned around.

The flagship state schools of 48 of the 50 play football, excepting Alaska and Vermont. It would be embarrassing to think why the leading state university somehow couldn't play when smaller state schools like Central Connecticut, Southern Connecticut, and New Haven can field teams.

The return of UConn means football in four of 11 Big East schools.

those schools are FCS.  That is probably the level UConn should be at. They could be a power and win titles as Villanova has instead of hoping to get into a money-losing nothing bowl game while cutting scholarship and travel costs significantly. The CAA would be a perfect fit for them.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2020, 06:33:55 PM »
those schools are FCS.  That is probably the level UConn should be at. They could be a power and win titles as Villanova has instead of hoping to get into a money-losing nothing bowl game while cutting scholarship and travel costs significantly. The CAA would be a perfect fit for them.
I agree with this analysis.
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2020, 06:55:28 PM »
those schools are FCS.  That is probably the level UConn should be at. They could be a power and win titles as Villanova has instead of hoping to get into a money-losing nothing bowl game while cutting scholarship and travel costs significantly. The CAA would be a perfect fit for them.

CAA teams get one, maybe two I-A/FBS games a year, but at a lower guarantee fee than other I-A schools. None will ever play a I-AA/FCS school at Pratt & Whitney Stadium (aka Rentchler Field), a stadium designed for the New England Patriots, but who never showed up. The remainder of the schedule would be filled with some teams you know (Villanova, James Madison, Delaware), but a lot of others like Elon, Towson, Albany, and Stony Brook, none of whom are going to sell tickets.

The I-AA playoffs are heavily tilted to a few schools (North Dakota State being the most obvious) who buy home playoff games all the way to the finals. Turnout for playoff games in Connecticut in the Northeast would be sparse. Villanova was sent to Southeastern Louisiana for their first round playoff game last year, it drew 4,173.  Albany hosted Central Connecticut in the first round before 1,660. December is basketball season and UConn isn't going to pay $50,000 to the NCAA for a game to host Eastern Illinois or Kennesaw State in the snow.

Contrast that with some forgettable third tier bowl UConn could shoot for like the Boca Raton Bowl (payout: $900,000) or the Hawaii Bowl (payout: $1 million). The FCS playoffs require the schools to put up the travel costs and there is no payout at the end, only the trophy.





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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2020, 07:38:47 PM »
They addressed it--it's got a lot of sunk costs but it represents top-line growth for athletics if things can be turned around.

The flagship state schools of 48 of the 50 play football, excepting Alaska and Vermont. It would be embarrassing to think why the leading state university somehow couldn't play when smaller state schools like Central Connecticut, Southern Connecticut, and New Haven can field teams.

The return of UConn means football in four of 11 Big East schools.

NY does not have a flagship SUNY football program.

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2020, 08:09:55 PM »
NY does not have a flagship SUNY football program.
Does Rhode Island?

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2020, 08:15:45 PM »
Does Rhode Island?

Don’t believe so. Same with Vermont, Mass, NH etc.

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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2020, 08:54:19 PM »
Does Rhode Island?

URI football plays in the CAA. The original Yankee Conference was the flagship state schools of New England: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island.




 

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