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Really? Blue was a better college player in his 3 years, than was Gardner through 3 years..or even 4?
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
2pm EST, at his high school in FL.
Corey just told me that it is between MU and Cal. Would be suprised if it was Gtown.
Hmm choosing between Georgetown, Marquette, and Cal.That sounds familiar:http://youtu.be/RpnCkBZVI6o?t=26sHopefully the kid makes the right decision like the one in the commercial
Really? Blue was a better college player in his 3 years, than was Gardner through 3 years..or even 4? Blue was awful as a freshman. Not much better as a sophomore. Improved mightily as a junior - yet side by side Junior year to Junior year - I'm hard pressed to say Vander Blue was a better player. Vander had some big moments as a junior for sure, yet given that he was so bad as a freshman/sophomore - it made his junior year seem better than it really was. As has been pointed out numerous times - his junior year was really no better than was Todd Mayo's last year. Here's Gardner and Blue side by side as Juniors:http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=davante-gardner&davante-gardner=2012-2013&i=1&p1=vander-blue
Again with the "Vander is awful" crap? Ugh.We saw the definition of awful guards last season. Vander? He made a difference defensively and had some moments offensively his first two years.He was poor offensively most of his freshman year, but that is pretty common. To say he didn't get much better as a sophomore is wrong. He improved his shooting percentages across the board to go along with 4.5 rebounds, more than a steal a game and usually defending the opponent's best perimeter player. He played 26 minutes per game for a Sweet 16 team - and thank goodness because your boy Mayo was a selfish jerk.A whole lot of teams would take Blue's sophomore year. And we know what Vander did as a junior - he worked hard to become a much better offensive player on a team that had numerous options and he carried us to our biggest wins.I don't know why you have such a "hate woody" (as willie would say) for Vander. His body of work for us was good. Not great, but good. A three-year starter on a team that went S16-S16-E8 and a player who worked hard to get better every year.We should be lucky enough to have lots of "awful" players like Vander Blue.BTW, unlike you, who rants against Blue constantly, this was my first strong defense of Vander. And I won't repeat it 500 times because that's not how I roll. You go ahead and keep calling him "awful," though.
He said he was "awful" as a freshman. And he was. Put me in the camp that Gardner was a better player than Vander. And I say that while thanking Blue for his heroic shots vs. St. John's and Davidson (games in which he played poorly) and his epic game against Butler.
Until the announcement, I am planning to hold my breath while hanging by my fingernails from a 27th-story window.
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.
ZOMG! Today is 9/5!
Gardner was an elite caliber offensive player at the college level. Vander Blue was not an elite defender, nor an elite offensive player at any point in his career. Finding an elite offensive player at this level is a hell of a lot harder than finding a really good defender. Yes, Blue was a better defender. Vander made great strides his Junior year and turned into a very good player. I never said Vander was an awful player - other than his freshman year - he was given AMPLE opportunity to play - 20 minutes a game - and his production was poor. And his defense as a freshman? Okay, average maybe? Certainly not Jerel McNeal good. Here's Gardner and Blue as freshman. http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=davante-gardner&davante-gardner=2010-2011&i=1&p1=vander-blue&vander-blue=2010-2011And let's hope today is a good day for MU...come on down Hannif!