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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: DegenerateDish on March 24, 2014, 06:39:40 PM
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"Nothing done, nothing imminent -per multiple sources".
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Dude if we let Howland get away with Shaka not locked down..... I may never forgive MU
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That's it, calling it an evening.
We'll do it all over again tomorrow
See ya then
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Heisenberg
If a fan, stay on course tonight....might be surprised.
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Heisenberg
If a fan, stay on course tonight....might be surprised.
In Goose and Keefe I trust.
Or until twitter explodes again ;D
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Nah, he's just gotta go plug in the Tesla.
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Heisenberg
If a fan, stay on course tonight....might be surprised.
Torture.
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Dude if we let Howland get away with Shaka not locked down..... I may never forgive MU
This is where I'm at with it. Just get one of them
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Dude if we let Howland get away with Shaka not locked down..... I may never forgive MU
Starting to look ominous
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Goose, I have thought for a long time that you are a fantastic "insider" and I really appreciate all the stuff you post. Any info you can give us as to what the hold up if with a hiring? Are we exploring interest still, is something locked down and just logistics at this point, what?
Thanks.
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In Goose and Keefe I trust.
Or until twitter explodes again ;D
Goodman is plugged in. He's not saying no Shaka or Howland. He's saying we can go enjoy our lives tonight.
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Scoop
Long time reader, ten time writer?
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They wouldn't announce this late. I'll see if the IT guys at work can block my internet until late afternoon tomorrow.
Dude if we let Howland get away with Shaka not locked down..... I may never forgive MU
I'll promise to make a donation to MU for all I'm worth. On Twitter. The check will get lost in the mail.
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Hence the name... 2009 Grad, Season ticket holder since then.
Until know I've pretty much just relied on everyone else to ask the questions I have. Enough people on here that post regularly my comments would usually be redundant.
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Just got off the phone with "friend" in Milwaukee at MU. Done.
Leak later today. Presser Wednesday, which is interesting that Marquette has blocked off Wednesday for 2-3 days now.
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Starting to look ominous
alright willie, how do you want to be the next coach? You're pissing all over everything posted today, make a stand.
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Hence the name... 2009 Grad, Season ticket holder since then.
Until know I've pretty much just relied on everyone else to ask the questions I have. Enough people on here that post regularly my comments would usually be redundant.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42936.msg592727#msg592727 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42936.msg592727#msg592727)
This spot says 2005 on both.
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2009 grad, eh?
2005 Grad, Season Ticket Holder since 2005. Not a troll...
Don't buy it, Goose. Dude's a media guy
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Scoop
Was just teasing you. Trust me few on here think I am insider, but appreciated. I think something happens before bedtime tonight. I am not getting into Jammie's in case I want to go The Al and celebrate with my kids.
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Also, his e-mail (before he covered it) was
marquette.scoop@gmail.com
Please.
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I'm genuinely curious...are you sticking with your story?
There was no meeting at VCU tonight, btw, as I said.
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Heisenberg
If a fan, stay on course tonight....might be surprised.
You got us all worked up for nothing. No way that you know more than goodman
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Scoop
Was just teasing you. Trust me few on here think I am insider, but appreciated. I think something happens before bedtime tonight. I am not getting into Jammie's in case I want to go The Al and celebrate with my kids.
I'll go in my Jammie's if others will too
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I'll go in my Jammie's if others will too
That the kind of party you're into?
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I knew it would only be a matter of minutes before Eldon started hating...
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I knew it would only be a matter of minutes before Eldon started hating...
Practicing for my upcoming History Channel reality series: Troll Hunter
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That the kind of party you're into?
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I'm genuinely curious...are you sticking with your story?
There was no meeting at VCU tonight, btw, as I said.
Yes, I am sticking by my story.
As for the VCU meeting tonight, check back with me between now and Wednesday. If Shaka didn't meet with his team tonight I will offer you my apologies. And double check with your sources on VCU pressers that were already scheduled for this week. Again, if I'm truly wrong I will apologize, but my source is a person that works in the world of information.
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Really shooting down HARD the rumor of Smart to MU. Not buying any of it.
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In general, TV and radio yakkers and internet dorks have no clue how to get and cultivate sources and to accurately report source material.
Until Goodman or Katz or Hunt or a real journalist reports this, it's all noise.
Not that noise isn't fun.
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Avenue
You might be on to something.
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Yes, I am sticking by my story.
As for the VCU meeting tonight, check back with me between now and Wednesday. If Shaka didn't meet with his team tonight I will offer you my apologies. And double check with your sources on VCU pressers that were already scheduled for this week. Again, if I'm truly wrong I will apologize, but my source is a person that works in the world of information.
None of that gets canceled until five minutes after a coach announces he is leaving.
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Darn, I had started to buy in. Hope it's not going to be Wardle.
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In general, TV and radio yakkers and internet dorks have no clue how to get and cultivate sources and to accurately report source material.
Until Goodman or Katz or Hunt or a real journalist reports this, it's all noise.
Not that noise isn't fun.
corrected
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Goodman tweeted that BEFORE IWB said it was a done deal. IWB said he is the source.
Goodman has not followed up.
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Really shooting down HARD the rumor of Smart to MU. Not buying any of it.
Stranger is getting to be strangest.
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Anyone see if IWB's twitter was hijacked?
;D
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Anyone see if IWB's twitter was hijacked?
;D
Yup. It's in the South Indian Ocean as we speak
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Adam Klug @Adam_Klug 23m
Marquette has no President or Athletic Director, and may be investigated by the NCAA, but Shaka Smart's gonna take that job? #KeepDreaming
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 20m
@Adam_Klug Thats exactly my thought.
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Goodman tweeted that BEFORE IWB said it was a done deal. IWB said he is the source.
Goodman has not followed up.
He has followed up three times in the last 24 minutes.
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Adam Klug @Adam_Klug 23m
Marquette has no President or Athletic Director, and may be investigated by the NCAA, but Shaka Smart's gonna take that job? #KeepDreaming
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 20m
@Adam_Klug Thats exactly my thought.
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Soooo.....he really doesn't know anything then? Wth?
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Sir,
You will cease and desist from posting pictures in response to other posts on MUScoop as this practice was originated and is perpetrated by another poster with the user name of keefe and your use of this tatic is certain to cause consumer confusion...
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I thought our compliance officer said we weren't under investigation.....
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Adam Klug @Adam_Klug 23m
Marquette has no President or Athletic Director, and may be investigated by the NCAA, but Shaka Smart's gonna take that job? #KeepDreaming
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 20m
@Adam_Klug Thats exactly my thought.
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Umhhhh so why does this keep popping up?! And who the hell is Adam Klug?
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He has followed up three times in the last 24 minutes.
Not on Shaka, on other topics, yes
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In general, TV and radio yakkers and internet dorks have no clue how to get and cultivate sources and to accurately report source material.
Until Goodman or Katz or Hunt or a real journalist reports this, it's all noise.
Not that noise isn't fun.
Right. But you can't tell those folks until Shaka has a talk with his team. No one wants to find our through ESPN. Not saying you're wrong, but not saying IWB is either.
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Umhhhh so why does this keep popping up?! And who the hell is Adam Klug?
Producer of the Doug Gottlieb Show
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Not on Shaka, on other topics, yes
I have no idea what you are looking at, but he's tweeted about it three times in the last half hour. If you don't know how to use Twitter, I don't know what to tell you. If you don't count the Chamraz tweet, whatever.
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I'm genuinely curious...are you sticking with your story?
There was no meeting at VCU tonight, btw, as I said.
New flash for you bud. Until it was announced that Buzz was leaving out meeting was pretty damn quiet too. Stop acting like you are behind closed doors. NONE of us are proclaiming this is done we are questioning our sources and genuinely curious.
Just go back to your own board. If it happens it happens.
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I thought our compliance officer said we weren't under investigation.....
We are not nor do we expect to be.
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I have no idea what you are looking at, but he's tweeted about it three times in the last half hour. If you don't know how to use Twitter, I don't know what to tell you. If you don't count the Chamraz tweet, whatever.
Goodman's last three tweets. Shaka tweet that nothing is happening is 2 hours old.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 51m Kelvin Sampson a candidate to replace Dickey at Houston, source confirms to ESPN. http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=10667415 …
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 1h Luke Kennard is headed to Duke. My favorite player in the Class of 2015. Can do it all.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 2h Here's the update on Shaka Smart and Marquette for all those asking. Nothing done, nothing imminent - per multiple sources.
Here is the IWB tweets, they are all one hour old ... AFTER Goodman's last Shaka tweet:
Jim Ganzer @theIWB 1h @joshlepak I tweeted it this morning and updated my subscribers all day. Never backed down, told readers don't believe 5:00 rumors too,
Jim Ganzer @theIWB 1h People not understanding Shaka to Marquette: Big East, Top salary paying school for head & assts, #2 recruiting budget in nation. #mubb
Jim Ganzer @theIWB 1h @joshlepak I'm the source
Jim Ganzer @theIWB 1h Shaka Smart is the new coach at Marquette. #mubb Done Deal
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New flash for you bud. Until it was announced that Buzz was leaving out meeting was pretty damn quiet too. Stop acting like you are behind closed doors. NONE of us are proclaiming this is done we are questioning our sources and genuinely curious.
Just go back to your own board. If it happens it happens.
He's an MU fan to. You have no more right to this board than he does.
With no due respect since Buzz leaving you haven't been the classiest person may want to work on people skills.
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@Heisenberg -- make sure to click the "with replies" link to see any conversations he's having: https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/with_replies -- there's a little more there about MU & Shaka ... but not much.
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Producer of the Doug Gottlieb Show
If he produces Tool Time, he must know Tim Allen then.
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Shaka is getting house in order first and foremost.
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A few things... The clown who brought up the NCAA investigations read that garbage here. Radio people are lazy. Rather than dig into sources, they'll skim the message boards for anything they can find. The local guys in MKE do it all the time, which is why it's a good thing to show some discretion when posting.
Second, Goodman is getting all of his info on this secondhand. I'd take anything he writes with a grain of salt.
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New flash for you bud. Until it was announced that Buzz was leaving out meeting was pretty damn quiet too. Stop acting like you are behind closed doors. NONE of us are proclaiming this is done we are questioning our sources and genuinely curious.
Just go back to your own board. If it happens it happens.
He has made statements that I view as false. I think it is fair to question him on that. I spoke directly to a player about the meeting today and no such thing took place.
In regards to Buzz - the Marquette situation is an entirely different beast than VCU's. Apples to oranges.
No need to be condescending. I've been a registered user on this board longer than you and long before my "own board."
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He has made statements that I view as false. I think it is fair to question him on that. I spoke directly to a player about the meeting today and no such thing took place.
In regards to Buzz - the Marquette situation is an entirely different beast than VCU's. Apples to oranges.
No need to be condescending. I've been a registered user on this board longer than you and long before my "own board."
Well said. Keep your valuable contributions coming.
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He has made statements that I view as false. I think it is fair to question him on that. I spoke directly to a player about the meeting today and no such thing took place.
In regards to Buzz - the Marquette situation is an entirely different beast than VCU's. Apples to oranges.
No need to be condescending. I've been a registered user on this board longer than you and long before my "own board."
I thought they were fair questions. As with all things like this I reported what I was told. I thought (and still do) that it was worth sharing based on the source and my own judgment.
If my posts end up being wrong and I unintentionally contributed to some elaborate rumor spread nationally on multiple media channels and modes, then I'll apologize for being wrong.
Anyone can check my history on the board. It's not like I'm a troll. It looks like I have the same info as Goose, Keefe, and others. Time will tell. But I will say I'll be nothing short of stunned if this was all a giant, epic "misunderstanding."
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Jeffie Goodman just now on an ESPN chat:
"No one knows with 100 percent certainly whether Shaka wants you guys or not, but I'm being told he's leaning towards turning it down. One major issue is Marquette has an interim AD and president -- and coaches want to know they are working for someone who will stick by them and who hired them. Another is the TV package."
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Jeffie Goodman just now on an ESPN chat:
"No one knows with 100 percent certainly whether Shaka wants you guys or not, but I'm being told he's leaning towards turning it down. One major issue is Marquette has an interim AD and president -- and coaches want to know they are working for someone who will stick by them and who hired them. Another is the TV package."
Why wouldn't this potentially be a good thing? Wouldn't he have great say over the AD hire? I'm sure Strong and Rivers have reassured him about that.
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And now:
"Shaka isnt coming to Marquette...is he?"
"My gut? No, I don't think so."
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Why wouldn't this not be a potentially good thing? Wouldn't he have great say over the AD hire? I'm sure Strong and Rivers told him he will have a say.
My thoughts exactly. I get the feeling Goodman isn't in the know on this one. Surely is avoiding being committal one way or another.
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"With Shaka Smart out of the picture, who do you have taking over the Marquette job. Ben Howland or the field?"
Goodman: "Shaka is not completely out of the picture, but I don't think it'll happen."
"What's your best guess as to who will end up as Marquette's new coach? "
Goodman: "Just a gut - but I'm going with either Ben Howland, Mike Hopkins or Brian Wardle."
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Doesn't seem like Goodman knows much of anything.
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I'll believe Goodman over IWB, anyone on this board, any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
FWIW, Goodman said Marquette has no interest in Marshall.
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"With Shaka Smart out of the picture, who do you have taking over the Marquette job. Ben Howland or the field?"
Goodman: "Shaka is not completely out of the picture, but I don't think it'll happen."
"What's your best guess as to who will end up as Marquette's new coach? "
Goodman: "Just a gut - but I'm going with either Ben Howland, Mike Hopkins or Brian Wardle."
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Doesn't seem like Goodman knows much of anything.
Keep in mind Goodman is Buzz's mouth piece currently...sure that hasn't put him in a position to be a go to journalist when MU has something to tell.
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Certainly sounds like Shaka is talking
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I'll believe Goodman over IWB, anyone on this board, any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
No question, but the point is that he's avoiding even approaching a strong stance either way. He doesn't have sufficient information.
He made a point to demonstrate that he thinks it's a possibility, although maybe not a likely one. There's definitely something to what has come out over the past couple of days. And evidently he isn't convinced Shaka contacted assistant coaches and players last night with a definitive "I'm staying."
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I'll believe Goodman over IWB, anyone on this board, any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
FWIW, Goodman said Marquette has no interest in Marshall.
That's a mistake, IMO
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That's a mistake, IMO
Agreed, at least kick the tires.
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It is going to be very, very tough to sell alumni on Mike Hopkins (who would only be here two to three years until Boeheim retires) or Brian Wardle. We lose out on Howland and Shaka there will be thousands and thousands of empty seats at the BC next year..
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Not only is Goodman the mouthpiece for our former coach but his latest comment sounds like a rehash of how he explained said coach's departure....almost verbatim....whole thing sounds fishy to me....
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Not only is Goodman the mouthpiece for our former coach but his latest comment sounds like a rehash of how he explained said coach's departure....almost verbatim....whole thing sounds fishy to me....
He mentioned the TV deal as a bad thing. Which is weird.
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He mentioned the TV deal as a bad thing. Which is weird.
Our former coach said one reason for leaving was his unhappiness with TV deal....
Can our TV deal be worse than the deal that VCU/ A10 has?
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Our former coach said one reason for leaving was his unhappiness with TV deal....
Can our TV deal be worse than the deal that VCU/ A10 has?
I thought we got a good tv deal???
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Our former coach said one reason for leaving was his unhappiness with TV deal....
Can our TV deal be worse than the deal that VCU/ A10 has?
Ask yourself this. Have you ever turned on CBS sports network?
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He mentioned the TV deal as a bad thing. Which is weird.
What the hell difference would the TV deal make? If he's making $3 million, would he care if he's on local access? MKE the NCAA, make some noise every year or two and the recognition will come. TV deal stuff is nonsense...except for Buzz who's apparently desperate for attention and acceptance.
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Our former coach said one reason for leaving was his unhappiness with TV deal....
Can our TV deal be worse than the deal that VCU/ A10 has?
If Goodman is saying this, he is stating that having occasional games on ESPN is better than having every game on Fox Sports 1. His bias is showing, if you ask me.
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1) Goodman moved from CBS to ESPN last year. The vast mouse earred conspiracy includes trashing the BE and FS1 at any chance they get.
2) Who knows if Goodman isn't Shaka's mouthpiece too?
3) If not, Goodman is just throwing crap up like everyone else.
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What the hell difference would the TV deal make? If he's making $3 million, would he care if he's on local access? MKE the NCAA, make some noise every year or two and the recognition will come. TV deal stuff is nonsense...except for Buzz who's apparently desperate for attention and acceptance.
I think it's a huge deal in recruiting. Kids want to play on ESPN. They want their friends and family to be able to see them playing. Even though Marquette is getting a lot of cash from FS1 (and that money provides a lot of good things for the program -- including, hopefully, a high profile coach), kids want to play on ESPN.
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I thought we got a good tv deal???
The money is great. Buzz's complaint had to do with game start times being scheduled for Fox's convenience.
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The money is great. Buzz's complaint had to do with game start times being scheduled for Fox's convenience.
and ESPN didn't have the same start times? That's a cop-out by brent
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The money is great. Buzz's complaint had to do with game start times being scheduled for Fox's convenience.
That's funny. Isn't every sporting event scheduled for TV convenience?
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If Goodman is saying this, he is stating that having occasional games on ESPN is better than having every game on Fox Sports 1. His bias is showing, if you ask me.
VaTech was ESPN one time last year. ESPN2 zero times. ESPNU three times.
Yeah, that's way better than the Big East's setup.
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Start times were no different on ESPN, only difference is Fox will delay a start so us fans at home can see the entire game. So instead fo athe 8pm central start it would be 8:15.
Plus it was a trainwreck trying to find all the games on espn in prior years and if you did not have the sports package or cable did not offer MSG you were out of luck.
Every game for MU this year was on FS1, FOX or CBS sports network. If you get espn in your home you get those channels.
The only angle that might work from the TV deal perspective is all the bashing the league took from the talking heads at espn and the limited amount of highlights on espn. Get in the top 25 and you will get highlights on espn
The TV deal excuse is very poor
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Ask yourself this. Have you ever turned on CBS sports network?
VCU had 9 games on ESPN/2/U this year, and every game televised to some extent (NBC Sports, CBS Sports, CSN).
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2) Who knows if Goodman isn't Shaka's mouthpiece too?
He's not...and if he was he would be far more committed one way or another.
Bottom line, I think MU and Smart are talking and it's a back and forth affair. I think by the end of the day we'll know something...probably not an announcement but a leak(major) one way or the other.
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and ESPN didn't have the same start times? That's a cop-out by brent
It sounds better than; "they hurt my feelings".
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So, Buzz was out of here in a flash and took everything but the kitchen sink and the lightbulbs? Do we have to pay
him anything? Seems like he kind of gave up to me this year. One hell of a crazy business!
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"The TV deal excuse is very poor"
Which was my whole point in questioning what Goodman is saying...why would Smart say this when it's far better than anything his VCU team has from either a money or exposure perspective?
I call BS
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Ask yourself this. Have you ever turned on CBS sports network?
Only to watch a Marquette game.
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If Goodman is saying this, he is stating that having occasional games on ESPN is better than having every game on Fox Sports 1. His bias is showing, if you ask me.
1) Goodman moved from CBS to ESPN last year. The vast mouse earred conspiracy includes trashing the BE and FS1 at any chance they get.
Amen... and amen! Love you Homer & Jim M., but you have to find another employer as all my efforts are going into making FS1 a success just to grind on ESPN.
P.S. Any other radio station would also likely provide a better signal. ; )
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Every game for MU this year was on FS1, FOX or CBS sports network. If you get espn in your home you get those channels.
Unfortunately, not true. CBS Sports network is not included in my plan. I should probably pay the additional $15/month to get it, but haven't. But I can't blame anyone else for the fact that I'm (relatively) cheap.
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He's not...and if he was he would be far more committed one way or another.
Bottom line, I think MU and Smart are talking and it's a back and forth affair. I think by the end of the day we'll know something...probably not an announcement but a leak(major) one way or the other.
Not trying to rile up the herd, but this is what Jerry Meyer had been hearing. I remember yesterday he reported that the assistants at VCU believed that there was some back and forth negotiating going on. I mean, we all said we'd hear something Wednesday. It just sucks that there are days we have to get through to get there.
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Unfortunately, not true. CBS Sports network is not included in my plan. I should probably pay the additional $15/month to get it, but haven't. But I can't blame anyone else for the fact that I'm (relatively) cheap.
Not even offered by my cable company.