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Author Topic: IDF targets and kills food aid workers  (Read 9203 times)

NCMUFan

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #575 on: Today at 06:48:07 AM »
Our reluctance to supply Israel with arms may have something to do with not wanting to be a part of actions like this again (this was posted previously):

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

The ICC was widely expected to bring warcrimes, crimes against humanity, and possibly genocide charges against Netanyahu and their generals a couple weeks ago. As a result the US and Israel openly threatened the ICC with retaliation.

Maybe we didn't want to supply arms, because we could be directly implicated (and charged) in warcrimes if we gave them weapons that they then used in Rafah, knowing that the above transpired previously, and knowing the history of indiscriminate attacks in this conflict.
FWIW.
It appears neither the USA or Israel belong to the ICC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #576 on: Today at 08:16:08 AM »
This is not speaking to the political aims of Netanyahu, but just the potential military command operational strategy…found it a pretty interesting read regardless

https://x.com/mr_andrew_fox/status/1789362758024069399?s=46

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #577 on: Today at 08:34:26 AM »
This is not speaking to the political aims of Netanyahu, but just the potential military command operational strategy…found it a pretty interesting read regardless

https://x.com/mr_andrew_fox/status/1789362758024069399?s=46

Interesting, but he lost me here:
"All whilst shifting hundreds of thousands of civilians out of harm’s way and minimising innocent casualties."

There's plenty of evidence that the IDF has shifted civilians into harm's way and done little to minimize innocent casualties.
I'd also point out a gap in logic here. He wants to argue that the IDF is executing this brilliant military campaign that's achieving its strategic goals while not only minimizing civilian casualties, but going out of the way to protect civilians. And yet, but his own admission, the IDF and Israeli government won't say this is what they're doing. They saying quite the opposite, and at great cost to their support both domestically and internationally.
Why would they do that? He has no answer, expect to brush is aside as "err... that's politics" as if the political goals can be separated from the military goals.
I'm far from a military expect, so it's entirely possible he's got it right. But at the surface level, it seems a bit more like what he wishes Israel was doing than what Israel actually is doing.
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #578 on: Today at 08:46:33 AM »
Doc

Great post. You will get bashed for your views by the usual suspects, but thanks for posting.

It's nonsense.  Israel doesn't need our money or weapons to continue to blow up the Gaza strip.  They have plenty of money and bombs of their own.

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #579 on: Today at 09:18:37 AM »
It's nonsense.  Israel doesn't need our money or weapons to continue to blow up the Gaza strip.  They have plenty of money and bombs of their own.

We should annex the entire Middle East with Israel.  It's the right decision .  My 5 point plan is the only solution.  You and many others here are on the wrong side and your fake outrage over Palestinians isn't fooling anyone. 

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #580 on: Today at 09:20:47 AM »
We should annex the entire Middle East with Israel.  It's the right decision .  My 5 point plan is the only solution.  You and many others here are on the wrong side and your fake outrage over Palestinians isn't fooling anyone.

Yeah, well you're a dumb dumb poopy head.

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #581 on: Today at 09:25:21 AM »
Yeah, well you're a dumb dumb poopy head.

Were you outraged when Assad gassed his  own people is Syria?  Are you outraged at all about Boko Haram or the scumbags in Niger?  Are you outraged about the treatment of the Uygurs in China?  Darfur?  Rwanda? Sierra Leonne?  Did any of these things upset you or is it only Israel and the IDF?

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #582 on: Today at 10:23:10 AM »
Were you outraged when Assad gassed his  own people is Syria?  Are you outraged at all about Boko Haram or the scumbags in Niger?  Are you outraged about the treatment of the Uygurs in China?  Darfur?  Rwanda? Sierra Leonne?  Did any of these things upset you or is it only Israel and the IDF?

I think it’s terrible that human beings kill one another. Does outrage over one situation always need to be matched by another?
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #583 on: Today at 10:25:39 AM »
Yeah, well you're a dumb dumb poopy head.

Just what a 3 year old having a temper tantrum would say.

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #584 on: Today at 10:42:32 AM »
FWIW.
It appears neither the USA or Israel belong to the ICC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court

Russia does not belong to the ICC either, but at the behest of largely the USA, they were charged with war crimes and arrest warrants issued for Putin and his generals. This was done on the legal argument that the ICC had jurisdiction, because Ukraine joined the ICC.

The rest of the world is saying the ICC has jurisdiction here on the same grounds, because the PLO and Palestine joined the ICC. In an embarrassing move, the USA and Israel are now saying the same legal argument they successfully made against Russia, is invalid.

Even more embarrassing when the USA and Israel threaten the ICC with retaliation if they do their job.

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #585 on: Today at 11:40:50 AM »
Fake news: Everyone agreed that the worm died after eating part of JR's brain.

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #586 on: Today at 01:10:23 PM »
Were you outraged when Assad gassed his  own people is Syria?  Are you outraged at all about Boko Haram or the scumbags in Niger?  Are you outraged about the treatment of the Uygurs in China?  Darfur?  Rwanda? Sierra Leonne?  Did any of these things upset you or is it only Israel and the IDF?

Pointing out other ethnic cleansing and atrocities doesn’t make the ongoing Gaza one any more acceptable. Is your point that since those haven’t been brought up here that we aren’t allowed to be outraged by it?

Pointing out those other disgusting humanitarian disasters suggests you are equating them to the current situation, but that this one’s ok.

 

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