Wilson drops MU from list

[milkbone]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/35104359.html

[OneMadWarrior]

I win

[The Man in Gold]

Or is it the ultimate bluff to so that his announcement is a real surprise.

[MUFanInGreenBay]

No big deal. He was scared of having to compete for minutes with Maymon and Williams. According to our MUScoop poster GYMBAR, Wilson isn't that good anyways.

[mu_hilltopper]

Treutelaar said Marquette informed Wilson on Oct. 28 that they were no longer offering a scholarship. But two weeks later, Wilson said, the school contacted his father - James "Peanut" Wilson, who played on UW-Whitewater's 1984 NCAA Division III championship team - and said their offer was back on the table.

"That didn't make sense. I didn't really like that," Wilson said. "I told my father to tell them I didn't like them playing head games with me, and I told them they were off my list."

Ummm .. what the heck was going on there.  I guess that's not a surprise, as it follows what we had heard, but I had always hoped what we'd heard was wrong.  

[ChicosBailBonds]

Treutelaar said Marquette informed Wilson on Oct. 28 that they were no longer offering a scholarship. But two weeks later, Wilson said, the school contacted his father - James "Peanut" Wilson, who played on UW-Whitewater's 1984 NCAA Division III championship team - and said their offer was back on the table.

"That didn't make sense. I didn't really like that," Wilson said. "I told my father to tell them I didn't like them playing head games with me, and I told them they were off my list."

Ummm .. what the heck was going on there.  I guess that's not a surprise, as it follows what we had heard, but I had always hoped what we'd heard was wrong.  

Strange way to recruit.

[Wareagle]

Treutelaar said Marquette informed Wilson on Oct. 28 that they were no longer offering a scholarship. But two weeks later, Wilson said, the school contacted his father - James "Peanut" Wilson, who played on UW-Whitewater's 1984 NCAA Division III championship team - and said their offer was back on the table.

"That didn't make sense. I didn't really like that," Wilson said. "I told my father to tell them I didn't like them playing head games with me, and I told them they were off my list."

Ummm .. what the heck was going on there.  I guess that's not a surprise, as it follows what we had heard, but I had always hoped what we'd heard was wrong.  

This is pure conjecture, but maybe the scholarship withdrawal was a signal for other recruits concerned about a race for that scholarship that he/they didn't have to worry about Jamil taking it.  Then, maybe that recruit(s) decides to go elsewhere, and Wilson got the offer back... or it didn't happen that way at all.

[nola03]

Ummm .. what the heck was going on there.  I guess that's not a surprise, as it follows what we had heard, but I had always hoped what we'd heard was wrong.  

A confusing finish to a recruitment that looked all set to be MU prior to Crean's departure. The good news is that this latest tidbit doesn't leave us hanging at all since Buzz has recruited the greatest class to MU in 15 years.

[4everwarriors]

Seems like Kool Aid Perry got in his ear.

[MarkMiller]

Seems like Kool Aid Perry got in his ear.

Not Kool Aid Perry, but something along those lines. Time to move on for all involved.

[MUBasketball]

Strange way to recruit.

Another jab at Buzz from Chicos.

IWB and Mark know what's going on, and says that is not the way it happened.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Another jab at Buzz from Chicos.

IWB knows what's going on, and says that is not the way it happened.

A jab?  I don't think so.  What jabs am I taking at Buzz?  Is this going to be a situation that we're never allowed to question a substitution, etc or it's a jab at Buzz?  I hope that's not the case.

It just sounded like a strange way to recruit.  I'm sure IWB does know what's going on and I'm sure over on that board he had a winking icon, perhaps he was even out of town.  What's unfortunate is that whatever the "real story" is, the one that's out there in the newspaper is the one that Jamil Wilson just put out there....whether it's accurate or not it's the one that's in the ether.


At the very least, Jamil Wilson must feel that's how it went down....right?  Otherwise, why would he say it?

[MUBasketball]

Oh, sorry Chicos. I thought I picked up heavy sarcasm with your initial comment.

OK c'mon, that was a Scout jab, that much I know!

Regardless, glad this whole thing is over with, from MU's perspective anyway. I wanted Wilson, and am disappointed things worked out this way, but if he's not commited to MU, so be it.

[ecompt]

Best of luck. If he continues to slide the way he has, he won't be overwhelming for Izzo either, though he won't be facing the same athletes at the Little 10 that he would have faced in the BE.

[🏀]

At the very least, Jamil Wilson must feel that's how it went down....right?  Otherwise, why would he say it?

I could see him saying something to those lines to make himself look better.

[Wareagle]

Wilson's recruitment has been so wacky that at this point I am inclined to give Buzz the benefit of the doubt.

[JSwarriors08]

Wilson's recruitment has been so wacky that at this point I am inclined to give Buzz the benefit of the doubt.

+1

[avid1010]

Plain and simple, I don't think Buzz was sold on this kid, and I think Buzz has proven he knows a thing or two about recruiting be it at MU or his prior jobs.

[StillAWarrior]

Wilson's recruitment has been so wacky that at this point I am inclined to give Buzz the benefit of the doubt.

None of us know what happened for sure, but what we all do know is that a few weeks ago it was reported that MU wasn't recruiting Wilson any longer.  Then after a short time, we started hearing rumors (confirmed by Mark Miller) that MU was recruiting him again.  At the time I thought it was strange, and I think a lot of the posters thought the off again, on again approach was a bit strange.

But I think what we heard all along is consistent with what Wilson said:  Marquette said they weren't recruiting him, and then they were recruiting him again.  The only additional information that Wilson put out there in this article is that the approach turned him off.  I don't think this is an issue of giving Buzz the benefit of the doubt, because I don't think Wilson is saying anything different than what we all heard.

[ATWizJr]

Gymbar - you are strangely silent.  S'up with all this?

[ATWizJr]

and by the way, Jamil. au revoir and don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out.

[Marquette_g]

From Today's JSOnline...

And Wilson is likely to keep playing for some time after announcing his college choice on March 8 - his mother's birthday. He said he's down to three schools now after doing a little dance with Marquette University that ended last week.

Treutelaar said Marquette informed Wilson on Oct. 28 that they were no longer offering a scholarship. But two weeks later, Wilson said, the school contacted his father - James "Peanut" Wilson, who played on UW-Whitewater's 1984 NCAA Division III championship team - and said their offer was back on the table.

"That didn't make sense. I didn't really like that," Wilson said. "I told my father to tell them I didn't like them playing head games with me, and I told them they were off my list."

So Wilson will consider Michigan State, Oregon and Texas until decision day. But mostly, he'll be thinking about his senior season.

[MU B2002]

I am a little confused on this one...  Aren't we out of scholarships anyway? Or is the consensous, amongst informed people who pretend to know, that we were trying to get one more to make up for someone leaving/not making grades?

[THEGYMBAR]

ATWiz---Why would you take pleasure in possibly losing a top recruit? I will believe Wilson goes elsewhere when he goes elsewhere. Playing close to home means something to him.

I know understand why MU ball is eld to the standard that is by some fans. The unprofessional manner hire was conducted and "fans" happy we lose a recruit. Sad reflection on the proram in my opinion.


Back in the day---everday true fan knew who the recruits were and were disappointed when they got away.

[muwarrior87]

ATWiz---Why would you take pleasure in possibly losing a top recruit? I will believe Wilson goes elsewhere when he goes elsewhere. Playing close to home means something to him.

I know understand why MU ball is eld to the standard that is by some fans. The unprofessional manner hire was conducted and "fans" happy we lose a recruit. Sad reflection on the proram in my opinion.


Back in the day---everday true fan knew who the recruits were and were disappointed when they got away.

And I know Cadougan is a stud, Maymon is a stud, Williams has an extremely high ceiling, and Roseboro is a late bloomer with size and a decent shot.  Buycks also gives us more experience in the back court next year as we lose the 3 seniors.  Where would Wilson fit in? He doesn't, and that's why many people don't see this as a huge loss. It's always nice to land a kid like him but he seems to have peaked early and may not progress as much as Williams can.  I'll eat my words if he explodes wherever he goes and one of our recruits doesn't pan out as much as we hope for but I doubt that will be the case.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

ATWiz---Why would you take pleasure in possibly losing a top recruit? I will believe Wilson goes elsewhere when he goes elsewhere. Playing close to home means something to him.

I know understand why MU ball is eld to the standard that is by some fans. The unprofessional manner hire was conducted and "fans" happy we lose a recruit. Sad reflection on the proram in my opinion.


Back in the day---everday true fan knew who the recruits were and were disappointed when they got away.

Weak post.

You got called out.

Instead of saying you were wrong about Wilson, you make it seem like that anybody who doesn't agree with you isn't a good fan.

Weak.

[The Lens]

GYM, maybe you're a teacher at Horlick and you've seen a great side of Jamil.  Who knows?  But a few respected, successful HS coaches who I have talked to say they would take Maymon every day of the week and that Jamil never plays to his ability.  They have serious reservations about him.  Now if EW & JM weren't in the fold, sure I would role the dice but we have 2 BETTER players are essentially the same position. 

[Pakuni]

But I think what we heard all along is consistent with what Wilson said:  Marquette said they weren't recruiting him, and then they were recruiting him again.  The only additional information that Wilson put out there in this article is that the approach turned him off.  I don't think this is an issue of giving Buzz the benefit of the doubt, because I don't think Wilson is saying anything different than what we all heard.

Take it for what it's worth, but there are conflicting accounts out there as to whether Marquette ever actually resumed recruiting Wilson after telling him he was out of their plans.
So perhaps we don't know what we think we know.

[THEGYMBAR]

2002MUalum---I will say I was wrong when I am wrong. Not afraid to admit that. I am disappointed that fans would be happy not getting a recruit. You can never have too many kids that can play. I believe there is large number of fans that do not have the bar set where I would like to set. Those are the fans that say we do not Jamil Wilson. We need 12 Jamil Wilson's to compete in BE.
I love Maymon and was all over us getting him in the spring. I had plenty of posters telling me back then we should not want Maymon.
We Maymon, Wilson and EVERY OTHER STUD. If they do not come we should be disappointed.


I think this story has a lot of life left in it. When he signs somewhee else he is not going to MU. Until then the story can change 100 times.

[Wareagle]

But I think what we heard all along is consistent with what Wilson said:  Marquette said they weren't recruiting him, and then they were recruiting him again.  The only additional information that Wilson put out there in this article is that the approach turned him off.  I don't think this is an issue of giving Buzz the benefit of the doubt, because I don't think Wilson is saying anything different than what we all heard.

The thing is that Buzz can't speak to this because it would be an NCAA violation to talk about Wilson before he signs.  Therefore Wilson is free to say whatever he wants and Buzz can't be directly quoted as to what he thinks happened. To be clear, I'm not saying Wilson is lying, just that it's unfortunate Buzz can't really add clarity due to the circumstances,

[Kramerica]

So, if we're not getting Wilson, is there any info on any other recruits we still might sign?  Preferably a sweet shooting 2-guard?

[77ncaachamps]

I thought that schools continually do that: recruit hard, then cool only to recruit hard again?

If Wilson doesn't like head games, I wonder how he'll do in the classroom much less the locker room!

Let's move on...there are better recruits awaiting the MU phone calls!

[reinko]

I thought that schools continually do that: recruit hard, then cool only to recruit hard again?

If Wilson doesn't like head games, I wonder how he'll do in the classroom much less the locker room!

Let's move on...there are better recruits awaiting the MU phone calls!

+1

I think a lot of people need to take a break from this board, everyone here is bunch of debbie downers.

[wadesworld]

I thought that schools continually do that: recruit hard, then cool only to recruit hard again?

If Wilson doesn't like head games, I wonder how he'll do in the classroom much less the locker room!

Let's move on...there are better recruits awaiting the MU phone calls!

Sounds like Tom Izzo then likes these kinds of kids.  From what I hear Korie Lucious transferred out of King to Pius because Gosz ran his program in a way that was "too military."  My guess is that what he was doing in high school was nowhere near what he is currently doing at MSU, unless Tom Izzo really does let his team run free...

[ATWizJr]

Gymbar - I take no pleasure in seeing MU lose out on a top recruit.  I do take pleasure in seeing MU no longer waste it's time recruiting a diva who has conducted his recruiting like a prima donna.

Jamil, man up, dude.  Say what it is and be done with it.

Gymbar, I only invoked your name as you were so certain that he was coming, it seemed as though you had inside info.  So, give us the scoop, if you have it.  (The MUScoop, that is!!)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Wilson blew it.

[OneMadWarrior]

Also, woudl it be totally inconceivable for Wilson's father, in a power play to say MU is back in the fold in the hopes taht some other big schools may panic and offer a scholarship. There are so many unasnwered questiosn here. I said he wasnt' comign becasue there werent' any avaiable scholarships as of rigth now taht coudl be relied on. If I were a recruit that woudl worry me a bit. Ultimately as soon as Buzz had the committment from a big man he had no reason to recruit another slasher/wing player in an already solid class, sometimes there is something to variety in a class. Many of you haev complained that we will nto do well this year due to a lack of big men, had we gotten Wilson, wouldn't this class int he future have the same problem?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Whatever the case is, it's unfortunate it made the papers because only one side of the story is told because MU can't comment on recruits.  That puts MU in a tough spot because they can't rebut anything stated.  Even if they could, they may choose not to.

Time to move on....just like Favre isn't the QB for the Packers any longer it's time to move on. 

[Tulsa Warrior]

At least one side is taking the high road in this. 

[RedWebster]

Time to move on....just like Favre isn't the QB for the Packers any longer it's time to move on. 

How is his new team doing? I haven't been following.

[ChicosBailBonds]

At least one side is taking the high road in this. 

One way of looking at it, but then again if that's how Wilson believes things happened and a reporter asks a 17 year old his feelings, he'll probably blurt them out.

[ChicosBailBonds]

How is his new team doing? I haven't been following.

No idea, it's the AFC so I don't follow either.

[strobl2]

They are doing very well.

[mviale]

agreed - not sure wilson would start next year.  Good decision for himself