Kolek planning to go pro
Sox were never going to offer that kind of deal to Cole.As for Mazara, I think he's a very blah player, but I'm OK with what they gave up for him. Walker as a 22-year-old slashed .284/.361/.451 in Single A last year.Mazara as a 24-year-old slashed .268/.318/.469 in the majors last year.
Yankees may get him but I doubt at that number.
Probably would have taken 10 years, 360 million.
But only is they use the $ they saved on 2 good starting pitchers.
Yeah. I don't get the hate for this move. Mazara isn't perfect, but he is a real good strong side platoon. Still pretty young with a chance to improve, at very least he gives you a MLB caliber player, which they didnt last year. And they traded a guy that was basically redundant in their system.
I think objectively the trade itself shouldn't move the needle much either way. They gave up a mid-tier prospect for a mid-tier major league player.I'd guess the hate is more out of fear that this it all the Sox are going to come up with this offseason. In which case, the hate is justified. I like the Grandal move, but after another year of being promised that the Sox would be at the big boys table this winter, if Grandal, Mazara and maybe some back-of-the-rotation starter is it, fans will understandably feel Rick Hahn has become football-holding Lucy to our Charlie Brown.
Completely agree.
I agree on all of the opinions on Mazara. Just an OK guy, nothing more. But, he will replace the ABs of Cordell, Palka, Tilson, and Delmonico. THAT is a huge upgrade. If this move (plus Grandal) is combined with getting at least one of the 2nd tier of starters, plus a piece or two for the bullpen, it will rate as a fairly successful off-season.
Yep. Except unlike lottery winners, deez dudes all have fookin' skills that no other humans have.
And it's done. Quite the running mate for Trout. And with Adell coming, Ohtani coming back, if they can get a pitcher or two they could be something.
I don't follow the Angels and don't pretend to be an expert on them (as hoopaloop does with the Panthers). But I did see a quote in which Moreno said he'd rather give big money to position players than pitchers. How has that been working for him?He bought the team less than a year after the Angels won their only championship (2002). Under his watch, they have never made it back to the World Series and have only reached the ALCS twice. They haven't won a single postseason game the last 10 seasons -- despite having baseball's best player for almost that entire span. They have had losing records in 6 of those 10 seasons.And the trend has not been their friend: Losing records the last 4 seasons, finishing 21, 21, 23 and 35 games out of first place.“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” -- Albert Einstein
Clearly you don’t know much about them as stated. I don’t follow the Panthers, just listen to the experts I trus and see how many games they won with an injured Cam that the team kept shuttling out there vs a healthy backup....0 wins is 0 wins...poor play, etc.As for Moreno, let’s put this in context. The Angels in their entire history have won only 9 division titles. I believe 6 of them have been with Moreno as the owner. Losing records the last four years...yes...but go a little deeper and two of them at 80-82, meaning one game from .500. They also had the best record in baseball in 2014. They have had more Tommy John surgeries since 2009 then anyone and by a huge number...lots of bad luck on that front. Two promising starting pitchers dead as well.His rationale is the pitcher helps you once every 5 days vs the hitter all year round. Pitching is key, we all get it, but also more risky investment. He went hard after Cole, he didn’t get him....he certainly values pitching, but you cannot always get what you want. Let’s not forget he did get Ohtani, a pitcher and hitter. Ther e are only two players I can think of that most Angels fans get on Arte for...Hamilton and Wells. Pujols was a gamble to try and win it all in the first few years...they had the best record in baseball and ran into the Royals who swept every team in the AL until losing in 7 in the WS. Albert is a model citizen, great clubhouse leader, community guy, etc. Hamilton was awful. Wells was awful. He kept a trout when many experts said he was gone. He got Simmons for a song. Ohtani for a song. Just bought the land from the city which will keep the team in OC and out of dreaded LA county for the next 50 years.
Look at this! Cheeks and 82 poking at each other to start a pissing match in the MLB thread. There's something new.