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Author Topic: Wisconsin  (Read 318205 times)

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1725 on: September 10, 2020, 03:19:15 PM »
Absolutely.  But the moment something as bombastic as that comes out the media and social media blow it up.  And then when it isn't a perfect it gets shredded and pushed aside as bogus.  It isn't as if the people who put it out aren't well respected biostatistitians.  But you know.  'Merica.

Then the authors should have had it peer reviewed first, like forgetful always says.  But election.

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« Reply #1726 on: September 10, 2020, 04:11:29 PM »
Then the authors should have had it peer reviewed first, like forgetful always says.  But election.

That's what should happen with all of them... but preliminary results get release before peer review all the time.  And then the spin starts because politics.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1727 on: September 10, 2020, 06:56:26 PM »
perfect storm for WI to see large spike in cases
Colleges open and the protests. 


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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1728 on: September 10, 2020, 07:33:40 PM »
WI SC just issued a temporary injunction against Dane Co's order to close schools for grades 3-12.


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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1729 on: September 10, 2020, 08:42:57 PM »
WI SC just issued a temporary injunction against Dane Co's order to close schools for grades 3-12.



So much for leaving it up to the locals. 
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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1730 on: September 10, 2020, 08:48:04 PM »
So much for leaving it up to the locals.

When there is no legal or scientific basis for the county's order,  you have to go to the grownups.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1731 on: September 10, 2020, 08:53:25 PM »
lol, nobody's called the Wisc SC "grownups" in years maybe even a decade or more.

It's been a while since we haven't been a laughingstock in the legal community.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1732 on: September 11, 2020, 06:03:24 AM »
When there is no legal or scientific basis for the county's order,  you have to go to the grownups.

Or when it hurts your ideology's feelings.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1733 on: September 11, 2020, 06:56:02 AM »
Or when it hurts your ideology's feelings.

Yaeh, cuz the left never uses the court system.   ::) ::)

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1734 on: September 11, 2020, 07:59:57 AM »
When there is no legal or scientific basis for the county's order,  you have to go to the grownups.


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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1735 on: September 12, 2020, 10:38:20 AM »
In the seven days ending Friday, there were 1,711 newly confirmed cases in people ages 10-19, compared to 732 in the seven days before that.

For 20-somethings, there were 1,977 cases this week, up from 1,314 cases last week.

In many other age groups, including 30-somethings, 40-somethings, 60-somethings and 80-somethings, there were actually fewer new cases this week, even as Wisconsin set  records overall.


Should we expect the large increases in kids spurred on by school openings to lead to an increase in adults and the population in general as families are exposed to the increasing number of infected kids?

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1736 on: September 12, 2020, 10:59:04 AM »
In the seven days ending Friday, there were 1,711 newly confirmed cases in people ages 10-19, compared to 732 in the seven days before that.

For 20-somethings, there were 1,977 cases this week, up from 1,314 cases last week.

In many other age groups, including 30-somethings, 40-somethings, 60-somethings and 80-somethings, there were actually fewer new cases this week, even as Wisconsin set  records overall.


Should we expect the large increases in kids spurred on by school openings to lead to an increase in adults and the population in general as families are exposed to the increasing number of infected kids?

Yeah, probably.  R0 still out of hand.  We haven't taken this seriously for months, and now we're all headed inside for the fall/winter.

Prep.  It's going to be bad.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1737 on: September 12, 2020, 11:09:48 AM »
Yeah, probably.  R0 still out of hand.  We haven't taken this seriously for months, and now we're all headed inside for the fall/winter.

Prep.  It's going to be bad.

Thanks, Hards.

You confirmed my thoughts on this. Hoping we are both wrong.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1738 on: September 12, 2020, 06:14:10 PM »
When there is no legal or scientific basis for the county's order,  you have to go to the grownups.

When i want to know the legality on any given issue, Ziggys is always my go to guy.

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« Reply #1739 on: September 12, 2020, 06:29:22 PM »
Yeah, probably.  R0 still out of hand.  We haven't taken this seriously for months, and now we're all headed inside for the fall/winter.

Prep.  It's going to be bad.


WI is definitely moving in the wrong direction at a bad time.

Coming from WI and now living in MN, I have followed the trends in both places. About a month ago, WI had several thousand fewer cases than MN. As of today, WI has about 4k more cases and is pulling away. Not a good direction heading into fall flu season.

When those teens and twenty-somethings start to give it to their parents and grandparents, it could get ugly.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1740 on: September 12, 2020, 08:23:59 PM »

WI is definitely moving in the wrong direction at a bad time.

Coming from WI and now living in MN, I have followed the trends in both places. About a month ago, WI had several thousand fewer cases than MN. As of today, WI has about 4k more cases and is pulling away. Not a good direction heading into fall flu season.

When those teens and twenty-somethings start to give it to their parents and grandparents, it could get ugly.

or maybe the college students that live on campus will just pass it within their dorms and have some sort of immunity built on the campus.
College professors are not in close contact with students normally and by the time the kids go home by their parents/grandparents they are clear

Have to think positive sometimes thinking negative all the time is not good

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1741 on: September 12, 2020, 09:14:59 PM »
or maybe the college students that live on campus will just pass it within their dorms and have some sort of immunity built on the campus.
College professors are not in close contact with students normally and by the time the kids go home by their parents/grandparents they are clear

Have to think positive sometimes thinking negative all the time is not good


That’s a best case scenario, and it fails to consider the huge increase in teenagers. And it ignores the fact that many college students are commuters.

Positive thinking is great, but when it’s unrealistically positive you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1742 on: September 12, 2020, 09:52:08 PM »

When i want to know the legality on any given issue, Ziggys is always my go to guy.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1743 on: September 14, 2020, 09:30:14 PM »
An archbishop in Milwaukee is warning that missing Mass due to COVID-19 fears is a “grave sin.”

As an order excusing parishioners from attending in person is set to expire, Archbishop Jerome Listecki is encouraging parishioners to return to church in a letter posted to the archdiocese website.

“It will be the responsibility of those who are capable and not prohibited by other circumstances to attend Sunday Mass,” Listecki wrote. “Those who deliberately fail to attend Sunday Mass commit a grave sin.”

Listecki’s chief of staff told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that the archbishop doesn’t want parishioners to stay home and watch the livestream only because it’s more comfortable.
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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1744 on: September 14, 2020, 10:06:33 PM »
Completely reckless.
Bishops showing once again how out of touch with the real world they can be. And why I ignore lots of what they say.
Thank goodness Cupich hasn’t done the same.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1745 on: September 14, 2020, 10:13:02 PM »
An archbishop in Milwaukee is warning that missing Mass due to COVID-19 fears is a “grave sin.”

As an order excusing parishioners from attending in person is set to expire, Archbishop Jerome Listecki is encouraging parishioners to return to church in a letter posted to the archdiocese website.

“It will be the responsibility of those who are capable and not prohibited by other circumstances to attend Sunday Mass,” Listecki wrote. “Those who deliberately fail to attend Sunday Mass commit a grave sin.”

Listecki’s chief of staff told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that the archbishop doesn’t want parishioners to stay home and watch the livestream only because it’s more comfortable.


In addition to making a poor decision, he uses a poor choice of words by including “grave.”

And no, I am not trying to be funny. That is an absolutely chilling statement by the archbishop, and including “grave“ shows how tone deaf he is to the situation.
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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1746 on: September 14, 2020, 11:10:56 PM »
Completely reckless.
Bishops showing once again how out of touch with the real world they can be. And why I ignore lots of what they say.
Thank goodness Cupich hasn’t done the same.

$$$$ May have something to do with this.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1747 on: September 15, 2020, 11:40:22 AM »
$$$$ May have something to do with this.

I was unaware the the Milwaukee Archdiocese started charging admission for mass

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1748 on: September 15, 2020, 12:02:14 PM »
I was unaware the the Milwaukee Archdiocese started charging admission for mass

Collection baskets don't get filled by virtual attendees.

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Re: Wisconsin
« Reply #1749 on: September 15, 2020, 12:41:27 PM »
Mass attendance has trended downward for years+. 

One wonders if COVID will super-charge that trend and the bottom will fall out.

 

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