COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[Coleman]

Key milestone to watch for: once we are under a 7 day average of 20,000 daily cases, it will be the lowest since the initial surge in March-April 2020. We are currently at 24,000.

[pbiflyer]

Hmmm, the US was down to about 35th and falling in Bloomberg’s ranking of how well countries reacted to the pandemic in November/December, and now it’s 13th.

I wonder what changed to make such a drastic improvement…

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-resilience-ranking/

[Jockey]

Hmmm, the US was down to about 35th and falling in Bloomberg’s ranking of how well countries reacted to the pandemic in November/December, and now it’s 13th.

I wonder what changed to make such a drastic improvement…

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-resilience-ranking/

Aah..., that’s a tough one, pbi.

[4everwarriors]

Yeah, its called da vaccine, aina?

[Pakuni]

Yeah, its called da vaccine, aina?

Psst ... we're not the only country with a vaccine.

[Coleman]

Look, I'm not a trump guy by any stretch but its not as simple as trump bad, biden good.

Vaccines are the reason we are crushing this thing. Some of the credit for the development should go to the previous administration, just like the credit for the rollout success should go to Biden.

Trump bungled the initial response terribly. But he did assist with the vaccine development.

[Jockey]

Look, I'm not a trump guy by any stretch but its not as simple as trump bad, biden good.

Vaccines are the reason we are crushing this thing. Some of the credit for the development should go to the previous administration, just like the credit for the rollout success should go to Biden.

Trump bungled the initial response terribly. But he did assist with the vaccine development.

How?

Bush, and Obama to a lesser extent, did the heavy lifting on pandemic awareness and vaccine creation.

[Jockey]

Covid rates for unvaccinated are about as bad as January.

So it’s not really surprising that this foray into political social engineering by Trump and the GOP is now coming to its natural fruition. The Washington Post has some sobering news for those who remain unvaccinated against COVID-19: in many states, the pandemic is showing itself to be as deadly as it ever was.

The country’s declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically optimistic perspective for half of the nation — the half that is still not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to account for that — and found that in some places, the virus continues to rage among those who haven’t received a shot.

The Post’s analysis, authored by Dan Keating and Leslie Shapiro, is fairly straightforward, using CDC data and adjusting for the number of those vaccinated, and controlling for the possibility of infections even among those who received their doses. The results as predictable as they are stark.

Among the unvaccinated in Washington state, for example, the rate for hospitalization and deaths is the same as it was in January, the most virulent month of the COVID-19 pandemic. The national death rate for unvaccinated folks “is roughly the same as it was two months ago and is barely inching down,” while “The adjusted hospitalization rate is as high as it was three months ago.” The case rate is still declining, which makes sense since (in accordance with the research demonstrating a vast reduction in transmission from those who’ve received the vaccine), more people being vaccinated equates to fewer people spreading the virus.

For those who haven’t received the vaccine, however, COVID-19 is spreading just as fast as it ever was. The Post analyzed data from Maine, Colorado, Michigan and Washington state; all had “adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate.”  Some states, Minnesota, Oregon and Pennsylvania are “slightly lower.”  Some spikes in case rates among the unvaccinated are attributable to variants of the virus.


Coleman, this is the only credit trump deserves - He’s still killing people.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Covid rates for unvaccinated are about as bad as January.

So it’s not really surprising that this foray into political social engineering by Trump and the GOP is now coming to its natural fruition. The Washington Post has some sobering news for those who remain unvaccinated against COVID-19: in many states, the pandemic is showing itself to be as deadly as it ever was.

The country’s declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically optimistic perspective for half of the nation — the half that is still not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to account for that — and found that in some places, the virus continues to rage among those who haven’t received a shot.

The Post’s analysis, authored by Dan Keating and Leslie Shapiro, is fairly straightforward, using CDC data and adjusting for the number of those vaccinated, and controlling for the possibility of infections even among those who received their doses. The results as predictable as they are stark.

Among the unvaccinated in Washington state, for example, the rate for hospitalization and deaths is the same as it was in January, the most virulent month of the COVID-19 pandemic. The national death rate for unvaccinated folks “is roughly the same as it was two months ago and is barely inching down,” while “The adjusted hospitalization rate is as high as it was three months ago.” The case rate is still declining, which makes sense since (in accordance with the research demonstrating a vast reduction in transmission from those who’ve received the vaccine), more people being vaccinated equates to fewer people spreading the virus.

For those who haven’t received the vaccine, however, COVID-19 is spreading just as fast as it ever was. The Post analyzed data from Maine, Colorado, Michigan and Washington state; all had “adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate.”  Some states, Minnesota, Oregon and Pennsylvania are “slightly lower.”  Some spikes in case rates among the unvaccinated are attributable to variants of the virus.


Coleman, this is the only credit trump deserves - He’s still killing people.

Delusional.

[tower912]

Maybe the last line.    The rest is data based.   

[Jockey]

Delusional.

So you think telling people to gather and to not wear masks saved lives and solved the Covid crisis?

Delusional.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

So you think telling people to gather and to not wear masks saved lives and solved the Covid crisis?

Delusional.

That's a lot of credit to give to Fauci.

[Jockey]

That's a lot of credit to give to Fauci.

I never even mentioned Fauci.  Or for that matter, said that Covid was solved.

So, I don’t get what you are saying.

[JWags85]

Cruising into the long weekend with another lock to the COVID thread due to unabashed partisan bickering and hackery 

[4everwarriors]

Jockster, I vote policy, not personality. This country in the past 4 months has turned into a clusterfook because of the limp dick in office. The Mexican border is a mess and the Middle East is a powder keg. While hate has no home here, anti-semitism is rampant in our cities and not 1 democratic is appalled.
You wouldn't give Trump credit if he saved you from choking on your own vomit, hey?

[rocket surgeon]

I never even mentioned Fauci.  Or for that matter, said that Covid was solved.

So, I don’t get what you are saying.

So you think telling people to gather and to not wear masks saved lives and solved the Covid crisis?

[MU82]

Jockster, I vote policy, not personality. This country in the past 4 months has turned into a clusterfook because of the limp dick in office. The Mexican border is a mess and the Middle East is a powder keg. While hate has no home here, anti-semitism is rampant in our cities and not 1 democratic is appalled.
You wouldn't give Trump credit if he saved you from choking on your own vomit, hey?

Your hero's policies resulted in the deaths of 600K+ Americans, millions losing their jobs and 100,000+ businesses closing forever. And that's just his pandemic policies. Racism was at its worst in 50 years, America lost its standing as a world leader, the administration was overrun with a revolving door of inept and corrupt dirtbags, nepotism was rampant, health care wasn't reformed, promised infrastructure improvements never happened, Mexico didn't pay one penny toward the useless (and mostly unbuilt) wall, and the president of the United States stood on a world stage and said he believed the Russian dictator rather than the very intelligence people he had appointed. In a 2-year span, your hero managed to lose the House of Representatives, the White House and the Senate for his party. And the cherry on top was his traitorous campaign to subvert democracy.

Thank goodness America is being led back to a position of strength, economic power and worldwide respect, not to mention common decency.

You wouldn't criticize your hero if he made you choke on his vomit while you were frenchin' him, nu?

[4everwarriors]

Boychik, let's talk about the Mid East and anti-semitism, or isn't American's only democratic ally in that part of the world important to you, hey?

[🏀]

Jockster, I vote policy, not personality. This country in the past 4 months has turned into a clusterfook because of the limp dick in office. The Mexican border is a mess and the Middle East is a powder keg. While hate has no home here, anti-semitism is rampant in our cities and not 1 democratic is appalled.
You wouldn't give Trump credit if he saved you from choking on your own vomit, hey?

Man, you would’ve thought Trump would’ve got elected or even given Biden a run in the election.

[naginiF]

Jockster, I vote policy, not personality. This country in the past 4 months has turned into a clusterfook because of the limp dick in office. The Mexican border is a mess and the Middle East is a powder keg. While hate has no home here, anti-semitism is rampant in our cities and not 1 democratic is appalled.
You wouldn't give Trump credit if he saved you from choking on your own vomit, hey?

Such a confusing time we live in, the party without white nationalists/christian nationalists/neo nazi's and who openly supports every minority and marginalized group are now the bad guys because they haven't met the arbitrary level of outrage prescribed by right wing media.

[Galway Eagle]

Boychik, let's talk about the Mid East and anti-semitism, or isn't American's only democratic ally in that part of the world important to you, hey?

I find it somewhat ironic that you're posting about anti semitism in the same post about supporting Israel. That's basically on par with saying racism is up here in the states but go South Africa during apartheid or saying anti semetism is up here but support the UK during the Northern Ireland troubles.

[Pakuni]

Jockster, I vote policy, not personality. This country in the past 4 months has turned into a clusterfook because of the limp dick in office. The Mexican border is a mess and the Middle East is a powder keg. While hate has no home here, anti-semitism is rampant in our cities and not 1 democratic is appalled.
You wouldn't give Trump credit if he saved you from choking on your own vomit, hey?

It's as if you don't even try to be remotely credible or honest.

President Biden
@POTUS
May 24
The recent attacks on the Jewish community are despicable, and they must stop. I condemn this hateful behavior at home and abroad — it’s up to all of us to give hate no safe harbor.

Ilhan Omar
May 26
@IlhanMN
The rise in antisemitic attacks at home and abroad is appalling.
We must be clear and unequivocal: antisemitism is unacceptable and has no place in any movement.
Fighting bigotry of any kind means fighting bigotry of every kind.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
May 21
We will never, ever tolerate antisemitism here in NY or anywhere in the world.
The recent surge in attacks is horrifying. We stand with our Jewish communities in condemning this violence.

Ayanna Pressley
May 22
@AyannaPressley
I strongly condemn the rise in anti-Semitism and islamophobia we’re seeing across the country.
Let me say it again: our freedom and our destinies are tied.
The struggle for liberation and justice requires all of us to reject hate and division in any form.

Cori Bush
@CoriBush
May 22
The work of dismantling antisemitism, anti-Blackness, Islamophobia, anti-Palestinian racism, and every other form of hate is OUR work.
We will ONLY achieve collective liberation by leading with radical love. There is no room for hate of any kind in our movements for justice.

I can add many more if you like, bur seeing as this is more than one, we're probably good, right?

[JWags85]

That statement from Omar is rich given her history.

That being said, im pretty sure people have complained Biden has been too pro-Israel. My Jewish friends are far more upset by public sentiment than they are by political voices which have been fine

[MU82]

Boychik, let's talk about the Mid East and anti-semitism, or isn't American's only democratic ally in that part of the world important to you, hey?

C'mon smoe ... anti-Semites are "very fine people," too. Even if they are chanting, "Blood and soil!" and "Jews will not replace us!" as they march around Charlottesville carrying torches. Very fine people, nu?

All part of a long history of anti-Semitism from your hero, which is amazing given that he let his daughter marry a Jew.

Biden, meanwhile, has repeatedly and strongly condemned anti-Semitism.

[Pakuni]

That statement from Omar is rich given her history.

That being said, im pretty sure people have complained Biden has been too pro-Israel. My Jewish friends are far more upset by public sentiment than they are by political voices which have been fine

Anti-Istael and anti-Semitic are not synonymous.