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Author Topic: Twitter 3.0  (Read 31702 times)

tower912

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #150 on: November 06, 2022, 11:45:35 AM »
Nope. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #151 on: November 06, 2022, 11:47:56 AM »
Wouldn't be the first time or the last (like Netfilx ads on ESPN). If it's a net positive for GM (which it may or may not be), they will do it.

Yup.

If the ROI for GM indicates it is worth it to advertise on Twitter, they will do it.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #152 on: November 06, 2022, 11:49:25 AM »
GM views Tesla as a rival.  Musk owns Tesla.  Giving advertising dollars to Twitter is giving dollars to the owner of a competitor.

But if they think the ads will do more good than they cost, why wouldn’t they?
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #153 on: November 06, 2022, 11:52:54 AM »
Perhaps GM WILL decide the benefit outweighs the cost.     Ultimately, not my problem.     I can certainly see the reasoning from both sides.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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« Reply #154 on: November 06, 2022, 12:20:08 PM »
Perhaps GM WILL decide the benefit outweighs the cost.     Ultimately, not my problem.     I can certainly see the reasoning from both sides.   
The reasoning has nothing to do with Musk’s ownership of Tesla. It has everything to do with the uncertainty around the continued efficacy of twitter as an ad platform.

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« Reply #155 on: November 06, 2022, 12:30:32 PM »
Is your argument that the two are not related?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #156 on: November 06, 2022, 12:33:10 PM »
Is your argument that the two are not related?
Yes

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #157 on: November 06, 2022, 08:21:36 PM »
I practice bird law

Sir, this is a Paddy's.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #158 on: November 06, 2022, 08:24:21 PM »
It’s very funny because that’s *exactly * what I’d want to hear if I were directing ad spend. Overt threats.

He might be good at running a tech/mfg company, but he’s really bad at running a social media company. I don’t think he’s playing chess, I think he’s just out of his depth. This one takes skills he just doesn’t have. Or maybe his strengths of essentially forcing his vision of reality to come to pass by sheer force of will, charisma, and pressure of capital are not applicable to a world where brand managers are making decisions based on very different criteria.

An engineer being compelled to design a part in house for spacex for $5k that could be acquired externally for $120k is something he’s good at making happen. Threatening to go thermonuclear and sic legions of deranged sycophants on consumer packedged goods companies is not going to make PG increase its spend.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #159 on: November 06, 2022, 08:26:04 PM »
Elon getting so mad at people changing their name and avi to match his is endlessly amusing.

Dude so badly wants to be cool.

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« Reply #160 on: November 06, 2022, 08:28:50 PM »
Twitter is not a subsidiary of Tesla
If GM makes $$ by advertising on Twitter, why shouldn't they?

Because sometimes watching your competitor light money on fire is funny, and just because you can make a couple of short term bucks doesn't mean the long term effects are worth it.

Winning a battle vs winning a war.

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« Reply #161 on: November 06, 2022, 08:31:56 PM »
Elon getting so mad at people changing their name and avi to match his is endlessly amusing.

Dude so badly wants to be cool.
Apologies if this was posted already

https://www.theonion.com/please-like-me-1848674003
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« Reply #162 on: November 06, 2022, 08:46:08 PM »
Free speech is a funny thing.

Even those of us who proport to believe in it fully (I include myself), in reality, have limits. Then we all worry about everyone else’s limits and defend our own.

Musk's free speech limit is apparently when people make fun of him.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #163 on: November 06, 2022, 09:10:15 PM »
Elon: "I'm gonna buy Twitter!"

Elon: "I'm not gonna buy Twitter!"

Elon: "I'm gonna buy Twitter!"

Elon: "Verification is $20!"

Elon: "Verification is $8!"

Elon: "It will start in time for the election!"

Elon: "No, it won't!"

Elon: "You're fired!"

Elon: "Please come back!"

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #164 on: November 07, 2022, 06:49:12 AM »
Elon: "I'm gonna buy Twitter!"

Elon: "I'm not gonna buy Twitter!"

Elon: "I'm gonna buy Twitter!"

Elon: "Verification is $20!"

Elon: "Verification is $8!"

Elon: "It will start in time for the election!"

Elon: "No, it won't!"

Elon: "You're fired!"

Elon: "Please come back!"

That's outstanding, pbi.

Bloomberg reported that Twitter is reaching out to dozens of employees who lost their jobs and asking them to return. Some of those who are being asked to come back were "laid off by mistake," while others "were let go before management realized that their work and experience may be necessary to build the new features Musk envisions." The NYT also suggested that Twitter would delay its $8/month model - for blue check verification marks, less ads, the ability to post longer videos and priority ranking for quality content - until after the midterm elections.

Whether one loves Musk, hates him or is indifferent to him, one must acknowledge that he's been absolutely all over the place with the twatter since first announcing his interest in buying it. If one didn't know he's had huge success with Tesla and a couple other businesses, one would think he was totally clueless. He obviously never wanted Twitter, and it's kinda made him lose his mind.
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #165 on: November 07, 2022, 02:15:46 PM »
Hey, remember all the way back to November 2nd when Musk said, "Twitter needs to become by far the most accurate source of information about the world. That's our mission."?

Yeah, looks like he didn't last a week:
Twitter removes misinformation policies
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3723094-twitter-removes-misinformation-policies/
"But the Twitter Rules do not include some of the policies the platform had in place before Musk took over the company as part of his $44 billion acquisition, including rules to mitigate misinformation about COVID-19 or crisis misinformation about areas in conflict, such as Ukraine.

The rules do still keep in place Twitter’s policy on Civic Integrity, which states that users may not use Twitter’s services “for the purpose of manipulating or interfering in election of other civic processes.”

In a blog post from August, the company laid out additional rules in place ahead of the midterm elections, including labeling “misleading information” and directing users to information about voting with “prebunks.”

Those rules did not appear to be included in the rules published on Monday."

Just baffling why advertisers are fleeing, hey Musk?
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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #166 on: November 07, 2022, 04:09:18 PM »
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #167 on: November 07, 2022, 04:23:06 PM »
The Onion has been begging to be Twitter banned today.

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1589657164775391234?s=20&t=y7DK8DZrBhDC_63yUzM8Mw

Whatever they said it's "not available" anymore.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #168 on: November 07, 2022, 04:28:19 PM »

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #169 on: November 07, 2022, 04:32:27 PM »
Link is working for me.
Here's the story:

https://www.theonion.com/please-like-me-1848674003?utm_campaign=TheOnion&utm_content=1667837329&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter

Weird that the link was broken for me. Shrug.

Yeah I saw that story yesterday I think. The Onion, as usual, is quality stuff.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #170 on: November 07, 2022, 04:37:26 PM »
Solid thread from another huge player in this space, Chris Sacca:

https://twitter.com/sacca/status/1589732881232203776?s=46&t=b1S-8jF74NtCIwCyFNURnQ

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #171 on: November 07, 2022, 05:04:08 PM »
Solid thread from another huge player in this space, Chris Sacca:

https://twitter.com/sacca/status/1589732881232203776?s=46&t=b1S-8jF74NtCIwCyFNURnQ
Scott Galloway has been making this point as well for the last year. There is no one to tell Elon no. His board is full of sycophants. Whether his inner circle all became sycophants because that was the way to Elon's heart, or Elon placed them there because they were already sycophants doesn't really matter, but with no guardrails he has embraced his inner 12-year-old child pretty boy.
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« Reply #172 on: November 07, 2022, 05:11:07 PM »
Solid thread from another huge player in this space, Chris Sacca:

https://twitter.com/sacca/status/1589732881232203776?s=46&t=b1S-8jF74NtCIwCyFNURnQ

Ive always thought Sacca was kind of a pompous tool.  His appearances on Shark Tank were especially lame.  But this was fantastic, and very well put.  And refreshing, cause as his later point highlight, so much of this debate has been taken on by pie eyed Elon fanboys vs ardent Musk haters.  Nice to have a nuanced opinion with experience on both a business and personal level.

Scott Galloway has been making this point as well for the last year. There is no one to tell Elon no. His board is full of sycophants. Whether his inner circle all became sycophants because that was the way to Elon's heart, or Elon placed them there because they were already sycophants doesn't really matter, but with no guardrails he has embraced his inner 12-year-old child pretty boy.

Because like 90% of the older set of new tech titans, that was the formative age when they were nerdy outcasts creating the skillset which would make them wealthy and powerful, but very much black sheep weirdos at the time.  Hard to later shake that without balance and therapy, and most get neither because they are wealthy and exalted.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #173 on: November 07, 2022, 05:12:08 PM »
Solid thread from another huge player in this space, Chris Sacca:

https://twitter.com/sacca/status/1589732881232203776?s=46&t=b1S-8jF74NtCIwCyFNURnQ

Vastly different circumstances and consequences, obviously, but much the same could have been written about Putin and his invasion of Ukraine.

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Re: Twitter 3.0
« Reply #174 on: November 07, 2022, 05:41:50 PM »
Vastly different circumstances and consequences, obviously, but much the same could have been written about Putin and his invasion of Ukraine.
That's coming awfully close to Godwin's law.

Never heard anyone say Putin's a nice guy, but he needs some "no" men around him.